Hong Kong Club Reports

[Jackie888]

Personally I think that more mongers who live within driving range of the Zona Norte make shitty husbands than putas make shitty wives. The reason is with women, most are wired to settle down after the first kid. With us, guys are not as wired to be loyal to a woman even with kids. Mongers sort of have a high sex drive. And worst of all, it is too fucking easy to stray since we know that at the end of that drive to the border, honeymoon sex is a sure thing, without all the nagging, fighting, baggage. Some would argue that one doesn't have to pay with a wife. But let's get real, guys are bartering something, whether it is money, or doing the dishes to show that you really love the wife.

I wouldn't eliminate all bar girl as a wife since the group is not homogenous, but she certainly has more baggage to deal with. After attending my buddy's 4th wedding in addition to his prior 3, I don't think that people should marry unless they intend to have something more substantial than just love, like kids or a family or to create some sort of legacy. I think the rate of divorces in California is about 55%. Marrying someone outside our culture brings more baggage. Marrying someone outside of our national border brings more baggage. Marrying a bar girl brings more baggage. Marrying a bar girl with kids brings more baggage per kid. It is just more work per level, and it will depend on how much a monger is willing to work through. I guess that is where it depends how much a monger loves his puta.

[Travv]

I have run into several American men who married Mexican women and then got them US Citizenship. One ex Navy guy was working painting jobs to make his child support payments for his Mexican ex wife in San Diego. I asked him, Did it ever dawn on you that you would be a lot better off keeping her in Tijuana in a cheap apartment with cheap Mexican child support payments with the option of not paying if she cuts off access to your kids? This thought had never occurred to him.

On the other hand, I met a Mexican guy with US citizenship who brought his Mexican wife illegally into the USA with no paperwork. When she got comfortable and tried to divorce him in San Diego and take his house, kids and paycheck, he starting making calls to the Border Patrol whenever a divorce court hearing was scheduled. I noticed that he kept his house, kids and paycheck in the divorce and she wound up back in Mexico courtesy of the US Border Patrol. . . This guy thought with his big head and not his little one and won his divorce, unlike some posters here who if they bring back a Mexican wife to the USA will sooner or later be strip mined of their assets in the land of divorce lawyers aka USA.

Don't worry. I ain't going to marry her. She genuinely serious about it b / c she wants out of the club and to move to America. Known her about 2 years. She's a good person and obviously hot, but there's just too many issues that can't be overlooked to marry her.

1. She has two kids already that are like 20 years old and I am not about to suddenly start paying for college for 2 kids.

2. she doesn't speak English which would make communication a nightmare. Can only get by with google translate for so long and its not natural and you never can say what you really need to say for any meaningful conversation..

[ABAJoeSmith123]

I agree completely as I married an HK hooker before, I won't say the name as one of the guys on this forum fucked her and posted some pics of her in the past. We got married in 2008 and in 2011 I was stationed in Fallon Nevada where I filed for an annulment based on the fact that she went back to hooking actually I don't think she ever stopped since I saw an email where she picked up a monger at the border from San Diego and fucked him at a fuck motel, I guess he was married too and some high power attorney. It was three years of hell but I never got her papers and she didn't seek them or a visa. We also didn't have any kids thank god! Look I personally would not marry any working girl, it is hell. Unless you want to go to HK and see your wife going upstairs with a client, maybe your into pain or insane then go for it, it is your life.

What made it 3 years of hell? Just curious for the details!

[SeaBeeJoe]

Rule 1: Don't marry a hooker.

Rule 2: Refer to rule 1.

Rule 3: If you're the eternal optimist and think you're the exception, good luck to you because you'll need it.

I agree completely as I married an HK hooker before, I won't say the name as one of the guys on this forum fucked her and posted some pics of her in the past. We got married in 2008 and in 2011 I was stationed in Fallon Nevada where I filed for an annulment based on the fact that she went back to hooking actually I don't think she ever stopped since I saw an email where she picked up a monger at the border from San Diego and fucked him at a fuck motel, I guess he was married too and some high power attorney. It was three years of hell but I never got her papers and she didn't seek them or a visa. We also didn't have any kids thank god! Look I personally would not marry any working girl, it is hell. Unless you want to go to HK and see your wife going upstairs with a client, maybe your into pain or insane then go for it, it is your life.

[ABAJoeSmith123]

Don't worry. I ain't going to marry her. She genuinely serious about it b / c she wants out of the club and to move to America. Known her about 2 years. She's a good person and obviously hot, but there's just too many issues that can't be overlooked to marry her.

1. She has two kids already that are like 20 years old and I am not about to suddenly start paying for college for 2 kids.

2. she doesn't speak English which would make communication a nightmare. Can only get by with google translate for so long and its not natural and you never can say what you really need to say for any meaningful conversation.

3. getting her to US would be a nightmare and I'm not committed enough to go through all that hassle (would have to get married in Mexico, and then you'd have to prove to the US embassy if you ever wanted her to even get a green gard / social security number that your relationship was legit meaning you would needs tons of documentation of how you met, where you met, photos of where you've been, history of joint accounts and funds, etc. It's a lot of work. I had a friend do this with a non hooker and it was a lot of work. Imagine doing this with an actual hooker where you have to conceal all that stuff.

Summary: way too hard to marry this woman and give her want she wants. Getting married is the easy part. It's the stuff afterwards that is hard.

[Sol12]

1. Do you get married down in Tijuana and then apply for clientship in US? (assume it takes a few years for that to happen)?

Anyone watch 90 Day Finance? One of the gals who is in that show is a hostess at Mimi's cafe in Mission Valley. So crazy running into her when I was there eating a couple months ago.

I know people that have done it both ways and if you get married in Mexico it's about half the waiting time for her Visa as compared to the K1 Visa which is the process most of the couples on 90 Day Fiancé have done.

[Sol12]

I haven't been to Tijuana or HK since well before covid. I might be in the area Dec. 24 and Dec. 25.

1. have any of you been in HK or the area on Christmas eve or Christmas? What's it like? Is it dead? Different? Better? Worse?

2. Is crossing the border from San Ysidro any different? Does it take longer? Require anything special?

As others have said the selection of girls is much lower but you will find someone to your liking. Also the 24th is when they celebrate Christmas so if you go that day / night it maybe worse compared to the 25th. The good thing is that it's a pretty festive atmosphere.

The border is all about the timing. If your going in by car on the 24th it's a nightmare. By foot not so bad. If you are returning to the US on the 24th you will not have any problems from about 6 pm on the 24th to 10 am on the 25th. After 10 am the line starts to get long with those that visited family returning to the US.

[Aviator400]

The zone in general is not the best during Christmas season, all the best talent take a break during holiday season, they start to leave around the month of November and don't start to come back until February.

Crossing the border is also worst during the holiday season, a lot of locals have family on both sides of the border so family visits and holiday parties increase the border traffic, also people do holiday shopping on both sides of the border, it is not rare to see 4 or 5 hour wait times during the holidays.

Hope this helps.

I haven't been to Tijuana or HK since well before covid. I might be in the area Dec. 24 and Dec. 25.

1. have any of you been in HK or the area on Christmas eve or Christmas? What's it like? Is it dead? Different? Better? Worse?

2. Is crossing the border from San Ysidro any different? Does it take longer? Require anything special?

Jim0129 was spot on. I was there Christmas a few years ago and the biggest issue was that the line to the USA was enormous. Not just long, but the longest I have ever seen. Does it require anything special? YES for me it would require patients. Sentri is such a lifesaver.

It isn't dead, but there are fewer girls and fewer mongers. I have an HK ATF who is a local, but she grew up in an abusive household, so she does not spend holidays with family. Took her shopping as my Christmas gift to her. Many girls do go home for the holidays, and remain until a few weeks after the New Year. Street girls are MIA as well.

[LuvMexicanas]

I take it you've never had that convo with an HK chica? LOL. I've run into some sharks who'll casually bring it up to see if they can get traction. Of course they'd move to the US on mongerer's dime if they had the chance.

If you say so. It's your fantasy so the only limitation is your imagination.

[SomeDude321]

I take it you've never had that convo with an HK chica? LOL. I've run into some sharks who'll casually bring it up to see if they can get traction. Of course they'd move to the US on mongerer's dime if they had the chance.

No hk chick is marrying a hk guy for a green card. There's no hk chicks in Mexico because they can't go to USA. The border is open and even when it wasn't Mexican woman can go live in Italy and Europe with just a passport.

Don't worry. I ain't going to marry her. She genuinely serious about it be / see she wants out of the club and to move to America.

[Jim0129]

I haven't been to Tijuana or HK since well before covid. I might be in the area Dec. 24 and Dec. 25.

1. have any of you been in HK or the area on Christmas eve or Christmas? What's it like? Is it dead? Different? Better? Worse?

2. Is crossing the border from San Ysidro any different? Does it take longer? Require anything special?

The zone in general is not the best during Christmas season, all the best talent take a break during holiday season, they start to leave around the month of November and don't start to come back until February.

Crossing the border is also worst during the holiday season, a lot of locals have family on both sides of the border so family visits and holiday parties increase the border traffic, also people do holiday shopping on both sides of the border, it is not rare to see 4 or 5 hour wait times during the holidays.

Hope this helps.

[LuvMexicanas]

Great observation.

Also, there are rules in HK whereas there are no rules for Street girls.

That's why even beauties like Wendy (Anahi) who stand behind HK chose to work on street even though they can compete in the club. She does more sessions than anyone else. She is always in a rush to get into the room and get out as soon as time is done.

A street girl can be well known and be queen at her hotel. She can also be a specialist with some unique skills. So their can greater sense of doing well and being in control / in-charge at their own dumpy hotel. All her repeat customers know exactly where to find her, etc. That's what I love about my Karumi.

Also they avoid being de facto smokers even if they don't smoke, as the amount of second hand smoke bar girls take in over extended periods is not insignificant.

[Meege]

I haven't been to Tijuana or HK since well before covid. I might be in the area Dec. 24 and Dec. 25.

1. have any of you been in HK or the area on Christmas eve or Christmas? What's it like? Is it dead? Different? Better? Worse?

2. Is crossing the border from San Ysidro any different? Does it take longer? Require anything special?

[Rambo1969]

I think it's really hard for the street girls to work in HK because they have to upgrade their looks to compete, and they have to adjust their flirting skills. On the streets, they usually just stand around and play on their phone or stare into space, not saying a word other than recite the fees like a robot. That is a nasty habit to bring into HK where there are 100 girls who Glammed up and circle the club like vultures diving into a fresh tourist. I think this is why so many chicas bounced back and forth between the clubs and the streets.

Great observation.

Also, there are rules in HK whereas there are no rules for Street girls.

That's why even beauties like Wendy (Anahi) who stand behind HK chose to work on street even though they can compete in the club. She does more sessions than anyone else. She is always in a rush to get into the room and get out as soon as time is done.

A street girl can be well known and be queen at her hotel. She can also be a specialist with some unique skills. So their can greater sense of doing well and being in control / in-charge at their own dumpy hotel. All her repeat customers know exactly where to find her, etc. That's what I love about my Karumi.

[Rambo1969]

Yah marriage is difficult I failed at it twice and I am still paying for it. Child Support. That's why I like hookers. They keave after I am done.

I agree 100% and so do many male friends.

Hookers are also like leasing. You can always get a new model every couple of years and are always driving a new model.

With marriage you are stuck with an aging wife and eventually the spark goes out in most marriages and we accumulate resentment that is hard to overcome.

My wife is not just a roommate. We sleep separately, etc. And Zona works out great for me.

Long term I also heard it is cheaper to have hookers.

I am grateful for the beautiful women of Zona and HK club.