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  1. #8628

    Beggars and scammers.

    Tell the girls who open cab doors at the border to F off. Seriously. You didn't ask for them to open your door, so don't feel bad.

    Think about how many cabs drop people off at this spot per day. Hundreds. Easily. They are such scam artists.

    Many beggars at the border do it full-time. If you pay attention, the same ones are there day after day because they are making more money than any 'respectable' job in Tijuana will pay. Why break your back in a factory for $5-10 per day when you can make that in an hour putting your hand out to gullible tourists?

    Instead of opening cab doors those girls should be in school or bettering themselves somehow instead of ripping off tourists. But they have no incentive to when they can make a great living by Tijuana standards opening cab doors. These girls have been known to pickpocket.

    Don't encourage this behavior by giving them money.

    The average low skill laborer in Tijuana is making $5-20 per day. These girls are making more than that in an hour. Don't reward the harassment of tourists for money with a very comfortable living.

    Quote Originally Posted by Muncher8888  [View Original Post]
    Bearbare,

    Props on the info and map.

    Appreciate it.

    As a rookie I let myself get temporarily worked by the fisha drink game. Then after taking the taxi to the border he did a frownie face when he didn't think I tipped him enough. 5 bucks he can STFU. Anyhow by that time I had had it with the hand-out people and what happens next? A very nice young girl opens my taxi door for me. I thought what a nice ending to a more or less sucky experience (that night only). And then she wants a damn buck for opening the door. Phucks sake LOL.

    Walking can be good for lots of reasons. Thanks again.

  2. #8627
    Quote Originally Posted by Bearbare  [View Original Post]
    If the sun is up, theres no problem walking.
    Bearbare,

    Props on the info and map.

    Appreciate it.

    As a rookie I let myself get temporarily worked by the fisha drink game. Then after taking the taxi to the border he did a frownie face when he didn't think I tipped him enough. 5 bucks he can STFU. Anyhow by that time I had had it with the hand-out people and what happens next? A very nice young girl opens my taxi door for me. I thought what a nice ending to a more or less sucky experience (that night only). And then she wants a damn buck for opening the door. Phucks sake LOL.

    Walking can be good for lots of reasons. Thanks again.

  3. #8626
    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan  [View Original Post]
    Technically, sex is not allowed on the same premises as the bar. Baja (probably other states as well) has anti-brothel laws. That's why you have to exit the bar, onto a public street, and then go into a hotel. They are theoretically different businesses. It's all lip service, but there it is.

    So, is a HJ in a privado illegal? A BJ under the table? Probably, yes. Does it happen? Again, yes. I don't thing groping and licking boobs counts as sex, or every strip club in Tijuana would get closed down. But obviously the laws aren't strictly enforced, and in Mexico money talks. So, who knows? In any case, it would be the girl who got into trouble if caught, never the business, unlike here.
    Sir,

    You may have a point there. These types of establishments find loop holes and circumvent the law. Most of these policies are overlooked. If indeed it is illegal then I stand corrected but obviously it does not stop the activities going on in the club and on the surface it is A-OK.

  4. #8625
    And he is wrong on that count as well. Anything goes in private dance and VIP rooms. If sexual activities weren't allowed there. HK security and meseros would enforce those rules. But they don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by KCQuestor  [View Original Post]
    I think there may be a confusion about the word "illegal". I think the OP mean illegal as in "not allowed in HK because it is against management's rules"

  5. #8624
    Quote Originally Posted by KCQuestor  [View Original Post]
    I think there may be a confusion about the word "illegal". I think the OP mean illegal as in "not allowed in HK because it is against management's rules". I don't think anyone will argue that it is literally against the law.

    "Illegal" is not the same as "not allowed".
    Technically, sex is not allowed on the same premises as the bar. Baja (probably other states as well) has anti-brothel laws. That's why you have to exit the bar, onto a public street, and then go into a hotel. They are theoretically different businesses. It's all lip service, but there it is.

    So, is a HJ in a privado illegal? A BJ under the table? Probably, yes. Does it happen? Again, yes. I don't thing groping and licking boobs counts as sex, or every strip club in Tijuana would get closed down. But obviously the laws aren't strictly enforced, and in Mexico money talks. So, who knows? In any case, it would be the girl who got into trouble if caught, never the business, unlike here.

  6. #8623
    I think there may be a confusion about the word "illegal". I think the OP mean illegal as in "not allowed in HK because it is against management's rules". I don't think anyone will argue that it is literally against the law.

    "Illegal" is not the same as "not allowed".

  7. #8622
    Quote Originally Posted by StRobert  [View Original Post]
    He, he this is confusing. You and I do not decide what and where is legal in HK. The management has its own rules. Don't worry if you do something wrong then security will tell you immediately. If you do not like it and disagree with security, you are immediately escorted to the outside of the club on the street.
    Security doesn't bother me in HK for whatever I do and I will continue to do the same things that I have been doing in HK. Oral sex, finger banging chicas, BJ's and HJ's in the booth, fondling, groping, sucking tits and all that fun shit. Security gives less than a damn. They are present during all these activities.

  8. #8621

    HK policy.

    I am not sure of the no sex policy. It just may not be the girls policy. I have been offered a BJ a few of times in the private rooms. The thing is she can get a half hour break from the bar and make $80 and maybe tip instead of $40 and no chance for upstairs if you finish. I also should mention that the offers were on weekends when she took a quick turnaround to be back for more business.

    I now decline the offer as that's too rushed for me. The half price dance you get each day with vip is a great way to see if she warms up for an arriba.

    Hope this helps.

    I miss the zone everyday.

    Scudrucker.

  9. #8620
    Quote Originally Posted by MongerHunger  [View Original Post]
    A HJ is not sexual intercourse and a person does not have to have a climax from a HJ. Licking pussy on an open stage is considered oral sex. It is sex by definition, the same as a BJ and it's done in the open in plain sight. Fingers are touching and entering genitals just like a HJ that touches genitals. Oral sex and touching / fingering genitals are done in the open but you're saying it's illegal to do the same type of things (oral sex, touching genitals) in the booth. Your argument has holes in it.
    He, he this is confusing. You and I do not decide what and where is legal in HK. The management has its own rules. Don't worry if you do something wrong then security will tell you immediately. If you do not like it and disagree with security, you are immediately escorted to the outside of the club on the street.

  10. #8619
    Quote Originally Posted by TomJackin  [View Original Post]
    Health department + The brothel HK; you can't be serious. Depending on the girl and money, anything goes in the lap dance booth. There are several people, including I that have had sex in the VIP rooms. Not only there, but in TB, BG, and other clubs. No hotel room with a janitor cleaning whatsoever.

    The Tijuana health department is nonexistent in the Zona Norte.
    Regulation of legal prostitution business in Tijuana was in 2005. Since then girls have new health cards (electronic with magnetic strip) and notice (in the case of a Hong Kong hotel) girl gets a compulsory condom, the room is clean, the room has a new sheet, a new towel and a small soap. After you're done with the girl, the janitor waits outside for $ 1 a tip. He, the janitor cleans the room, removes the used condoms and mops the floor with the disinfectant. Hong Kong hotel does not do it because it loves customers so much but because it is the requirements of the Tijuana department of health. So, your statement Hong Kong hotel does not comply with the regulations of the health department and that there are no janitors, is not reliable. Link article from 2005 "Tijuana imposes prostitution regulation" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/9358631/ns...n-regulations/#. XAlhr2 hKg2 x.

  11. #8618
    Quote Originally Posted by Dcrist0527  [View Original Post]
    So, I went to HK Sunday night. The best thing that night was the foam show. It was busier than I expected but nice vibe, good ratio. I just finished with a Musas after a long flight and went to HK to just unwind.

    Monday night I go and again, relatively busy. Walking around on the prowl and a nice looking girl catches my eye with her smile. A couple gropes, $2 later, I move on. But something about that smile brought me back. Long story short, I'm not sure if she robbed me blind or if it was the time of my life. LOL I think I'll post a separate review on the girl. Or I might keep her to myself. A definite diamond in the rough!!

    I'm curious though. What do you consider being played? Honestly, despite spending WAY more than I planned, this girl was everything we search for. I bought the first drink and then the mesero game started. To her credit, she shooed them away. Many times, she told them her bottle is still full. We spent about 2 hours talking, kissing, fondling. Truth be told, the mileage was fairly low but it was just a great experience. After 2 hours, I'm nearly out of cash and then we start talking arriba. Mind you, I'm staying at Ticuan but I'm really loving the arriba idea. So we agree on price for one hour. I run back to Ticuan for more money She does not believe I'll come back. When I walked back in about 10 minutes later, there she was waiting where I left her. Shocked and seemingly happy to see me. Arriba was phenomenal.
    You had the time of your life, but she emptied your pockets. Were you played? It kind of depends, what was the damage for all this? But either way it sounds like you had an epic night, the kind of night that you go to Tijuana for. You both got what you wanted out of it.

  12. #8617

    Stress.

    Wonder if business has been slow lately because of the border situation and chicas are taking their stress out on customers.

    I've noticed a decline in crowds and HK feels dead lately, even on the weekends its not as crazy packed.

    Even taxis have been complaining to me about how local businesses are getting hurt because of the caravan.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    To Dugout,

    HK chicas have been getting nasty lately. You did the right thing to quickly leave the dispute. That's the best way to deal with HK's trouble makers.

    You don't have to worry about future visits since she has no witness or evidence. Most likely she will not be working or remember who you are.

  13. #8616
    Quote Originally Posted by StRobert  [View Original Post]
    Sexual intercourse, BJ, HJ etc. only in a hotel room with a janitor cleaning the later used condoms with sperm with a mop with disinfectant liquid (mostly Fabuloso). Cream show is just a cream show it's not a sexual intercourse with used condoms and sperm. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like the situation looks like this.
    A HJ is not sexual intercourse and a person does not have to have a climax from a HJ. Licking pussy on an open stage is considered oral sex. It is sex by definition, the same as a BJ and it's done in the open in plain sight. Fingers are touching and entering genitals just like a HJ that touches genitals. Oral sex and touching / fingering genitals are done in the open but you're saying it's illegal to do the same type of things (oral sex, touching genitals) in the booth. Your argument has holes in it.

  14. #8615
    To Dugout,

    HK chicas have been getting nasty lately. You did the right thing to quickly leave the dispute. That's the best way to deal with HK's trouble makers.

    You don't have to worry about future visits since she has no witness or evidence. Most likely she will not be working or remember who you are.

  15. #8614
    Quote Originally Posted by StRobert  [View Original Post]
    It looks like it is illegal. These are the regulations of the local Tijuana health department. Sexual intercourse, BJ, HJ etc. only in a hotel room with a janitor cleaning the later used condoms with sperm with a mop with disinfectant liquid.
    Health department + The brothel HK; you can't be serious. Depending on the girl and money, anything goes in the lap dance booth. There are several people, including I that have had sex in the VIP rooms. Not only there, but in TB, BG, and other clubs. No hotel room with a janitor cleaning whatsoever.

    The Tijuana health department is nonexistent in the Zona Norte.

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