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  1. #19190

    No Mas, No Mas

    Many of you will recall these infamous words of Roberto Duran as he faced off with Sugar Ray Leonard years ago. Well, I am going to plagiarize these words as I vow to never return to La Coahuila bars again. You ask why? Here we go (all over a 3 day period at Hong Kong and Tropical Bar):

    - Forced to buy a beer upon entry into Hong Kong (do they think I won't buy a drink of my choice upon entry?

    - Charged $11.00 for a ficha beer and $6. 00 for my own beer (not including tip) (total greed).

    - Consistently hounded to buy another drink (even when mine and hers were only half full).

    - Scammed to pay $30.00 for an effing Riunite glass of wine.

    - Short changed or no changed 4 times (all involving me ordering a beer each time).

    - Repeated hounding by dancers and their jockies for propinas when I didn't even see them dance (I was on the other side of the bar).

    - Repeated hounding by the chips and nuts guy.

    - Harrassed by the waiters who turn their serving trays over to reveal a food menu (and when I say no, they say well your girl is hungry).

    - Constant hounding by the flower guy (when I said no 4 times he said, but the girl wants one).

    - Hounded to tip the ahole that puts the robe on the girl prior to us going upstairs.

    - Hounded to tip the cum guys about to clean the room.

    - Hounded by the prick that I paid for the room with the girl for a tip on my way down.

    - Short timed by two putas when I was paying for a half hour (I'm talking 20 minutes tops).

    - Oh, let's not forget that old bastard that clicks the shocking device in front of your face (who the Hell wants to pay to get shocked?

    And my friend and I went down to Rosarito and ordered a drink on the beach and were literally surrounded and hounded by vendors pushing massages, henna tattoos, sunglasses, blankets, etc. Etc.

    Getting fleeced like this may be your idea of a good time but for me. No mas, no mas.

  2. #19189
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan31  [View Original Post]
    Your moving for prostitutes? Yea that's silly kid smh.

    Focus on vauble goals in life and learn how to talk to women. Your puting too much value on prostitutes and it's extremely ridiculous.

    Hope this helps!
    I do know how to talk to women. I do not enjoy the way traditional dating works where I am at, and I get much more satisfaction from mongering or an accelerated form of dating that involves pay to play.

    Maybe you don't like prostitutes, that's up to you.

    Me personally, I don't care if they are "prostitutes". I've had terrific experiences from mongering and I would like to continue that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambo1969  [View Original Post]
    At TerOnlyOnce,

    Great advice above from Zenduka1.

    But, you can do both. You can live in San Diego area, access Zona on weekends and spend your weekdays focused on building a good life / career.

    Zona can only take so much of your time (excitement fades if you go too often) - one night a week is probably a good balance.
    My career is already established so I'm not too worried about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by TjBrazil  [View Original Post]
    You will get bored with Tijuana if you move to San Diego. This isn't the Tijuana of 20 years ago where you had a lot of fun places to go, college kids everywhere on the weekends. The place is full of sharks now. They charge too much for horrible service, and they will rip you off any chance they get. Read all the negative posts now of how horrible the girls are.
    Even if I got bored of Tijuana I would be in the same situation I'm in now, so it wouldn't really matter to me.

    Thank you all for the input, I appreciate it.

    I will most likely end up doing this, already figuring out how to make it happen.

    Reasons why if anyone cares: personal decision, not much else I'm working on or towards in life right now, and I know that if I were to move my options for sex will only increase which is a worthwhile improvement to me.

  3. #19188
    Quote Originally Posted by StRobert  [View Original Post]
    Thanks, good article. I watched this movie Hustlers. This movie Hustlers was in the cinema in Tijuana in the Spanish version and I think all the chicas from the Hong Kong club watched this movie because I read their discussions somewhere on Facebook. I also had such an adventure. A long time ago, when I was younger, I was in Paris, France, and near Place Pigalle there was a bar with a sign saying entry was 5 francs (before the euro). I was given a glass of champagne at the table, a half-naked girl talked to me for maybe 5 minutes, there was a striptease on stage. After a while, the waiter brought a bill for 375 francs (USD 75). For me, a young tourist, it was a fortune back then and I wanted to escape, but a huge security guard caught me at the door and I had no choice but to pay or they would beat me. I think it was some bar operated by the Balkan or North African mafia. So guys don't complain Hong Kong club is not that bad.
    That brought back memories. I had the same experience back in the 80's when I was just a teenager bumming through Europe. Some clip joint in Pigalle. Except I had no credit card and not nearly enough cash. They had to let me walk out. Lesson learned early.

  4. #19187
    Quote Originally Posted by TjBrazil  [View Original Post]
    You will get bored with Tijuana if you move to San Diego. This isn't the Tijuana of 20 years ago where you had a lot of fun places to go, college kids everywhere on the weekends. The place is full of sharks now. They charge too much for horrible service, and they will rip you off any chance they get. Read all the negative posts now of how horrible the girls are.
    I've been going to TJ for a little over 20 years and have never gotten bored of it LOL.

    TJ is what you make of it. The GFE/PSE girls are all there each and every week once you get to know them. I can easily go into my WhatsApp and set up a PSE/BBFS threesome within a couple hours if I wanted to.

    To the guy looking to move to SD, I say if you have a good paying job and no other responsibilities holding you back, do it. Although I agree with the people also saying to look for something more serious. You can have fun while searching for a civilian girlfriend here in San Diego or even land a novia in TJ who isn’t a ***** and appreciates a good man.

  5. #19186
    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    Hey there, looking for some input.

    I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.

    Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.

    I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.

    Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?

    I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.

    Thanks.
    You will get bored with Tijuana if you move to San Diego. This isn't the Tijuana of 20 years ago where you had a lot of fun places to go, college kids everywhere on the weekends. The place is full of sharks now. They charge too much for horrible service, and they will rip you off any chance they get. Read all the negative posts now of how horrible the girls are.

  6. #19185

    Good advice to TerOnlyOnce

    Quote Originally Posted by Zenduka1  [View Original Post]
    You are 29. Your goals should not be based on your access to mongering. You really should put it down good number of notches. Your aim should be to build a life based on your aspirations outside mongering. You can build a life where you can have girls in your yacht sometime in the future if you work at it because you have time. If you don't have those aspiration then get a life coach who could help you create them and build the personality that helps you achieve them. Do not waste your youth getting committed to mongering.
    At TerOnlyOnce,

    Great advice above from Zenduka1.

    But, you can do both. You can live in San Diego area, access Zona on weekends and spend your weekdays focused on building a good life / career.

    Zona can only take so much of your time (excitement fades if you go too often) - one night a week is probably a good balance.

  7. #19184

    Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    Hey there, looking for some input.

    I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.

    Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.

    I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.

    Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?

    I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.

    Thanks.
    Your moving for prostitutes? Yea that's silly kid smh.

    Focus on vauble goals in life and learn how to talk to women. Your puting too much value on prostitutes and it's extremely ridiculous.

    Hope this helps!

  8. #19183

    Move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.
    Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.
    Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?
    Summary: MOVE TO San Diego. You will not regret it.

    I am much much older than you but in a similar situation.

    I am planning to move to SD to enjoy Pacific Beach, La Jolla, etc in addition to HK and zona.

    I have some family complications that delay my move but hope to be there by the end of this year or next year.

    I will send you 1:1 my file with fun things in San Diego things I plan to enjoy. Beyond Mexico.

    As an example from San Diego airport I go via Coronado island on my way to Mexico.

  9. #19182
    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    Hey there, looking for some input.

    I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.

    Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.

    I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.

    Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?

    I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.

    Thanks.
    Above all, you are your own man and IMO should do as you please (within legal and morally appropriate boundaries). First thought though is a message board focused on the discussion of mongering and hookers is probably NOT where you should be seeking out long-term advice on life.

    I also live on the East Coast and visit the San Diego-Tijuana area on average 3 times or so a year. I personally think it's short-sighted and beyond ridicuolous to move to San Diego for the primary purpose of pursuing mongering activities in Tijuana. But then again I don't know the particulars of your life situation (other than what you're written above) so I can only speak for myself.

    With that said, there are plenty of solid reasons to move to San Diego that you could consider that have nothing to do with Zona Norte. Awesome weather, beaches, generally laid-back atmosphere, proximity to LA and Las Vegas, etc. I also enjoy plenty of things in Tijuana outside of Zona Norte, like the tacos and relatively low-cost restaurants, breweries, and alcohol.

    I've never lived in San Diego and don't even know where you're at on the East Coast so can't speak to job prospects, cost-of-living, and other considerations like that relative to where you live currently. But I do think that whatever key decisions you make in life, you want to be sure you're doing them for the right reasons. Not so sure moving to San Diego for the sole purpose of being close to Tijuana and the Zona Norte chicas is the "right reason" (IMO it's a quite poor reason actually) but again I don't know you or the particulars of your life. You can do as you please and, who knows, moving to San Diego could turn out to be the best decision you ever made. Good luck!

  10. #19181
    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    Hey there, looking for some input.

    I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.

    Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.

    I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.

    Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?

    I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.

    Thanks.
    I am in a similar boat: 30, unmarried, and no kids. I have a different perspective than some of the other mongers on this thread. I think it is very reasonable to move to San Diego to be close to Tijuana. The girls are so much cheaper and higher quality (on average) compared to what you can get in the states that I really view SD as a unique opportunity. There is nothing quite like it in the USA in terms of quality per dollar. I expect mongering to be a big part of my future, so it makes sense to take this into account when picking a city to live in. For this reason San Diego is my top choice. I agree with the other posters that you should not let mongering become an addiction, and that it is important to have goals and pastimes outside of this hobby.

  11. #19180
    Quote Originally Posted by StRobert  [View Original Post]
    Hi! I used to live in New York City, Chicago, Northern California. The advantages of moving to southern California are the climate. On the coast, not too hot, rarely over 90 F and not crazy humid like New York City or Chicago, not too cold, rarely below 50 F. You will save a lot of money on heating and air conditioning bills and you don't need winter clothes. The supermarket has an abundance of vegetables and tropical fruits, inexpensively imported from Mexico. The advantage of regular, legal sex once a week with beautiful girls at the Hong Kong club (just don't be an addict). A life of sexual abstinence is unhealthy both physically and mentally. You will save a lot of money on travel costs to Tijuana (planes and hotels). Consider cheaper cities like Chula Vista is clean and safe. Good air connections from San Diego airport to everywhere in the USA, also to Frankfurt, Munich and Germany. From Tijuana airport connections to vacation destinations Mazatlan, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo, Cancun and Playa del Carmen. Cons. The beach and air are polluted from the border in Imperial Beach to Coronado, but the authorities in both countries are solving this problem. San Diego beaches are clean but the water temperature is not like Waikiki. After Covid, more homeless people, homeless tents in the downtown of San Diego and homeless people in the trolley system. It's slowly starting to look like.... San Francisco. Apartment rental prices are probably similar to those on the East Coast. The benefits of living in the USA include the freedom to move wherever suits you best. A huge country of continental states and Guam, Hawaii, Alaska, Puerto Rico and US Virgin Island. In the end, it's your life and your decision and I won't interfere with it.
    I'd add one thing about the police, don't expect anything from them. Crime is de facto okay based on police inaction except for the most severe crimes.

  12. #19179
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    I met Robert from New England in HK, a well seasoned monger, tall, well built like a full back.

    His USG post #2310 claimed he picked up Saita? For ST in Cascada. He left his drink, took a shower. She took a long shower so he finished his drink. She came out, he felt woozy but did not loose consciousness. He confronted her and she left. He did not lose anything. Hope he did not pay her before she took off clothes and showed her droopy boobs and huge stomach.

    He complained to front desk. They said it happened a lot, gave him credit for the room. He was woozy for the next day and a half.

    If she meant to drug and rob him and he passed out in the room, Cascada would knock on the door in half hour and find him. She would not get away with it with Cascada recording names for ST room. They would drug guys who rent rooms for multiple days, not ST. Did not make sense to me.

    Next day he came back to HK, identified her and complained to management. She apparently got fired.

    What do you think?
    Not even close to reality.

    First off, he brought the drink to the ST room, and she allegedly spiked the drink when he took a shower. Because she knew he would finish the drink after his shower. Because everyone who goes to a ST room sits around and has a drink.

    It sounds like he drank a lot in the bar, and had a condition called "being drunk".

    On the other hand, since he spent the night at Cascadas (he was still there the next day), they would have gone to his room, not a ST room, and there would have been no 30 minute knock on the door.

  13. #19178
    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    Hey there, looking for some input.

    I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.

    Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.

    I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.

    Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?

    I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.

    Thanks.
    Hi! I used to live in New York City, Chicago, Northern California. The advantages of moving to southern California are the climate. On the coast, not too hot, rarely over 90 F and not crazy humid like New York City or Chicago, not too cold, rarely below 50 F. You will save a lot of money on heating and air conditioning bills and you don't need winter clothes. The supermarket has an abundance of vegetables and tropical fruits, inexpensively imported from Mexico. The advantage of regular, legal sex once a week with beautiful girls at the Hong Kong club (just don't be an addict). A life of sexual abstinence is unhealthy both physically and mentally. You will save a lot of money on travel costs to Tijuana (planes and hotels). Consider cheaper cities like Chula Vista is clean and safe. Good air connections from San Diego airport to everywhere in the USA, also to Frankfurt, Munich and Germany. From Tijuana airport connections to vacation destinations Mazatlan, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo, Cancun and Playa del Carmen. Cons. The beach and air are polluted from the border in Imperial Beach to Coronado, but the authorities in both countries are solving this problem. San Diego beaches are clean but the water temperature is not like Waikiki. After Covid, more homeless people, homeless tents in the downtown of San Diego and homeless people in the trolley system. It's slowly starting to look like.... San Francisco. Apartment rental prices are probably similar to those on the East Coast. The benefits of living in the USA include the freedom to move wherever suits you best. A huge country of continental states and Guam, Hawaii, Alaska, Puerto Rico and US Virgin Island. In the end, it's your life and your decision and I won't interfere with it.

  14. #19177
    Quote Originally Posted by Zenduka1  [View Original Post]
    You are 29. Your goals should not be based on your access to mongering. You really should put it down good number of notches. Your aim should be to build a life based on your aspirations outside mongering. You can build a life where you can have girls in your yacht sometime in the future if you work at it because you have time. If you don't have those aspiration then get a life coach who could help you create them and build the personality that helps you achieve them. Do not waste your youth getting committed to mongering.
    I enjoy mongering though. I am not bitter or resentful about it. I want to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    Yes that is a stupid decision. 1) San Diego most expensive city in California now. 2) California taxes. 3) San Diego job market pays well below market value. 4) HK won't be so fun once it's too easy for you to access it and you start going so frequently. 5) don't shit where you sleep. 6) Should be using your prime years to do something more productive than move somewhere for hookers.
    The financials I am not really worried about. Not really a concern for me.

  15. #19176

    Moving to San Diego

    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    Hey there, looking for some input.

    I am 29 years old almost 30, single never married and no kids.

    Live on the east coast and am thinking about putting in the work to move to san diego for purposes to have HK and the zona in my back pocket if I want to have some fun with ladies on the weekends.

    I've been there before a handful of times so I know what to expect in terms of quality of girls, general HK experience, and the zona itself.

    Would it be silly to relocate just so I have convenient access to mexico and banging the girls there?

    I could find a new job so I would not be not straining myself financially if I were to do this, nor do I have any significant ties to where I currently live so I'm not really leaving anything behind.

    Thanks.
    I worked in San Diego after I retired from the military form 2018 to 2021. I had a decent job with the government and was making in the mid 100 k a year and I was single too. The problem is that HK and the Zona Norte being so close for me destroyed my life and my finances as I got addicted. Unless you can be 100% certain you won't get addicted to the lifestyle of mongering and put yourself on a strict budget you will eventually fail like I did. People can bullshit on these forums and tell you they would never fall for a hooker bla bla bla, they all spent a lot of money over the years that they could have used for other things like investments. I think it is better to live away from Tijuana and just visit a couple times a year for fun, but that's only my opinion. San Diego is also super expensive and the rent is sky high. You don't want to live in Tijuana as crossing the border sucks unless you have Global entry or Sentri card. The wait list for this is over a year. Then the lifestyle in Tijuana is completely third world, trust me I tried it for several months, I could not wait to go back to the USA. But like it said it is only my opinion and in the end you will do what you want. Good luck on whatever you decide.

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