Hong Kong Club Reports

[Goyo61]

You do know your shit Slammer. I keep learning more and more about the place. I was talking to a guy who works there last Sunday and he also said the same about the shift hours. He also said some girls go upstairs a couple times and made good money, they don't want to stay their whole shift and want to get out of there. But HK requires them to work their 9 hour shift. He said the girls have tried to bribe him with sex. But that could backfire so he's smart and doesn't take the bribe.

Will have to do a little testing of the money to see if they scam a bit as well. I was little frustrated that a girl who said she would get nude in the lap dance room, but did not and the waiter says I can get you girl who will. He got a girl. But. She also didn't want to take off her panties and I think he just wanted to sell the $21 lap dance.

G.

You're way off. The hottest 5% go up 3-5 times a shift. The average puta goes up once, maybe twice a shift. The uglier ones go up 2-3 times a week. HK shifts are 8 hours Sunday-Wed and 9 hours on Thurs-Sat. Not many work a 12 hour shift unless they're desperate for money. And they're desperate because they're not being taken up, not because they're going up 6-8 times a day making $600+.

[SenorTJ]

You can't and you didn't. There's no way you can sit in HK and closely monitor and keep track of what every girl is doing inside HK. There is no one spot you can sit in HK where you can observe what is going on in the main area, alley area, upstairs, front door, alley door, third floor, etc. If what you are saying is true, there would be a log jam of putas with mongers waiting several minutes in line at the exits. Stating that some putas only have 10 minute breaks between their arriba sessions is possibly the most ridiculous thing that's ever been stated on this forum, and I don't say that lightly. That would be around 15 arribas on a weekend. And you say that this occurs regularly. I'd say no chica has ever gone arriba more than 10 times in one normal shift in the entire history of HK.

How about Paula? She's a pro closer. No fichas. Just stands near the main stage and entices and snares noobs, never on her phone. She does a ton of arribas.

Honed her craft at AB. Heard her kid has fetal alcohol syndrome, so she's there on a mission. Watch her, she's impressive. Up and down, nonstop.

[ClamSlammer]

I started to transfer money to her each time she had "some difficulty" even made deposits direct to her mom. I don't feel her completely honest..it gives me the impression that she only looks for me when she needs money.

Look at the parts of your post I quoted above. That says it all. I'd bet she never really had any type of real "difficulty" when asking for money. She just fabricated some extenuating circumstances in order to extract some extra cash from you to blow on shopping and going out. That being said, you're going to go with your heart and not your brain so you will not listen to any advice on here. Okay. But do this. If you do retire her, insist that she change her phone number and erase / block all her monger friends from her Facebook account. It would be interesting to see hear about her reaction.

...see how she feels about you ASAP before you're too deep in the rabbit hole.

Unfortunately, that's easier said than done. In a smitten monger's mind, a lying puta is more than capable of convincing him that she truly loves him and not his wallet.

I try to promote HK as often as I can in US to others to check out. I tell them it's safe, great service and management. Just because that's what I have experienced myself.

Every time I order a drink I ask for the change in $1 bills. I have never been shorted once.

Goyo.

Goyo, I agree with most of what you say in your post. But there's one area where you are dead wrong. HK doesn't give a shit about offering "great service. " Management allows meseros to constantly rip-off their customers as long as it results in higher profits. Okay so you've been there a few times and paid for drinks with dollars and never been ripped off. So you think that HK doesn't rip off customers, because if they did then that wouldn't be "great service," would it? Of course not. So consider these regular scams that management permits meseros perpetrate on their customers:

1. Short-change scam.

2. Not coming back with your change scam.

3. Adding item you didn't order scam.

4. Premature ficha clearing scam.

5. Puta-Mesero tandem ficha scam.

6. Exchange rate scam.

7. Bucket of fichas to go arriba scam.

Take note. When you pay in dollars, you are unlikely to be short-changed because HK's prices are based on dollars. The math is too easy. You buy two beers for $8, pay with a $20 and your change is $12. First grade math even a stumbling drunk can perform. You want to know how the real HK works? Sit with a puta and order a beer and a ficha. And pay in pesos. Your chances of getting short-changed just increased exponentially. You see, meseros are pretty dumb in most respects except when it comes to scamming, where they are quite proficient. So pay for the beer and ficha in pesos. The dollar cost is $13. Peso cost is $234. Pay with pesos and you'll get short changed. It's almost a guarantee. You see, meseros know that converting $13 dls to pesos in your head can be somewhat challenging. Then when they return with your change, you will see that there will be a lot of coins. The meseros are relying on the monger not knowing exactly how much the change should be, and also not count out all the coins while sitting with the puta because they might make themselves look cheap. So in most instances the monger just grabs the coins without counting them and then leaves some coins as a tip. Mongers don't realize that they've been shorted $8-$15 pesos which is the norm. This is the kind of stuff you learn once your monger status transforms from novice to master.

[LocalguyTJ]

You got a really good point, but most girls won't do service for under 80 bucks.

I don't work for the establishment, I actually found out about this forum because of another client, just as me. Locals receive the same price as everyone, thought he treatment tends to be a bit different, I guess it's because of the language barrier primarily. One of the things I found out was that if I speak a little bit English (I have a really good accent), most girls would think I was American and I had every intention of paying top dollar, but as I am not cheap, I am not in the best interest to be a big spender either, if I get a full $100 price, I would generally ask what I am getting in return, if I don't feel convinced I may move on, and / or start talking Spanish, it's a very basic thing, speak their own language, and I don't mean this verbatim, more in the figurative speech, if you put money aside, which I don't think 20 dollar should be a barrier for anyone to have a fucking awesome laid at HK, you can always combine pleasure and business, isn't that what we're here for?

I guess, what I am saying is $20 dollar really stopping most of you from getting the quality service you are self righteously claiming for?

Want to beat the system? You can. Just not exactly the way most of you like.

Sure, if a girl can take up 3 guys in that night at 100 then they made 300 bucks for that night at least. Although, I don't think business is that good. If your a manager at HK and have real stats then I'm open to being wrong. Whenever I'm at HK I pay attention to the amount of business going on because I'm honestly curious too about how much a chica is taking in. From my POV. Unless the chica is really hot I don't see that often. 210 bucks from 3 $70 patron's is better than 0 or 100 bucks that night.

[ClamSlammer]

I can second this. I spent a few hours in the club another night people watching and observed that the hot ones only spend 10 or 29 minutes in the club between going upstairs with man.

You can't and you didn't. There's no way you can sit in HK and closely monitor and keep track of what every girl is doing inside HK. There is no one spot you can sit in HK where you can observe what is going on in the main area, alley area, upstairs, front door, alley door, third floor, etc. If what you are saying is true, there would be a log jam of putas with mongers waiting several minutes in line at the exits. Stating that some putas only have 10 minute breaks between their arriba sessions is possibly the most ridiculous thing that's ever been stated on this forum, and I don't say that lightly. That would be around 15 arribas on a weekend. And you say that this occurs regularly. I'd say no chica has ever gone arriba more than 10 times in one normal shift in the entire history of HK.

[LocalguyTJ]

You read it all wrong, speak for yourself when it comes to being shortsighted.

Although I have no particular need to prove you wrong. Yes, I am pretty new to the boards, but not a stranger to my own city, yes, I know the owner, yes I know more than one manager, I used to have waiters close to where I live, but that's far beside the point.

I see you so called "contribution" is solely based on bitching about a few bucks, but yeah to each his own, like I said I've lived here all my life, even lived at the zona at some point in life.

To me, and to everybody else who's not a Tijuana native, you are just a another guy, like thousands others contributing to the local economy, which is great don't get me wrong, but being a "board expert" amounts to the same as donkey shit.

And yes, most of the girls I pick at HK are hot, I guess that's the only ones most guys consider even talking to, and I am 100% positive on this, their average is 3-5 a night.

Also, yes, costumers do care about a classy joint, if not you would be hanging at the other dead beat clubs, which of course sell beers for 15 pesos, they also have chicks who will do "cuartos" or rooms in English, (that's the actual words they use for doing service), so you can keep calling them "arribas", this way HK girls upfront you are not from around these parts. It's quite simple if anyone didn't care about class, they wouldn't be asking for costumer care, which most of you frequently complain about.

I'm pretty sure if you knew the owner and management, they have a pretty solid reputation at being #1 in Latin america, and yes, they care about it. By the way, did you heard about that girl that was doing services for $20? And how she was set as an example when she got fired?

And no, I do not have to consider Mexico's economy, not whatsoever, each one of us has decided to step in a world were girls have their own saying about who they decide to do service, and at what price, clearly you should know by now the difference between a SG and a BG. The more I hear you guys cry about measly $20, the more I understand why you guys keep getting a shitty laid, this ain't no sobrerruedas, respect the worker and be clear in a respectful manner as to what you require as a costumer and people will start turning heads, might you stop thinking in such self absorbed manner and it will get you places, I guess no one goes to your workplaces and tell you they're not paying the price you're asking because you don't deserve it, it's simple, give sympathy, you get sympathy. It's worked charms for me.

You claim, and act this is a 3rd world working girl house. Then don't complain about you are getting, some make the most of it, I'm one of them.

From my end I will continue paying $100 to these beautiful ladies,#1 because even as a Mexican I can afford it, #2 I'm not cheap, #3 I don't have to beg or even ask for GFE, #4 I worked for costumer care in my family business, now administer part of the company, so I know better than to pester workers as a client, specially in restaurants. Let alone a person who is handling my dick.

LOL. You don't have the slightest clue on how things work in HK or Tijuana in general. You're obviously a newbie on these Tijuana puta boards because you don't realize I'm by far the #1 contributor of inside information about HK. Do you know the managers of HK? I bet not. Do you know the owner? I bet not. Do you know the cartel boss "P. A. " out of Aguascalientes that the HK family is closely associated with? I bet not. I have more knowledge of HK in a toenail clipping than you'll ever know. My friends own half the city.

And thanks for proving my point. Your American friends in Cali don't have a clue on Tijuana economics, come down, pay high prices then return to Cali with a smile. That proves my point. They don't know any better..

[ScottHall]

I meet this beautiful young girl at HK 1 year ago, each of my visits I went direct to her, after a few encounters she invited me to visit her at her local town, which I did, many times, she introduced me to her children and family, I started to transfer money to her each time she had "some difficulty" even made deposits direct to her mom. Some king of a sugar daddy, but I must say I'm not an old guy at all (actually I have a pretty good luck with girls) . We became some kind of friends with benefits, sometimes I see her in the club some times we go out in tij or her local town. Couple months ago I took her and her entire family (children, mother and brother) to a trip to the Mexican Mayan Caribbean, we spent 2 fabulous week there (of course I paid all, airfares, hotel, food and entertainment) , we are planning another trip to Europe early this coming year. Now she told me that she wants to quit working in HK and that she wants to be my GF. I think I kind of I love with her and her children,. And of course she's the one who came up with the idea of being a couple but for some reason, I don't feel her completely honest, we get along well but sometimes it gives me the impression that she only looks for me when she needs money. So I'm a little confused here. Sometimes I think, maybe she acts so because she understands I'm a little crazy about her and she has a sure thing with me, so she doesn't really needs to put effort in convincing me. But maybe she just doesn't feel the same way and she only sees me as her way out form the HK life. What you guys would do?

I don't know if this is a joke but if you're giving her money then it's not love or a relationship. Tell her you're broke and see if she still wants to be your girlfriend. A real relationship is when you don't have to spend a dime on her. She'll want to be with you because she actually likes you, not your money.

[LuvMexicanas]

I meet this beautiful young girl at HK 1 year ago, each of my visits I went direct to her, after a few encounters she invited me to visit her at her local town, which I did, many times, she introduced me to her children and family, I started to transfer money to her each time she had "some difficulty" even made deposits direct to her mom. Some king of a sugar daddy, but I must say I'm not an old guy at all (actually I have a pretty good luck with girls) . We became some kind of friends with benefits, sometimes I see her in the club some times we go out in tij or her local town. Couple months ago I took her and her entire family (children, mother and brother) to a trip to the Mexican Mayan Caribbean, we spent 2 fabulous week there (of course I paid all, airfares, hotel, food and entertainment) , we are planning another trip to Europe early this coming year. Now she told me that she wants to quit working in HK and that she wants to be my GF. I think I kind of I love with her and her children,. And of course she's the one who came up with the idea of being a couple but for some reason, I don't feel her completely honest, we get along well but sometimes it gives me the impression that she only looks for me when she needs money. So I'm a little confused here. Sometimes I think, maybe she acts so because she understands I'm a little crazy about her and she has a sure thing with me, so she doesn't really needs to put effort in convincing me. But maybe she just doesn't feel the same way and she only sees me as her way out form the HK life. What you guys would do?

You should turn the other direction and run. Most of us know how this will end and from one bro to another it will not be positive for you.

[ClamSlammer]

The girls do more than 3 a night at Hong Kong. They work long shifts, and are constantly going up with men. I'd bet many do 12 in a 12 hour shift. Most probably do six to 8. At least the ones who charge 80.

You're way off. The hottest 5% go up 3-5 times a shift. The average puta goes up once, maybe twice a shift. The uglier ones go up 2-3 times a week. HK shifts are 8 hours Sunday-Wed and 9 hours on Thurs-Sat. Not many work a 12 hour shift unless they're desperate for money. And they're desperate because they're not being taken up, not because they're going up 6-8 times a day making $600+.

[Goyo61]

Just to note. I do thank everyone for sharing their insights as it has helped a ton of us who are new to HK world. I can only speak from my. Say 20 times I have been down there in the last couple years and recently more often.

The girls on Sunday afternoons say $80 more than they do $100 when I ask them. Yes there are some spinners who are incredibly beautiful and ask for the $100. I bet on Friday / Saturday / Sunday nights the girls can ask for $100 easier than they can on a Sunday mid-day or morning etc. Or week day etc. Supply & Demand stuff. Often I do tip the girls another $20 if they asked $80 if she was good to be with etc. Or maybe they let me take their picture which is very kind of them considering. Also I don't offer $80. I ask them how much to fuck etc. And more often than not it's $80 during the afternoons when I go.

I try to promote HK as often as I can in US to others to check out. I tell them it's safe, great service and management. Just because that's what I have experienced myself.

Every time I order a drink I ask for the change in $1 bills. I have never been shorted once.

We in the US and also in Tijuana. Are Very fortunate to have HK so close and the management running it how they have.

Never have any of the girls I took to hotel tried to scam me. Most don't ask for money until we are done.

Sometimes I get a girl from the alley to screw. But then go dump a good amount of cash at HK for more fun with out taking another girl to hotel etc. Always want to support Hk as we shouldn't take this place for granted IMO.

Goyo.

LOL. You don't have the slightest clue on how things work in HK or Tijuana in general. You're obviously a newbie on these Tijuana puta boards because you don't realize I'm by far the #1 contributor of inside information about HK. Do you know the managers of HK? I bet not. Do you know the owner? I bet not. Do you know the cartel boss "P. A. " out of Aguascalientes that the HK family is closely associated with? I bet not. I have more knowledge of HK in a toenail clipping than you'll ever know. My friends own half the city.

And thanks for proving my point. Your American friends in Cali don't have a clue on Tijuana economics, come down, pay high prices then return to Cali with a smile. That proves my point. They don't know any better.

Again, LOL. Not that simple. They don't average 3 guys a night. Only the hottest ones do. The average puta fucks 1, 1. 5 guys a night. Only the extremely simple-minded can think that it's just a matter of choosing to fuck 3 guys or 4 guys for the same money. Of course they will choose 3 guys..

[Suzhilang]

The girls do more than 3 a night at Hong Kong. They work long shifts, and are constantly going up with men. I'd bet many do 12 in a 12 hour shift. Most probably do six to 8. At least the ones who charge 80.

I can second this. I spent a few hours in the club another night people watching and observed that the hot ones only spend 10 or 29 minutes in the club between going upstairs with man.

[Suzhilang]

I meet this beautiful young girl at HK 1 year ago, each of my visits I went direct to her, after a few encounters she invited me to visit her at her local town, which I did, many times, she introduced me to her children and family, I started to transfer money to her each time she had "some difficulty" even made deposits direct to her mom. Some king of a sugar daddy, but I must say I'm not an old guy at all (actually I have a pretty good luck with girls) . We became some kind of friends with benefits, sometimes I see her in the club some times we go out in tij or her local town. Couple months ago I took her and her entire family (children, mother and brother) to a trip to the Mexican Mayan Caribbean, we spent 2 fabulous week there (of course I paid all, airfares, hotel, food and entertainment) , we are planning another trip to Europe early this coming year. Now she told me that she wants to quit working in HK and that she wants to be my GF. I think I kind of I love with her and her children,. And of course she's the one who came up with the idea of being a couple but for some reason, I don't feel her completely honest, we get along well but sometimes it gives me the impression that she only looks for me when she needs money. So I'm a little confused here. Sometimes I think, maybe she acts so because she understands I'm a little crazy about her and she has a sure thing with me, so she doesn't really needs to put effort in convincing me. But maybe she just doesn't feel the same way and she only sees me as her way out form the HK life. What you guys would do?

You might need to elaborate a little bite more about your personal situation so that your fellow monger can opine in. However, The best advise you can get is to be realistic. You might have feeling with her, but feeling will eventually fade. If you find her having no reason to be with you except your money. Remember, if you end up marrying this chick, you are marrying her whole family including her kids and parent. Probably not worth the risk.

[Dcrist0527]

The girls do more than 3 a night at Hong Kong. They work long shifts, and are constantly going up with men. I'd bet many do 12 in a 12 hour shift. Most probably do six to 8. At least the ones who charge 80.

LMAO 12 in 12 hours? Seriously, your speculation does no one any favors. I can promise you, the average chica would be thrilled with 3 a night. They typically work 8 hours a night, 9 on the weekend, though there are other agreements. But 12 a night is just insane. If it happens, ever, that's certainly not even close to the norm.

[Asting]

I meet this beautiful young girl at HK 1 year ago, each of my visits I went direct to her, after a few encounters she invited me to visit her at her local town, which I did, many times, she introduced me to her children and family, I started to transfer money to her each time she had "some difficulty" even made deposits direct to her mom. Some king of a sugar daddy, but I must say I'm not an old guy at all (actually I have a pretty good luck with girls) . We became some kind of friends with benefits, sometimes I see her in the club some times we go out in tij or her local town. Couple months ago I took her and her entire family (children, mother and brother) to a trip to the Mexican Mayan Caribbean, we spent 2 fabulous week there (of course I paid all, airfares, hotel, food and entertainment) , we are planning another trip to Europe early this coming year. Now she told me that she wants to quit working in HK and that she wants to be my GF. I think I kind of I love with her and her children,. And of course she's the one who came up with the idea of being a couple but for some reason, I don't feel her completely honest, we get along well but sometimes it gives me the impression that she only looks for me when she needs money. So I'm a little confused here. Sometimes I think, maybe she acts so because she understands I'm a little crazy about her and she has a sure thing with me, so she doesn't really needs to put effort in convincing me. But maybe she just doesn't feel the same way and she only sees me as her way out form the HK life. What you guys would do?

LOL. Looking at your name handle cracks me up a bit.

Anyway, let her know straight up you love her and see how she feels about you ASAP before you're too deep in the rabbit hole.

If she feels the same way take her away from the bar life and support her. Your relationship is not going to work unless she's off from HK completely.

Good luck!

[Jackie888]

From my personal and very recent experience, only the newest girls stay firm at $100. Most girls including the hottest ones immediately drop their price to $80 when I burst out laughing at $100. About half have asked me to name my price when I tell them $80 are for tourists, and I am a weekly regular. Therefore in my opinion, actual HK pricing is 80% of the girls will go upstairs for $60-80 (1200-1800 p). The remaining 20% new girls will demand $100. This is effective Sunday. Thursdays only. I avoid the weekend sausage fest.

Guy, you need to practice on negotiation skills. It is a skill like any other that will deteriorate without practice.