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Door knocks, respect, and hygiene
I have reserved rooms at both Rizo and Cascadas and never received a door knock. I've spent between 3-8 hours in the room with a chica. I've even brought chicas from other clubs on their days off. Not sure why you guys keep getting knocks on the door for beers or buckets for that matter. Also the monger that thinks he is going to bat 100 each outing has to experience more international markets. Sometimes chemistry is off and you just can't get off depending on attitude, lack of hygiene, or lack of sexual chemistry.
Not to sound obvious, but some mongers need to respect the ladies for what they do for a living and also possibly improve their own hygiene. I don't think they care about what you wear as I've always been dressed like I'm going to the gym, which essentially is what I'm doing putting in some cardio sessions. Why do I need to dress to impress if I'm paying for their services? I don't dress up when I visit a masseuse. We are all going to end up with no clothes in the end anyways.
I've always been respectful and paid them what we agreed to. Some ladies have been burnt in past so they want to be paid up front. Mongers might say one amount and then act like they don't have enough to pay them at the end. I've heard some mongers even stealing money out of the ladies purses while they shower which is really low. I understand why they don't trust us. It doesn't matter how much money you have if the girls don't feel safe around you. They want to be able to make money and go back to their families or kids at the end of the day.
Another thing to add is that I haven't found language skills to be an issue as I know minimal Spanish, but personalities just click. If they feel safe around you and have a good time, then they will be more willing to spend time outside the clubs. Also some will have reputations in the club as the ladies also have chat groups and photos of mongers with details just like this board. So if you think you can disrespect them, then they have a photo of you. It isn't just them browsing on their phones, but they also take snaps of the customers for their circle of friends.
It is good that HK takes care of their customers that complain of bad service. Try complaining to a cartel, triad, gang, etc. That probably pimps the girls out when you go to these other international destinations. You'll probably get more than you ask for when filing a complaint with tried and true killers.
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Posts: 196
HK Puta Training
Originally Posted by CaptainSolo
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Blackthoughts.
It's stupid HK does not have someone who coaches chicas how to deal with customers and the basic of hygiene. The Chinese had a training system that worked very well.
HK should have someone who can coach and train chicas in the arts of seduction and making love.
I volunteer for that job. I can train the chicas a few times every day, especially the new, fresh young pretty ones.
Seems the only coaching they receive is on how to push their ficha count higher and their arriba price so high that no one wants to pay it, so the chicas will stay in the bar selling more fichas.
Decades ago I worked for a Real Estate broker who sold Dennis Hof his first Nevada brothel. He took his commission out in trade and would be invited to help train the new recruits in the sexual arts. Told a few stories, including when he had a FOB 18 YO being trained by a vet on how to give a BJ. He said it was weird to be in the same room with the FOB and the vet coaching her. OTOH, apparently he did not decline any training sessions.
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Regular Member
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Knocking with own room
They are starting to knock on your room at 30 minutes mark even if you have your own room. I stayed in Rizo and it was annoying as hell. HK is no longer the same. It's going to be hard to filter out the girls for repeat now. Either get them to hang out outside the bar since it's harder to connect after session. Time to change the game. Management is getting stupid.
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Originally Posted by Flyer47
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It's not a US bar. No need to buy her a drink and get to know her. A dollar gets you a grope. See woman, grope, tip dollar, start negotiations. Go upstairs or move on to the next one. Maybe get to know her if you become a regular or at least after physical things happen. I think a lot of women hate rejection so they don't bother with making approaches themselves.
Exacto! Is a *****house not some high school or church dance LOL.
I never considered myself shy growing up but *****houses brought out and continue to bring out the best ever man in me.
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Originally Posted by CaptainSolo
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Jackie is on to something her.
Chicas would stand there with Fat Fuck but keep distance like coworkers, the same way they treat meseros. I have never seen girls squeeze or kiss Fat Fuck; he never touches, gropes, kisses or goes to hotel with any girls So he's not a monger, more likely a HK'ss employee.
The more I look into it this Fat Fuck is just phony actor doing HK's cheap theatrics to gouge more money from us, so I spend less money on drinks and tips, and get as many free drinks as I can. Guys with VIP cards should go for a free Don Julio 70, Patron Silver or 1800 Cristalino shot, costing $10-15 at the bar.
Patron Silver ($85 in store) is harsh, biting, strong Agave nose. Don Julio 70 ($70 in store) is a lot smoother with fruity fragrance, very popular with chicas in HK. But 1800 Cristalino ($55 in store) is even better than DJ 70, very smooth with a strong Agave nose and taste, slightly sweeter and fruitier.
Noob bought a 1800 Cristalino bottle ($38) at the UETA duty-free store in San Ysidro to party with HK girls in Cascada. 2 HK girls took 2 shots and fucked each other like rabbits; he does not drink alcohol so gave me the bottle. It turns out to be an outstanding liquor for my and HK girls' taste. I enjoy it a lot more than far more expensive Cognacs and Whiskeys.
Couple bros have been giving me their HK bottles so I can let noobs try them. Muchas Gracias.
Made my triumphant return to Tijuana. The big spender was exactly where I last saw him when I left the west coast, in hk with his stacks. The girls were groping him, one girl was groping him and holding stacks of singles. Why does he have money like that but dress like he shops at Walmart. Actually every guy walking into cascadas tonight looked like a slob. People on the east coast dress better to go to the gym than people out here dress to go to Hong Kong. I bought 1 beer for a girl, she was so drunk she wouldn't even talk to me in Spanish. Just in her own world. After 15 minutes she just left. No goodbye. No 2nd drink request. Whatever.
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Senior Member
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I have my own room. Do not deal with cum boys.
Originally Posted by AerodinamicDog
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Including time downstairs or just time inside the room? Usually the cum boys start knocking at the 25 minutes mark or sometimes they forget but never had the room as long as an hour.
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Chicas' customer relation
Blackthoughts.
It's stupid HK does not have someone who coaches chicas how to deal with customers and the basic of hygiene. The Chinese had a training system that worked very well.
HK should have someone who can coach and train chicas in the arts of seduction and making love.
I volunteer for that job. I can train the chicas a few times every day, especially the new, fresh young pretty ones.
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Regular Member
Posts: 5
Originally Posted by BlackThought
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I cannot stand the inconsistency at HK club which is why I'm taking a break from Tijuana. Going to Frankfurt FKK club next month, so excited to fuck Eastern European beauties with fresh pussy and BBBJ standard.
FKK is the bomb. Koln has the best ones in my opinion.
All EE girls from all over are there for fucking and sucking.
Just did the termas in Brazil. Jesus christ I was in heaven.
Same concept. But those women holy fuck.
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Ueta duty-free liquors
You can walk across with liquors. Mexicans walk across with everything including milk, eggs, groceries.
Many duty free stores in San Ysidro. We usually go to one next to Burger King $50 DJ 70. The 2 uetas North of Ped West have the biggest inventories.
Tequilas are cheaper in the US side.
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Simpson69
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Can you walk across with duty free liquor or do you have to drive? Where is the cheapest / best store close to Hong Kong to get liquor such as don Julio 70?
Yes, you can bring back 1 bottle of liquor into the USA Duty free. I think there's a Walmart nearby.
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Posts: 107
Originally Posted by Rawrbomb
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In the end, I realized mistakes were made and lessons were learnt. I'm thinking of maybe going back in a week or two, but not have too much expectations this time around. I noticed that the women are not nearly as aggressive as the dancers in the states or in Vegas. Walking around and sitting around for 2 hours or so, I wasn't approached by a single chica. Either they all think I don't have money or too ugly or something. I do have a question about how you approach girls that are just sitting / standing on their phones. It's hard to get a good look as you're walking by them and it feels weird to just stop in front of one to check them out. I've read here in the forums that some other mongers have had their best experiences with girls who they approached, but damn, it'd be crazy expensive to spend a beer on every single chica that you talk to. My goal was (and I guess still is) to find a chica who's a typical 'bad girl', smokes, drinks, tats / piercings, kinda like your stereotypical porn star that's open to sexy fun but damn, how the hell do you vet from the crowd of 100+ chicas.
It's not a US bar. No need to buy her a drink and get to know her. A dollar gets you a grope. See woman, grope, tip dollar, start negotiations. Go upstairs or move on to the next one. Maybe get to know her if you become a regular or at least after physical things happen. I think a lot of women hate rejection so they don't bother with making approaches themselves.
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Regular Member
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Liquor
Originally Posted by CaptainSolo
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Jackie is on to something her.
Chicas would stand there with Fat Fuck but keep distance like coworkers, the same way they treat meseros. I have never seen girls squeeze or kiss Fat Fuck; he never touches, gropes, kisses or goes to hotel with any girls So he's not a monger, more likely a HK'ss employee.
The more I look into it this Fat Fuck is just phony actor doing HK's cheap theatrics to gouge more money from us, so I spend less money on drinks and tips, and get as many free drinks as I can. Guys with VIP cards should go for a free Don Julio 70, Patron Silver or 1800 Cristalino shot, costing $10-15 at the bar.
Patron Silver ($85 in store) is harsh, biting, strong Agave nose. Don Julio 70 ($70 in store) is a lot smoother with fruity fragrance, very popular with chicas in HK. But 1800 Cristalino ($55 in store) is even better than DJ 70, very smooth with a strong Agave nose and taste, slightly sweeter and fruitier.
Noob bought a 1800 Cristalino bottle ($38) at the UETA duty-free store in San Ysidro to party with HK girls in Cascada. 2 HK girls took 2 shots and fucked each other like rabbits; he does not drink alcohol so gave me the bottle. It turns out to be an outstanding liquor for my and HK girls' taste. I enjoy it a lot more than far more expensive Cognacs and Whiskeys..
Can you walk across with duty free liquor or do you have to drive? Where is the cheapest / best store close to Hong Kong to get liquor such as don Julio 70?
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Senior Member
Posts: 444
Treat your ATFs right by giving them money. Not just the agreed upon amount but extra money. On top of that give them gifts. Third participate in creating what the girl thinks is a fun atmosphere. I am certain my ATFs appreciate what I do for them. Some talks about marrying me. I think one is maybe serious.
While I think it is fun to do stuff outside the club and club hotels the most recent case of a girl getting murdered in Adelitas was done by an American who saw a girl outside the club and then killed a different girl in the hotel by the club. Do not think girls see doing things outside the club like you present in your post.
For me I am considering trying to leverage my extra money to options outside the clubs and their hotels. I get the clubs see the girls as employees and do not want them distracted from selling beers. The natural response of this is to see girls when they off work. There are some Tijuana / Mexico type responses to this that I do not think Mongers will like.
I do get who the line of thought it taking some down this path.
Originally Posted by Jackie888
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Gentlemen,
If you like your ATF, please treat her nice instead of treating her like a hooker. Please take her to a proper Love motel (like Premier, etc.) where rooms are rented at 4 hour intervals on the weekends instead of a shithole like Cascadas where the chicas are murdered every now an then and they nickels and dime you for every stupid thing. The Uber ride to these love motels, even in rush hour is under $10. The rooms are near Vegas quality. There are no convicts working as waiters. No con artists masquerading as managers. Cascadas sucks when compared to places outside the Zona Norte.
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Posts: 749
Originally Posted by Nothing24
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HK has the best looking girls but in my opinion you get your best bang for your buck at the other clubs, if you can find a female to your liking. My last 5 sessions at adelitas have all been home runs, 10/10 service. If you go late at night they have a good selection of newer females. During the daytime, not so much. Best of all, they dont automatically quote you 100 or something ridiculous like 150. On average I have been quoted 80, 100 max. But even the ones that ask for 100 are open to listen to a counter offer. In HK I tend to stick to girls I have already vetted myself or from recommendations from my fellow mongers. It's too risky to go upstairs with a brand new pick in HK, unless you don't value your money.
I cannot stand the inconsistency at HK club which is why I'm taking a break from Tijuana. Going to Frankfurt FKK club next month, so excited to fuck Eastern European beauties with fresh pussy and BBBJ standard.
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Originally Posted by Rawrbomb
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In the end, I realized mistakes were made and lessons were learnt. I'm thinking of maybe going back in a week or two, but not have too much expectations this time around. I noticed that the women are not nearly as aggressive as the dancers in the states or in Vegas. Walking around and sitting around for 2 hours or so, I wasn't approached by a single chica. Either they all think I don't have money or too ugly or something. I do have a question about how you approach girls that are just sitting / standing on their phones. It's hard to get a good look as you're walking by them and it feels weird to just stop in front of one to check them out. I've read here in the forums that some other mongers have had their best experiences with girls who they approached, but damn, it'd be crazy expensive to spend a beer on every single chica that you talk to. My goal was (and I guess still is) to find a chica who's a typical 'bad girl', smokes, drinks, tats / piercings, kinda like your stereotypical porn star that's open to sexy fun but damn, how the hell do you vet from the crowd of 100+ chicas.
If you're a newb, it's best to approach the girls. The sharky girls can smell a newb from a mile away and will hustle you. Sounds like they scammed you hard.
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