Hong Kong Club Reports

[Urfikhan]

What about those guys offering a spot closer to the front of the line for $20? How much time would that shave down? I wouldn't mind spending $20 if it shaves hours in waiting.

I was returning Saturday around 5 PM, the line was 3.5 - 4 hours long.

Th Border Agents do check, and are well aware of the difference between a Sentri and Passport card. I tried sneaking with the passport card Saturday, and they sent me back. Another tactic is to time yourself to join a a moving line, pretending you have a Sentri and only let the border agent see your card -- they will assume you were already in the line and going through. DON'T let the other folks in the line see your passport card.

The only somewhat legit $20 scenarios is the guy has someone in the line already close to the front and they put you next to that person. I tried it once and it took me an hour to go through. Another time a guy had no one in the line and he just took me to the front of the line and tried to sneak me through, the Border agent and people in the line sent me back -- they guy had disappeared but then reappeared and put us back in the line a bit further, still without anyone in the line. Since then I have stopped paying folks and manage to get through on my own.

If the Omicron variant causes the border to close, it will be a blessing (shorter lines like pre-opening of the border, when only US citizens / residents were allowed to travel for "essential" reasons) -- but I think the economic pressures are such that they will keep the border open.

[BlackThought]

The line is very easily 4 plus hours right now. People are shopping for Christmas. They just let foreigners come into USA 3 weeks ago. Truthfully when planning to catch flight you need to allocate 6 hours of line time if you can't afford to cancel a flight. Because I've waited 4 hours a few times. And the line visually was half it was today for example.

What about those guys offering a spot closer to the front of the line for $20? How much time would that shave down? I wouldn't mind spending $20 if it shaves hours in waiting.

[Captain Solo]

Nothing,

You don't have pay anything to El Capitan.

My wingmen and I would just be delighted to meet a distinguished monger / poster like you.

[Sound7]

Welcome to secondary SENTRI. Warning and so forth. My personal experience when did not mark SENTRI car lanes correctly. Money maker for local. Wanted $20.00 for Lane change. Secondary took for ever. Warning and written consent decree.

I went through the SENTRI lane without a SENTRI card once. They sent me to secondary and gave me a lecture about how, if I did it again, they might impound my car and fine me USD $10,000.

[Dogers69]

Wow if that's the case, I lucked out. Cause the line spanned a few blocks at around 1130 AM. Maybe I should check out earlier my next visit as I have my flight departing San Diego is at 130 PM or get global entry.

The line is very easily 4 plus hours right now. People are shopping for Christmas. They just let foreigners come into USA 3 weeks ago. Truthfully when planning to catch flight you need to allocate 6 hours of line time if you can't afford to cancel a flight. Because I've waited 4 hours a few times. And the line visually was half it was today for example.

[Nothing24]

Nothing.

I was in HK Wednesday night the same time. Would have been fun to meet you.

I noticed business drop off as early as June this year when the chicas kept insisting $100 and Cascada was pushing the $30 room option with 2 drinks. Guys were not taking chicas to hotel as frequently as before. Most girls just hang out all night not bought drinks, not taken upstairs. It's sad but the girls are still trying to push prices higher, like $150 a session.

I have done quite a few girls with low local rates. I would steer the noobs to those girls and ask them to go with those rates. For noobs loaded with too much money, well, I would let them have the pleasure of spoiling their sweethearts hehe.

I might stop by this upcoming Wednesday night again, in case you're there, would love to say Hi and pay my respects to the captain haha.

[Sol12]

I think it is the intent of HK to use inflated chica and fucked up bullshit prices to keep the guys in the bars as long as possible so that the guys can spend their money on drinks instead of the girls. Guys usually come to HK with a limited wad of cash. If the guys go arriba, he's not going to have much left over for the thieving waiters. They are going to spend it on something (drinks) if they cannot afford a chica. The chicas are too proud but stupid to figure it out that they are actually losing out business to the bar, their real competitor. For HK management, drinks are the money maker. The girls are the bait. Waiters are convicts. And customers, the suckers, especially tourists.

Not sure what HK is supposed to do. Not make money? They are a business and do what they can to make the most profit. So yes just like any strip club in the US they use the girls to get clients in the door. This philosophy is used in many dance clubs to get girls in so guys will come. The girls can use whatever tactics they wish to make as much money as possible. Some are lazy and unmotivated while others just want to go upstairs and not drink. HK could care less what the girls charge except to use it as a selling point to other girls. Not many girls will fly to Tijuana for $50 sessions since other parts of Mexico would allow them to make more. So for the money that gets thrown around in HK they have a long list of girls that would love a chance to work in that place but they are the Chivas of the bars in Tijuana.

I would still like to see HK have a cover charge to keep out the cheap guys or if you are a VIP member you don't get charged. The money that has been lost due to COVID is still trying to be recovered and hopefully next year will be better.

The waiters take advantage of those that let themselves be taken advantage of. All prices are on the wall. If you go enough I highly recommend getting one waiter that you deal with and tip well.

[BlackThought]

I think it is the intent of HK to use inflated chica and fucked up bullshit prices to keep the guys in the bars as long as possible so that the guys can spend their money on drinks instead of the girls. Guys usually come to HK with a limited wad of cash. If the guys go arriba, he's not going to have much left over for the thieving waiters. They are going to spend it on something (drinks) if they cannot afford a chica. The chicas are too proud but stupid to figure it out that they are actually losing out business to the bar, their real competitor. For HK management, drinks are the money maker. The girls are the bait. Waiters are convicts. And customers, the suckers, especially tourists.

Unless the hot girls move from HK club to Adelitas or other clubs, HK club can probably continue with their shady tactics as it's practically a monopoly. You're right, the girl I TLN'd had to ask Management for permission to spend the rest of her shift in my room as they wanted her on the floor selling drinks or dancing on the pole.

I can't justify paying $30 for ST rooms, so I just book overnight which is a great value with the 70% off Mon and Tues. I booked the jacuzzi room for my next trip as the cost was $34.50/ night vs $23/ night for the standard room. I am planning to check out Adelitas next visit, are the arriba rates and room rates better than HK?

[BlackThought]

It can be difficult to process and remember that most of the people in line are Americans. It took me years to spend spend a minute to think about it. Basically once covid hit and the line looks like same people then you know most are Americans. Because Mexicans weren't allowed in. Or they are dual citizenship. You are supposed to stand in line at the back. Now, many days I waited 4 hours in line and saw couples beg to go through without sentri and they were permitted. Especially when 1 at least had sentri. On very rare occasions only once that I saw, they had a 3rd line for Americans. I do not think, that right now the policy is to let Americans cut the line. It was more likely the guy didn't take you as a daily visitor and just figured he would be nice.

Wow if that's the case, I lucked out. Cause the line spanned a few blocks at around 1130 AM. Maybe I should check out earlier my next visit as I have my flight departing San Diego is at 130 PM or get global entry.

[Captain Solo]

Most HK girls are not doing much business, fichas or arribas, hungry and desperate. They are working for HK for free.

The girls prefer to go to the hotel to make more money quickly in bed over the measly fichas in the bar, but HK would rather have them knock down 10 fichas an hour with some suckers and make $60 for the bar.

The bros can always use HK coupons to get free drinks, ogle hot girls all night for free, and pick up hot street girls for $20 session in Cascada's $6ST rooms. HK just hates this strategy.

[Jackie888]

Nothing.

I was in HK Wednesday night the same time. Would have been fun to meet you.

I noticed business drop off as early as June this year when the chicas kept insisting $100 and Cascada was pushing the $30 room option with 2 drinks. Guys were not taking chicas to hotel as frequently as before. Most girls just hang out all night not bought drinks, not taken upstairs. It's sad but the girls are still trying to push prices higher, like $150 a session.

I have done quite a few girls with low local rates. I would steer the noobs to those girls and ask them to go with those rates. For noobs loaded with too much money, well, I would let them have the pleasure of spoiling their sweethearts hehe.

I think it is the intent of HK to use inflated chica and fucked up bullshit prices to keep the guys in the bars as long as possible so that the guys can spend their money on drinks instead of the girls. Guys usually come to HK with a limited wad of cash. If the guys go arriba, he's not going to have much left over for the thieving waiters. They are going to spend it on something (drinks) if they cannot afford a chica. The chicas are too proud but stupid to figure it out that they are actually losing out business to the bar, their real competitor. For HK management, drinks are the money maker. The girls are the bait. Waiters are convicts. And customers, the suckers, especially tourists.

[Captain Solo]

Nothing.

I was in HK Wednesday night the same time. Would have been fun to meet you.

I noticed business drop off as early as June this year when the chicas kept insisting $100 and Cascada was pushing the $30 room option with 2 drinks. Guys were not taking chicas to hotel as frequently as before. Most girls just hang out all night not bought drinks, not taken upstairs. It's sad but the girls are still trying to push prices higher, like $150 a session.

I have done quite a few girls with low local rates. I would steer the noobs to those girls and ask them to go with those rates. For noobs loaded with too much money, well, I would let them have the pleasure of spoiling their sweethearts hehe.

[Nothing24]

I went through the SENTRI lane without a SENTRI card once. They sent me to secondary and gave me a lecture about how, if I did it again, they might impound my car and fine me USD $10,000.

Thats BS, you actually get 3 strikes if you're traveling by car without the sentri pass. I accidentally went through sentri lane a few months ago thinking it was ready lane. The customs agent said if I did it 2 more times I would get fined thousands of dollars, I forget how much, I think five. He gave me a small sheet with details, don't think I have it anymore though. I guess they're willing to accept you going through sentri lane by accident twice, but three times and it's no longer an accident.

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Anyways, went to HK this past Wednesday night around 8-9 pm. To my surprise there was an abundance of girls working in the club. Way more than any other time I can recall around the holidays. Even saw a couple of my top preferred girls working but I was in the mood for something new. Unfortunately didn't catch the right vibe with any of them. Most girls were actually just hanging around seemingly not interested in convincing mongers to take them upstairs. Kind of weird considering everyone can always use some cash around the holidays. I asked a few how much for arriba just to stir up some conversation and they all quoted $100 firm. I took pleasure in laughing in all of their faces and scoffing at their quotes especially considering they want to charge $30 standard room rates now. We must all hold strong at $80 MAX. Tip can be negotiated depending on their performance. Otherwise I would rather evaluate the talent on the streets. Some diamonds in the rough out there once in a while for a fraction of HK prices.

[WombatEd2]

This was via pedestrian entry to US. Not auto right?

Has anyone experienced the border agents allowing them to go through without Sentri / global-entry card?

I went through the SENTRI lane without a SENTRI card once. They sent me to secondary and gave me a lecture about how, if I did it again, they might impound my car and fine me USD $10,000.

[Dogers69]

The HK shuttle dropped me off at the corner of a street and told me which way to walk. There was a really long line of Mexicans, but I saw this Asian guy with a suitcase just bypassing the line of Mexicans, so I followed him. Without sentry and I supposed to line up in the same line as the Mexicans? Or is there a separate US citizen line? I have only done research on putas and very little on border crossing etc jaja.

It can be difficult to process and remember that most of the people in line are Americans. It took me years to spend spend a minute to think about it. Basically once covid hit and the line looks like same people then you know most are Americans. Because Mexicans weren't allowed in. Or they are dual citizenship. You are supposed to stand in line at the back. Now, many days I waited 4 hours in line and saw couples beg to go through without sentri and they were permitted. Especially when 1 at least had sentri. On very rare occasions only once that I saw, they had a 3rd line for Americans. I do not think, that right now the policy is to let Americans cut the line. It was more likely the guy didn't take you as a daily visitor and just figured he would be nice.