Hong Kong Club Reports

[TjBrazil]

Here is how you do HK now to avoid all the scams. Get your google voice number for what's app. Write your number down on the inside of a bunch of matchbooks like the old days. Tell each girl to come to your hotel for 150 for an hour. 150 is now the going rate almost for escorts anyway. You will get better service and avoid the 40 dollar room fee, and 12 dollar drinks, dollar robe fee, dollar cum boy, and 5 dollar breathing Tijuana air fee. Do all this while they're standing. You should get a 20% hit ratio.

[TjBrazil]

I do too and that's why I visit and stay in Cascadas Mon or Tues evenings however the rooms I know about previous deaths I do not want to stay in.

Now just have to figure out how to avoid $30 wine bottle scam but someone posted in here that drinks price list in the back next to soap girl bar. Much easier to steer a chica away form $30 wine bottle if can show meteor drinks prices posted.

You tell the waiter what to bring the girl. As a matter of fact just say bottled water for the girl. If they try and charge you 30 dollars for the water get up and leave.

[TjBrazil]

If you don't want wine just say "beer only". They aren't forcing you to get wine.

1) You aren't looking good by buying expensive drinks. It just makes you look like a sucker and a target. The "wine" is more than likely some kind of piss water.

2) If the girl shows attitude over this, imagine how she will be in the room. Let her go. This is actually a good way to ward off the sharks. In fact, any time I see a girl sitting there with one of those wine glasses, that is a strike against her in my book.

3) If you find it difficult to say no when the girl / waiter try to pull this scam on you, I would suggest you search for a backbone.

How about avoid HK all together. Grow a spine and don't put up with any of their bullshit service.

[LuvMexicanas]

Any chica who orders wine, I say no. If she pouts, she's sent packing. Any mesero who brings wine anyway I refuse to accept it or if he places it on the table I hand it right back. If this simple approach is too much for a monger, then he needs to grow a pair pure and simple.

[HK Monger]

If you don't want wine just say "beer only". They aren't forcing you to get wine.

1) You aren't looking good by buying expensive drinks. It just makes you look like a sucker and a target. The "wine" is more than likely some kind of piss water.

2) If the girl shows attitude over this, imagine how she will be in the room. Let her go. This is actually a good way to ward off the sharks. In fact, any time I see a girl sitting there with one of those wine glasses, that is a strike against her in my book.

3) If you find it difficult to say no when the girl / waiter try to pull this scam on you, I would suggest you search for a backbone.

[Cocr Brotheler]

So true Red Baron! Is easy to get suckered into it and usually for me no matter where I go it is almost always my 1st attempt to pull a 'date' not so much cause I'm in a hurry but off guard especially if I just arrived into a place and had been traveling.

Happened to me in Costa Rica last trip when I first arrived to my hotel (Castillo), dropped my bags then off to walk to a nearby restaurant open later (Sportsmen's) when a fat tummied working Ho inside Castillo shanghaied me following me saying things to make me feel guilty for trying to brush her off. So Ok you can come with me to dinner at Sportsmen's and she not real expensive to give drinks or food to but back in the room changed the contract from 2 hours for $125 to only 1, $125 for 2nd hour. No way San Jose, paid her to leave after the 1st hour. Has been like that in HK for me also. 2 of the last 5 gals there I had to send packing cause they wanted $ up front. No way Tijuana! But when you get the good outweighs the bad.

[Zenduka1]

I do too and that's why I visit and stay in Cascadas Mon or Tues evenings however the rooms I know about previous deaths I do not want to stay in.

Now just have to figure out how to avoid $30 wine bottle scam but someone posted in here that drinks price list in the back next to soap girl bar. Much easier to steer a chica away form $30 wine bottle if can show meteor drinks prices posted.

What rooms are these, can you share room numbers?

[RedBaron78]

I do too and that's why I visit and stay in Cascadas Mon or Tues evenings however the rooms I know about previous deaths I do not want to stay in.

Now just have to figure out how to avoid $30 wine bottle scam but someone posted in here that drinks price list in the back next to soap girl bar. Much easier to steer a chica away form $30 wine bottle if can show meteor drinks prices posted.

Yeah the posted drink prices aren't going to help you avoid it. The girls are encouraged by management to ask for wine. They're also incentivized by getting credit for 3 drinks that goes toward their drink quota. (instead of credit for 1 drink if they order a beer).

On the other hand, there is zero incentive for the customer to buy wine. You buy a beer for $12, or a wine for $30. No difference for the customer. As soon as they drink either one, the waiter will immediately ask you to buy another. After you sit with the girl for 15 minutes buying 3 wines, you've spent $90 on 3 drinks. And for what? Nothing. The wine it a total scam. Every customer that buys wine is getting ripped off and HK is laughing all the way to the bank.

I used to buy wine all the time. It got ridiculous. Now if I'm asked to buy wine, I just stand up and walk away. I say nothing. As I'm walking away the girl will say, "okay, I'll get a beer, I'll get beer". I just keep walking. The girl is now sitting there with nothing wishing she had not asked for wine. The waiter also doesn't get tipped because he didn't bring anything. In that scenario, they both lose. But to me, it no loss. There are 100 other girls standing around hoping to earn money.

If more customers would simply walk away when asked for wine leaving the girl and waiter with nothing, they might be hesitant to continue asking for wine. I've bought so many wines in the past. I'll never buy one again. When HK comes up with an incentive for the customer to spend $30 instead of $12, maybe I'll consider it. For now, it's a complete rip off.

[Cocr Brotheler]

I do too and that's why I visit and stay in Cascadas Mon or Tues evenings however the rooms I know about previous deaths I do not want to stay in.

Now just have to figure out how to avoid $30 wine bottle scam but someone posted in here that drinks price list in the back next to soap girl bar. Much easier to steer a chica away form $30 wine bottle if can show meteor drinks prices posted.

[Sol12]

I'll tell you guys which girls like their job. They are the ones that go upstairs with a favorite frequent client, one that she had sex with more than 10 times in the past. With a guy that treats her better than all the other guys in her past. For that one hour or so she likes her job. Then she comes back to reality hours later, and has to have sex with strangers who can kill her on the spot like the serial killer that was lurking in HK months ago.

That was 2 years ago not months ago. Also you might want to check the Tijuana news each day and see how many girls go missing or are found dead. It's not just sex workers, and it may not be perfect but HK does what it can to make them safe. Why do you think more girls work at a place like HK instead of being escorts or go on X? They feel more comfortable and like to see the person before going up with him instead of blindly walking into a motel room were you have no idea on what to expect.

[Jackie888]

I'll tell you guys which girls like their job. They are the ones that go upstairs with a favorite frequent client, one that she had sex with more than 10 times in the past. With a guy that treats her better than all the other guys in her past. For that one hour or so she likes her job. Then she comes back to reality hours later, and has to have sex with strangers who can kill her on the spot like the serial killer that was lurking in HK months ago.

[AmericanPi]

I mostly agree and agree with the "most don't like it" sentiment. I just don't think it's as close to 100% (or even 90%) as many of you here are thinking. Think many of you are looking at it through the lens of your own personal view (a view which I happen to share) that sex work is abhorrent. But there's a decent percentage of girls that don't see it that way, even if they find the vast majority of guys they sleep with undesirable.

I think we just part ways on logical structures here. Fine, it's not 90% that hate it. Make it 80. Make it 70. It doesn't change much. If there are 100 girls in the club and 70 of them have to mentally prepare for the awfulness that is Joe Public pounding them night after night, it's still an awful existence that has very few good off ramps. These situations are usually bad (yes I know not always every time for every person) and they don't end well (yes not always in every circumstance for every girl).

Again I'm no activist. I go to HK. I like it. I pick and choose the hottest girls. But I'm honest about what I'm doing. And I make sure to treat them well and pay them extra and thank them. Because I know that they are there for my benefit and would rather not have to suck my load off this Thursday afternoon before my mezcal tasting, no matter how charming I am.

[Zenduka1]

This conversation is falling into a familiar pattern. The fact that not bananas are yellow does not mean most of them aren't. Most are. Enough to bet that if you picked a banana blind chances are it'the be yellow. Not 100 pct, but close enough to bet on.

Some girls who arriba also enjoy it. For whatever reason. It's exciting. They are sex addicts. They are narcissists and love the attention.

But don't kid yourself. Most don't like it. They don't actually get to choose who enters their orifices. In a literal sense they do but any girl who makes a habit of rejecting HK patrons will be working the alley pretty soon if we're honest. And most of the guys at HK are not George Clooney. They're generally normal guys but normal means a mix of fat, sweaty, bad teeth, bad breath, over eager, awkward, and the like. I know, you're not like that and I'm not either. But you've been to HK and you know as well as I do these girls don't dream of these guys in their off hours.

And I have no problem with this. I go there regularly. I'm just saying we should look reality in the eye when it greets us. It's unbecoming to do otherwise.

I was watching a youtube video called "entrevista con una cariñosa de club HongKong" when my HK regular entered my room. We watched it for about 15 minutes together. The girl being interviewed was painting a general rosy picture about her experience. I asked my girl what she thought, she said the girl in the interview was saying what seems to be things imposed on her either by her pimps or HK management. My girl said contrary to what is being told in the video the experience most girls face is horrific and she stressed that last word.

In my view even in the real world raw sex as in one-night-stand is rarely satisfactory to women. We men have the tendency to assume women are wired like us somehow but they are almost different creatures when it comes to this subject. Women do not take raw sex as a separate object of focus, not even as main part when it comes their relations with men. Yes they like it but it is part of a parcel that encapsulates a list of other factors, like trust, intimacy, love, admiration, respect also submission and safety. They are complicated. Men like me see a toe and get hard. LOL.

Given the above, it is highly unlikely to find a working girl that is enamored with her sexual experience with a monger.

[ABAJoeSmith123]

Guys, this argument is insane. First, we can't possibly know what is going on in the minds of 91.65% of these girls. Throwing out numbers is just crazy. In my experience, these girls do it for the money. Most have tough family situations. Others do it to support a lavish lifestyle, at least by Mexican standards. But to think any of these girls actually like banging complete strangers every night is just foolish. It's a hard reality to admit. As others have said, some guys need to believe that the girl is multi-orgasmic with only him. Some deal with it better than others. But I feel safe saying none of them get up every day and say I can't wait to get destroyed by a few strangers that don't even speak my language.

This was not directed at you, Brother. Just a general statement.

They ONLY do it for the money. No normal human woman likes getting degraded and pounded by some nasty dude they don't know and then having to repeat it all night. These girls wouldn't give you even a smile in another setting where they had a stable job and were not financially dependent on you for sex money. I was there last weekend and man. I saw some creepy and disgusting looking guys there. Just saying. I'm not saying I'm handsome by any means. I'm just saying people on this thread need to stop lying to themselves that the vast majority of mongers there look like tom cruise and make passionate sweet love to the women.

[Dcrist0527]

I mostly agree and agree with the "most don't like it" sentiment. I just don't think it's as close to 100% (or even 90%) as many of you here are thinking. Think many of you are looking at it through the lens of your own personal view (a view which I happen to share) that sex work is abhorrent. But there's a decent percentage of girls that don't see it that way, even if they find the vast majority of guys they sleep with undesirable.

Guys, this argument is insane. First, we can't possibly know what is going on in the minds of 91.65% of these girls. Throwing out numbers is just crazy. In my experience, these girls do it for the money. Most have tough family situations. Others do it to support a lavish lifestyle, at least by Mexican standards. But to think any of these girls actually like banging complete strangers every night is just foolish. It's a hard reality to admit. As others have said, some guys need to believe that the girl is multi-orgasmic with only him. Some deal with it better than others. But I feel safe saying none of them get up every day and say I can't wait to get destroyed by a few strangers that don't even speak my language.

This was not directed at you, Brother. Just a general statement.