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  1. #16011
    Quote Originally Posted by BaxterSlade  [View Original Post]
    Man you got lucky, my guess is more than half the time guys send money in advance they get ghosted when its time for the meetup.
    Yeah, believe me I was fully aware of the possibility of getting ghosted but decided to go with my gut instinct that she wouldn't pull that with me. She seems to be an extremely honest person with zero filter. Nonetheless I still took the risk hoping this goodwill on my part would be compensated with a reward. I had sent the money from my "executive account" for all my Mad Men fans, so if I lost it, no biggie.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slicknaz  [View Original Post]
    I am in the area for a few more days and might be interested in making one more trip before heading back home, if you would like to do a little meetup trip shoot me a message and maybe we can link up for a few drinks and laughs.
    I'm going back around 7 pm later on probably. Don't know if I'm going to drive into Mexico or park somewhere near the border and walk over yet. I'll probably make another trip on Thursday as well.

    Hopefully I can find one of the girls from the foam show I mentioned from Sunday night. Also going to look for that girl from Adelitas that a monger wouldn't let go of because she sets off my GFE spidey senses LOL.

  2. #16010
    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMexicanas  [View Original Post]
    How is that possible? You previously argued that hot Hong Kong chicas make $5,000 some weeks. Let's be conservative and say she makes that 12 out of 52 weeks. That's $60,000 just those weeks alone on top of what she makes without hitting $5,000 during the other weeks she elects to work. How could her apartment be so ghetto if she's making all that cheddar?
    The thing about Mexico that some of us forget is that there's.

    A) Pretty much zero social safety net.

    And.

    B) If a girl turns to SW, there's a better than even money chance that they're supporting kids, probably parents / grandparents, possibly siblings, and nieces / nephews.

    If they're sensible, they're saving their shekels too, with an eye to when they just can't do SW anymore, whether because their looks have gone and / or either their physical or mental health can't take it anymore. I've met more than one that planned to open a business in their hometown at some point. Yes, US $50 k a year can make a nice life in Mexico, but a couple years at that kind of money can set up a person for life if they're resourceful.

  3. #16009

    One more trip

    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing24  [View Original Post]
    First time doing it but I sent a HK girl $100 via Western Union a couple days ago. She hit me up with the "sick daughter" schtick. Could have been true or maybe she just wanted some money to party. Either way we have had a pretty good rapport going and she provides GFE for me, except for intercourse which has always been covered. Anyway, we had already agreed to meet up on Sunday so she said if I did her the favor of sending her the money so she could take her daughter to the doctor I wouldn't have to pay for our next session and she would give me extra time as well. Since we've had a good thing going I said what the hell and sent it to her. It did cross my mind that she wouldn't come through on her promises but I sent it anyways.

    Sunday she responded to my text for our session right away and said she would be waiting for me. We met up and to my surprise this time treated me to BBFSCIP. The crazy part was I didn't even realize she inserted me bareback until a couple minutes in LOL. Everything just went by so quickly and we started going at it immediately, lost track of everything caught up in the moment. Since she gave me the full GFE treatment I felt bad not giving her at least a tip so I gave her $20 and she was trying to refuse it saying it was ok and that we already had an agreement on the payment. I told her it was fine and to take it so she can buy herself something for dinner and she reluctantly took it.

    Afterwards I was in the bathroom and I heard a couple guys talking about a foam show going on in the little club Miami area where there was a naked guy eating out some girl. Figured I would take a look and have a few laughs. Sure enough the guy was on the stage with two girls actually and they were all fully naked. Didn't think they would allow that in there but the staff didn't seem to give a damn. One of the girls was jerking him off wanting him to get hard so he could bang the other girl and everyone was yelling. I guess he got a case of performance anxiety and he could not rise to the occasion. He still seemed to be having a blast though. I made sure to remember what these girls looked like because they seemed like a wild pair. Later on I talked to the better looking one and treated her to a ficha where she let me get her with some good FIV action and she wanted me to take her upstairs. I asked if she provided BBBJ and she said she would for $120. Thought about it for a minute but ended up passing..
    I am in the area for a few more days and might be interested in making one more trip before heading back home, if you would like to do a little meetup trip shoot me a message and maybe we can link up for a few drinks and laughs.

  4. #16008
    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMexicanas  [View Original Post]
    That's a lot of speculation. Bottom line, if she made as much as you claim hot Hong Kong chicas make, she wouldn't live in such a place.
    Met a guy on the trolley on the way back to the airport from San Ysido who lives on la Zona with his GF (real GF not a working girl) and pays $350/ mo. For 3/2 apartment. He laments is not in a good area surrounded by "all the working girl houses" but does what he does to survive versus being homeless in San Diego. His GF found it. He goes to work daily in San Diego crossing the border. Kicking myself in the ass for not buying a home in San Diego in 1999 for low $200 K.

  5. #16007
    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing24  [View Original Post]
    First time doing it but I sent a HK girl $100 via Western Union a couple days ago. She hit me up with the "sick daughter" schtick. Could have been true or maybe she just wanted some money to party. Either way we have had a pretty good rapport going and she provides GFE for me, except for intercourse which has always been covered. Anyway, we had already agreed to meet up on Sunday so she said if I did her the favor of sending her the money so she could take her daughter to the doctor I wouldn't have to pay for our next session and she would give me extra time as well. Since we've had a good thing going I said what the hell and sent it to her. It did cross my mind that she wouldn't come through on her promises but I sent it anyways.

    Sunday she responded to my text for our session right away and said she would be waiting for me. We met up and to my surprise this time treated me to BBFSCIP. The crazy part was I didn't even realize she inserted me bareback until a couple minutes in LOL. Everything just went by so quickly and we started going at it immediately, lost track of everything caught up in the moment. Since she gave me the full GFE treatment I felt bad not giving her at least a tip so I gave her $20 and she was trying to refuse it saying it was ok and that we already had an agreement on the payment. I told her it was fine and to take it so she can buy herself something for dinner and she reluctantly took it.
    Man you got lucky, my guess is more than half the time guys send money in advance they get ghosted when its time for the meetup.

  6. #16006

    To big

    Quote Originally Posted by BaxterSlade  [View Original Post]
    Yea the problem with places like HK they think they are to good to take your requests unless they happen to fall into there playlists. However go in those 2nd tier bars and a $1 will get your songs played right away.

    Pre pandemic the Gold Palace DJ would remember all our favorites and just start playing them as soon as we walked in the door.
    I often think of some of the bigger bars in Tijuana like the big casinos in Vegas. The part in the movie "Casino" at the end when he talks about the corporations taking over and the casino not remembering what you drink anymore and taking a week to get room service. It's hard not to take some personal blame for what it has become because a lot of it has to do with all the info on the internet and we all have contributed to that.

    I was actually eating a terrible meal at Azul a few weeks ago and was watching who was going in and out of Gold Palace. Didn't seem to bad but have never bothered trying the place. I really try to avoid the alley.

  7. #16005
    First time doing it but I sent a HK girl $100 via Western Union a couple days ago. She hit me up with the "sick daughter" schtick. Could have been true or maybe she just wanted some money to party. Either way we have had a pretty good rapport going and she provides GFE for me, except for intercourse which has always been covered. Anyway, we had already agreed to meet up on Sunday so she said if I did her the favor of sending her the money so she could take her daughter to the doctor I wouldn't have to pay for our next session and she would give me extra time as well. Since we've had a good thing going I said what the hell and sent it to her. It did cross my mind that she wouldn't come through on her promises but I sent it anyways.

    Sunday she responded to my text for our session right away and said she would be waiting for me. We met up and to my surprise this time treated me to BBFSCIP. The crazy part was I didn't even realize she inserted me bareback until a couple minutes in LOL. Everything just went by so quickly and we started going at it immediately, lost track of everything caught up in the moment. Since she gave me the full GFE treatment I felt bad not giving her at least a tip so I gave her $20 and she was trying to refuse it saying it was ok and that we already had an agreement on the payment. I told her it was fine and to take it so she can buy herself something for dinner and she reluctantly took it.

    Afterwards I was in the bathroom and I heard a couple guys talking about a foam show going on in the little club Miami area where there was a naked guy eating out some girl. Figured I would take a look and have a few laughs. Sure enough the guy was on the stage with two girls actually and they were all fully naked. Didn't think they would allow that in there but the staff didn't seem to give a damn. One of the girls was jerking him off wanting him to get hard so he could bang the other girl and everyone was yelling. I guess he got a case of performance anxiety and he could not rise to the occasion. He still seemed to be having a blast though. I made sure to remember what these girls looked like because they seemed like a wild pair. Later on I talked to the better looking one and treated her to a ficha where she let me get her with some good FIV action and she wanted me to take her upstairs. I asked if she provided BBBJ and she said she would for $120. Thought about it for a minute but ended up passing.

    Visited Chicago and they surprisingly had a decent selection. Also passed by Adelitas and a college aged girl caught my attention but some guy was buying her a seemingly endless amount of fichas. He must have spent a couple hundred bucks on drinks alone the whole time I was there. Decided to call it a night with a little extra money in my pocket. Might come back Tuesday for another visit to the zona.

    Typed this all up waiting in line in my car at the border. App said wait would be a little over 2 hours but only took 70 minutes.

  8. #16004
    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    She said the apt costs $300 for 3-4 weeks. It's pretty close to HK so you can't really expect much in terms of apartment quality (anything in zona norte is pretty ghetto). I'm betting she got it mostly for proximity and convenience to get to the club. It had a decent bathroom, but it literally is just a bathroom with a bedroom and no A / see and a ghetto small flat screen tv.

    Kinda feel bad that that's where she lives for her 1 month shifts when she has to leave her family to be here.

    As someone once said on this forum. The more you peel back an learn about these HK chicas, the uglier / more painful it gets. Their lives are not pretty. Maybe all her money goes to supporting her 2 kids and parents.
    Also been invited to a bar girls apartment near the ZN that didn't have AC. I got her a portable unit since it made life a little easier for me when I'the visit. Also got her a mini fridge as she was trying to make me frijole tacos from her small kitchen and would always have to run to the market for refrigerated items.

    I've also been to the rancho and met family members. It is a normal way of life for them even though to American standards it is roughing it at best. I don't think they realize their living standards until the internet, movies, etc. Where it shows the upper end of American society in a large house, white picket fence, and other modern conveniences we've come to take for granted.

    Most of the places these chicas live are probably small towns outside of the large city centers. Most probably have issues with water and electricity not being consistently delivered. Also not sure how much support they receive for the kids from the fathers of their children. I applaud them for trying to support themselves and their families the best way that they can.

    Best advice for you if you decide to take things further is to know you'll be on the hook for support as Riky posted. If she decides to walk away from the bar, then know they will find ways to support themselves if you are not able to provide them stability and security. Hope you both have genuine intentions and don't play games with one another as life is short and time is more valuable than any amount of money.

  9. #16003
    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    She said the apt costs $300 for 3-4 weeks. It's pretty close to HK so you can't really expect much in terms of apartment quality (anything in zona norte is pretty ghetto). I'm betting she got it mostly for proximity and convenience to get to the club. It had a decent bathroom, but it literally is just a bathroom with a bedroom and no A / see and a ghetto small flat screen TV.

    Kinda feel bad that that's where she lives for her 1 month shifts when she has to leave her family to be here.

    As someone once said on this forum. The more you peel back an learn about these HK chicas, the uglier / more painful it gets. Their lives are not pretty. Maybe all her money goes to supporting her 2 kids and parents.
    That's a lot of speculation. Bottom line, if she made as much as you claim hot Hong Kong chicas make, she wouldn't live in such a place.

  10. #16002
    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMexicanas  [View Original Post]
    How is that possible? You previously argued that hot Hong Kong chicas make $5,000 some weeks. Let's be conservative and say she makes that 12 out of 52 weeks. That's $60,000 just those weeks alone on top of what she makes without hitting $5,000 during the other weeks she elects to work. How could her apartment be so ghetto if she's making all that cheddar?
    She said the apt costs $300 for 3-4 weeks. It's pretty close to HK so you can't really expect much in terms of apartment quality (anything in zona norte is pretty ghetto). I'm betting she got it mostly for proximity and convenience to get to the club. It had a decent bathroom, but it literally is just a bathroom with a bedroom and no A / see and a ghetto small flat screen tv.

    Kinda feel bad that that's where she lives for her 1 month shifts when she has to leave her family to be here.

    As someone once said on this forum. The more you peel back an learn about these HK chicas, the uglier / more painful it gets. Their lives are not pretty. Maybe all her money goes to supporting her 2 kids and parents.

  11. #16001
    Couple things I have learned from my experiences and will reply to your comments.

    1. Every good / bad girl will let me see their tits. Some just remove the cloths a bit. Some super freaks take their top off for all to see and proceed to grind like no tomorrow. That latter one is rare but they are there. They usually are occupied. The more eager they are to show their tits the better sign of fun times ahead. Understand some girls will just give a peak but if they smiling while they do it that is good.

    2. It is all about growing our monger skills. Do not get in our feelings. Take in the moment and learn. Maybe I am just a super monger but I am getting good at this and I think it is because I do not get into my feelings when things go south.

    3. On the girls asking more. I approached a lot of girls a few nights ago. Only one asked more than 100 and when I called her on it she immediately and happily went down to 100. Must be happy because I been talking with her every day since. Usually I get up an walk away if a girl asks for 120-150. Got my reasons. Even if I get the sense the girl will take less than 100 I just give her the 100 but ask for specific services before going up. I let my Monger Force guess what services she will do. I do not have specific fetishes. My most regular wingman on the other hand is a Anal and Ganja Hunter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slicknaz  [View Original Post]
    I know what you mean about some of these things and I am familiar with a few of them also. I was in HK last night I really liked the way one of the chicas moved while on the dance floor so I asked her to come sit with me for drink and some conversation. When she got her drink she did a bit off dancing for me and I gave her a few tips, but never did she once grind on me like you mentioned and when I tried to get her to removed her top for me at the table she wouldn't do it. To me this was an immediate sign of "danger" so I just finished my drink with her and let her move on. I later found another one that caught my eye and did the same with her. This one did stroke me a little bit but mentioned a few things that should have been warning signs that either I missed or chose to overlook. Long story short I took her up and it was one of the worst experiences yet. Although she was hot she said she did not do oral and only offer a HJ and what should have been the biggest tell of them all was as soon as we arrived at my room she asked for money up front and immediately set a timer on her phone. I need to do better at screening / filtering because I noticed a few of the chicas last night were asking higher and higher prices for their time and if that is going to be the case going forward I don't want to making bad selections if you know what I mean.

  12. #16000

    Filters

    Quote Originally Posted by Hadez  [View Original Post]
    My filters have multiple levels. There is an appearance filter we all do. We each have our own first impression filters.

    Next I look for attitude. Is she actively selling her wares like a good customer service rep or does she have her head buried in her phone for 20 minutes or more. How does she react when I give her a dollar. How do she react when I offer her a drink. When we sit down how aggressive is she on selling the sex. Does she sit on my lap and start giving me kisses. Does she take her top off and start grinding my dick like sex with me would be the answer to all of her problems.

    Next I ask questions during the drink. I push the boundaries of what I can physically do. It is not just what she will allow but how she responds.

    My questions usually start with name, where she from and hold old. Basically the first part of the conversation is my practicing my Spanish while I test her physical boundaries. Then I suggest people start asking the questions important to them about service. Each person is different. Ask the questions important to you.

    Does she like oral sex.

    Does she like to be spanked.

    Does she like anal.

    Does she like to have sex with other girls.

    You can write down these questions. None of them are mine. I suggest you find your own. What is important to you. Do not just see what she says in response but watch how she responds.

    Usually before a girl is done with her first drink I know if we going to have fun or not. I have not actually done the numbers but at this point I think I am about 90% likely to find a good time upstairs. Problem is sometimes I want a girl so badly I let some things go. Even the average experience upstairs is good as I am not usually looking for something specific like some guys. If I need something specific I have regulars I can usually find to meet those needs.
    I know what you mean about some of these things and I am familiar with a few of them also. I was in HK last night I really liked the way one of the chicas moved while on the dance floor so I asked her to come sit with me for drink and some conversation. When she got her drink she did a bit off dancing for me and I gave her a few tips, but never did she once grind on me like you mentioned and when I tried to get her to removed her top for me at the table she wouldn't do it. To me this was an immediate sign of "danger" so I just finished my drink with her and let her move on. I later found another one that caught my eye and did the same with her. This one did stroke me a little bit but mentioned a few things that should have been warning signs that either I missed or chose to overlook. Long story short I took her up and it was one of the worst experiences yet. Although she was hot she said she did not do oral and only offer a HJ and what should have been the biggest tell of them all was as soon as we arrived at my room she asked for money up front and immediately set a timer on her phone. I need to do better at screening / filtering because I noticed a few of the chicas last night were asking higher and higher prices for their time and if that is going to be the case going forward I don't want to making bad selections if you know what I mean.

  13. #15999
    Quote Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123  [View Original Post]
    Her apartment was pretty damn ghetto though.
    How is that possible? You previously argued that hot Hong Kong chicas make $5,000 some weeks. Let's be conservative and say she makes that 12 out of 52 weeks. That's $60,000 just those weeks alone on top of what she makes without hitting $5,000 during the other weeks she elects to work. How could her apartment be so ghetto if she's making all that cheddar?

  14. #15998
    Quote Originally Posted by BigMagick  [View Original Post]
    The truth right here. Stripper or not relationships usually turn sour one way or the other. And for over a year girls have been trying to quote 150 $. They always tell the staff trains them to say that and these dumb broads do it. Some other poster mentioned thos theory and I think hes right.

    They tel the girls to quote high so the dudes will arriba less and ficha more because that's where HK really makes their money. Sounds like a solid theory to me. I suppose they could attract more talent as wel by advertising that guys will pay 15 $ or maybe even more for sex.
    One of the girls I met said they only get $2 per drink ticket and she was totally oblivious to how much my drink or her drink cost. She just said the guy pays the bill and she just makes sure to tuck the drink ticket in her purse. She did say a lady that works for the club told her she had too many Arribas and not enough drinks. So I'm guessing their overhead isn't paid from just the short time room and they would prefer drink sales as it is faster money for them to turn. Why have a monger pay the bar girl $80-$100 when it could be used for higher rate of return on drink sales? Business is business and they have to make sure to cover their overhead. I am sure if it is an all cash business, then ripe for opportunity to launder money for other illegal activities.

    On another note, I don't see the heartache over the costs of bar girls. Probably 10-15 years ago you'the pay $60-$80. Almost a decade later it is $80-$100. I don't see it being as bad a value compared to other international destinations. The only thing off putting that others have mentioned are door knocks, which I never experienced, but the hobby is very YMMV. Any sex worker with half a brain is going to try and get as much money in the least amount of time possible. I've heard stories where one bar girl said a guy was taking a shower before the activities started and he busted just by rubbing junior on her butt. She said she cleaned up, dried off, took the money and it was the fastest $100 she ever made. Enjoy it for what it is P4P. Have fun and stay safe!

  15. #15997
    Quote Originally Posted by Gregyyr  [View Original Post]
    I asked a gal I was with (Grace from Mexico City) how much it would be for an hour and she quoted $150. Which didn't sound too bad. Anyone else get quotes for an hour like that with HK girls?

    -G.
    ON Tuesday night I got an hour for $100. She actually blew me without a condom for over a half hour straight before I opened up a condom. We did not discuss time in the club. I just knew it was going to be good during the one ficha so didn't ask.

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