Hong Kong Club Reports

[LuvMexicanas]

They have a ficha quota of drinks per shift and get a small amount from each drink sold. They keep all the money from arribas. Everyone of those tickets they get from meseros, fichas and lapdances they turn in at the end of their shift for the pay. Its like $2-3 dollars for every ficha.

Most of the money they will make will be seeing clients outside HK. That's where the real scam starts for them by manipulating gullible mongers that they are looking for relationships and an Novio from America to rescue them.
I know and have personally seen guys that have fallen way deep in this rabbit hole, buying these girls Iphones, paying their rent, monthly bills, taking the to Tulum spending $5k a month on them sadly.

How do you know there is a ficha quota?

[Hedonish]

Most of the money they will make will be seeing clients outside HK. That's where the real scam starts for them by manipulating gullible mongers that they are looking for relationships and an Novio from America to rescue them.
I know and have personally seen guys that have fallen way deep in this rabbit hole, buying these girls Iphones, paying their rent, monthly bills, taking the to Tulum spending $5k a month on them sadly.

This is so, so true. There's been a lot of talk about rising standard rates, and while the girls in the mid-tier and lower are likely to suffer as a result because less mongers will come to HK overall, the top tier girls are largely living off of their big spending clients. If I had to bet, they couldn't care less if there's fewer small / average spenders in the club.

[BlackThought]

They have a ficha quota of drinks per shift and get a small amount from each drink sold. They keep all the money from arribas. Everyone of those tickets they get from meseros, fichas and lapdances they turn in at the end of their shift for the pay. Its like $2-3 dollars for every ficha.

Most of the money they will make will be seeing clients outside HK. That's where the real scam starts for them by manipulating gullible mongers that they are looking for relationships and an Novio from America to rescue them.
I know and have personally seen guys that have fallen way deep in this rabbit hole, buying these girls Iphones, paying their rent, monthly bills, taking the to Tulum spending $5k a month on them sadly.

Yeah. I don't understand taking them on vacations to Cancun / tulum. Why bring sand to the beach, plenty of chicas available for sex in Quintana Roo. I think some men crave the girlfriend experience and will shell out a lot of $$$ for it.

[Federico69]

I was able to negotiate TLN for $300. Her 30 min rate was $100, but business was slow on a Tuesday. She told me that she keeps all the $ for sex, but the management wants the girls on the floor working as the club mainly makes money from fichas.

So how long is the TLN for from a certain time at night until morning or how did that work? I presume the later in her shift it is the more likely she is to agree to it.

[Maelstrom]

Does anyone know exactly how they get paid?

Sources of Revenue are:

Tips.

Fichas.

Private lapdances.

Commissions on ST rooms.

Sex.

I read somewhere that they keep 100% of what they earn from tips and from sex and then get commissions on fichas and the short term room rate. Can anyone confirm this and what the percentage commissions are I am working on a model to understand their financial incentives to give discounts for longer sex sessions and it comes down to how they maximize their profits between the sources of revenue they have available to them.

They have a ficha quota of drinks per shift and get a small amount from each drink sold. They keep all the money from arribas. Everyone of those tickets they get from meseros, fichas and lapdances they turn in at the end of their shift for the pay. Its like $2-3 dollars for every ficha.

Most of the money they will make will be seeing clients outside HK. That's where the real scam starts for them by manipulating gullible mongers that they are looking for relationships and an Novio from America to rescue them.
I know and have personally seen guys that have fallen way deep in this rabbit hole, buying these girls Iphones, paying their rent, monthly bills, taking the to Tulum spending $5k a month on them sadly.

[BlackThought]

Does anyone know exactly how they get paid?

Sources of Revenue are:

Tips.

Fichas.

Private lapdances.

Commissions on ST rooms.

Sex.

I read somewhere that they keep 100% of what they earn from tips and from sex and then get commissions on fichas and the short term room rate. Can anyone confirm this and what the percentage commissions are I am working on a model to understand their financial incentives to give discounts for longer sex sessions and it comes down to how they maximize their profits between the sources of revenue they have available to them.

I was able to negotiate TLN for $300. Her 30 min rate was $100, but business was slow on a Tuesday. She told me that she keeps all the $ for sex, but the management wants the girls on the floor working as the club mainly makes money from fichas.

[Federico69]

And their logical thought process was to upcharge everything with the pandemic causing a slow down in business. Most of the $100 quoters are 7's at best and that's if you want to overlook their botched ass implants and equally terrible boob jobs.

Does anyone know exactly how they get paid?

Sources of Revenue are:

Tips.

Fichas.

Private lapdances.

Commissions on ST rooms.

Sex.

I read somewhere that they keep 100% of what they earn from tips and from sex and then get commissions on fichas and the short term room rate. Can anyone confirm this and what the percentage commissions are I am working on a model to understand their financial incentives to give discounts for longer sex sessions and it comes down to how they maximize their profits between the sources of revenue they have available to them.

[Explorer8939]

The main reason most sessions are 30 minutes is because that's how long HK hotel room rentals are? I always get my own hotel room & usually I consider the standard time to be 1 hour.

Usually longer sessions are only a slight bump up, but of course the HK girls will try to ask for more. For me, I would say the prices should be as follows:

1/2 hour - $80 standard talent, $100 Top Talent, $120 Best Looking Girl in the place.

1 hour - $100, $120, $140.

90 minutes - $120, $140, $160.

Multiple Hours / All night - $200-$220, $300-350, $400-500.

Always pay in pesos.

[KetoAndKettle]

I went last Mon. & Tues. plus last Fri. and plenty of good finds each night IMO. I do not like weekends when packed to the gills and literally tripping over others and all smoke filled = hate that.

Next trip though I may try the escort route and get a room at Ticuan or similar. I like to spend more time with quality girls than quantity pump and dump but it is all good.

Ticuan and escorts from a site is my favorite way to do Tijuana. And still love the F out of the zona. But yeah, escorts. I love Tijuana. Need to move back to la or sd from Idaho. But just don't like California politics, and other craziness.

[Maelstrom]

I was talking to one of the girls and she said business is down dramatically since October, that people are still coming to the club, but aren't spending like they used to. Going up to the room is rare these days, probably due to the higher room rate + $100 standard for 30 minutes which is pretty steep outside of the US.

And their logical thought process was to upcharge everything with the pandemic causing a slow down in business. Most of the $100 quoters are 7's at best and that's if you want to overlook their botched ass implants and equally terrible boob jobs.

[Dogers69]

I was talking to one of the girls and she said business is down dramatically since October, that people are still coming to the club, but aren't spending like they used to. Going up to the room is rare these days, probably due to the higher room rate + $100 standard for 30 minutes which is pretty steep outside of the US.

Yeah I believe her. Usually I'd say all woman complain business is slow but I do think the guys aren't spending what they were. All you have to do is wander I on Friday or Saturday night and it's like 60% of the normal pre covid male population. Remember, Mexicans aren't swimming in this covid free money printing machine the USA is running. Mexico is like USA economy in then 80's. You wanted more money you worked more hours. So there's a lot woman working right now. It would be interesting to know how much the price increase keeps some. Guys from going. I would have to take a guess its reduced the amount of men going to HK by 10 to 15%. Just a guess. But hard to imagine less than that. The younger guys who start going now will be ok. But the guys who were paying 50 5 years ago with 11 dollar hotels might not stomach doubling of prices.

[ClownDays]

I was talking to one of the girls and she said business is down dramatically since October, that people are still coming to the club, but aren't spending like they used to. Going up to the room is rare these days, probably due to the higher room rate + $100 standard for 30 minutes which is pretty steep outside of the US.

When did funemployment end? Like September of this year? Would not surprise me if bros were taking their funemployment check south of the border and buying ass with it every week.

[BlackThought]

I don't pay for sexo in HK. I suppose if the girls said 30 bucks I'd have to do it. But I don't have the money this year and the bad sex "cum papi cum already" "you take long time papi". What's the point. Risk herpes, and ruin my clean bed sheets for that? I like to hang out in HK. Right now, the last 2 weeks since I returned to San Diego, is the best time in HK in 5 years, if talking about the amount of woman. There's more woman than men if you count the 40 girls in chavelas at any time. They are significantly like 10 more sociable and flirty when it is like this. It's been half decade since I've seen so many woman. That, combined with covid is keeping the men down. Unless it's the constant price increases that are keeping mem away I don't know. But the price for sex? I never negotiate because it doesn't matter to me. But some will quote 80. Otherwise I hear 100 or 120. Some guy offered a girl 20 in front of me. He was a real large guy so it's good she didn't slap him.

I was talking to one of the girls and she said business is down dramatically since October, that people are still coming to the club, but aren't spending like they used to. Going up to the room is rare these days, probably due to the higher room rate + $100 standard for 30 minutes which is pretty steep outside of the US.

[Federico69]

The main reason most sessions are 30 minutes is because that's how long HK hotel room rentals are? I always get my own hotel room & usually I consider the standard time to be 1 hour.

Usually longer sessions are only a slight bump up, but of course the HK girls will try to ask for more. For me, I would say the prices should be as follows:

1/2 hour - $80 standard talent, $100 Top Talent, $120 Best Looking Girl in the place.

1 hour - $100, $120, $140.

90 minutes - $120, $140, $160..

Thanks this is great info! Any thoughts on negotiations tactics that have worked for you on moving a girl from a higher to lower price. Do you tell her she is not hot enough for the price she is asking? I've heard of walking away but it means you have to start over building some rapport with another one. I've found just going straight to the sex without a little flirting first results in subpar sessions.

[Dogers69]

What are the best / typical rates you have found on different days of the week?

We all know short-term on the weekends is typically $100 on the weekends with $80 possible. Has anyone done better recently?

The best I have gotten on an hour on the weekend is $170, I have also paid $200 when thinking with my little head. Never done a longer session than an hour but there is a girl I met last Saturday who is great, I did her twice first for 35 min and then a second one for an hour to close the night out.

I'd like to go on a Tuesday and get a discounted room for the night and get her for at least 90 minutes, what do you think is a reasonable deal on that day?

I don't pay for sexo in HK. I suppose if the girls said 30 bucks I'd have to do it. But I don't have the money this year and the bad sex "cum papi cum already" "you take long time papi". What's the point. Risk herpes, and ruin my clean bed sheets for that? I like to hang out in HK. Right now, the last 2 weeks since I returned to San Diego, is the best time in HK in 5 years, if talking about the amount of woman. There's more woman than men if you count the 40 girls in chavelas at any time. They are significantly like 10× more sociable and flirty when it is like this. It's been half decade since I've seen so many woman. That, combined with covid is keeping the men down. Unless it's the constant price increases that are keeping mem away I don't know. But the price for sex? I never negotiate because it doesn't matter to me. But some will quote 80. Otherwise I hear 100 or 120. Some guy offered a girl 20 in front of me. He was a real large guy so it's good she didn't slap him.