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  1. #8637

    On subject of ignoring mesmeros (staff).

    Had room for night at HK.

    Had girl I knew I wanted. And she wanted me. (OK guys just a little humor there.) But seriously we get along well as on my previous visit I had strictly talked to her. I approach her, we talk briefly, I make an offer that I know I will not budge from (60) and didn't even have to. She gave no bullshit counter or anything. She is down. No haggling, let's just enjoy was our mutual vibe.

    So we are literally about to stand up and go to the room and one of the staff comes over and tries hawking the VIP room. I show him wrist band and say "No thanks, room. " he keeps trying. Very pushy. I. mean. Tries. Really. Hard. Doesn't let up. Next tries to get her involved. So I wonder do he and she work together on some commission bullshit? Her body language is like she is not digging his VIP push either, the guy (me) just offered the room.

    Anyway we had to literally get up and walk away from babbling VIP dance pusher.

    WTF is up with these guys? Any thoughts from you vets on what to do, other then what I did?

    Continued props to you vets, particularly Captain Solo has been fantastic.

  2. #8636

    Sat night.

    The line up was pretty good. There were a lot of girls I'the never seen before in addition to the regulars. The girls seemed livelier than they usually are. I met an old spinner dancing on the bar, 26 yo but was youthful, short, and cute like a spinner. Nothing voluptuous, just a cute girl with a smile. I tipped her and she gave me a nice smile and a big smooch for it, tipped her again and she did the same. I was feeling good vibes from her and decided to try her for a drink. Pretty good idea, by the 2nd one it was a DFK fest. Lots of necking and stuff. Every once in a while you stumble across a girl that gives you a true GFE and this was one of them. No rush or upsell, didn't even arriba once. I've been down on the service at HK lately but this was a great find.

  3. #8635

    No need.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tididyekim  [View Original Post]
    The meseros were all over me for sure, but I didn't feel like they were overly pushy. There was one incident when I was with the first girl. One of her co workers came to our area to eat the appetizer I had bought for her and the mesesro tried asking the second girl to see if she wanted anything. I shook my head and told him "nah nah nah nah. I'm going to go broke if I buy every girl a drink". I'm not sure if he understood me, but I'm sure he got the message.

    Here's a break down of costs from what I can remember that night. The girl I took up quickly asked for 100. I gave her a look like (What the heck?) she tried for 90, but I still gave her a look of disappointment. She said 80 and I agreed. I think next time I'll try finding the perfect girl first and then butter her up with fichas. Hopefully she'll give me a lower rate in the end.

    Entry + Heineken= $10.00.

    Tecate= $4.00.

    Heineken= $5.00..
    You bought you and her a drink, you tipped the mesero. I have had them hover like flies trying an appetizer, don't forget a visit from the basket guy too. Sometimes the mesero has to waive others off. Look him in the eye and say "I need some time with my girl to get to know her. Excuse us here. " Sometimes the meseros can be great but you must control the game.

    Always tip but know when to tell them to take a walk. Don't worry, they will be back to lift her drink at the half way mark. Again just say "good for now". This is more of a hint to the girl to drink faster. As soon as you walk thru that curtain the game has begun but how you control it will decide the time you have.

    And man I miss the game.

    Scudrucker.

  4. #8634
    You got people that are pure trash with their hand out everywhere in Tijuana, especially the Zona and the border. I never give anybody anything. Honestly, and quite literally, I'd rather flush my money down the toilet than hand it over to them. One time I was waiting in the motorist line waiting to cross back. Up ahead I see a guy with a giant swollen elephant leg. For some weird reason I happened to be in a good, generous mood. So I start digging in my pocket for a buck or two. One of the cart vendors sees me and somehow knows that I intend to give Elephant Leg a buck. He yells over to Elephant Leg and he comes over to my car, starts knocking on my window, and demands I hand over some money. Needless to say, I ignored him.

    Worse still are children begging for money. Most of them are controlled by a handler who takes away all the money they get. And by giving these kids money you are contributing to the delinquency of a minor. You're encouraging them to stay on the streets instead of going to school.

    The worst is the adults that intentionally bring kids begging. These POS are putting innocent children in harms way in order to gain sympathy from passersby to gain a few pesos. Many of the toddlers are drugged to make them more controllable. There's this one guy who used to bring a baby into the zona late at night. He would always be shocked when I would ignore his pleas for money. He would keep on saying "I have a baby!" but I didn't give a fuck I'm not contributing towards that baby being in the Zona late at night.

  5. #8633
    Quote Originally Posted by Rpatl  [View Original Post]
    What kind of prices were you seeing for arriba, and were the meseros all over you to buy drinks?
    The meseros were all over me for sure, but I didn't feel like they were overly pushy. There was one incident when I was with the first girl. One of her co workers came to our area to eat the appetizer I had bought for her and the mesesro tried asking the second girl to see if she wanted anything. I shook my head and told him "nah nah nah nah. I'm going to go broke if I buy every girl a drink". I'm not sure if he understood me, but I'm sure he got the message.

    Here's a break down of costs from what I can remember that night. The girl I took up quickly asked for 100. I gave her a look like (What the heck?) she tried for 90, but I still gave her a look of disappointment. She said 80 and I agreed. I think next time I'll try finding the perfect girl first and then butter her up with fichas. Hopefully she'll give me a lower rate in the end.

    Entry + Heineken= $10.00.

    Tecate= $4.00.

    Heineken= $5.00.

    Ficha mixed drink + Tacate = $15.00.

    Ficha small beer + Tacate= I think it was like $14.00. I couldn't have been cheaper, I forgot TBH.

    Appetizer= I can't remember exactly. It was somewhere in between $7 or $10.

    Arriba= $80.00.

    Damnit, I want to go again.

  6. #8632

    Hong Kong.

    Thanks for the write up. Learned a lot as I am going on Saturday and had gone back and forth between Adelitas and Hong Kong.

    What kind of prices were you seeing for arriba, and were the meseros all over you to buy drinks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tididyekim  [View Original Post]
    I've been lurking on these forums for a few months now and never really thought to post any of my experiences. Since I took a recent trip to Hong Kong just yesterday, I thought it would be a great opportunity give back to the community. Now, I wouldn't consider myself a veteran monger, but I've had my fair share of strange State side, in Tijuana, and in the Philippines. Being that I'm 33 years old and single, I feel as though I still have a lot of mongering left to do. Well, at least up until I meet someone.

    It's been about two years since I've visited Tijuana and I'm honestly surprised at how much things have changed since then. Back then, I felt as if the quality of the girls were better at Adelitas during my last visit, but that certainly wasn't the case this time around. I got across the PedWest border around 9:30 and was approached by a guy in a suit asking me if I wanted a free ride to Hong Kong. My first thought was "hey what a nice guy", but then it dawned on me that he might be leading me somewhere to get robbed LOL. Everything was cool though.

  7. #8631
    Quote Originally Posted by MongerHunger  [View Original Post]
    Security doesn't bother me in HK for whatever I do and I will continue to do the same things that I have been doing in HK. Oral sex, finger banging chicas, BJ's and HJ's in the booth, fondling, groping, sucking tits and all that fun shit. Security gives less than a damn. They are present during all these activities.
    Or should I say Security is in the vicinity during activities not looking over my shoulder. LOL. Correction.

  8. #8630

    12/8/2018 successful Hong Kong Trip.

    I've been lurking on these forums for a few months now and never really thought to post any of my experiences. Since I took a recent trip to Hong Kong just yesterday, I thought it would be a great opportunity give back to the community. Now, I wouldn't consider myself a veteran monger, but I've had my fair share of strange State side, in Tijuana, and in the Philippines. Being that I'm 33 years old and single, I feel as though I still have a lot of mongering left to do. Well, at least up until I meet someone.

    It's been about two years since I've visited Tijuana and I'm honestly surprised at how much things have changed since then. Back then, I felt as if the quality of the girls were better at Adelitas during my last visit, but that certainly wasn't the case this time around. I got across the PedWest border around 9:30 and was approached by a guy in a suit asking me if I wanted a free ride to Hong Kong. My first thought was "hey what a nice guy", but then it dawned on me that he might be leading me somewhere to get robbed LOL. Everything was cool though. He lead me a couple blocks down the road where they had their car ready and took me to Hong Kong. There's always this feeling of excitement whenever I walk into these places. Getting a general view of the quality of the girls and knowing that you would be able to fuck most of them is a great feeling. Sometimes I can't help but smile and giggle internally like a young boy in a toy store. I wanted to get a better look at all of the girls so I made my way to the back entrance and then up the stairs. Decided to stay there since there was a cream / soap show going on.

    I sat down and I was greeted by this small framed Latina named Catalina. To be honest, I wasn't really interested since I just arrived, but I did want a bit of company to unwind and have someone to talk to. Offered to buy her a drink / ficha and she agreed obviously. Turns out, she was a really cool chick. She was 22 years old and was really friendly. Though I think she was trying to play the ficha game because she was downing those drinks pretty quickly and one of her co workers came up to eat some of the food I bought for her. She said that I was handsome and was surprised when I told her that I was 33 because she guessed that I was 27. Even went on to say that I was boyfriend material during our conversation, which part of me thought was BS because you know, she's a working girl. After she finished her drink and the meal I bought her, She gave me her whatapp, but I never followed up with her after. Total damage was an appetizer, 2 drinks for her, and about 4 beers for me in that short period of time. LOL.

    After we parted ways, I made my way back to the main stage closer to the entrance and tipped a few girls on the stages. There was one in particular that I really liked so I came up to her and gave her 3 dollars to get her attention, but she wasn't having it for some reason. I'm not sure what that was about. Maybe she had a dude waiting on her or she just doesn't like shaved headed Asians LOL. This is when I found my girl for the night. I can't for the life of me remember what her name was, but she was pretty one. She said that she was 28, but I think she was a lot older than that because you could see the lines on the side of her eye's pretty well. Admittedly something about her eyes had me captivated so I stuck it out with her. She wasn't really into the conversation and she was on her phone a bit, but I didn't care. I honestly just wanted her around and look into her eyes and admire her physic. After stuffing a bunch of dollars into her clothing and conversating, one of the meseros told me to come with him to another area. My initial thought was "I don't want to pay for some bullshit" LOL. I think they took us to VIP lounge area, because it wasn't crowded at all and we had this ass big couch to ourselves. We didn't stay long though. I wanted to get down to business already since I was getting drunk.

    We made our way up to the hotel room and she started to undress and take her heels off. I was kind of thrown off because she was so tiny, but had a huge ass. I didn't really notice these things while we were in the club because when I approached her, she was sitting down and I didn't really pay attention to her heels. I would say she stood about 4'11 and had a big, BIG butt for her size. So big, it kind of looked awkward when she was standing. Though it did look amazing while I had her from behind because it made her waist look tiny and it felt really nice while I was grabbing it. She started with a CBJ and then she got on top of me. Did that for a bit and then switched to doggy, but she wanted to be on top again. She said "no eres chino". I laughed and said "Mirame mis ojos. Soy chino". She then pointed to my face and said "Si es chino", then pointed to my penis and said "No es chino, Es Mexicano"(I'm half Mexican). I laughed. We finished up and she asked the guys outside to get her some soap so she could wash off. It's a nice thing to see a woman just casually showering herself. Very sexy and appealing. The clean up crew started to knock on the door a few times. I didn't answer them though. I just yelled through the door and said she's showering. She finished up at this point and we made our back back downstairs. She gave me a hug and she was off again to find another john.

    If I had to rate my experience this time around, I'the put it at a 9/10 for sure. This was my first time going solo so I was a bit nervous about it, but everything turned out great. I even took a taxi to Tacos El Franc at 2:30 in the morning by myself and didn't have any issues while I was there. Everyone I met was really friendly, except for the one girl on the stage that I mentioned. Damage to the wallet wasn't too bad either. Total amount spent was about $350 for everything, including gas to get down there and back. I'm already contemplating going again next week. LOL.

    Oh crap. I forgot to mention. I did a lap around the building to see the street girls and didn't find any of them attractive. Sure, they might cost you less, but it doesn't seem worth it to me when you can fuck some really pretty girls in Hong Kong. Stopped by Adelitas for a minute and the girls were kinda busted in my opinion. They just didn't compare to the girls at Hong Kong. Maybe all of the hot ones were already upstairs. Who knows.

  9. #8629
    Quote Originally Posted by Muncher8888  [View Original Post]
    Bearbare,

    Props on the info and map.

    Appreciate it.

    As a rookie I let myself get temporarily worked by the fisha drink game. Then after taking the taxi to the border he did a frownie face when he didn't think I tipped him enough. 5 bucks he can STFU. Anyhow by that time I had had it with the hand-out people and what happens next? A very nice young girl opens my taxi door for me. I thought what a nice ending to a more or less sucky experience (that night only). And then she wants a damn buck for opening the door. Phucks sake LOL.

    Walking can be good for lots of reasons. Thanks again.
    At the border, this is a well-organized beggars corporation business. They even have a boss and women with small children are strategically placed along the sidewalk 24/7. Girls who open the taxi doors are too young to work in Zona and I always joke with them. If you give a tip then do not give more than 25 cents.

  10. #8628

    Beggars and scammers.

    Tell the girls who open cab doors at the border to F off. Seriously. You didn't ask for them to open your door, so don't feel bad.

    Think about how many cabs drop people off at this spot per day. Hundreds. Easily. They are such scam artists.

    Many beggars at the border do it full-time. If you pay attention, the same ones are there day after day because they are making more money than any 'respectable' job in Tijuana will pay. Why break your back in a factory for $5-10 per day when you can make that in an hour putting your hand out to gullible tourists?

    Instead of opening cab doors those girls should be in school or bettering themselves somehow instead of ripping off tourists. But they have no incentive to when they can make a great living by Tijuana standards opening cab doors. These girls have been known to pickpocket.

    Don't encourage this behavior by giving them money.

    The average low skill laborer in Tijuana is making $5-20 per day. These girls are making more than that in an hour. Don't reward the harassment of tourists for money with a very comfortable living.

    Quote Originally Posted by Muncher8888  [View Original Post]
    Bearbare,

    Props on the info and map.

    Appreciate it.

    As a rookie I let myself get temporarily worked by the fisha drink game. Then after taking the taxi to the border he did a frownie face when he didn't think I tipped him enough. 5 bucks he can STFU. Anyhow by that time I had had it with the hand-out people and what happens next? A very nice young girl opens my taxi door for me. I thought what a nice ending to a more or less sucky experience (that night only). And then she wants a damn buck for opening the door. Phucks sake LOL.

    Walking can be good for lots of reasons. Thanks again.

  11. #8627
    Quote Originally Posted by Bearbare  [View Original Post]
    If the sun is up, theres no problem walking.
    Bearbare,

    Props on the info and map.

    Appreciate it.

    As a rookie I let myself get temporarily worked by the fisha drink game. Then after taking the taxi to the border he did a frownie face when he didn't think I tipped him enough. 5 bucks he can STFU. Anyhow by that time I had had it with the hand-out people and what happens next? A very nice young girl opens my taxi door for me. I thought what a nice ending to a more or less sucky experience (that night only). And then she wants a damn buck for opening the door. Phucks sake LOL.

    Walking can be good for lots of reasons. Thanks again.

  12. #8626
    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan  [View Original Post]
    Technically, sex is not allowed on the same premises as the bar. Baja (probably other states as well) has anti-brothel laws. That's why you have to exit the bar, onto a public street, and then go into a hotel. They are theoretically different businesses. It's all lip service, but there it is.

    So, is a HJ in a privado illegal? A BJ under the table? Probably, yes. Does it happen? Again, yes. I don't thing groping and licking boobs counts as sex, or every strip club in Tijuana would get closed down. But obviously the laws aren't strictly enforced, and in Mexico money talks. So, who knows? In any case, it would be the girl who got into trouble if caught, never the business, unlike here.
    Sir,

    You may have a point there. These types of establishments find loop holes and circumvent the law. Most of these policies are overlooked. If indeed it is illegal then I stand corrected but obviously it does not stop the activities going on in the club and on the surface it is A-OK.

  13. #8625
    And he is wrong on that count as well. Anything goes in private dance and VIP rooms. If sexual activities weren't allowed there. HK security and meseros would enforce those rules. But they don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by KCQuestor  [View Original Post]
    I think there may be a confusion about the word "illegal". I think the OP mean illegal as in "not allowed in HK because it is against management's rules"

  14. #8624
    Quote Originally Posted by KCQuestor  [View Original Post]
    I think there may be a confusion about the word "illegal". I think the OP mean illegal as in "not allowed in HK because it is against management's rules". I don't think anyone will argue that it is literally against the law.

    "Illegal" is not the same as "not allowed".
    Technically, sex is not allowed on the same premises as the bar. Baja (probably other states as well) has anti-brothel laws. That's why you have to exit the bar, onto a public street, and then go into a hotel. They are theoretically different businesses. It's all lip service, but there it is.

    So, is a HJ in a privado illegal? A BJ under the table? Probably, yes. Does it happen? Again, yes. I don't thing groping and licking boobs counts as sex, or every strip club in Tijuana would get closed down. But obviously the laws aren't strictly enforced, and in Mexico money talks. So, who knows? In any case, it would be the girl who got into trouble if caught, never the business, unlike here.

  15. #8623
    I think there may be a confusion about the word "illegal". I think the OP mean illegal as in "not allowed in HK because it is against management's rules". I don't think anyone will argue that it is literally against the law.

    "Illegal" is not the same as "not allowed".

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