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12-14-21 01:03 #14639
Posts: 6526Even top tiered HK girls take 1,000 pesos
Urgikhan did a good job getting his deals.
Even top tiered HK girls would take 1000, If they think they cannot pry more out of you. I have done many top HK girls near that figure.
Perhaps you should plead poverty, "mi tengo poco dinero. Mil para me bebe, por favor, con propina."
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12-13-21 18:53 #14638
Posts: 17Originally Posted by Urfikhan [View Original Post]
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12-13-21 15:22 #14637
Posts: 1088Miscommunication
Originally Posted by KoolBeans [View Original Post]
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12-13-21 07:57 #14636
Posts: 603Being blacklisted by Streetgirls in alley, etc
Originally Posted by Urfikhan [View Original Post]
I used to enjoy the just the practice negotiation in the past.
Now, to avoid blacklisting my new policy is to not ask them their price unless I am willing to immediately give them my business if the price is reasonable.
I too am cheap and agree with stick to your guns on pricing, etc. Prices vary a lot among the gals. There are plenty who will say yes to a reasonable price. Especially on Ave Constitution.
Also, beautiful face usually has a negative correlation with service.
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12-13-21 03:58 #14635
Posts: 65269 Lessons Learned from This Board
Wow,
Urgikhan held his line and got a very good deal. Congrats. The bros should keep rejecting ridiculous high prices and bad attitudes, they will find the right girls with sweet sessions. That should also teach the rest of them to lower their expectations and adjust their attitudes or go home hungry.
To hat sounds harsh but I use the negotiations to feel the girls' attitudes. If they treat me with nice, warm, friendly attitude and hot passion in bed, I usually give them propinas way higher than they ask for. You don't want to screw cold, angry, biitchy girls. Would be like wrestling a crocodile.
BTW what's her name? Will be very nice to this good girl.
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12-13-21 03:56 #14634
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by Urfikhan [View Original Post]
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12-13-21 00:36 #14633
Posts: 819 Lessons Learned from This Board
Many sayings from Capt Solo and other senior members on this board have helped me a lot on my mongering trips:
1) Crossing into Mexico, why go through the foreigner line? I walk in the Mexican line and never get questioned. Of course I am not a gringo (have been mistaken for Italian).
2) Cultivate relationships with street girls and you will get good service at decent price.
3) If you go to the clubs, stick to your guns on pricing and sooner or later someone will take it. This is especially true on Mon-Thu.
4) In clubs, watch out for attitude and look for chemistry. I don't drink and don't believe in throwing away money on $9 fichas (2 fichas = 1 SG session!) So the chemistry part can be hard for me.
I was there Tuesday last week and had a room at Cascadas, but the street scene is just becoming ridiculous, with SGs asking for 800 pesos for 20 minute session. I think I have been balcklisted by gals ob both sides of the Alley in the area near HK. This is true even for gals on Constitucion to visit Cascadas. My regulars were either without their IDs or couldn't make it, Queens Escort service was non-responsive, and here I am standing with my the! Ck in my hand. Needed to get back to San Diego. I haven't been to HK or Las Chavelas since they merged, so I thought "things are miserable, what else can go wrong let me go in and check this out". I recalled 2 more principles from past posts.
5) 1,000 pesos + tip is a good local rate from pre-covid days. Captain Solo used to preach that a lot.
6) Las Chavelas is is where girls are sent off from HK (to take a break), and girls there more amenable to negotiating.
As I was walking around Las Chavelas, a nice sexy girl with full body and large assets (rank her a 7) comes by and starts rubbing her body against me asking for arriba for $100 for 30 minutes. I counter with 1,000 pesos. She haggles a little and says 1500 and I counter with 1,000+tip and ask for 45 minutes, and she walks away. I do a round, and as I head for the front door to exit she comes running and grabs my hand and says let's go!!
I tip the gown guy 10 pesos and he grumbles a bit -- this $1 tipping and $10 fichas are a little beyond my comprehension. I am cheap!
7) Never pay in advance -- you lose control -- service can go down once the chica has the money and you have no leverage.
In the room, she asked for the money upfront -- she has probably figured I am such a cheap guy I may not honor the 1,000 pesos offer. I show her the money -- and put it in a place where she can see it and tell her depending on her service this will go up. She say don't ever mention this rate to anyone at HK as everyone is being pressured to get $100.
We DFK, she is a masseuse back home and offers a massage. Starting from my back and then turns me around and massages my stomach and legs. Plays with my the! K and offers a BBBJ as an add-on for $25. I counter with $10 and we haggle a bit. I feel her service is pretty good so far, and I won't need any extra assistance so go for the covered BJ (which turned out to be pretty good), so I decline.
8) Always think with the big head. Don't let the little head prevail when it comes to $$.
We have a brief discussion about thinking with the big head vs little head, and we laugh about it. We then try a couple of positions, and I climax with she riding me cowgirl.
We then chat, more kissing and then I help her get off by fingering and kissing her. Throughout her attitude was very warm, sensible and chatty. She alternates between Tijuana and Sinaloa for 2 week periods. I got her number and will check her out after Jan 6 when she is back, lets see if the 1,000 peso price holds! I give her 1,000 + $10 tip + a nice little makeup kit (I carry some gifts with me), and she seems pleased.
Meanwhile, it is back to SGs and Queens -- Queens at 1500 with GFE sounds like a good deal right now. Maybe try this approach again next week!
9) As bad as things may look, we control the $$. Right now economically things are pretty tight and I see lesser gringos visiting, whereas Chicas are abundant. New variant of covid will scare people even more and things will become tighter. Stick to your guns and you will come across someone who hasn't done much business and will bite on a reasonable, or even a little below par offer.
Many thanks to the gurus who post here, the above principles were a great help!
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12-13-21 00:20 #14632
Posts: 17Originally Posted by LuvMexicanas [View Original Post]
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12-12-21 23:56 #14631
Posts: 749Originally Posted by KoolBeans [View Original Post]
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12-12-21 20:04 #14630
Posts: 1938Originally Posted by Federico69 [View Original Post]
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12-12-21 20:01 #14629
Posts: 558Originally Posted by ClownDays [View Original Post]
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12-12-21 19:56 #14628
Posts: 558Originally Posted by Sol12 [View Original Post]
I think I tried numerous psychological tests to figure out what her true intentions are and I am getting a better grasp of her thinking. What a wild ride, but fun and interesting. I think she has been in many toxic and bad relationships where she lost faith in men and asked me if I was a good man to which I replied yes. Everyone has a different interpretation of what a good man is and I feel I am genuine and honest in regards to whatever she asks me. Some of her friends tell her she is only with the gringo for the money. Big trip coming up for NYE and hopefully she can transfer schools or I might have to visit Sinaloa.
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12-12-21 19:36 #14627
Posts: 749Originally Posted by KoolBeans [View Original Post]
You would've had to pay for the hotel, rental car regardless. Paying for Flights, entertainment, water parks etc are expected when you invite a woman to travel with you. I thought she charged you $1 k / night on top of all expenses paid for the vacation.
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12-12-21 18:51 #14626
Posts: 157Originally Posted by KoolBeans [View Original Post]
As long as you're not covering a day rate, there's a clear expectation that you expect to get laid, and you've taken an HK girl out for a couple of days to Rosarito or Ensenada and see what she's like on a mini-vacation, it's usually a pretty good deal. The ones that are going to be a gigantic money drain and a pain in the ass will show you who they are right away.
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12-12-21 17:41 #14625
Posts: 17Originally Posted by LuvMexicanas [View Original Post]
I am a relative noob, just trying to figure out some tactics to negotiate lower rates for longer sessions with the girls. Searched the forum, didn't find any old threads so I asked the question. Relax.