Hong Kong Club Reports

[Rainman306]

Was the last raise lady drink price increase just last year or 2 years ago? I sure hope that HK is not planning to increase the price by $1 every year.

I can't ever imagine a lady drink being more than $20, which could be within a decade if HK is going to raise the price every year.

[Flawless Zeal]

I wouldn't fly to SD / Tijuana unless at most 1.5 hrs away. Anything longer doesn't merit the trouble. There are better / cheaper options.

Even just to try it once? I've seen reports say there is little that gets close to the experience of HK, short of flying all the way to FKK clubs or to Brazil. I've been to Colombia, but didn't love the feeling of having to always be on your toes and extra cautious with everything (spiked drinks, SA / FB girls, incalls, etc), and the seeming lack of any English (I speak enough Spanish to get by, but struggle in loud clubs or talking in depth). DR isn't my type and CR / Panama have mixed reviews on the quality (I'm coming from East Coast). I do plan to try Montreal when weather is better, though that certainly isn't cheaper.

[El Guerito]

You say nobody goes there anymore while saying it's so crowded. Which is it? Is it crowded or does nobody go there? You can't say both.

He was being sarcastic. It's a famous quote from Yogi Berra.

https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/yogi_berra_100418

[Zenduka1]

The US is worst there is no American dream get real. Ill rather live in Mexico or Brazil.

Actually the US is a good place to live. If you are modest in your living and do not involve with the women and politics you could be alright.

[Rambo1969]

Got to feel bad for a lifer there. Can't imagine any woman wanting to do that for their entire life. Probably a sad story behind each lifer that are all pretty similar: need to support kids, no education to get different job, dead beat husband that left them, parents and relatives that don't work and expect them to support them. Feel lucky you live in the united states fellas and most likely never have to sell your body and dignity to pay your rent.

I disagree.

The difficulty is mostly is getting into this profession. They have to already gone past the rationalization phase and experience of how customers are like before they make this a permanent career.

For those that do make it a permanent career they draw their boundaries and stick to it and are willing to say NO to business that crosses their boundaries. Those people are very comfortable because they have their own grove and work-life balance. They also tend to have regular clients that ensure a healthy income.

Example: I only see a 'lifer' (her name is Karumi) and I am convinced she is leading a comfortable life and I don't need to feel sorry for her. I know she has many regular clients and does financially very well. She goes on month long vacations twice a year, etc. She has hour daily work schedule and personal time for jogging, etc.

[Zenduka1]

The problem is when airfare is by far the biggest expense. Then it seems a waste to go only 1-2 days.

I wouldn't fly to SD / Tijuana unless at most 1.5 hrs away. Anything longer doesn't merit the trouble. There are better / cheaper options.

[Zenduka1]

You say nobody goes there anymore while saying it's so crowded. Which is it? Is it crowded or does nobody go there? You can't say both.

Its a paradox he put up, LOL. Pulling your leg.

[KetoAndKettle]

Yep, I definitely wouldn't become a regular there, again, unless I moved back to san diego. That was easy to throw a yes at once a month.

Now I limit my trips to when I hit a milestone in some area, like seeing my bottom abs, or hitting a particular monthly income for my business.

Just pure celebration of something.

I almost wish san diego would split into a separate state with new governor and new laws, politics, etc. Maybe I'd move back.

Yeah, it's quite expensive to have fun there now. $40 for room, tip for cum boys doing nothing, tip for robe guy who does nothing for you, tip to all the criminal waitors each they they bring you a drink, $11 drinks that are requested every 5 minutes, $120 for girl for like 15-20 min of whatever. Don't forget transportation and parking costs if applicable.

Each trip will hurt your wallet. I don't' mine the 120 costs for the women. It's all the other stuff that is out of control.

[Enter The V]

Got to feel bad for a lifer there. Can't imagine any woman wanting to do that for their entire life. Probably a sad story behind each lifer that are all pretty similar: need to support kids, no education to get different job, dead beat husband that left them, parents and relatives that don't work and expect them to support them. Feel lucky you live in the united states fellas and most likely never have to sell your body and dignity to pay your rent.

The US is worst there is no American dream get real. Ill rather live in Mexico or Brazil.

[ABAJoeSmith123]

Another thing I've noticed is that, as these clubs mature, they get stuck with a lot of "lifers", and the turn over rate goes down, meaning less fresh girls.

It's like in other occupations where you have unproductive people but they have tenure so you can't get rid of them.

I swear, some of the girls working at HK have literally been there since the dawn of time. This is the same reason I was never a fan of Adelitas: too many hardened lifers.

Also, having a lot of lifers means that new girls are more quickly indoctrinated and exposed to hardened lifer attitudes.

Don't get me wrong. You can still have a great time in Tijuana and HK, you just have to pick your spots more. Also, you have to go there more or less consistently to find any good deals. If I was only going for a vacation, I would say that there are more attractive options out there. Of course, I live in So Cal, so I could go every week if I wanted.

Got to feel bad for a lifer there. Can't imagine any woman wanting to do that for their entire life. Probably a sad story behind each lifer that are all pretty similar: need to support kids, no education to get different job, dead beat husband that left them, parents and relatives that don't work and expect them to support them. Feel lucky you live in the united states fellas and most likely never have to sell your body and dignity to pay your rent.

[ABAJoeSmith123]

I agree with the principle behind your post. HK prices gone up too much too quickly.

Yeah, it's quite expensive to have fun there now. $40 for room, tip for cum boys doing nothing, tip for robe guy who does nothing for you, tip to all the criminal waitors each they they bring you a drink, $11 drinks that are requested every 5 minutes, $120 for girl for like 15-20 min of whatever. Don't forget transportation and parking costs if applicable.

Each trip will hurt your wallet. I don't' mine the 120 costs for the women. It's all the other stuff that is out of control.

[HK Monger]

Another thing I've noticed is that, as these clubs mature, they get stuck with a lot of "lifers", and the turn over rate goes down, meaning less fresh girls.

It's like in other occupations where you have unproductive people but they have tenure so you can't get rid of them.

I swear, some of the girls working at HK have literally been there since the dawn of time. This is the same reason I was never a fan of Adelitas: too many hardened lifers.

Also, having a lot of lifers means that new girls are more quickly indoctrinated and exposed to hardened lifer attitudes.

Don't get me wrong. You can still have a great time in Tijuana and HK, you just have to pick your spots more. Also, you have to go there more or less consistently to find any good deals. If I was only going for a vacation, I would say that there are more attractive options out there. Of course, I live in So Cal, so I could go every week if I wanted.

[TomJackin]

What do Dominican girls look like. Are they black, Hispanic black, Brazilian mixed looked.

Most of the women are dark skinned and will steal anything in your room that is not nailed down!

[Rambo1969]

I usually do 2 or 3 night trips to zona ending leaving on Saturdays.

For the first time I stayed over Saturday night and I did not enjoy it.

It was more crowded than Friday and too crowded for my liking.

The girls were not any better, etc.

I will avoid going to HK on Saturday nights.

[Rambo1969]

The price gouging in HK has really gotten out of hand. $40 dollars for a short term room is outrageous. I simply won't pay it. The only way to go is basically to have your own room, nowadays. The last thing I want to happen is to pay $40 for that room and have the towel boy come knocking after 15-20 min, and then have the nerve to demand a tip.

Ladies drinks were always a rip off. Now even more so. Annoying meseros. Even the robe guy has always bothered me. So many damn dudes interfering.

But the worst thing is that I really think the business model hurts the girls. Every time I go there, I see the same thing. The majority of the girls standing around all night, perhaps never even going upstairs with a client. And I know that a lot of the guys in there are thinking the same thing I'm thinking: that it is simply too expensive to take a chance on less than a perfect opportunity.

I find myself being a lot more selective than I used to be, simply because I am unwilling to fork over $150+ for a bad or mediocre experience. In the old days, it was a lot easier to try a new girl, and even if she wasn't that good, it was like not that big of a deal because you were only out a couple of bucks. Now, if she's no good, it literally ruins my whole night.

The high barrier to entry has literally been the difference between me going with some of the girls or not, which is unfortunate for the girls, who would otherwise be getting my business. Also, I find it hard to believe that this "trying to ht a home run" mentality generates more revenue than just the slow steady income they would generate from more reasonable prices.

Why don't they just go ahead and have a cover charge, like 5 or 10 bucks or something, but at the same time lower the room / drink prices? This would eliminate some of the penniless riffriff and make the place less of a sausage-fest, but it really wouldn't deter the guys that actually want to do business there. The lower barrier to entry would make it a better environment for the guys and girls, and they would probably pull about the same revenue as before.

The best thing that we can hope for is that this virtual monopoly that HK has is eventually ended. We desperately need a legit competitor to HK. When HK was a younger club, it was kind of cool, but as the years have gone by, it has sought to abuse it's monopoly to a greater and greater extent.

I agree with the principle behind your post. HK prices gone up too much too quickly.