Hong Kong Club Reports

[TigerMuskie]

If you're attracted to Mexican girls, it's worth it. You'll never know until you go. Whether you'll like it enough to want to return, only you can determine that. Having said all that, if you're not financially stable enough to where you need to know the precise cost of everything such as cover charge, then perhaps the hobby itself is more the question than Tijuana which by the way consists of much more than Hong Kong, Cascadas and the Zona.

I was curious as I had gone to St. Marteen, which is an island in the Caribbean, and they have chica bars populated mostly by Columbianas. Its $70-$80/30 minutes and includes room rate at those places but they are pretty basic places. However, its hard to not have a good time on a tropical island that also has chicas clubs. Sounds like like HK is much nicer and probably has higher quality girls but a little more $$. I like latinas and asian women but have visited less latina venues.

I have been mongering mostly in the USA For 12 years but have mongered in Thailand, Japan and St. Marteen and Costa Rica. So when I ask about cost I am comparing cost, service and chica attractiveness against what I can get at other mongering locations. I am looking at Costa Rica, CDMX or Bay Area and SCAL kgirl scene. The Bay Area Kgril scene is 1 hour $280 and by default you get MSOG, BBBJCIM, DFK and even BBFS if want it. You also have a review site that pretty much tells you the girls service quality and attractiveness as you can't always trust the photoshopped pics. As you say above it really comes down to preference. I have a trip coming up in March to Lisbon, where I will be mongering. I have not gone to a FFK but most likely will hit one of those in the future. I pretty sure I would not go to Medellin due to them drugging and killing foreign mongers.

I appreciate everyone's providing information as I consider future trips. Thank you!!

[AgaveBoy]

I have read ten pages of commentary trying to understand girl cost at HK. I have not been to Tijuana was trying to figure out if it's worth it. Is $120 per hour or 30 minutes? If you have a room at Cascada what is the barfine to take the chica to your room for a visit? Is there an entrance fee for the club? I understand drink costs, plenty of discussion on that. Any clarification for this noob is greatly appreciated.

What MacNCheeze said, plus a couple of footnotes:

1. Recommend that you get your own room if you're expecting to go upstairs with 2 or more girls. Works out to almost the same overall cost as short term, plus you have somewhere to put your stuff and relax.

2. $100-120 is the generic going rate these days for 30 minutes. If your tastes run outside of CBJ and CFS, you should negotiate that up front with the girl while you're still in the bar. In every case, make sure you're agreed on a price before you go up.

3. On the subject of Fri / Sat and the cover charge, if you have a room then you can get a wristband at either registration desk in Cascadas that basically identifies you as a hotel guest at the entrances to HK.

[TigerMuskie]

$100-120 for 30 minutes on average to the girl depending on your negotiating skills. No fee to HK for taking a girl up if you have a room, or $40 to rent a short time room. No cover charge to get into HK except Fri and Sat night but it includes a beer. No charge either if you have their vip card or are staying at the hotel.

Thanks for the information MacNCheeze.

[MacNCheeze]

I have read ten pages of commentary trying to understand girl cost at HK. I have not been to Tijuana was trying to figure out if it's worth it. Is $120 per hour or 30 minutes? If you have a room at Cascada what is the barfine to take the chica to your room for a visit? Is there an entrance fee for the club? I understand drink costs, plenty of discussion on that. Any clarification for this noob is greatly appreciated.

$100-120 for 30 minutes on average to the girl depending on your negotiating skills. No fee to HK for taking a girl up if you have a room, or $40 to rent a short time room. No cover charge to get into HK except Fri and Sat night but it includes a beer. No charge either if you have their vip card or are staying at the hotel.

[LuvMexicanas]

I have read ten pages of commentary trying to understand girl cost at HK. I have not been to Tijuana was trying to figure out if it's worth it. Is $120 per hour or 30 minutes? If you have a room at Cascada what is the barfine to take the chica to your room for a visit? Is there an entrance fee for the club? I understand drink costs, plenty of discussion on that. Any clarification for this noob is greatly appreciated.

If you're attracted to Mexican girls, it's worth it. You'll never know until you go. Whether you'll like it enough to want to return, only you can determine that. Having said all that, if you're not financially stable enough to where you need to know the precise cost of everything such as cover charge, then perhaps the hobby itself is more the question than Tijuana which by the way consists of much more than Hong Kong, Cascadas and the Zona.

[TigerMuskie]

I have read ten pages of commentary trying to understand girl cost at HK. I have not been to Tijuana was trying to figure out if it's worth it. Is $120 per hour or 30 minutes? If you have a room at Cascada what is the barfine to take the chica to your room for a visit? Is there an entrance fee for the club? I understand drink costs, plenty of discussion on that. Any clarification for this noob is greatly appreciated.

[AgaveBoy]

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[Baxter Slade]

I was bored and figured to find out what this is.

https://help.uber.com/riders/article...e-f6b5e5311e25

Thanks for being bored. The more I thought about it the more I became curious.

However as a security feature for women traveling at night I don't think it provides security since she is already in the car reading the driver the code. I believe the way it should work is the driver should be giving her the 4 digit code that she can match on her phone before entering the vehicle.

[AmericanPi]

7 years ago when girls in HK charged 80-100 , entrance fee was $5 on Fri-Sat, crowds filled up Adelitas where women charged $60 and no entrance fee. We didn't have any reason to go to HK at all, specially on Thur, Fri and Sat nights. Now, when HK girls charged $120 on average so do women in Chicago and even in BT. Come on, this is BS.

People tell me HK is shit in general. However I think that depends on the perspective. If you are in the Zona every week or even everyday, then you see HK as a money milking shady org. If you are there once in Month or two then you find HK to be the only alternative that floats your boat.

Agreed 100. I only go once in a while and I'm happy to spend 50 pct more to have the widest variety in a decent setting. If there were a truly viable alternative I'the go there. But there's not.

[Zenduka1]

"Nothing compares to HK" . HK is garbage and you do not get out much if you believe that.

If you mean by not get out much, of the rest of the world then you might have a point. However I saw Thailand specially Bangkok and Pattaya. I did not like it. They women are not my type. There are many friendly people but there are too many stiffos specially outside of the red zones. Just did not like Thailand where pussy is like a bottle top you find in a dirt. No prudence, all out in the open. Yuck!

[Sol12]

Follows is a quick and crude analysis of the cost of sex compared to basic meals using most likely costs:

In Tijuana Mexico, a basic meal costs 75 pesos. Lots of street girls will do half hour sessions for 500 pesos, HK bar girls, 2400 pesos, so 6 meals for street pussies and 45 meals for clubs'.

Mexican club pussies are way inflated to ridiculous levels. You don't want to have to skip 45 meals in 30 days just to poke a club girl. How the hell can average locals skips 45 meals just to poke a HK pussy? HK keeps raising prices for pussies, drinks, hotels, tips ect. I get very offended when HK girls demand $30 fake wine fichas. That's the equivalent wage of 3 work days for unskilled people like those HK putas, $6 per minute or $360 per hour. Even Mexican brain surgeons don't make that extremely high wages. I know a few Mexican MDs with their own successful practices, but even they cannot afford these ridiculous HK girls. Every visit they would sample 1 or 2 HK girls and do mostly street girls.

We should be smart to minimize spending in HK and not help fake, rotten HK putas to keep jacking prices on their stinking pussies. Fortunately I know a few nice, clean, hot and sweet HK girls who would do me for 1,000- 1,200 pesos. I always plead poverty to them and it works, but the $40 Cascada ST rooms with early knocking just pisses me off. I get disgusted thinking of too many stinky HK pussies blew up in my face.

Stick with street pussies. There are many spinners on the streets, most are very nice, sweet, looking good, smelling good, feeling good. A few would do full BBBJ and BBFS if you get to know them. Street girls are humble and honest, work hard to raise bastard children and help their families. I have never gotten a stinky pussy on the street of Tijuana.

Try in every way not to destroy the markets for locals.

Seems like an odd way to show the difference between the price of a BG compared to a SG. One of the problems with your theory is that anywhere you go a BG will always be more than a SG so what we as tourists pays has no effect on the locals, if anything we are driving the price up more on SG which is what a regular would pay to be with because when they go to clubs it's usually just to drink with other guys and maybe buy a few drinks and flirt with the girls but seldom take them for sex.

I also think you misrepresented what a club girl makes going for the price they ask compared to what the real price paid is. Where with the SG the price seemed to be a low number compared to what is usually posted as the price guys pay.

With your math of 2400 being 45 meals is incorrect it's 32. Most girls get paid 1600 so that's only 21 meals. Lastly if a SG gets 500 that would be 6. 7 meals which should be rounded up to 7 not down to 6.

All that being said you should be happy that we are seeing girls in the bar since it keeps the prices down on your SG and you can laugh at all of us wasting money on bar girls.

[Sol12]

Yea I have not been able to figure that one out. When we get in the car she has to give the driver a 4 digit code. He then enters the code in his phone and it seems to unlock the ride and we are ready to go. If he puts the code in wrong we aint going anywhere. The strange thing is if she orders an uber / didi for me, I get worried and ask her am I going to need a code? And the answer is no. I just get in and go.

I was bored and figured to find out what this is.

https://help.uber.com/riders/article...e-f6b5e5311e25

[Zenduka1]

IIRC, Hong Kong used to open at 3 pm. So guys would go to Adelitas first, and later move to HK.

7 years ago when girls in HK charged 80-100 , entrance fee was $5 on Fri-Sat, crowds filled up Adelitas where women charged $60 and no entrance fee. We didn't have any reason to go to HK at all, specially on Thur, Fri and Sat nights. Now, when HK girls charged $120 on average so do women in Chicago and even in BT. Come on, this is BS.

People tell me HK is shit in general. However I think that depends on the perspective. If you are in the Zona every week or even everyday, then you see HK as a money milking shady org. If you are there once in Month or two then you find HK to be the only alternative that floats your boat.

[Explorer8939]

Hong Kong was a small club, inside there were a few chairs and tables with not very attractive chicas. I was there around year 2000. The entrance to the Miami club was from the alley side and it was a completely separate club, separated from the Hong Kong club by a wall. They dismantled the wall and connected both clubs. Before the Internet, clubs in Zona Norte were clubs mainly for locals and most Americans knew nothing about Zona Norte.

IIRC, Hong Kong used to open at 3 pm. So guys would go to Adelitas first, and later move to HK.

[StRobert]

I mean you have to have the financial resources for that kind of effort though. I'm no Zona Norte historian and certainly wasn't around back then but my understanding is HK started out as a small club just like these other clubs before gradually expanding over the years as they accumulated "resources". Assuming it's true that HK is cartel-backed, it's maybe not too difficult to understand how HK was able to expand and rise in prominence over the years. A lot of these smaller clubs maybe don't have the benefit of those same resources.

Hong Kong was a small club, inside there were a few chairs and tables with not very attractive chicas. I was there around year 2000. The entrance to the Miami club was from the alley side and it was a completely separate club, separated from the Hong Kong club by a wall. They dismantled the wall and connected both clubs. Before the Internet, clubs in Zona Norte were clubs mainly for locals and most Americans knew nothing about Zona Norte. Only information on the Internet combined with the policy of prohibition of legal prostitution in the USA (except for a few counties in Nevada) caused a boom in clubs such as Hong Kong, Adelita, Chicago, etc. Guys from the USA, retired, divorced, single, married, etc. With a huge amount of US dollars started spending dollars in Zona Norte because they can't in the US because prostitution is illegal. (Endless sting operations in massage parlors and on the streets in California and other states. In Texas, even prison sentences.) And also it is not easy to travel for one evening or weekend to Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Europe or Thailand. Generally, clubs in Zona Norte have a win-win situation. Located minutes from the border with a huge country like the USA where prostitution is illegal. There is no competition from the US and they are laughing all the way to the bank. BTW ISG Forum is probably a rare forum where you can freely discuss the situation of prostitution in the USA and world without attacks from puritans, feminists, etc.