Hong Kong Club Reports

[RimmDigger]

A hot little HK chica with big natural boobs, yummy.

Hey Keg!

You really know how to get the thread back on track!

[Keg]

A hot little HK chica with big natural boobs, yummy.

[Phordphan]

I think you guys are missing the point. Our current security situation puts fighting terrorism as the very highest priority and far above convenience at border crossings, privacy, etc. So they reward people who are willing to provide extra background information with the shortest wait (SENTRI). Next come people who have documentation with a computer chip inside so that they can more easily be checked against databases (Ready Lane). Everyone else is lumped together because they need more scrutiny.

I don't agree with it but that's the reality of the situation.

And yet, TSA has never foiled a terrorist plot. My SENTRI and GOES interviews seemed to me to mostly concentrate on potential drug smuggling, based on the kinds of questions they asked. BTW the war on drugs has been another in a long string of government failures.

I really don't feel any safer now, with the 60 year old Filipino CBP agent asking if I have anything to declare, than I did when you could practically cross and recross the border at will.

In other words, Uncle Stupid's "we're protecting you from the evil terrorists" line is complete bullshit and wearing very thin.

[Leo Ryder]

I think you guys are missing the point. Our current security situation puts fighting terrorism as the very highest priority and far above convenience at border crossings, privacy, etc. So they reward people who are willing to provide extra background information with the shortest wait (SENTRI). Next come people who have documentation with a computer chip inside so that they can more easily be checked against databases (Ready Lane). Everyone else is lumped together because they need more scrutiny.

I don't agree with it but that's the reality of the situation.

However I think the discussion was about weather a US born citizen should get preferential treatment over others (foreigners and naturalized US citizens like Arnold Schwarzenegger) at the US customs. The technical part of it is a well published and well known policy for years since 911.

[Escort4Us]

Every international airport I've been to has separate lines for US citizens / residence.

Next time, fly.

[JPF]

I do realize the set-up is to get people who cross frequently (mostly for business) through quickly. Still, US citizens should not have to wait in the longest line. Every international airport I've been to has separate lines for US citizens / residence.

Waiting in the line, it just struck me as very strange how difficult it is to get back into my own country. Do I really have to wait in a long and slow line along with those with just a Visa visiting for the first time?

I think you guys are missing the point. Our current security situation puts fighting terrorism as the very highest priority and far above convenience at border crossings, privacy, etc. So they reward people who are willing to provide extra background information with the shortest wait (SENTRI). Next come people who have documentation with a computer chip inside so that they can more easily be checked against databases (Ready Lane). Everyone else is lumped together because they need more scrutiny.

I don't agree with it but that's the reality of the situation.

[Leo Ryder]

Honestly, this country is way too fair. I'm sure 90% of the people able to use the short line were not US born citizens. No other country would treat foreigners better than their own citizens. Part of the problem was crossing at 8:00pm. In the future, I'll be crossing after 11:00pm.

I think the "fairness" you are talking about is the the beauty and strength of this country. I believe we need more of that. Everyone can apply for a sentry or global entry if you want to use the fast track. I have been to many countries where they treat foreigners like "gods" while their own citizens like "dirt". The United States is certainly not one of them. Many foreigners get unfair treatment and some are brutalized and even killed. Some incidents happened recently right here at the San Ysidro border crossing. Racial profiling by the LE and CBP is far from unheard of.

[Phordphan]

I do realize the set-up is to get people who cross frequently (mostly for business) through quickly. Still, US citizens should not have to wait in the longest line. Every international airport I've been to has separate lines for US citizens / residence.

Waiting in the line, it just struck me as very strange how difficult it is to get back into my own country. Do I really have to wait in a long and slow line along with those with just a Visa visiting for the first time? It actually hurts Mexico and their citizens in the long run since I'll think twice about crossing over for a short visit if I have to wait 1. 5 hours to cross back over.

You are absolutely correct. The US treats its good citizens like criminals, and its criminals like valued treasures. Every other country I can think of has short lines for their own citizenry.

Now having said that, there are photos at the beginning of the line that explains the documents required. The "Ready Lane" is for people with some sort of RFID identification, which for us is usually a passport card. I don't think that includes the new RFID passports, but I'm not positive. Then there is the SENTRI line and the regular line. AFAIK, all passports have to languish in the longest line.

[Maila]

I have been going every weekend for the last month to HK. First time was in Sept. Stayed over one 3 day weekend. Its gone to the point where most of the SG's and PM shift HK girls recognize me. I recognize all the clicks within the club now as well. Make friends with some Meseros = makes finding gems in the club easier.

You're right, of course. Next time I go, I will hold on to English-speaking meseros as well as the girls.

[Keg]

I'll think twice about crossing over for a short visit if I have to wait 1. 5 hours to cross back over.

Thanks for posting a trip report. See you in another 5 years?

(Just busting your chops a little)

But seriously, as a seasoned traveller I'm sure you would agree that when presented with several line options, it's always best to ask someone for info. I've personally seen many unknowing visitors ask the CBP staff when they weren't clear on which line to be waiting in.

[Kdog]

"I have clue what that means, but I figure a US BORN CITIZEN with a US PASSPORT wouldn't have to wait in the longest line."

Question.

Do you see a difference between a US BORN CITIZEN and a US CITIZEN?

The different crossing gates (regular, ready and sentri) are by no means based on nationality, and are not intended for that. They make the differentiation based on what kind of document you have, regardless of your nationality or where you were born.

I do realize the set-up is to get people who cross frequently (mostly for business) through quickly. Still, US citizens should not have to wait in the longest line. Every international airport I've been to has separate lines for US citizens / residence.

Waiting in the line, it just struck me as very strange how difficult it is to get back into my own country. Do I really have to wait in a long and slow line along with those with just a Visa visiting for the first time? It actually hurts Mexico and their citizens in the long run since I'll think twice about crossing over for a short visit if I have to wait 1. 5 hours to cross back over.

[RimmDigger]

"I have clue what that means, but I figure a US BORN CITIZEN with a US PASSPORT wouldn't have to wait in the longest line."

Question.

Do you see a difference between a US BORN CITIZEN and a US CITIZEN?

The different crossing gates (regular, ready and sentri) are by no means based on nationality, and are not intended for that. They make the differentiation based on what kind of document you have, regardless of your nationality or where you were born.

[Kdog]

Five years from my last visit and a lot has changed. I wasted a lot of time going back and forth over the bridge trying to find the pedestrian enterence to Mexico. I would have expect the US to make it more clear. There were signs, but they were signs you would only notice when you realized you were lost. When I did cross, it was business as usual getting in a taxi and heading to HK. I wasn't sure what the rate is, so I gave $6 and the driver seemed fine. I figure it's better than asking and having them make-up a number.

Arrived at HK around 4:00pm. There were some decent options, but mostly they were 5's and 6's.

The good:

- Saw a guy tipping $1 to lick pussy and nobody batted an eye. Pretty cool.

- The soap show was cool. Finger a failry hot chick for $1.

- A "7" came up and started making out with me. I tipped her a few dollars and felt her up and down too. Good deal.

- The waiters were not a problem. I only order from the bar and when they ask me to buy a drink for a girl, I'd say "no way" and they'd scurry away. They were more difficult to deal with in past visits. Maybe they could read me a little better.

The bad:

- The hottest chick in the bar teamed up with a "5". The "5" would feel-up the guy and ask for a tip while the hot chick would just pose in front. The "5" was really hard to ditch.

- The best looking women were not giving a test drive. I guess that's the natural order of things, but I'll never spend $80 to find out where or not a girl's going to be fun.

OK, so I get to the border figuring US born citizens with US passports would have preference. I wait in the shortest line (5 min) hoping for the best, they tell me go to the "middle two lines". No problem, it's some sort of a special access line. The middle line says something like "Ready Access". I have clue what that means, but I figure a US BORN CITIZEN with a US PASSPORT wouldn't have to wait in the longest line. I was wrong, after 20 mintues, I'm sent to the back of the long line. Finally after another hour and waiting through numerous "border employee" breaks, I'm through. Honestly, this country is way too fair. I'm sure 90% of the people able to use the short line were not US born citizens. No other country would treat foreigners better than their own citizens. Part of the problem was crossing at 8:00pm. In the future, I'll be crossing after 11:00pm.

[Maelstrom]

I have to say that Hong Kong was one of the most fun places I have been to. It was the girls, pounding music. Crazy stuff! The girls just hang around without saying anything. Apart from the language barrier, it's a really fun place to be at. Can't believe I cannot be there far more often.

I have been going every weekend for the last month to HK. First time was in Sept. Stayed over one 3 day weekend. Its gone to the point where most of the SG's and PM shift HK girls recognize me. I recognize all the clicks within the club now as well. Make friends with some Meseros = makes finding gems in the club easier.

[El Lobo Solo]

On my second day trip to Tijuana, I have to say that Hong Kong was one of the most fun places I have been to. It was the girls, pounding music. Crazy stuff! The girls just hang around without saying anything. Apart from the language barrier, it's a really fun place to be at. Can't believe I cannot be there far more often.

Hey Maila thanks for a great report. I have been to a lot of far distance places but have yet to check out my own back yard. Your report gives me a bit of confidence and I think I might try out Tijuana.