Hong Kong Club Reports

[Cocr Brotheler]

Cascadas and the other hotels need to start making copies of ID's for short term rooms. If it saves even 1 chica's life it is worth the hassle.

Me three and I do care (more).

Thinking also maybe she involved with drugs selling and did not produce profit so cartel caught up to her??

[AmorPorFavor]

Cascadas and the other hotels need to start making copies of ID's for short term rooms. If it saves even 1 chica's life it is worth the hassle.

[BrotherMouzone]

In terms of the homicide who knows what actually happened but lets say some crazy dude killed the girl. In no way could I see where the hotel would be responsible. Lets say they require ID's. Like some guy isn't just going to get a fake ID. How long it takes to kill someone? Like security could have done anything if they went around doing bedroom checks every 15 minutes? It's just absurd. There is a saying that goes "One of the hardest things in life is determining what you are and are not responsible for". This one is a no-brainer.

I'm thinking murders at those clubs tend to be spontaneous / impulsive, not pre-planned. Given that, IDs I think are a decent preventative measure (better than nothing at least). If a guy knows his ID is on file or at least has been checked, he'll nearly always think twice about committing any act of violence. Requiring IDs won't prevent ALL violence obviously (don't think it would've stopped that ex-Rutgers basketball player last year for example from murdering that girl at Adelitas) but I do think it would be at least somewhat effective.

Now. How about the Las Vegas hotel during that country concert that the guy had time to barricade himself in the room. Some crazy guy could have pulled it off in probably one day but I bet now housekeeping needs to get into every room every day. It's Ludacris.

Yeah, the consequences of that incident irked me. I stayed in Vegas (Caesars) several months after this happened. Back then if you went even a day without housekeeping, security would knock on your door the next day and do a quick "welfare check" of your room to make sure everything was OK LOL. That was extremely annoying as I'm the type who nearly always declines housekeeping service. But since COVID they've done away with that and most Vegas hotels (and probably hotels across the country) have decreased housekeeping service (largely due to COVID concerns).

[BrotherMouzone]

I was at Cascadas / Hong Kong last night and brought a girl up and wanted to do all night with her. After 30 or 60 min a waiter knocked saying I had to buy drinks for us.

The girl explained the following points.

1 - if she stays past the hour Hong Kong (not Cascadas) fines her.

2 - the meseros will knock every hour until her shift is over. Which would total about 300 to the club in drinks.

3 - the total cost would be her fee plus 300 to the club for all night.

Is there any way around this? Last summer when I came a girl stayed all night and no hassle. This girl said it's a new thing. Does anyone know how to maybe get around this? I have a few ideas that I'd like you to chime in on.

1 - get a girl at the end of her shift? That way she's "done?

2 - tip the waiter x dollars and say don't come back till tomorrow?

3 - get a room somewhere else (the girl said if I took her to the tropical hotel they would also require drinks).

4 - get a "short stay" room but then take the girl to my overnight room. That way when they knock the room is empty and they go away and they never knock on the "right" room.

Thoughts? How does Hong Kong know if a girl returns to the club? Do they clock in and out each time they go up and return?

Would love to figure out best way to get a girl all night without the headache of basically double paying.

If you're staying at Cascadas, best thing to do is to probably get her off shift (end of her shift or some other time). Don't know if you're aware but there have been a couple deaths of HK girls within the past couple of weeks, one or both of them being murdered by customers in Cascadas. I'd assume that's led to stricter enforcement of rules which might explain what happened to you here. Also possible the girl was using her explanation as an excuse to either not spend the night or for you to have to shell out more dough.

[Captain Solo]

2 weeks ago a wingman stayed with a HK girl for 4 hours, nobody knocks. I checked on him at about 1 AM. He was still trying to screw the girl.

I know girls who went out to dinner with guys for a few hours, no mention of any penalty by the bar.

I think girls likely pull stupid club rules on new guys to make more money. Their mesero BFs would be just so happy to help.

[Gregyyr]

See this is the type of comment that will eventually get Zona Norte shut down. The conservatives or if someone wants to develop Zona Norte into condos will use this excuse. But Crime happens in every bedroom in every town everyday in every country. Not just Hong Kong bedrooms. I can tell you for certain more people get killed in church or schools than in brothels every year. Men have a tendency to be violent. Drunk men, in some cases have a tendency to be violent. This has nothing to do with HK.

In terms of the homicide who knows what actually happened but lets say some crazy dude killed the girl. In no way could I see where the hotel would be responsible. Lets say they require ID's. Like some guy isn't just going to get a fake ID. How long it takes to kill someone? Like security could have done anything if they went around doing bedroom checks every 15 minutes? It's just absurd. There is a saying that goes "One of the hardest things in life is determining what you are and are not responsible for". This one is a no-brainer.

Now. How about the Las Vegas hotel during that country concert that the guy had time to barricade himself in the room. Some crazy guy could have pulled it off in probably one day but I bet now housekeeping needs to get into every room every day. It's Ludacris.

Just my. 02 worth.

G.

[Buckster23]

Tell her to come up after her shift then tell the waiter to F Off.

Apparently she claims they take it out on the girl. Like if I told him to F off and she stayed. He would track how many hours she was out. Times the drinks cost. Then they'd charge her that amount effectively negating whatever I give her.

[Baxter Slade]

I was at Cascadas / Hong Kong last night and brought a girl up and wanted to do all night with her. After 30 or 60 min a waiter knocked saying I had to buy drinks for us.

The girl explained the following points.

1 - if she stays past the hour Hong Kong (not Cascadas) fines her.

2 - the meseros will knock every hour until her shift is over. Which would total about 300 to the club in drinks.

3 - the total cost would be her fee plus 300 to the club for all night.

Is there any way around this? Last summer when I came a girl stayed all night and no hassle. This girl said it's a new thing. Does anyone know how to maybe get around this? I have a few ideas that I'd like you to chime in on.

1 - get a girl at the end of her shift? That way she's "done?

2 - tip the waiter x dollars and say don't come back till tomorrow?

3 - get a room somewhere else (the girl said if I took her to the tropical hotel they would also require drinks).

With the new crackdown (was more lax before) best solution is arrange it during her off time. Also a great idea to get a nice room outside the zona. The girl will appreciate that.

[Artisttyp]

I was at Cascadas / Hong Kong last night and brought a girl up and wanted to do all night with her. After 30 or 60 min a waiter knocked saying I had to buy drinks for us.

The girl explained the following points.

1 - if she stays past the hour Hong Kong (not Cascadas) fines her.

2 - the meseros will knock every hour until her shift is over. Which would total about 300 to the club in drinks.

3 - the total cost would be her fee plus 300 to the club for all night.

Is there any way around this? Last summer when I came a girl stayed all night and no hassle. This girl said it's a new thing. Does anyone know how to maybe get around this? I have a few ideas that I'd like you to chime in on.

1 - get a girl at the end of her shift? That way she's "done?

2 - tip the waiter x dollars and say don't come back till tomorrow?

3 - get a room somewhere else (the girl said if I took her to the tropical hotel they would also require drinks).

4 - get a "short stay" room but then take the girl to my overnight room. That way when they knock the room is empty and they go away and they never knock on the "right" room.

Thoughts? How does Hong Kong know if a girl returns to the club? Do they clock in and out each time they go up and return?

Would love to figure out best way to get a girl all night without the headache of basically double paying.

Tell her to come up after her shift then tell the waiter to F Off.

[ClownDays]

I was at Cascadas / Hong Kong last night and brought a girl up and wanted to do all night with her. After 30 or 60 min a waiter knocked saying I had to buy drinks for us.

The girl explained the following points.

1 - if she stays past the hour Hong Kong (not Cascadas) fines her.

2 - the meseros will knock every hour until her shift is over. Which would total about 300 to the club in drinks.

3 - the total cost would be her fee plus 300 to the club for all night.

Is there any way around this? Last summer when I came a girl stayed all night and no hassle. This girl said it's a new thing. Does anyone know how to maybe get around this? I have a few ideas that I'd like you to chime in on.

1 - get a girl at the end of her shift? That way she's "done?

2 - tip the waiter x dollars and say don't come back till tomorrow?

5. Get an escort for a Toda La Noche at your Ticuan room, and avoid the HK bullshit alltogether.

If you must have an HK girl for TLN, then catch her at the end of her shift, and after an hour, if the meseros come knocking, pay her for 1 session, and then send her packing. She knows when her shift is over, and she'll either square it away or, she's in on whatever scam they are running right now.

There's way too much good ass to be bought in Tijuana right now for you to put up with shit, if you're willing to drop the money on a TLN.

[Buckster23]

I was at Cascadas / Hong Kong last night and brought a girl up and wanted to do all night with her. After 30 or 60 min a waiter knocked saying I had to buy drinks for us.

The girl explained the following points.

1 - if she stays past the hour Hong Kong (not Cascadas) fines her.

2 - the meseros will knock every hour until her shift is over. Which would total about 300 to the club in drinks.

3 - the total cost would be her fee plus 300 to the club for all night.

Is there any way around this? Last summer when I came a girl stayed all night and no hassle. This girl said it's a new thing. Does anyone know how to maybe get around this? I have a few ideas that I'd like you to chime in on.

1 - get a girl at the end of her shift? That way she's "done?

2 - tip the waiter x dollars and say don't come back till tomorrow?

3 - get a room somewhere else (the girl said if I took her to the tropical hotel they would also require drinks).

4 - get a "short stay" room but then take the girl to my overnight room. That way when they knock the room is empty and they go away and they never knock on the "right" room.

Thoughts? How does Hong Kong know if a girl returns to the club? Do they clock in and out each time they go up and return?

Would love to figure out best way to get a girl all night without the headache of basically double paying.

[Dogers69]

Imagine most mongers could care less. They travel all over the world to get the most bang for their buck. I doubt these acts stop them from soliciting prostitutes that have pimps or establishments that may possibly withhold the ladies' passports until they pay back their debts. Hopefully most in the Zona are working at their free will rather than forced by pimps and families. It is the harsh reality of this hobby and most are thinking with small brain rather than with conscience.

You guys ever look at tik tik or only fans? Every girl wants to be a little ****. You are making it out as if these girls in hk are working some slave labor job. Everyone I got to know personally has house or houses owned in Mexico and some even in USA. 99% of HK girls wouldn't last a week in a USA strip club with all the work involved dancing giving lap dances, guys ducking their tits, and free conversation with the guys. They would go running back to HK and its robotic non contact sex. Street girls who only take their pants off, and if they are paid to take everything off you still can't be touching or sweating in them or playing with their tits. Who invented this anyway? Seriously who came up with this, technically sex, but practically not sex process? And what about the 3 to 5 thousand working girls in nyc and every other city and town? And the working girls in USA legal brothels in Nevada. These girls are getting rich by Mexico's standards. Remember wherever they goblove the cost for things is much cheaper than Tijuana which for myself, has become more expensive the san Diego for the food I eat, and hotels are about equal if you compare the quality of the hotel equally.

[KBToys]

Well, first step would be awareness. I really think the overwhelming majority of people who go down to these clubs have no idea how frequent bar girls are the victims of violence in the hotels attached to these clubs (and that's not to say that it happens all that frequently. But it definitely occurs way more than it should). I've been going to Zona Norte on and off approaching 10 years now (on average only about twice a year from the East Coast) and had no idea about incidents like this until the high-profile incident with the ex-Rutgers basketball player around this time last year at Adelitas. (That incident is the reason why they've added metal detector searches to many of the Zona Norte clubs.) But yeah, if you were willing to go to Tijuana and / or San Diego media about this, it might go some ways towards awareness. But then again, if we're being completely honest, not everyone will be sympathetic to the plight of you and your girlfriend given where you met her and the nature of her work.

Imagine most mongers could care less. They travel all over the world to get the most bang for their buck. I doubt these acts stop them from soliciting prostitutes that have pimps or establishments that may possibly withhold the ladies' passports until they pay back their debts. Hopefully most in the Zona are working at their free will rather than forced by pimps and families. It is the harsh reality of this hobby and most are thinking with small brain rather than with conscience.

[Dogers69]

Things were quiet Monday night in HK. Its possible I have been going more on Tuesday between the two. I felt like Tuesdays have been crowded in HK. But Monday there was not a lot of guys. If you count Chavelas, there was probably 1 guy per girl. I walked around and sat in 6 seats between the two bars. No girls said Hello,. I bounced to 4 other bars to find reliable girls from past. Found one In tropical but she was having a drink with a guy. I waited 25 minutes moved on. Playboy club had 4 girls but you get no opportunity to talk to them before buying a drink. Couldn't find the reliable girl I met 3 weeks ago in Hong Kong sister club, hotel Korea. I think I had 6 beers tonight and tipped maybe 3 dollars on girls. I had 200 in my wallet. Even spoke to 7 street girls as I had a hotel to take a shower after which I need for those dirty bedspreads. Could not find a enthusiastic girl all night. These woman should take a class on how to turn a guy on. The lesbian waitress at the playboy club is the only one I usually meet who has any clue. Even the massage place on revolucion which is 20 on most weekdays wanted 30.

[BrotherMouzone]

We as customers definitely have some power here, in the form of the almighty dollar. I'm still too raw to formulate how we might advocate for these girls and their safety. For now, it's almost all I think about. Because I don't know how to build a time machine and save her.

Well, first step would be awareness. I really think the overwhelming majority of people who go down to these clubs have no idea how frequent bar girls are the victims of violence in the hotels attached to these clubs (and that's not to say that it happens all that frequently. But it definitely occurs way more than it should). I've been going to Zona Norte on and off approaching 10 years now (on average only about twice a year from the East Coast) and had no idea about incidents like this until the high-profile incident with the ex-Rutgers basketball player around this time last year at Adelitas. (That incident is the reason why they've added metal detector searches to many of the Zona Norte clubs.) But yeah, if you were willing to go to Tijuana and / or San Diego media about this, it might go some ways towards awareness. But then again, if we're being completely honest, not everyone will be sympathetic to the plight of you and your girlfriend given where you met her and the nature of her work.