Hong Kong Club Reports

[Jinxx]

But, if you stand up to people down here, they'll back down the vast majority of the time. I can easily count on one hand the times anyone here (again, excluding cops and cartels) has backed me down on any dispute.

Ha! Then you haven't met my land lady. She's in her 60's and she's feisty. In Spanish you would say es bien brava. I've had a couple of issues with her though she likes me for the most part. I've seen her get into arguments with people and I've seen how she treats her day laborers she hires to help do maintenance on the property. You would not want to tangle with this lady LOL.

[OneInTheDugOut]

Can anyone help me out with the name of this girl. Here's a super vague description. Skinny, b cup, dark shoulderlength hair, huge round eyes with long eye lashes. Dance is both front and back stage, smoking hot. The eyes are key probably. With guys all Night last night, want to land her tonight.

Saw a cockroach the size of a half dollars crawl across the clear floor and or the main stage / stairs area. My buddy who is a construction guy says nobody should be standing there, it has to much give and will collapse eventually. Doubt it.

The place was packed, mostly 6-7's. The girl mentioned above the only 9 to be found. The new hanger was open. Foam show and me and one other guy were the only men in the room. Private show was nice.

[Babe Magnet]

The world is full of stupid, evil assholes taking advantage of, running over, abusing others.

Anywhere I travel, if I am not treated fairly and justly by anyone, I will press my issues, elevate my complaints to the proper authorities, and fight back in any overt or covert ways.

You are not doing yourself or anyone favors by shutting up, laying down and taking abuses. By fighting back and setting abusers straight, you will at least try to make them better persons and eventually things will improve for everyone.

I found even the worst abusers in the world would concede to facts and reasons, and respect you for them.

Exactly. That is the only way you can get their respect. You'll never get the respect of anyone by caving into their demands. It's unfortunate that US politicians can't seem to grasp this fact.

[Babe Magnet]

Yea but we were talking about complaining to the hotel staff about a chica giving crappy service. In my opinion a guy would have to be a complete whiny little be*tch to go crying to another grown man that a chica didn't give good service in the room.

Absolutely agree with you on that, Jinxx. Apparently, I misunderstood your point. I understood your comment in the context of people letting clerks and maseros run over them. I solve my own problems and certainly don't need hotel clerk to fight my battles.

And you claim you never hesitate to complain and "95% of the time you win". I'm not sure what your definition of the word "win" is. I remember your story about your grand battle royale with the Mexican border cops over the $30 tourist permit and I'm not sure that you can truly claim total victory on that one.

My definition of win is "I get my way". You are correct: the border crossing episode was a mixed-bag. I may have lost the battle but I won the war. I still got into Mexico with no paperwork and no money and that was my original objective. Also, that 95% I was quoting applies to "battles" with civilians. You're never going to win a battle against the cops or cartels here unless you are one.

I've noticed a very obvious difference in the way gringos react to complaints compared to the way Mexicans react to complaints. Gringos are more likely to take me serious and do what's necessary to make things right, whereas Mexicans seem more likely to have a "so what? F*ck you" or "wtf do you want me to do about it?" type attitude.

Yeah. The reason they don't take Americans seriously is what I posted before: the stupid, spineless, spendthrift stereotype that most Mexicans apply to Americans. You can just tell them you're Mexican (if they haven't figured that out already) but for me it's a re-education program every time. But, if you stand up to people down here, they'll back down the vast majority of the time. I can easily count on one hand the times anyone here (again, excluding cops and cartels) has backed me down on any dispute.

[Nothing24]

I had a great time overall on my three day trip last weekend. The total damage was about a grand, not including the flight, but including my hotel room, drinks, girls and food in Tijuana. I took 5 girls to my room total over the three days, all from HK. The girls I took to me were 8's, and the club girls were mostly 7's, with some 6's and 8's, and the occasional 9 or 10. There were about 200 girls working on Friday night, and maybe 50 on Saturday morning. Also the street had many lined up as well, as there is no shortage of women here. As I stated I took 5 to my room and had amazing experiences with 2, above average experiences with 2, and a so-so experience with 1. And this is from someone who in Germany lived in Brothels for a few years on the weekends..

The only other thing I would suggest is to keep an eye on the street action. Every now and then there's diamonds in the rough and you can end up having a great session for more than half of what you'll spend at HK. If you convert your currency to pesos you'll even end up with a greater deal. Street math in Tijuana is a whole different ball game. If you get quoted $30-40 USD for full service you could end up paying the equivalent of about $20 USD in pesos. Compared to what you pay and end up receiving at HK, it's a no brainer. Before I go inside HK I always make a couple rounds in the streets to scope out the talent. Then I go to HK for an hour or two and if nothing is going on I go back out and look again. Once in a while you'll find HK worthy talent for a fraction of the price out there and these girls are more open to suggestions than a spoiled HK girl. You would be surprised at what a promise for an extra $5-10 tip could get ya.

[JayGfla]

If you stay overnight, romance your favorite girls and ask them out for dinner. It's not expensive and they may stay overnight for small tokens. Keep a bottle of good tequila in the room and give them shots. Girls go sexually wild when they are loosened up.

HK day time has very few hot girls. It's a bore for guys who go often. Weekend night time may be crowded but has lots of hot new girls, some of the sweetest ones. I also make friends, party with locals and other bros. Some guys are really fun, give me good intels, sometimes introduce me to new girls, new ways of enjoying their sexuality.

Glad you had a good time. Would be interested in a comparison between Tijuana and sex scene in Germany.

Wow, great tips and thanks Captain! I definitely will have a bottle in the room next time I am down that's brilliant. I know this is an HK thread but I'll give you a little insight / compare and contrast vs. Germany since I have been to Brothels there a hundred times or so:

In Germany, the two main ways people get working girls are at the FKKs (Brothels) or through sites online. When you enter the FKK, you immediately are greeted and given a Robe to wear and key to a locker. You store your belongings, shower and then off you go to the main area, where there will be saunas, couches, a bar and girls walking around nude. There will usually also be a masseuse on duty as well, who can give a massage for 20 Euros or so. The majority of the girls in Germany believe it or not, are from Romania or another country. Only a small number will be from Germany. The high end FKKs are in Berlin and Frankfurt with hundreds of girls (7's-10's on a society scale) working on a typical Friday night, however some smaller ones are scattered around Germany as well. Entry is usually 20 Euros or so, with no drink minimum. As far as sex with a girl, prices start at 50 Euros for sex and BJ for 30 minutes. Anything extra BBBJ, CIM, DFK etc usually would tack on an extra 50 per item. Girls are competitive and usually give a good effort. If they see you often, like in my case, they give a better effort and compete. My friends and I usually would negotiate 1 HR with the girl, DFK, BBBJ for about 100 Euros and think that was a good deal, because it is. Occasionally we would hit a home run, which means you get three additions for less than 100. Also, same applies with gauging chemistry, as it is recommended to buy a woman a drink, talk to her, feel her, kiss her, etc to determine if she's worth the cash.

Lets Juxtapose with Tijuana:

In Tijuana, there are more girls in one compact area, as all the clubs, HK being the king, are co-located, quantifiably giving a monger access to an estimated 500+ Latin women on a Friday night. 80-100 USD is the typical rate for a club girl, maybe half of that for a street girl. Quality range is 5-9 on a general societal scale. Girls seem less likely on gaining a regular as it seems that Tijuana is traversed by enough 1st timers. I liken this to the Steak Restaurant 1 mile from the airport in a big city. It's more important for them to have a big sign, than to have the best steaks, because return business is not as much as first time business. Girls in Tijuana seem to want 100 USD. However, there is an approach you can take where you chat the girls up, tip and find girls you have natural chemistry with before you take her for a late night rendezvous. I did find 2 fantastic experiences out of 5, so I know it is possible. Most girls were pretty stern with the 100 price point and everything needed to be negotiated, as CBJ was not a given. Also, there are a few new girls that seemed to not really know what they were doing. I mean one, for example, I literally had to show her how to do a proper HJ and BJ, as she was being too rough.

In conclusion, they both have their pluses and minuses and it really boils down to the type of girl you are attracted to, to determine which world is your Heaven. Me, I love all women, so I think they are both hidden gems. Let's just hope that the next decades catalyst like OnlyFans, idiots getting their passports and control shifting from demand to supply, does not deflate service or inflate prices.

[CalvinReid0325]

Anyone visiting Tijuana this weekend, I'm flying in Saturday, anyone want a newbie wingman?

[ScottHall]

The entire HK is kind of a scam.

HK wouldn't even be that bad, if the girls actually gave a shit about their jobs LOL. You would think, after spending so much time and money on plastic surgery, the girls would feel compelled to deliver a nice service and keep customers happy. But they don't LOL. It's like entitlement and bitchiness is a female disease that cannot be cured. It's always just business business business. No customer satisfaction LOL. The putas are so stupid though. Because they don't realize that if they keep a whale with lots of money happy, then that whale will gladly shell out more and more money to them. They are so impulsive though and just want quick $100 arribas right now, with no foresight or thought as to what their reputation will be after the fact. It's dumb LOL.

Why monger at a place like this? Why monger at all actually. It's obvious most girls are just doing it for the money, and they don't give a shit about you. You're better off just jerking off to internet porn. Unless you enjoy torturing yourself at HK, grinding through a lot of scamming girls to find the occasional good one LOL. I would say that having crappy / mechanical sex is worse than having no sex at all. Doesn't matter how hot the girl is or what she looks like. If the service is crap or mediocre, then you're better off just staying home. Seriously, why bother. Can someone answer that question? If you can't even get a good reliable service, then why have sex? The whole point of sex is to have fun and a good time, and if you're getting stressed and scammed by these bitches, you may be better off remaining voluntary celibate and just jerking off. Live the rest of your life and enjoy it, don't stress out about stupid putas. There is a whole sea of these putas, unfortunately most of them are scams and rip offs. And some good, nice, respectable girls sprinkled into the mix. Is it worth the time, frustration, and money to find these sweet girls? Only to have them fall out of work due to other obligations, boyfriend, or something, so now you have to go back and grind through more putas to replace these girls? Is it really worth it, I would say it's not.

Maybe it's time to take a break from HK LOL. Are you gunning for trophy girls or something? I don't think many people are going to claim that HK is the place to go for good service. 30 minutes for a session is bad value. $100 for 30 minutes is awful value. I don't know what people expect. There's always amazing providers in this city away from HK. You just have do your due diligence.

[TerOnlyOnce]

I believe that many simply do not understand the value of investment. I noticed in HK last weekend a similar trend to when I was in Germany. The women you give full price quoted to (100 USD in HK or 50 EU in Germany) do not understand that they could potentially gain a regular, or a repeat customer. I can't tell you how many times I have had a chick give me awesome service, and literally went with her again after enjoying some drinks with her for a few hours. I think this concept goes over many of the girls' heads.

Someone said this before but the girls don't need regulars to survive, at all.

There is no shortage of Americans flying in from all over the country to go to HK. These girls can fleece these men for $100 per mediocre session all year round. It's a scam industry. The girls are simply trying to maximize profits and do less work. This is why some won't even do BJ when they are getting paid $100 which is ridiculous. Overall, I would not recommend. Maybe if you're abnormal and enjoy torturing yourself, sure go to HK regularly. But if you're a normal guy and just want some sex, you're better off sticking to jerking off to internet porn which will provide you a much more consistent experience, be less frustrating, and save you some money as a bonus. There's nothing to feel good about when you give your money to a scam industry, presented and ran similar to that of a casino. Remember, the house always wins.

If you can't even fuck these girls and enjoy it from a purely physical standpoint because there are too many scammers and business type / mechanical service girls in the mix. And basically zero of these girls respect the men there or have any sort of connection with them. Then why are you bothering to fuck these girls in the first place? Really ask yourself this question.

[Captain Solo]

JAYGFLA,

You learned quick and developed some very good strategies that the other noobs could learn from to get the best times in HK.

The best rule is to take your time, walk around the club and find girls who fit your needs. Pick the girls; don't let them pick you. If a girl come by to hit on you, just politely decline or give her a propina to send her away. There are usually only a few hundred other guys in the club she can hit on; you are not her only potential client. So stop feeling guilty saying no to all kinds of offers in HK.

Walk around the club, stop, give girls propinas, smile sweetly, talk to them and feel them up. If you find a girl who looks good, feel real, nice, sweet personality ect then they are worth inviting to a table for fichas to get to know them better. That would cut down on a lot of bad fichas and bad sessions in the hotel. Avoid girls who go around hitting on guys a lot or girls who hang together in groups. Those are usually hardened old timers who may not be so nice in bed. Look for girls who sit or stand by themselves, look a little lost or scared. Those are new girls who may be more real and give hotter, more personal sessions.

If you stay overnight, romance your favorite girls and ask them out for dinner. It's not expensive and they may stay overnight for small tokens. Keep a bottle of good tequila in the room and give them shots. Girls go sexually wild when they are loosened up.

HK day time has very few hot girls. It's a bore for guys who go often. Weekend night time may be crowded but has lots of hot new girls, some of the sweetest ones. I also make friends, party with locals and other bros. Some guys are really fun, give me good intels, sometimes introduce me to new girls, new ways of enjoying their sexuality.

Glad you had a good time. Would be interested in a comparison between Tijuana and sex scene in Germany.

[TomJackin]

As I am not expert in Tijuana. Yet.

Some things never change in Tijuana, but things do change enough to keep one guessing. Thus, becoming an expert would be quite a difficult task.

Thanks for the trip report; keep them coming.

[JayGfla]

Here is my theory on chica service relative to money. I think that they think $60-80 is a reasonable fee for their services, so they put in the effort. Lower than $60 they feel like they are getting rip off, so they are not going to enjoy themselves and they withhold pleasure. At $100, they think they got a scam going on and they cannot wait to end it early and get their ass back into the club to find another moron to scam.

I believe that many simply do not understand the value of investment. I noticed in HK last weekend a similar trend to when I was in Germany. The women you give full price quoted to (100 USD in HK or 50 EU in Germany) do not understand that they could potentially gain a regular, or a repeat customer. I can't tell you how many times I have had a chick give me awesome service, and literally went with her again after enjoying some drinks with her for a few hours. I think this concept goes over many of the girls' heads.

[JayGfla]

I had a great time overall on my three day trip last weekend. The total damage was about a grand, not including the flight, but including my hotel room, drinks, girls and food in Tijuana. I took 5 girls to my room total over the three days, all from HK. The girls I took to me were 8's, and the club girls were mostly 7's, with some 6's and 8's, and the occasional 9 or 10. There were about 200 girls working on Friday night, and maybe 50 on Saturday morning. Also the street had many lined up as well, as there is no shortage of women here. As I stated I took 5 to my room and had amazing experiences with 2, above average experiences with 2, and a so-so experience with 1. And this is from someone who in Germany lived in Brothels for a few years on the weekends.

Lessons I learned (I understand there are others these are just mine) :

1: When you first walk in to HK, walk around and scope the place out to save money. HK staff will try to bother you as you walk around, telling you not to stand in place or lean on a rail, to get you to sit down, so that the section waiter can bother you about buying drinks, or bring girls to you so that you buy them 9 dollar drinks, which probably are sweet tea.

2: Do not have a girl you do not like sit with you, simply tell her "no mas" or "no thank you" and make a hand gesture for her to go away. A girl that sits with you will certainly have a staff member right behind her asking you to buy her a drink. And you will be expected to tip the girl. Speaking of tipping, if you like the girl and you are making out, feeling on her, vibing, etc, only tip her 1's, about once every 3 or 4 minutes or less. Do not waste money. Remember you are trying to gauge chemistry, have a good time and get her to the room. I am saying this because after my trip, I realized that I spent too much on tipping on the floor. Also for you ant*ial types use the staff as a liaison for women. You literally can point a girl out to them, tip them a buck and they will bring her over.

3: Always negotiate what you want with the girl prior to taking her to your hotel room for play. Unlike Germany where I am used to mongering, BJ is not understood for the 100 you spend. 2/5 of the girls I played scrabble with didn't even do BJ at all. Also, its like buying a used car, you'll get a better deal when you do not need a car than when you walk onto the lot and need wheels. Devote 2-3 hours to just enjoy the club, and throw out 70-80 offers to the girls, you'd be surprised who will accept.

4: It's easier to deal in the daytime. The club was packed on Friday night, but on Saturday at 10 AM, maybe 1/4 of the girls were working but the M / F ratio was much better, and I had an easier time getting the girl I wanted, than on Friday when we were packed like sardines. Also, keep in mind that after the club closes, many girls go to the 10th floor of Cascadas, where great deals can be made.

5: Don't walk around on the street, or side streets at night. Talk to no-one on the streets, just keep walking when acknowledged. Safety is priority one.

I could have done the 3 day trip, with 5 girls for about 850 had I been stricter on tipping and drank less. But imo, 300-400 a day to play with some of the hottest women around is not a bad deal.

Please feel free to educate me if there are more lessons, or concur. As I am not expert in Tijuana. Yet.

[TerOnlyOnce]

This is why I'm glad I found places like Brazil and Germany. I'm used to getting good service in those countries. Otherwise, I probably never would have become a "monger".

Nice, I've mongered in Mexico, Canada, and the united states. From what I've seen, bichy and entitled girls is like a worldwide plague. No country is safe from it.

It's not a scam. You choose to enter and as an adult, it's on you how you choose to spend your money once inside. No one forces you to enter or pull the money out of your pocket.

There's definitely a learning curve, there are a lot of con artist women in Hong Kong, stay aware about that.

LOL. You sound really bitter. Did something in particular happen to you?

I had two awful sessions my past visit. The girls argued with me in the room and were super entitled and annoying. They were hot but had inflated egos. Was annoying.

Here is my theory on chica service relative to money. I think that they think $60-80 is a reasonable fee for their services, so they put in the effort. Lower than $60 they feel like they are getting rip off, so they are not going to enjoy themselves and they withhold pleasure. At $100, they think they got a scam going on and they cannot wait to end it early and get their ass back into the club to find another moron to scam.

Sounds kind of right in my experience. I've been to HK a decent amount of times and only had an opportunity at $60 for a session one time. Every other time has been at least $80. I never tried for $60 though, I would feel it's too embarrassing to mention $60 cause it could come off "too low" but that's just me.

I rarely do $100. I definitely agree that if a girl can get $100 off you then she is enjoying that a lot because it's good money for barely any work on her end. Especially if she asks to be paid upfront. It's like the icing on the cake for her, do not pay $100 at all costs, avoid avoid. I will say that the super super hot girls will be hard to get off $100, they may have convinced themselves that since they're one of the hottest in the club they are worth the highest price. So yeah, no point in trying to negotiate down unless you find one on a good day. I read this elsewhere on this board and it's true: the girls are testing your will. They are trying to make $100 the norm, if it already isn't the norm. They are trying for it because the plan is to keep pushing the limit on what guys will pay. Also, some girls do settle on $90 with me if they won't take $80. In end though all these HK girls are putas. Never forget that.

Why bother. Because some gals, especially street gals, give great service.

My experience is about 1 in 5 new girls I bring to the room give great service.

Once you find a great gal. You can skip the others and get repeat service.

So the treasure hunt is worth it because there are treasures out there.

Also, if you get longer sessions (1 HR or 2 HR) like I do then you can truly have a nice time, dirty dancing, etc.

It's still a grind at the end of the day. Even if you find the good girls, you may end up losing them due to them leaving town, or leaving work, or some other type of thing. Maybe these good girls turn sour down the line. You end up trying to replace these girls now.

I'd say a more accurate statistic is this: 1 out of 5 girls is great service, 3 out of 5 medicore, 1 out of 5 terrible. That's a decent amount of sessions to go through before you find great service. Not that many people want to stomach the frustration and annoyance, only to find good girls and having to replace them later on. It starts to become a job, consistent work with the hope of some reward. Kind of like a casino, drawing you in with the chance of winning.

I tip them $3 each way.

I am curious what do others tip the HK drivers for rides to / from the border?

Also, is Uber readily available for $2 each way or do you have to wait a long time?

Why are you guys tipping these HK drivers so much? Just get a DiDi to and from the border, it's like $2. DiDi is just another ride sharing app like uber, but for Mexico.

Not coming down on you bro. Just trying to be real.

You're surprised it's all about the money and quantity of sessions for an HK puta? Imma lay out a few basic rules of the game:

- no, you are not special. If a puta makes you feel that way, she's good at her job or hasn't had a crappy date that night. Yet.

- yes, it is about the money. Your money is as good as someone else's.

- no, they do not need to cultivate long-term customers. Great if they do but 99 pct of the dudes they go up with they'll never see again. They know this as well as you do.

Don't be pissed at the girl. This game is a gamble. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Part of the fun is you never know.

Yeah, it's like a casino basically. I stopped playing online poker because the amount of effort I'd need to put in would be a ton before I started getting any good. And the game wasn't that important to me to bear that much frustration and time into it.

Going to HK feels somewhat similar. It's a grind, and a gamble. And like I said earlier, even if you find good service girls, there's no telling whether you'll be able to keep those girls or not. Stuff happens.

I thought I'd heard some weird complaints, but yours is the topper. You know, if you enter the room, and then make a point of washing your hands before anything else, it goes a long way towards showing the girl you care a bit about hygiene.

I just need to tell it how it is. This is my interpretation and perspective of what has happened to me. People should know about this stuff. It's important for newcomers that are potentially interested in HK. I am giving the straight truth of what I have experienced.

Yea but we were talking about complaining to the hotel staff about a chica giving crappy service. In my opinion a guy would have to be a complete whiny little be*tch to go crying to another grown man that a chica didn't give good service in the room. Imagine telling the hotel desk guy "the chica wouldn't kiss me the way I like" or "her pussy didn't get wet and she didn't have any lube", or "she wouldn't spread her legs wide open or let me pound her doggy style because she said my cock was too big", or "she only sucked my cock for 30 seconds and was rushing me the whole time". Those hotel guys don't give a crap if a chica gives bad service. That's up to the monger himself to make sure he has chemistry with the chica before taking her to the room.

And you claim you never hesitate to complain and "95% of the time you win". I'm not sure what your definition of the word "win" is..

Yeah I tried to complain to the front desk at HK. Was no good. It does sound silly complaining about service from the girl to the front desk. Obviously they do not care. This is Mexico for christ sake, customer satisfaction and customer service does not exist here.

[Dogers69]

If the monger is not getting a room for the night I am not sure why the monger would buy a VIP Card.

If I go on weekends the VIP Card pays for itself in two visits with room discount + free drink. I am about to get my 4th visit on this VIP card.

Well the card was cheaper or it lasted a extra month, and until covid the discount was higher. For instance rooms were 11 or 12 dollars Monday Tuesday. I used to live in hk I felt like. I would go so much for the discount to avoid 70 dollar San Diego hotel. Then I would get 2 free beers, tell myself, HK just saved me 70 bucks, for coming here, and therefore, I must return the favor by blowing all of it on sex, or 50 of it on tips for girls and drinks for them, lap dances. I used to be on a tighter budget and things were cheaper until a 2 years ago. I would go to Mexico with 100 bucks get hotel food taxi, sex, beer for me and the girls, and go home with money. Don't tell the girls that 100 bucks American is really worth about 70 now since Biden and trump printed all that money.