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  1. #14064

    Millennium Falcon

    At least the pilot's advice is universal as in universally rejected. For newer posters who don't know any better, believe everything you read at your own peril.

  2. #14063
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Greggy,

    While sitting with guys, HK girls always have their roving eyes scan the club looking for the next tickets. If you find a girl sitting with a guy, you can always come over, excuse yourself, tell her you want to talk to her and point out where you sit. She will find you after she's done with the fichas. It's just civilized and proper etiquettes.

    The guy does not own the girl all night, and should not object to someone else talking to her for a few seconds. I never had problems excusing myself and interrupting a ficha. One of HK'; s hottest, sweetest-looking and most popular stripper from Monterrey usually had a line of guys waiting to buy her drinks, but that time she just excused herself, left a ficha and went to the hotel with me. The young Mexican guy was cool; he understood the girls need to make money and gave her a pass. But some possessive guys may get jealous and object. Just politely say "Lo siento" or "permisso" to him before you cut in, you will get a pass. Got to admit, the Mexican guys are cool, fun, civilized, at least in HK, if you treat them right.
    That's a very nice approach and if done with respect etc. Should go fairly well I would think. What I find funny as hell is I will be roaming through the club as I normally do. (for some reason I don't like sitting to long). And a guy will be with a girl and I have glanced at some of the girls and they actually glance back and give a little flirting smile. Dang. It always surprises me when they do this. Not all of them but maybe 25% etc. You can tell they are there for the money baby!

    G.

  3. #14062

    HK's dating etiquettes

    Buying a girl a ficha does not mean owning her like a slave. What kinds of stupid, ugly assholes would forbid her from interacting with others of her own choosing? She has her choice whom she talks to. She also has a choice to make up to him for any time lost.

    I showed the guys the civilized way to approach a girl while she's sitting with another guy in HK. Guys in the club are mostly nice, fun, friendly, civilized people. They would never take offense if you excuse yourself first and don't hog their time, evidenced by the new bro who went down talking to the girl in yellow dress he really liked. He's new in the HK scene but came back all smiling; she agreed to meet afterwards. Did he get punched or hassled? Noooooo! But some guys may be intimidated and scared shitless in the bar to conduct themselves within socially acceptable constraints, at least in a puta bar like HK. I am not advising them to do it in every bar, but in HK, it's acceptable. Of course if she's sitting with a mean sicario in a dive bar with a gun in his crotch then don't do it. Just wait for her to finish.

    I have done it many times in HK. I also popped propinas into panties of civie girls on dates with BFs and lesbians on dates with their GFs. An older, dignified Mexican couple was standing next to me at the bar, ogling girls, smiling at the sexy antics going on the stage, They were having fun. I gestured to the woman if I could give her a propina into her boobs. Surprised, she pulled down her bra showing her tit and a squeeze a propina in. I did not squeeze her tit as per Normal Operating Procedure with HK girls. She was delighted, smiling sweetly and sexily. The old man was also smiling that his date was noticed. The women in that sexy environment were delighted that someone noticed their alleged attractiveness. It's all in your attitude and your expressions. If you don't act offensively, they won't take offense. The women even enjoyed their little fun and sexy experience in the club, something they would probably brag to other women.

    I show the guys what can be done in HK. If they are weak pussies and have no guts for it, they should not do it. Just stay home and jack off to porn. Any stupid asshole who takes a swing at me will definitely spend some serious honeymoons with Jose Gonzalez in Tijuana's La Mesa all-inclusive resort. I also have a few tough tort attorneys who can make millions out of cases like that.

    I'd be OK with this if a guy interested in the girl I'm with asks me first. If it turns out I'm not interested in her, I'd let him know. Otherwise I'd tell him to wait his turn.

    In alignment with other posters have mentioned. Interrupting a guys bought time with a girl will definitely increase your chances of a scuffle. At the very least, if it happened to me. I'd tell the guy to piss off if he was really eating into my time.

    Now if it was just a dude swinging by saying Hi to a girl he liked who just so happens to be sitting with me, I probably wouldn't care. But regardless if its Tijuana or anywhere else, most girls will pretend like they don't know you when they're with another client in an effort to minimize their "popularity" per se.

  4. #14061
    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    I'd be ok with this if a guy interested in the girl I'm with asks me first. If it turns out I'm not interested in her, I'd let him know. Otherwise I'd tell him to wait his turn.

    In alignment with other posters have mentioned. Interrupting a guys bought time with a girl will definitely increase your chances of a scuffle. At the very least, if it happened to me. I'd tell the guy to piss off if he was really eating into my time.

    Now if it was just a dude swinging by saying Hi to a girl he liked who just so happens to be sitting with me, I probably wouldn't care. But regardless if its Tijuana or anywhere else, most girls will pretend like they don't know you when they're with another client in an effort to minimize their "popularity" per se.

    Pretty sure its not a turn on if your girl were to recognize every bloke in the bar LOL.
    I've had countless fichas and the girls never pay attention to other guys and won't even acknowledge another weirdo trying to cut in. You'll probably get kicked out of the club if you go around interrupting fichas. The meseros won't side with the guy causing trouble. The mesero and the girl will side with guy giving them business. I'm convinced that cap just makes stuff up on the fly. This one is pretty ridiculous.

  5. #14060
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottHall  [View Original Post]
    Eeh. I don't know about all that. I don't think I've ever seen a guy blatantly interrupt another guy's ficha. If the girl knows the guy and likes him then she's not going to disrespect him and take off on him. Interrupting someone's date just makes you look like a creepo and the girl probably won't be impressed by that. This is really poor advice and a good way to get into fights.
    Got to agree. This could turn out poorly. If it were me, I'd be pissed. If I'm investing time and dollars into a few fichas, and someone comes over and interrupts that investment, I think that is a bad move. There are dozens if not hundreds of other options. I think most would take offense to that. We all complain about waiters endlessly interrupting our time with the chicas. Some other dude interrupting me? No.

  6. #14059
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Greggy,

    While sitting with guys, HK girls always have their roving eyes scan the club looking for the next tickets. If you find a girl sitting with a guy, you can always come over, excuse yourself, tell her you want to talk to her and point out where you sit. She will find you after she's done with the fichas. It's just civilized and proper etiquettes.

    The guy does not own the girl all night, and should not object to someone else talking to her for a few seconds. I never had problems excusing myself and interrupting a ficha. One of HK'; s hottest, sweetest-looking and most popular stripper from Monterrey usually had a line of guys waiting to buy her drinks, but that time she just excused herself, left a ficha and went to the hotel with me. The young Mexican guy was cool; he understood the girls need to make money and gave her a pass. But some possessive guys may get jealous and object. Just politely say "Lo siento" or "permisso" to him before you cut in, you will get a pass. Got to admit, the Mexican guys are cool, fun, civilized, at least in HK, if you treat them right.
    I'd be ok with this if a guy interested in the girl I'm with asks me first. If it turns out I'm not interested in her, I'd let him know. Otherwise I'd tell him to wait his turn.

    In alignment with other posters have mentioned. Interrupting a guys bought time with a girl will definitely increase your chances of a scuffle. At the very least, if it happened to me. I'd tell the guy to piss off if he was really eating into my time.

    Now if it was just a dude swinging by saying Hi to a girl he liked who just so happens to be sitting with me, I probably wouldn't care. But regardless if its Tijuana or anywhere else, most girls will pretend like they don't know you when they're with another client in an effort to minimize their "popularity" per se.

    Pretty sure its not a turn on if your girl were to recognize every bloke in the bar LOL.

  7. #14058
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottHall  [View Original Post]
    Eeh. I don't know about all that. I don't think I've ever seen a guy blatantly interrupt another guy's ficha. If the girl knows the guy and likes him then she's not going to disrespect him and take off on him. Interrupting someone's date just makes you look like a creepo and the girl probably won't be impressed by that. This is really poor advice and a good way to get into fights.
    I'd pay to watch this!

  8. #14057
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Greggy,

    While sitting with guys, HK girls always have their roving eyes scan the club looking for the next tickets. If you find a girl sitting with a guy, you can always come over, excuse yourself, tell her you want to talk to her and point out where you sit. She will find you after she's done with the fichas. It's just civilized and proper etiquettes.

    The guy does not own the girl all night, and should not object to someone else talking to her for a few seconds. I never had problems excusing myself and interrupting a ficha. One of HK'; s hottest, sweetest-looking and most popular stripper from Monterrey usually had a line of guys waiting to buy her drinks, but that time she just excused herself, left a ficha and went to the hotel with me. The young Mexican guy was cool; he understood the girls need to make money and gave her a pass. But some possessive guys may get jealous and object. Just politely say "Lo siento" or "permisso" to him before you cut in, you will get a pass. Got to admit, the Mexican guys are cool, fun, civilized, at least in HK, if you treat them right..
    This is bad bad advice for most guys. If I pay for a girls drink and you need to talk to her then it's a problem. I can't be the only guy who thinks like that. Let's put it this way. In USA if a guys in a bar with a girl talking and you think you need to jump in, to talk to her, you are risking a fight. A few times I was dating a 9 I could not even leave a bar to take a piss because the guys would swarm in. Even at the nude beach they would have the nerve to hit on her as if I was invisible while we were laying down. Don't be that guy.

  9. #14056
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Greggy,

    While sitting with guys, HK girls always have their roving eyes scan the club looking for the next tickets. If you find a girl sitting with a guy, you can always come over, excuse yourself, tell her you want to talk to her and point out where you sit. She will find you after she's done with the fichas. It's just civilized and proper etiquettes.

    The guy does not own the girl all night, and should not object to someone else talking to her for a few seconds. I never had problems excusing myself and interrupting a ficha. One of HK'; s hottest, sweetest-looking and most popular stripper from Monterrey usually had a line of guys waiting to buy her drinks, but that time she just excused herself, left a ficha and went to the hotel with me. The young Mexican guy was cool; he understood the girls need to make money and gave her a pass. But some possessive guys may get jealous and object. Just politely say "Lo siento" or "permisso" to him before you cut in, you will get a pass. Got to admit, the Mexican guys are cool, fun, civilized, at least in HK, if you treat them right..
    Eeh. I don't know about all that. I don't think I've ever seen a guy blatantly interrupt another guy's ficha. If the girl knows the guy and likes him then she's not going to disrespect him and take off on him. Interrupting someone's date just makes you look like a creepo and the girl probably won't be impressed by that. This is really poor advice and a good way to get into fights.

  10. #14055

    The next big ISG party in HK

    Saturday night I was sitting in a booth with a couple noobs. A very beautiful girl was standing near the stage in a tasteful set of white bras and garter hose. Her body was just perfect, smooth, light skin, no tats, centerfold material, her perfect butt was pointing out, swaying to the music. The noobs all thought she was perfect. I urged them to talk to her but they were reluctant, so I came over, grabbed her butts, squeezed a propina into her bras and asked her name. Her body was all natural, her face was innocent and breathtakingly pretty with little make up. She told me her name but I promptly forgot in awe of her beauty. She then leaned over and stuck her tongue into my mouth. Damn. She was so attractive and loveable, but she was ready to go on stage and could not go with me. I went back to the table, told the noobs she would be a sex fiend in bed. I really wanted to take her to the hotel but got busy with the party and lost track of her. Will try to find this dream girl again soon.

    When we were ready to go home, I took 2 expensive tequila bottles to my car, a Don Julio 1942 and a 70, costed a couple hundred dollars, courtesy of a new bro, NeverOnce. He bought them to treat the wingmen but we hardly drank any, one bottle still had HK's seal on it. I took them because otherwise the meseros would steal them anyway.

    I have a bar at home with lots of liquors but very rarely drink. It's only proper if I treat these 2 Tequila bottles to ISG bros. So we will have another big party in HK soon. I will bring the bottles in HK. With 2 expensive bottles we should be able to get the best booth in the house where hot, young strippers can rub their big boobs with tiny pink tits and shove their moist, fragrant, hairy crotches into your faces hehe. Hot HK girls will swarm over our booth for the companies of VIPs and their largesse. HK meseros will treat us with courtesy and respect according billionaires.

    The bros should tell me when they are in town so we can meet and have some fun. I will drive down a car load of noobs to show them how to really party and have a fun, exciting, sexy party with hot HK girls and good friends.

  11. #14054

    HK's dating etiquettes

    Greggy,

    While sitting with guys, HK girls always have their roving eyes scan the club looking for the next tickets. If you find a girl sitting with a guy, you can always come over, excuse yourself, tell her you want to talk to her and point out where you sit. She will find you after she's done with the fichas. It's just civilized and proper etiquettes.

    The guy does not own the girl all night, and should not object to someone else talking to her for a few seconds. I never had problems excusing myself and interrupting a ficha. One of HK'; s hottest, sweetest-looking and most popular stripper from Monterrey usually had a line of guys waiting to buy her drinks, but that time she just excused herself, left a ficha and went to the hotel with me. The young Mexican guy was cool; he understood the girls need to make money and gave her a pass. But some possessive guys may get jealous and object. Just politely say "Lo siento" or "permisso" to him before you cut in, you will get a pass. Got to admit, the Mexican guys are cool, fun, civilized, at least in HK, if you treat them right.

    The other night I was sitting at bar Kowloon. A local guy was walking his SO, a big rotund woman, around the club. She liked skinny young girls and was going around popping propinas into their panties. I gestured the guy "WTF?" he gestured back "So what?" I gestured the woman over, pulled her big panties down and popped a propina into her hairy crotch. She was smiling broadly like she was also desirable. The guy was smiling, delighted. Got to admit, you always have to prepare to duck a punch in situations like that hehe. But I never got punched in HK, ever. HK's beefy meseros are the best bodyguards money can rent hehe.

  12. #14053
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Went down with 2 wingmen, arrived in Tijuana about 3 PM. The bros did not have lunch so were hungry. They wanted the Shrimp Quesadilla, so we walked through the alley, headed South on Ninos towards the Cathedral's Plaza. Stopped in a corner shop to get 3 cold beers and got in Mariscos El Choforo. The place had 8 tables, all occupied, so we waited 5 minutes. I told the bros it was worth the wait as El Choforo served the freshest sea food among the dozen shops in that plaza.

    I ordered a medium shrimp cocktail, 90 pesos or $4.50. It had a lot of large shrimps and octopus, tasted fresh, plum and juicy in a tomato and lime juice broth. The bros ordered a combo, a large shrimp quesadilla, a large cup of seafood consome and a soda, 80-pesos. The food was fresh and tasty in a blend of fresh ingredients, very good value, worth the short walk. Mariscos que LE Damo next to hotel Irma has been ripping me off with a 150-peso shrimp cocktail with less shrimp.

    Got in HK, got vouchers for free beers, walked around scoping out the talents. Lots of girls, the hottest ones were working. Found a booth near the mains stage, drinking, watching the strip show. After a while a mesero said his booth was reserved and his clients showed up. I wanted to see if he was bullshitting me so refused to give up the table. He called in his floor manager who apologized and moved us to a table near the front door, even a better spot to watch the senoritas hehe.

    Neveronce already checked into Cascada, texted me and went looking for us in HK. He wandered around with a beer in hand, eyes popping out of sockets like a young buck lost in the wood. I grabbed and seated him in down at our table, introduced him to the other bros. We were all happy to finally meet up, excited about the fun, sexy night ahead with new friends. The bro gave a mesero 2 hundred dollar bills to exchange for $ propinas. I thought he was going to party big. Mesero brought 2 big stacks of $ bills, looking like two bricks of a white substance hehe. The bro asked me if the mesero would miscount, but the bar counts bills by a little machine and I doubted the mesero would cheat him for a small amount..
    We have all probably experienced that "girl in the yellow dress" feeling where the girl we want is with another guy and who knows if you will be able to get her. Last time I was in HK I ran into Sorey. Pretty girl with nice tiny body. I flirted with her for a bit and said I would be back for a drink as I had just gotten to the HK and thought. "maybe something better out there". I wandered around a bit and realized. Sorey was the hottest ticket in town but she was gone from where she was standing. I glanced around and saw her sharing a drink with a guy and flirting it up with him which she has a wonderful way of doing. I thought DAM. I may not get her till later or. Maybe not at all.

    This also happened with a girl in Adalita's who this guy sat and bought this girl drinks for hours! Never took her upstairs and I just got tired of waiting her. Course there always is "another girl". Maybe not right at that moment. But it's Zona Norte baby and they just keep coming!

    G.

  13. #14052

    A wild party night with wingmen Sep 25

    Went down with 2 wingmen, arrived in Tijuana about 3 PM. The bros did not have lunch so were hungry. They wanted the Shrimp Quesadilla, so we walked through the alley, headed South on Ninos towards the Cathedral's Plaza. Stopped in a corner shop to get 3 cold beers and got in Mariscos El Choforo. The place had 8 tables, all occupied, so we waited 5 minutes. I told the bros it was worth the wait as El Choforo served the freshest sea food among the dozen shops in that plaza.

    I ordered a medium shrimp cocktail, 90 pesos or $4.50. It had a lot of large shrimps and octopus, tasted fresh, plum and juicy in a tomato and lime juice broth. The bros ordered a combo, a large shrimp quesadilla, a large cup of seafood consome and a soda, 80-pesos. The food was fresh and tasty in a blend of fresh ingredients, very good value, worth the short walk. Mariscos que LE Damo next to hotel Irma has been ripping me off with a 150-peso shrimp cocktail with less shrimp.

    Got in HK, got vouchers for free beers, walked around scoping out the talents. Lots of girls, the hottest ones were working. Found a booth near the mains stage, drinking, watching the strip show. After a while a mesero said his booth was reserved and his clients showed up. I wanted to see if he was bullshitting me so refused to give up the table. He called in his floor manager who apologized and moved us to a table near the front door, even a better spot to watch the senoritas hehe.

    Neveronce already checked into Cascada, texted me and went looking for us in HK. He wandered around with a beer in hand, eyes popping out of sockets like a young buck lost in the wood. I grabbed and seated him in down at our table, introduced him to the other bros. We were all happy to finally meet up, excited about the fun, sexy night ahead with new friends. The bro gave a mesero 2 hundred dollar bills to exchange for $ propinas. I thought he was going to party big. Mesero brought 2 big stacks of $ bills, looking like two bricks of a white substance hehe. The bro asked me if the mesero would miscount, but the bar counts bills by a little machine and I doubted the mesero would cheat him for a small amount.

    After drinking and ogling senoritas, the bros wanted to check out the alley and hotel Irma. We walked out about 6; the sun was still out, the air was warm and dry. Lots of girls lined up the alley; Anahi was at HK's back door. She works long hour. Melanie also showed up. Wendy Vampire was across the street. Camilla, Johana, Mariccela were near hotel Coahuila, lots of girls in front of hotel Ibiza.

    There were only a few girls at Irma, not noteworthy. Did find Lucy on the street, tiny and tight with a pretty face. I prefer down to earth girls like Lucy and Eileen who give honest, sexy sessions with no head games like some HK girls. Sara crossed the street from hotel Diamante with 2 of her friends. She's a pretty spinner but is known difficult.

    Went back in HK. The bro wanted a table on the balcony over the main stage so he could have a big view. We got a good table right over the main stage, a perfect look out spot. A mesero took an order from the bro, brought a $250 Don Julio 1942 bottle in an ice bucket and started to pour shots for everyone at the table. That is the most expensive Don Julio bottle. It's thick, spicy, slightly sweet, sticks to your throat and lingers with good after taste.

    We were watching the strip show below, occasionally tossing handfuls of greens down the main stage. The bro spotted the a hot, must have girl in a yellow dress, sitting with a guy on the first floor. I urged him to go down and talked to her. She said would meet up after five minutes. Meseros brought over a few girls. We sat and drank with them. The bro poured a shot of Don Julio for his girl. It could knock her off her feet. He was drinking with his girls but was not touching, squeezing them per HK's Normal Operating Procedure. He's still operating with a rigid, prudish mindset ingrained in him in the US. I was caressing my girl, drinking shots with her, but could not get a DFK, so she was crossed off the list.

    Pretty Kismas came and sat with us with her sweet, bright smile, gave me her tel and promised to meet up. The bro paid for all their fichas. He was tipping the meseros $5 and $10 bills. I actually checked the propinas before letting them go. Meseros were so happy, they treated us with courtesies and respect like billionaires. Speedy was running a tequila shot show on the main stage with hot girls hanging on the swing, shoving their crotches onto guy's face, wrapping their long legs around their necks. Speedy knew all about the new big client on the balcony, so he went up pulling the bro down for the shots, but he declined. He urged me to go but I already had a couple shots, not risking more. Man, could have been sexier with those moist crotches shoved in the face.

    Meseros brought a Don Julio 70 bottle with a fiery birthday Roman candle. He was drinking only beers, not Tequilas. The meseros talked him into all kinds of orders, which he likely did not even know what and how much he paid for. Damn. As long as he was cool with treating the bros and the girls, I was not complaining hehe.

    2 bros wanted to go to Mr. Pampas for its famous Brazilian BBQ dinner. The bro was resistant, did not want to leave hot, sexy girls for food. I gave the mesero Azul's free snack voucher, ordered a beef nacho and a Buffalo wings. Mesero checked with the bro, $10 for 2 snack plates; he approved. The beef nacho was pretty good; buffalo wings were a mess of greasy drumsticks in ketchup. He could not be pried loose from that balcony over the sexy strip stage, so that was the only food he had all night. Hope the girls got some of that food.

    3 of us departed for Mr. Pampas. Meseros were hovering over the bottles. The bro was drinking only beers, not Tequila and officially could not feed it to the girls. He bought the bottles to treat the wingmen. If he left the table without us, meseros would quickly grab them. " OOPS! Don't know what happed to your bottles, Senor. Lo Siento." hehe. I took the Don Julio 1942 bottle, walked out the club, stored it in my car, saved them to treat wingmen in the next trip.

    Came back after dinner, walked the alley. Introduced a bro to Paola de GDL in front of Ibiza. She's tall, nice, clean, pretty, beautiful all around. The bro had been aching to get out of the house for Tijuana in 2 years. I asked her to treat him nice. He said she was very nice, a good find.

    We came back to HK to say good bye. The bro was still sitting at the same spot on the balcony ogling hot strippers. Did not know if he ever got with the girl in the yellow dress. He said sweet, innocent Ciara de Sonora sent her friend to give him her tel to meet up. Man, Ciara looks so sweet and pretty. Looks like she wanted his LTR. I uploaded her edited pic so you know how pretty some Mexican girls are. 5 unknown guys were now crammed into the table. You cannot hold an empty table when guys needed places to sit. These unknown guys would have knocked down the 2 tequila bottles so quick. I took the Don Julio 70 birthday bottle. It was not even opened. The bro had no idea he bought it. I am glad I saved them to treat my wingmen at a later date.

    It was lots of fun to meet and party with the bros in the club. Had a big fun and exciting night in the company of hot girls and good friends. Looking forward to more. Guys from out of state should make contacts and party with the bros when you are in town. Just be nice, gentlemanly and generous with the hot girls in the club and you will be treated like VIPs and have lots of sexy fun. Damn. HK is far more fun, more exciting and sexier than any club in Vegas. Just skip Vegas and come to Tijuana to have the sexiest and most exciting time of your life. I want to thank the bro for treating us to a very special fun night.

    We left the club and drove back after midnight. Cannot wait for the next trip with my wingmen.
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  14. #14051

    First Timer

    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy1  [View Original Post]
    I plan to go to HK this week and will be bringing a group of 4 guys including me. I have only been once a few years ago and these guys have never been so I want to make sure they have a good time since a couple of them are really nervous and think it is a dangerous trip.

    Question- Is it better to rent a suite at Cascadas ahead of time or will you get a better deal if you get one there? Also, will you get better deals on the girls if you have one of the higher end suites? How does alcohol situation work in these rooms? Guessing we could buy a few 6-packs at a nearby store and keep them in the fridge?

    Any other advice for bringing a few first timers would be much appreciated. We are likely going Thursday and Friday nights.
    I've never been either. I'd suggest reading as much of these forum posts as you can and take notes, that's what I've been doing. There are some good Youtubers too, El Albert, Luke Powell and Ohnoosho.

  15. #14050

    Wise for my age

    I get that a lot from the chicas. By the time I was 21 I had seen and done more then most people do their entire lives.

    The world is an ugly place once you see the truth. We are playing a zero sum game. As a Mexican American I really feel for these women.

    Take it from someone who lost a decade of their life to addiction. Take what you need from mongering and get out.

    We are lucky as Americans, with enough discipline almost anything is possible.

    For these girls this is their ticket out of crushing poverty if they are smart.

    The young girls are hard to crack sometimes but with enough finesse and vetting you can great experiences from them too. At least I have.

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