Hong Kong Club Reports

[ScottHall]

Are you saying you buy the fichas for the girls directly from the bar? Or are you referring to your own drinks? Saving the the tip for the girls sounds nice, but sounds like your are stiffing the bartender too. If I read you correctly.

Whatever the case might be. If I am chilling with a chica over fichas at a table, I ain't going to break the mood and say. I'll going to the bar to buy you or myself a drink. I also have no issues tipping the meseros if they provide a service. I just am going to take steps to not need big change from them. The following night, I got change for my hundreds into tens and fives at the front desk.

I just prefer to sit at the bar. It gives you access to the girls that dance and you can still have any girl come over to you. Anything to stay away from the meseros. They're thief's. It's like clockwork. If they think you're buzzed or distracted by your girl then they'll take off with your change and disappear.

[Jinxx]

I know how many fichas I bought and how long a chica stayed with me. Maybe I chose the right girls, we had good chemistry, she was high / buzzed / drunk, found me appealing, etc. But the last 3 nights, I spent 2-3 hours each night over fichas with a chica, with an arriba in between or at the end of the fichas session. They all averaged 3 to 4 fichas per hour in the club.

The first night...I bought 1 ficha each for the two chicas I took up for arriba (both sucked or were meh) and they were for only 5-10 min before we left for the room.

Therefore to say spending 30-40 bucks per hour for fichas isn't possible is presumptuous. Maybe it is unusual or not the norm. I'll leave it up to the locals and regulars to debate. I am just a fly by tourist from the east coast.

As with anything in life, there are many variables and it's always YMMV.

How fast she goes through fichas is one way to judge how much she likes you. If she's truly into you and she's genuinely enjoying your company she'll take her sweet time drinking her ficha.

If she's not into you at all and she only wants to drain your wallet as quickly as possible so she can hurry up and get the heck away from you then she's going to suck those drinks down and have the mesero breathing down your neck every 5 minutes to buy another ficha.

The chicas are the ones who set the tone with the meseros. If she's enjoying your company and she wants to show that she's into you the mesero will read that and will know not to pop up every 5 minutes.

So yes 3 or 4 fichas in an hour sounds just about right if you got a chica who genuinely is enjoying herself and is enjoying your company.

[SocratesNY]

Thanks for another great report Socrates.

Did you mean $30-$40/ HR with only part of the time with a gal?

$30-$40/ HR is NOT possible with gals via fichas. Most gals only spend 5 minutes for a ficha. Some go as much as 10 minutes.

So by my experience and calculation you need to spend at least $60/ HR if you are lucky and more like $80/ HR if you are spending the whole hour with gal.

I know how many fichas I bought and how long a chica stayed with me. Maybe I chose the right girls, we had good chemistry, she was high / buzzed / drunk, found me appealing, etc. But the last 3 nights, I spent 2-3 hours each night over fichas with a chica, with an arriba in between or at the end of the fichas session. They all averaged 3 to 4 fichas per hour in the club.

The first night...I bought 1 ficha each for the two chicas I took up for arriba (both sucked or were meh) and they were for only 5-10 min before we left for the room.

Therefore to say spending 30-40 bucks per hour for fichas isn't possible is presumptuous. Maybe it is unusual or not the norm. I'll leave it up to the locals and regulars to debate. I am just a fly by tourist from the east coast.

As with anything in life, there are many variables and it's always YMMV.

[SocratesNY]

The classic mesero move is to jack your change when they think you're distracted by having a hot chick on your lap kissing on you. Or if they think you're drunk. I refuse to buy drinks from the crooked meseros. I'd rather buy from the bar and give those tips to the girls dancing that deserve it.

Are you saying you buy the fichas for the girls directly from the bar? Or are you referring to your own drinks? Saving the the tip for the girls sounds nice, but sounds like your are stiffing the bartender too. If I read you correctly.

Whatever the case might be. If I am chilling with a chica over fichas at a table, I ain't going to break the mood and say. I'll going to the bar to buy you or myself a drink. I also have no issues tipping the meseros if they provide a service. I just am going to take steps to not need big change from them. The following night, I got change for my hundreds into tens and fives at the front desk.

[Babe Magnet]

Also, my question is how much money should I pay for the girl herself. Did you have actual amount some guy paid for similar 4 hours trip. I understand things vary by girls like anything else in life but I am trying to have an idea for what should I pay for 7.5-8 girl.

Why don't you just invite her on a date for a romantic night on the beach, gratis. A lot depends on you: if you're a stud, she may say "yes"; if you're a dud, it's never going to happen. Also depends on where she's from. A lot of girls from Southern Mexico are packed 2 to a room in those shithole zona hotels and would go with you on their night off just to get a break from that. If not, and you really want it that bad, negotiate pops; never pay a girl to eat, drink or sleep with you--if she doesn't value your companionship enough to spend time with you, why would you even want to be with her. Besides, there are 5,000 other putas in Tijuana who might.

But, 4 hours is nothing with commute time, check-in and setup time. You need at least all night for what you're planning. But, yeah, Rosarito Beach is probably the best local destination for what you've got in mind unless you want to go all the way to Ensenada.

I'm trying not to read too much into your post, KTF, but don't take "your date" seriously, if that's what you're thinking. There's no future in relationships with bar girls. An hour after she leaves you, she'll be screwing her lazy boyfriend. You sound like an earnest, decent guy and I'd hate to see you get caught up in all that shit.

[Babe Magnet]

Babe Magnet thinks he naturally attracts babes so he might suggest you can get free time with the girls.

It's not easy, Captain. I pull maybe 1 or 2 girls per month out of the bars. We have dinner, drinks, dancing and usually retire to my place on the beach for the night. For 18 hours, we pretend we're madly in love and then she goes back to her lazy boyfriend and I go on to the next one. It's all a game, but it can be done if that's his objective.

Rosarito Beach is a boring, run-down town with not much to do, except hanging out, drinking in the Rosarito Beach hotel and a few gawdy bars / restaurants along the main dusty road. The water is murky and polluted; I would never want to swim there. You can have horse rides along the beach, but the whole beach is littered and the sand is brown / green with horse shit from those tours and nobody cleans them up. Damn disgusting.

Now, Captain. Rosarito is no Lanakai Beach but it's a helluva lot nicer than anything in Tijuana. Maybe 25 years ago I would agree with you but no more.

A bro took a girl to Cancun for 3 days, brought $600 worth of cosmetics for her. He thought that plus trip expenses would compensate for her time and sessions, but she resisted and made him pay for each and every session just like in the bar. She treated the vacation as an exclusive opportunity to make money from him hehe. They had vicious fights and the vacation was fucked! He was deeply in love with that girls, but finally had to pay her per pop. He should have figured she was all about business, but I rarely ever saw any guy so deeply in love with any girl! She broke off all contacts right after.

PLM. I can't even feel sorry for him.

[Babe Magnet]

Looks like HK is making the girls feel like they are getting ripped off if they take anything lower than $100.

The bars don't care what the girls charge. They make nothing off arribas except the hotel fees. Actually, they'd prefer the girls charge less so they have more short-term hotel fees from more aribas. The girls are testing your will to see if you will pay $100 and based on what many mongers are posting, looks like the girls are winning. Most of the girls in bars right now are from the interior of Southern Mexico. Their only objective is to make as much money as possible in the least amount of time and get the hell out of Tijuana. We'll see what happens when the locals return from their hiatus from the shitshow.

[Babe Magnet]

I've found that if you take the time to break the ice over multiple fichas, have some game and / or average to decent looking and isn't a cheapskate, you can get GFE service from most of the girls for $100 rate.

Hell, you could get GFE from a masero for $100 for 30 minutes.

[Hadez]

It can vary. I have seen a girl take minutes to empty her drink. When having fun with a girl she seems to take longer on her drinks.

The last three trips been getting girls putting more urgency on fischas. Think the clubs putting more pressure on the girls than before.

[Hadez]

The only constant in this is HK being The Show. Last Thursday I would say CC was single A, Tropical was double A and Adelitas was single A with one girl ready for triple A and another girl ready for The Show.

Yeah, when I went Chicago Club was single A ball. Tropical was double AA ball. Adelita's was triple AAA ball. And Hong Kong Club was the major leagues! The show! I never had too many problems with the meseros though. In fact, none! Count myself lucky.

[Captain Solo]

Socrate.

1. Fichas are good entertainment values. You can screw2 or 3 girls a night max, but you can flirt, make out and have sexy fun with hot girls all night with fichas. Mexican chicas are mostly lied to, cheated, abused and exploited all their lives. They hate cheap guys who try to take advantage of them, but can easily fall in love with guys who show they are sincere, generous, caring, loving. I had many hot times with chicas over fichas in the bar, hugging, squeezing, DFK, sucking on tits, FIV ect. A few young girls went wild in lust in bed after all that cooing, talking, touching and fingering in the bar, even though I speak very little Spanish. A wingman cannot speak one word of Spanish, nor even "yes" or "no", but using the same strategies, he gets full-blown GFEs with any chicas he targets.

2. HK girls vary widely in their preferences, how they treat guys, what they would do and how far they would go with certain guys in bed. Some like whites, blacks, latinos, Asians, tall, short, fat, skinny ect acting out their fantasies. A few lesbians like small, short guys whom they love like babies in bed hehe. HK girls are overall nice, sweet, gentle, affectionate, giving kinds. You would be surprised how the hottest girls with the highest demands would do with guys whom they like. It may take a few meetings for them to drop their guards. Guys who go to HK every week have great advantage. I would stick propinas into the boobs and their crotches, hug them close, kiss their cheeks, and whisper in their ears how they are so beautiful and I love them so much. Even the hottest and most difficult girls would soften in my arms, their eyes lit up and they would smile sweetly. The girls enjoy the sexy party life too. Treat them with love, care like any girls in US clubs and you will have hot times. HK is a great place for guys to learn how to assess and develop good relationships with women.

5. Brazilian steakhouses in Tijuana are surprisingly good, better than those in LA and even on par t with the best one I had in Rio and Sao Paolo, and they cost very little. I would recommend Mr. Pampas over Churrasscaria since its meats are exquisitely grilled; their roast beef is so tender and flavorful, it alone is worth the visit. Use Translate to request your cuts of meat and how they should be grilled.

On the same Blvd Gen Taboada only 1 mile South of La Zona, Mariscos Ruben and tacos El Franc serve fresh authentic seafood and all kinds of tacos, pork, beef, head, tongue, mutton ect worth visiting.

7. Forget about the $21 for 3 songs lap dances in the tiny, airtight booths in Miami. A few girls get uninhibited in those secret nooks and can turn freaky in bed, but you can get much better value and a lot more fun by inviting your favorite girls to drink in dark corners on 2nd or 3rd floor. Just buy a few fichas upfront and tell the meseros not to come back.

8. Meseros may be fired if clients complain to management. They make a lot money than most girls every night so they don't want to jeopardize their jobs. Some may get chummy, assuming the client is well off and generous, therefore help themselves to a large tip. I only tip them $1 for each service. Even the hottest girls make far less money and deserve tips to strip, dance or just to show up to work.

12. I took noobs to all other bars, Chicago, Adelita, Tropical, but they all quickly want to go back to HK as the girls are hotter, more flirty and far more entertaining. We usually just walk around the bar, check out the girls, tip a few strippers and walk out, rarely every spend any time and money drinking. Funny how those old and chunky girls want the same rates as much hotter HK girls; their hotels like Jalos charge even higher rates than Cascada. Mexicans have very poor business sense. HK is the best value with the hottest girls and the best entertainment. Chavelas recently has lots of new girls, young and hot. Chavelas girls will DFK right in the bar, so you know you can get much better mileage in the hotel. Sometimes I just like to escape HK's rap music and chill with girls in Chavelas, listening to its sensuous and romantic Latin music.

13. There are over a hundred girls every night in HK and Chavelas of all kinds of sizes, shapes, personalities, skin and hair colors that can fit anyone's taste. Some look as hot as runway models or movie stars, but far nicer and sweeter, make you wish you can spend every night with them hehe. A few wingmen have mongered all over the world for many years, think very highly of Tijuana's sex scene.

Even hotter and sexier times can be had with private escorts, agencies, girls from Tinder, Seeking Arrangement, civies in nightclubs. HK girls are hot, but I have seen some of the sweetest, angelic-looking young girls, true 10's in any international beauty scale, in civie clubs. Quite a few guys have good, loving relationships with hot GFs in Tijuana, spending a few nights and weekends with them every week, make me envious hehe. The escorts and civie scenes take more time than offers for instant love and sex in HK, but may be sweeter and better values, worth exploring.

Better yet, find your favorite girls and take them to exotic spots in Mexico for vacations. Cancun, Tulum, Cabos, Mazatlan, Manzanilla are beautiful, romantic places full of sun, fun, recreations, water sports, exquisite food to share a week with hot girls. Love and pamper them like a true lover and you will get your honeymoons.

Glad you had such hot times in Tijuana and thanks for distilling and sharing your insights.

[Rambo1969]

fichas are still great way to past the time and enjoy yourself in the club. For $30-40 per hour, you can chill with, grope, dance with, grind with, make out with, and even suck or finger a hot chica!

6). Get Global Entry. My two crossings back to the US. Time from getting off taxi and cruising into the US. 8 minutes the first time. 5 minutes the second time. ... Flash my GE card and walked by them..

Thanks for another great report Socrates.

Did you mean $30-$40/ HR with only part of the time with a gal?

$30-$40/ HR is NOT possible with gals via fichas. Most gals only spend 5 minutes for a ficha. Some go as much as 10 minutes.

So by my experience and calculation you need to spend at least $60/ HR if you are lucky and more like $80/ HR if you are spending the whole hour with gal.

AND. I agree global entry is a no-brainer.

Better for those of us who fly into San Diego since we also get the bonus of TSA-pre for the flights.

[Captain Solo]

Socrate.

It was very nice to meet a bro with kindred spirit, nice, fun, helpful, coming from way across the continent. Too bad we did not spend much time together, but I understand you were on very tight schedule and there were so many hot, sweet girls hanging out in HK who could drive even Bhudda or the Pope wild with love and lust hehe.

Looks like you quickly figured out how to spend the sweetest time and get the hottest sessions with HK chicas. You are a quick leaner and a fast mover. Your observations pretty much confirmed my factual reports all along of how much fun, hot sex and good time we can get with the hot Tijuana chicas without breaking our piggy banks.

[The Cane]

Chicago was my first introduction to Tijuana over 20 years ago and I have fond memories of the place. It used to Rock. However, Chicago, Adelitas and Tropical can't hold a candle to HK now. It's like the Yankees vs. A AAA farm team or the Patriots vs. The Jets. I am sure you can find value and the diamond in the rough at the other places, but unless you are a local and / or regular visitor to Tijuana, just stick with HK.

Yeah, when I went Chicago Club was single A ball. Tropical was double AA ball. Adelita's was triple AAA ball. And Hong Kong Club was the major leagues! The show! I never had too many problems with the meseros though. In fact, none! Count myself lucky.

[ScottHall]

The classic mesero move is to jack your change when they think you're distracted by having a hot chick on your lap kissing on you. Or if they think you're drunk. I refuse to buy drinks from the crooked meseros. I'd rather buy from the bar and give those tips to the girls dancing that deserve it.