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[AmericanPi]

Part I: The Club.

This is the opposite of me. I don't negotiate anything. It just kills the vibe to say, "I want x and why and you better be like z" as though you were ordering a pizza or something. I'll take my chances with a bad experience if I have to, but I don't negotiate.

Instead, what I do is study the girls beforehand. I might need to see a girl 2 or 3 times at the club on previous visits before I make my move. I watch how they interact with other girls, other guys, and their demeanor in general. I also try to visit the club consistently enough that my presence is known to the girls, and they know that can't mess with me because I'll be coming back next week. Also, if they know you're a regular, they might see you as a source of potential steady income, which also gives you an advantage. HK belongs to me, not to them. It's my house, and they are just passing through. This is the attitude you have to take. Of course, I realize you can't do this if you just visit once in a while.

Dawg. Your message. Your handle / screen name. Your process no doubt works great but most people cannot be a presence at HK nearly as much as you seem to be able to. Honestly I wouldn't want to but to each his own. Every time I go to HK I feel like how you feel about Vegas. It's fun for a while but it gets old fast. But 3-6 months later I want to go again. How often are you there?

[HK Monger]

One thing I do, and I'm ashamed sharing this but it's anonymous here so what the hell. When I'm assessing a girl I ask her what is it going to be like when we go up. And then I basically tell her how I expect her to be, essentially extracting commitments on her demeanor (and obviously sexual experience to be had). I've done it enough times that I know what I'm requiring. The last thing I want is a starfish who realizes she's getting her buck twenty either way once you've tipped the robe guy. All negotiating, even down to the demeanor I expect from her, must be done before the words ok let's go up escape your mouth. Once you utter those words the power balance shifts. Before you utter those words you can just shamelessly describe your expectations. Some girls do the sour look like they're telling me you're getting pussy not an actress. And I take that as a win, because that's almost certainly a girl who'd be a disengaged sourpuss in the room.

Part I: The Club.

This is the opposite of me. I don't negotiate anything. It just kills the vibe to say, "I want x and why and you better be like z" as though you were ordering a pizza or something. I'll take my chances with a bad experience if I have to, but I don't negotiate.

Instead, what I do is study the girls beforehand. I might need to see a girl 2 or 3 times at the club on previous visits before I make my move. I watch how they interact with other girls, other guys, and their demeanor in general. I also try to visit the club consistently enough that my presence is known to the girls, and they know that can't mess with me because I'll be coming back next week. Also, if they know you're a regular, they might see you as a source of potential steady income, which also gives you an advantage. HK belongs to me, not to them. It's my house, and they are just passing through. This is the attitude you have to take. Of course, I realize you can't do this if you just visit once in a while.

I don't like to make my approach too early in the evening. I find that the girls get more relaxed (and the waiters also) later in their shift. I don't care about being a girls first customer, or getting her when she is fresh. In fact, I like it when I will be her only of the evening, or at least her last. I also don't like to approach girls when the club is too crowded. I like it when it's the early hours of the morning and it has died down a bit. That's when the fun really begins.

I always go alone (except when I've gone with girlfriends from Tijuana). Other dudes would just get in the way and slow me down. I'm there to meet women, not dudes. There are many places in Tijuana to party and get drunk, so It's not my thing to do that in HK.

I try to look for newer girls. This is the one sport where amateurs are always better than pros. I like them skinny with a natural body. No plastic. Not too tiny. Not too much of a doll face. I like girls that are "off-pretty" in the face, or that have a face that has character. I have a thing against girls wearing glasses. These girls either want to be "taken seriously" or "create a barrier" (or they are a lesbian). None of these is a good thing. I don't like girls that wear to much: again, creating a barrier. I don't mind a few tats, but if you are covered in tats, that's a big red flag. I don't like girls that look mean. A lot of these girls walk around pouting the whole night, looking like death warmed over. Even if they are hot, these types are just not approachable, IMO. A girl needs to show some warmth, and look like she is at least having a little bit of fun. I like them maybe a little bit shy, not overly confident. I look for traits that indicate she will be more submissive and willing in the room.

At some point I will just approach a girl and ask her if she want's to come join me at a table. I never ask a waiter to call a girl over. In fact, I avoid waiters whenever possible. Mostly, I just roam the club during the course of the evening. I rarely even sit down because I don't like being approached by either waiters or girls (its just not in a young attractive woman's DNA to approach any male, so you tend to get the older, desperate ones coming up to you! I might sit down later when the club cools down a bit and there are more empty seats.

I like to sit with the girls near the back where it's more chill. I don't like the areas near the main stage where the show-offs are buying their 10 bottles of overpriced Patron. I usually have just a few drinks with a girl before deciding whether to go to the room. I feel like, if you want to socialize with her all night, you should just get her number and ask her to do something with you outside the club. If she speaks English too well, she's been working there to long. If her voice is too deep or sounds haggard, she's been working there too long. If she's too pushy, it's off. If she seems nice and humble, it's on. I speak a little Spanish, or at least can understand what they say. I try to keep the topics upbeat. I like to find out a little about their lives. If they are from Tijuana, what they do for fun, etc. One side note: In my years of coming to Tijuana, I have noticed a curious difference between Mexican girls and American girls, Mexican girls NEVER ask what you do for a living! At least not until they have known you a little bit. But it's never part of the opening conversation. You go to an American club and the first words out of a girl's mouth are, "so what do you do?" Like, I need to know your socio-economic level right away so I don't waste time with you. The attitude in the US is that a man's life is his job-kind of lame if you ask me.

I don't necessarily try to grope the girls, or kiss them. I find that that really isn't a good indicator of what is too come. If I'm getting good signals, I will invite them to come with me to the room. I don't ask the price, nor do I say what I will pay. It's Ok if they quote a price at that time, unless it is too high, then I might balk or might say I only have this much. What I have found though, is that the girls, a lot of time, will just go with no mention of price. What I'm about to say may sound arrogant, but I can attest that it is true. If you are a decent looking white guy, intelligent, but not a nerd, you can pretty much run the table with these girls. For a lot of these girls, it's an ego boost for them to be with you. Because you are perceived as both high status and exotic, it's like a natural aphrodisiac for these women. So I have found that majority of the girls want to have sex anyway, and I kind of view any money exchanged as simply the social lubricant that makes nature take its course faster.

Part II: The Room (coming soon).

[Nothing24]

Hello, newbie here. I'm deciding to make my first trip out to HK to get some Chinese food.

Upon doing some research, I heard that the room management will come knocking on your door if your Chicka goes past her 30-min mark in your room, even if you have the room for the night. I guess they demanded for the person to buy $50 in drinks for 30 more minutes, for $100 for the hour.

For someone who has been recently, can anyone confirm? It sounds a bit unfair that they come knocking on your door after the 30 minutes even if the girl doesn't mind staying longer.

TIA.

If you get an HK girl during her working hours you can get them to stay 60 minutes in your room. Sometimes they do it on their own because they don't mind hanging out with you, with others you might have to negotiate to get that extra 30 minutes. But if you have your own room you're not going to get a knock until the 60 minute mark. I have been able to get up to 90 minutes due to either the girl not caring or the employees in charge of knocking on the doors are slacking off. Most times you will get the knock at the 60 minute mark though. Alternatively you can get an extra 30 minutes on top of your 60 minutes if you order a $50 bucket. You might have to tip the girl extra if she’s looking to get compensated for the extra time as well.

If you want a girl to stay longer than that you're going to have to get her to visit you on her day off or see her at another hotel.

[Baxter Slade]

While I'm no fan of HK, its about the only place to hangout on a Sunday morning. As it got closer to noon the girls were flowing in, they even started to outnumber meseros and customers. I would never dream of taking an HK girl up due to the inflated prices. When a nice looking chica approached, I did get that she could be fun vibe I bought her a drink (confirmed fichas are $11 now). When the conversation turned to the vrooom, I asked what about a bee j only? I was a bit surprised when she said 50 . Never heard that one for under 100 for a trip to the room. I said lets go and she was great, took her time and didn't ask for payment upfront. Finally an intelligent HK chica who realized sometimes its not worth it to just stand around not making anything.

[BigButtDetecto]

I spent the whole afternoon and evening I hgkg yesterday, Sunday. The game was endless and all the gringos were packing the club sitting on their butt for hours. There were plenty of girls available but the guys were glued to the screens. I asked one or 2 girls their rates; it was $ 150 plus $ 40 for the room; I said fuck that; and then I took a spinner in the privado for 20 minutes; it was great and cost me only $50 + $10 tip.

The problem is that since adelita's shut down, hkg do what exagerated prices they want; no real competitor.

[BrotherMouzone]

One thing I do, and I'm ashamed sharing this but it's anonymous here so what the hell. When I'm assessing a girl I ask her what is it going to be like when we go up. And then I basically tell her how I expect her to be, essentially extracting commitments on her demeanor (and obviously sexual experience to be had). I've done it enough times that I know what I'm requiring. The last thing I want is a starfish who realizes she's getting her buck twenty either way once you've tipped the robe guy. All negotiating, even down to the demeanor I expect from her, must be done before the words ok let's go up escape your mouth. Once you utter those words the power balance shifts. Before you utter those words you can just shamelessly describe your expectations. Some girls do the sour look like they're telling me you're getting pussy not an actress. And I take that as a win, because that's almost certainly a girl who'd be a disengaged sourpuss in the room.

While I don't do that myself, I don't see anything to be ashamed about or otherwise wrong with setting expectations. Though maybe the "demeanor" thing is a bit much, either the chica will be into it or she won't be. I'm never going to ask her to be fake about it, LOL. At least for me it comes off as a bit demanding / controlling, but to each his own.

I suppose I take a more passive approach. Generally sit or stand near the bar and wait for chicas to approach me. Obviously it's not always the case but the chicas willing to approach you are generally a bit more likely to be "engaged" during arriba. More often than not I also buy chicas who approach me that I think I might be interested in a drink or two to further evaluate, during which you can often get at least a decent read on how good they will be in the room.

[Flawless Zeal]

I basically tell her how I expect her to be,

I'll bite -- what do you tell her your expectations are?

[Captain Solo]

Keto talks about waves potential and particles. He's potentially a real professor of Physics at Cal Tech!

If the girls allow you to kiss mouth, finger snatch in the club, they would go all out in bed, works for me 100%. Girls who resist always turn into angry girls in bed.

Sometimes I had to have my hand inside their panties while the damn particulate meseros hovered over and watched, just to make sure I would not waste my time and money on a dead, cold, stiff corpse with stinky pussies in the HK morgue.

A lot of discussion on trying to navigate around HK's deteriorating level of service, with rabid meseros and drink charges, etc.

I think the goal should somehow be to avoid sitting with any chica, if its possible that is. Just hang out on your own, with one drink to sip on for a half hour. Just take her up if one approaches you.

In the first minute. (it's usually exactly at the sixty-one second mark that the mesero materializes from the wave potential of matter, to particle in front of you).

[AmericanPi]

One pattern that I've seen over and over, that has rang true, were that the chicas who had a frustrated, almost beat down look in their eye when they approached me as soon as I walk in to hk (as if their look said: "you're going to pass me over too "). Have *all* been great in the cama. Best looking? No. Fun?, fook yeah.

One thing I do, and I'm ashamed sharing this but it's anonymous here so what the hell. When I'm assessing a girl I ask her what is it going to be like when we go up. And then I basically tell her how I expect her to be, essentially extracting commitments on her demeanor (and obviously sexual experience to be had). I've done it enough times that I know what I'm requiring. The last thing I want is a starfish who realizes she's getting her buck twenty either way once you've tipped the robe guy. All negotiating, even down to the demeanor I expect from her, must be done before the words ok let's go up escape your mouth. Once you utter those words the power balance shifts. Before you utter those words you can just shamelessly describe your expectations. Some girls do the sour look like they're telling me you're getting pussy not an actress. And I take that as a win, because that's almost certainly a girl who'd be a disengaged sourpuss in the room.

[StreamFlyer]

Hello, newbie here. I'm deciding to make my first trip out to HK to get some Chinese food.

Upon doing some research, I heard that the room management will come knocking on your door if your Chicka goes past her 30-min mark in your room, even if you have the room for the night. I guess they demanded for the person to buy $50 in drinks for 30 more minutes, for $100 for the hour.

For someone who has been recently, can anyone confirm? It sounds a bit unfair that they come knocking on your door after the 30 minutes even if the girl doesn't mind staying longer.

TIA.

[Rambo1969]

Just hang out on your own .... if one approaches you ...In the first minute. (it's usually exactly at the sixty-one second mark that the mesero materializes from the wave potential of matter, to particle in front of you).

Love that statement about meseros materializing from the wave potential of matter.

One of the time funniest & smarted lines in the forum.

[Captain Solo]

Hi Rambo.

Good to hear your views in this forum.

Asia has lots of nice, clean, beautiful girls who act nice, honest, feminine, classy, unlike countries where girls are cold, greedy, dishonest, mercenary.

For a taste of hot, passionate sex, take hot girls to bed is Asia places I reported, have them caress your dick lovingly, squeeze you tight like an octopus, suck your tongue out, ram their crotches onto yours, pussies gripping your dick as they pull out, fuck your brains out, gasping, moaning, to satisfy their own lust.

Welcome back Captain. Missed your funny posts in this forum when you were visiting Asia.

[KetoAndKettle]

A lot of discussion on trying to navigate around HK's deteriorating level of service, with rabid meseros and drink charges, etc.

I think the goal should somehow be to avoid sitting with any chica, if its possible that is. Just hang out on your own, with one drink to sip on for a half hour. Just take her up if one approaches you.

In the first minute. (it's usually exactly at the sixty-one second mark that the mesero materializes from the wave potential of matter, to particle in front of you).

That a chica approaches you, do all your intuitional work, feel into the situation, and if a yes, just go directly to arriba. Saves times and dinero.

But you need to have an enhanced power of intuition that she's going to be arriba-worthy, somehow, since you're not spending all that sit-in-a-booth money on her.

I'm not offering much value here. Just stating the obvious.

It's tough for me to resonate with gringos who put a lot of value on hotness. They want the hottest ones to approach them.

I've been with hk chicas that so many have passed over (I observe it happening while I'm off on my own, sipping on a single drink to the dismay of the meseros LOL). And those chicas have been excellent experiences. Try it, have fun of it, make it a game.

One pattern that I've seen over and over, that has rang true, were that the chicas who had a frustrated, almost beat down look in their eye when they approached me as soon as I walk in to hk (as if their look said: "you're going to pass me over too "). Have *all* been great in the cama. Best looking? No. Fun?, fook yeah.

[BrotherMouzone]

HK chica had the nerve to ask me for $30 thousand dollars to get her out of the club. What an entitled *****. Who do these girls think they are. Does she not realize she's a 42 yo prostitute in Tijuana that makes a living sucking hairy penises because she has no other job skills. I obviously said no and then I received a barrage of angry comments and insults regarding my character and sex performance. Word of advice to other mongers. Never give money other than what you pay for in the club. They're spiders and have no qualms about trying to take your hard earned resources for themselves.

Despite their situation in life as prostitutes, most of these chicas aren't stupid and over time develop a strong sense of which men they can extract $$$ out of. There's probably some sort of plausible reason why she thought she had some short of shot at squeezing thousands out of you. IIRC, you've talked a few times on these boards about blowing thousands of $$$ outside of the club supporting either one or multiple hookers. No offense at all to you but it may be the case that you've been pegged by some chicas (or at least this one chica) as someone they can sucker that amount of money out of. HK chicas don't just walk around asking their clients for that sum of money without rhyme or reason, LOL.