Hong Kong Club Reports

[Aviator400]

3 weeks ago I went out with one of my girls on Saturday night. We went to a couple of Clubs. She decided she waned to have a threesome, so we headed back to HK. Tried to go in the door the. Door guy said to problem, but the GM stopped us and said it would cost $300 for her to enter HK, since she did not work. No problem, went to Azul and met a girl there. Play the game.

Had the same issue a couple of months ago. The bouncer was going to let me in with an off-duty HK girl that I planned to TLN and we were making the rounds. She wanted to visit with a few of her friends and possibly set up a 3-way with one of them. The bouncer had gone as far as preparing a wrist band for her, when the manager came out and said it would be $180 to take her in. The other bars let her in for free, so we walked. (Not disappointed, as the 3-way was for her benefit, not mine and we had been made several offers in other bars.).

[Dcrist0527]

3 weeks ago I went out with one of my girls on Saturday night. We went to a couple of Clubs. She decided she waned to have a threesome, so we headed back to HK. Tried to go in the door the. Door guy said to problem, but the GM stopped us and said it would cost $300 for her to enter HK, since she did not work. No problem, went to Azul and met a girl there. Play the game.

One of these girls, who still works at HK, wanted to spend the afternoon and night together. I declined because I had a date with someone else that night. Well, I'm not sure how she supposedly misunderstood "No". She started hounding me on WhatsApp, shows up at my hotel, etc. After I told her, again, it wasn't going to happen, then she said 'I'm going back to work. ' Ok, have fun. Then, she tells me HK fined her $400 for being late and wants me to give her $400. LOL First, the miscommunication was not my fault. Then she tells me she had to give them her rent money so she can be let back in to work and now she doesn't have rent money. Second, she thinks I'm buying this story. LOL Weeks later, she is still blowing up WhatsApp. 'Come back, I want to see you'. Sadly, this girl was alot of fun.

I share not to poke fun at her. But to highlight the stories these girls make up. That is only part of the lies she's told. Sadly. I'm sure some suckers fall for these stories, thinking with the wrong head.

I'm just hoping she's long gone before my next visit.

[ClamSlammer]

I don't know the answer but I know this. There used to be a paid forum dedicated to Tijuana. The owner shut it down due to the new law in US. Many of the ISG members are also on that forum. Captain probably has several thousands of posts there too.

The discussion there is extensive and detailed. Just one example, there were a lot of discussions about FB groups which is almost never mentioned here. I tend to believe what CS said because he was an active member there.

Yes that particular forum offered extensive information on Tijuana. Not just the mongering scene, but everyday living as well. Some mongers had their area of expertise, which was quite expansive in some cases. My particular area of expertise was HK. When posters had questions about HK, they called me out specifically. I'm the one broke many of the insider stories about what was going on. When chicas got suspended, I posted first. When they got their health cards revoked, I posted first. Which chicas got pregnant? I posted first. Which got abortions? I posted first. Fresh, just turned 18 talent about to begin the HK careers, I posted first. When chicas got into fights, I posted first on why. Chicas got assaulted by mongers in Cascadas, I posted first. Managers / meseros fucking the chicas? I posted who was fucking who.

I'm not technically an insider myself, but I have a network of trusted insiders built throughout the years who pass me info of the comings and goings of HK. I know a lot of shit that goes on, much of which I don't post anywhere. But all this talk about ficha quotas and schedules is just complete nonsense. They don't exist. Period. Some of the garbage people post on here makes no sense whatsoever, such as the supposed 200 ficha weekly quota. That would be a ficha every 12 minutes. If it takes the mesero 2 minutes to come back with a ficha, a chica would drink a ficha every 10 minutes during the entire duration of their shift! And that's not even counting away-time for stage dancing and arribas. Just purely impossible! And that other nonsense post where someone insisted that customized ficha quotas exist at HK. Well, after I proved that a customized ficha quota would directly lead HK to bankruptcy, we never hear another peep from that OP. And here's something else to think about for those of you that still think a strict schedule is feasible with HK putas. You would have to be a [Deleted by Admin] to institute a strict work schedule for a group of alcoholic, drunk, hungover, drug-addicted putas! You think they are reliable to come into work at a certain time? Wake the fuck up people! If a puta comes in late, what are you going to do? Suspend her? You'd have half your putas on suspension. You got to give them some flexibility on when they come to work. It's just part of the business. Like I said, they can come in any time they want at the accepted intervals, and choose any 5 days a week to come in. That's the 100% truth.

[ClamSlammer]

For my experiences, when I asked what if they are going to be working tomorrow or the following day, they always told me their schedule or if they are going to be off. All but one of them, showed up the days they told me.

There is no HK schedule for chicas, period. A chica may have a mental schedule in her head, an idea of which days she will work and which she will take off. But there is no HK chica schedule.

CS,

I appreciate your contributions to this board. But with all due respect, how do you know this? If I'm not mistaken, you posted not too long ago that the girls can't be trusted as far as these topics go. So is this is what you've been told by some of the bar girls? If not, I think it's only fair to request in a general sense who told you this.

Chicas told me this. And I've seen this in action numerous times. I am not your typical monger. The typical monger on this board is a customer. Chicas sometimes have a financial incentive to lie to a customer. I've never been a customer to a HK chica in my life. And I've fucked a decent amount of them. My chicas wouldn't take money from me even if I offered. They have no financial motivation to lie to me about HK policies. I've had countless nights where a HK chica spent the night. And the next day they would debate on whether they would go to work or not. If there was a hard schedule there would be no debating. And every single one of these chicas have told me the exact same thing regarding their work requirements. That is how I know.

Unless you own HK and personally set these rules. You can't be 100% certain in any of this. I've seen more versions of all these rules than there are taco vendors in all of Mexico. And everyone's version is the right one. Because you know. They heard it from a "trustworthy" chica or a mesero.

No I don't own HK, and no I don't set the rules. But yes, I can be 100% certain because I see it with my own eyes, the exact same thing a hundred times with no variation whatsoever.

Then each of them said I'd have to pay their fine for missing a day of work. The fine was $300 according to the first chica. The other told me it was $400. Needless to say, they went to work. LOL. But I had numerous chicas tell me their schedules last month. And they all seemed to indicate there was some penalty or consequence for not showing up. They all also told me the same line; they work 8 hour shifts during the day and 9 on weekends.

If you get two different amounts from chicas that have a financial motive to lie, then you've gotten lies. The fine is not $300 or $400. The fine is a maximum of $80, unless it was increased with the last ficha price hike, in which case it may be $90 now. So these chicas wanted $300/$400 to pay the fine and another couple hundred for the date? LOL. These chicas were probably facing no fine at all. They're allowed two days off a week, any two days they choose. They could have simply used a day off, provided that they hadn't already used their two days, and went out with you instead with no threat of a fine by HK mgt. The 8 HR /9 HR shifts are accurate as I previously stated.

[Keg]

If I book a room at the hk motel. Do you still have to pay when you take a chica upstairs? I've always just paid at the counter for the quick rental. If it is possible to take the Chica to your room. What are the chances on being able to negotiate for a long (2 hour) session.

Hotel Cascadas is the hotel where you take chicas from HK, and also Hotel Rizo de Oro across the street is allowed too. Both have short-time and overnight room rentals. If you have a room for the night you are not limited to the number of chicas you take up to your room. I have never had a problem at either hotel when I've had a room for the night, yet there are posts on occasion where someone says they had issues when trying to take up a Walker or Street Girls, but there is not normally problems with taking up Bar Girls to your room. You can negotiate just about anything, if you are interested in more time with the chica in your room, then specify what you're going to pay upfront, don't just go up to the room and expect her to not ask you for more once she's up there and you're naked, LOL.

[WindAngel]

CS,

I appreciate your contributions to this board. But with all due respect, how do you know this? If I'm not mistaken, you posted not too long ago that the girls can't be trusted as far as these topics go. So is this is what you've been told by some of the bar girls? If not, I think it's only fair to request in a general sense who told you this.

I don't know the answer but I know this. There used to be a paid forum dedicated to Tijuana. The owner shut it down due to the new law in US. Many of the ISG members are also on that forum. Captain probably has several thousands of posts there too.

The discussion there is extensive and detailed. Just one example, there were a lot of discussions about FB groups which is almost never mentioned here. I tend to believe what CS said because he was an active member there.

[DramaFree11]

Relevant story from my last visit. I don't claim to have any inside knowledge. And I take everything the chicas tell me with a healthy does of skepticism. As I mentioned in previous posts, I had an unusually high volume of phone numbers given to me this last visit. Some were just for dates at my hotel after their shift. Some were for dinner, etc. Two different girls that seemingly don't know each other asked if I'd be interested in essentially a 12-24 hour date. I wasn't opposed to it. Then each of them said I'd have to pay their fine for missing a day of work. The fine was $300 according to the first chica. The other told me it was $400. Needless to say, they went to work. LOL.

Again, I have no insider knowledge. But I had numerous chicas tell me their schedules last month. And they all seemed to indicate there was some penalty or consequence for not showing up. They all also told me the same line; they work 8 hour shifts during the day and 9 on weekends.

I'm done being interested in the inner-politics of these bars. I once had an interest to understand what a chica potentially makes in a day. I wanted to fairly compensate a friend for her time. But fairness seems to be relative there.

3 weeks ago I went out with one of my girls on Saturday night. We went to a couple of Clubs. She decided she waned to have a threesome, so we headed back to HK. Tried to go in the door the. Door guy said to problem, but the GM stopped us and said it would cost $300 for her to enter HK, since she did not work. No problem, went to Azul and met a girl there. Play the game.

[DramaFree11]

CS,

I appreciate your contributions to this board. But with all due respect, how do you know this? If I'm not mistaken, you posted not too long ago that the girls can't be trusted as far as these topics go. So is this is what you've been told by some of the bar girls? If not, I think it's only fair to request in a general sense who told you this.

Disclaimer, I don't really care about any of this. But I have an innate urge to rectify all apparent logical inconsistencies I encounter.

That's is what I thought. He and others jumped all over me and for saying the same thing. I real could care less. Hk is fun place and girls are great for short term trips. Long term, better destinations.

[Qbvert]

If I book a room at the hk motel. Do you still have to pay when you take a chica upstairs? I've always just paid at the counter for the quick rental. If it is possible to take the Chica to your room. What are the chances on being able to negotiate for a long (2 hour) session.

[Dcrist0527]

Absolutely false! The vast majority of HK chicas have no set time or day they have to work. This I am absolutely, 100% certain of. Chicas can show up any day they like, but must work 5 day work weeks. If they don't work 5 days, they are not permitted to work the next weekend day. And when they return they are fined $80 dls. This fine amount may have increased since fichas were raised to $9 but I'm not sure. Chicas must work 8 hour days Sun-Wed and 9 hour days Thurs-Sat. They can only show up at set intervals, such as 4 pm, 6 pm, 8 pm etc. If they show up at 7 pm, it counts as them showing up at 8 pm. There are of course exceptions for chicas that are favored by management. But what I've written is true for the majority of chicas at HK.

Relevant story from my last visit. I don't claim to have any inside knowledge. And I take everything the chicas tell me with a healthy does of skepticism. As I mentioned in previous posts, I had an unusually high volume of phone numbers given to me this last visit. Some were just for dates at my hotel after their shift. Some were for dinner, etc. Two different girls that seemingly don't know each other asked if I'd be interested in essentially a 12-24 hour date. I wasn't opposed to it. Then each of them said I'd have to pay their fine for missing a day of work. The fine was $300 according to the first chica. The other told me it was $400. Needless to say, they went to work. LOL.

Again, I have no insider knowledge. But I had numerous chicas tell me their schedules last month. And they all seemed to indicate there was some penalty or consequence for not showing up. They all also told me the same line; they work 8 hour shifts during the day and 9 on weekends.

I'm done being interested in the inner-politics of these bars. I once had an interest to understand what a chica potentially makes in a day. I wanted to fairly compensate a friend for her time. But fairness seems to be relative there.

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Absolutely false! The vast majority of HK chicas have no set time or day they have to work. This I am absolutely, 100% certain of. Chicas can show up any day they like, but must work 5 day work weeks. If they don't work 5 days, they are not permitted to work the next weekend day. And when they return they are fined $80 dls. This fine amount may have increased since fichas were raised to $9 but I'm not sure. Chicas must work 8 hour days Sun-Wed and 9 hour days Thurs-Sat. They can only show up at set intervals, such as 4 pm, 6 pm, 8 pm etc. If they show up at 7 pm, it counts as them showing up at 8 pm. There are of course exceptions for chicas that are favored by management. But what I've written is true for the majority of chicas at HK.

Speaking for myself, my trips to Hong Kong are normally about 3 days (Arrive Monday afternoon, leave Wednesday morning). So, for my trips my only concern is knowing if they are working in the next couple of days while I'm staying at Cascadas, if I am thinking about seeing them again. For my experiences, when I asked what if they are going to be working tomorrow or the following day, they always told me their schedule or if they are going to be off. All but one of them, showed up the days they told me.

On repeat visits, I don't have any expectations that any of the ladies I saw are still working the same days and hours from the last time I saw them, or even if they are still working at Hong Kong.

Knowing how fichas and scheduling system works, doesn't give any guy an advantage, when asking lady to go upstairs and what the price will be. During my stay all that maters is the 72 hours of my trip.

[Long Don Silva]

Absolutely false! The vast majority of HK chicas have no set time or day they have to work. This I am absolutely, 100% certain of. Chicas can show up any day they like, but must work 5 day work weeks. If they don't work 5 days, they are not permitted to work the next weekend day. And when they return they are fined $80 dls. This fine amount may have increased since fichas were raised to $9 but I'm not sure. Chicas must work 8 hour days Sun-Wed and 9 hour days Thurs-Sat. They can only show up at set intervals, such as 4 pm, 6 pm, 8 pm etc. If they show up at 7 pm, it counts as them showing up at 8 pm. There are of course exceptions for chicas that are favored by management. But what I've written is true for the majority of chicas at HK.

CS,

I appreciate your contributions to this board. But with all due respect, how do you know this? If I'm not mistaken, you posted not too long ago that the girls can't be trusted as far as these topics go. So is this is what you've been told by some of the bar girls? If not, I think it's only fair to request in a general sense who told you this.

Disclaimer, I don't really care about any of this. But I have an innate urge to rectify all apparent logical inconsistencies I encounter.

[Ctytek]

Unless you own HK and personally set these rules. You can't be 100% certain in any of this. I've seen more versions of all these rules than there are taco vendors in all of Mexico. And everyone's version is the right one. Because you know. They heard it from a "trustworthy" chica or a mesero.

At the end of the day. It doesn't matter. HK seels drinks, chicas sell fichas and pussy. We buy both of those things. The arguments about the intricacies or chicas scheduling or ficha schemas aren't all that interesting.

Absolutely false! The vast majority of HK chicas have no set time or day they have to work. This I am absolutely, 100% certain of. Chicas can show up any day they like, but must work 5 day work weeks. If they don't work 5 days, they are not permitted to work the next weekend day. And when they return they are fined $80 dls. This fine amount may have increased since fichas were raised to $9 but I'm not sure. Chicas must work 8 hour days Sun-Wed and 9 hour days Thurs-Sat. They can only show up at set intervals, such as 4 pm, 6 pm, 8 pm etc. If they show up at 7 pm, it counts as them showing up at 8 pm. There are of course exceptions for chicas that are favored by management. But what I've written is true for the majority of chicas at HK.

[ClamSlammer]

As for a scheduling, they do have set days they work. Just ask for their schedule. If they don't show up on the day / time they said they would, it might be a no call / no show for them. The only time I heard about a contract or an agreement of any kind is the ladies that do that shaving cream show.

Absolutely false! The vast majority of HK chicas have no set time or day they have to work. This I am absolutely, 100% certain of. Chicas can show up any day they like, but must work 5 day work weeks. If they don't work 5 days, they are not permitted to work the next weekend day. And when they return they are fined $80 dls. This fine amount may have increased since fichas were raised to $9 but I'm not sure. Chicas must work 8 hour days Sun-Wed and 9 hour days Thurs-Sat. They can only show up at set intervals, such as 4 pm, 6 pm, 8 pm etc. If they show up at 7 pm, it counts as them showing up at 8 pm. There are of course exceptions for chicas that are favored by management. But what I've written is true for the majority of chicas at HK.

[Mr Fahrenheit]

LOL. We spend a lot of time arguing about what the ficha rules are in a country where everyone bends them at will. Whether there are quotas or not is irrelevant. No one would follow them anyways.

There is no point in trying to figure out fichas system. Ask 10 different girls and you'll get 10 different systems. The only thing that matters is that Hong Kong is in the business of selling fichas, and the ladies and the meseros are part of that system. I'm sure they both benefit in some way when selling a ficha drink since the server hands out ticket and signs off using the lady's stage name. But I don't see the point in asking or trying to figure it out.

I just make sure I get all the intel I need when I sit down a buy a lady drink. If we have good chemistry, I'll ask her to go upstairs, if we don't I get 10-15 minutes to flirt around. Worst case, she downs her drinks and asks for another, I decline and move on.

As for a scheduling, they do have set days they work. Just ask for their schedule. If they don't show up on the day / time they said they would, it might be a no call / no show for them. The only time I heard about a contract or an agreement of any kind is the ladies that do that shaving cream show.

I asked a few of my regulars if they ever done a shaving cream show, most of their responses were along the lines of, "I wouldn't sign up to be in those". One of my regulars was in the shows for the evening. Before we went upstairs she told me she had to be back down at a certain time; after I rested up she was on stage doing the shaving cream show.

That's the only thing I can think of when it comes to contracts / agreements / perks. Not a lot of the women want to be in that show. They would have to take multiple showers a day, perform lesbian acts and have large dildos that could also be attached to a power tool shoved in them on stage.