Hong Kong Club Reports

[Phordphan]

Thanks to some of those who offered some tips on reducing fischa costs. Some others though seemed to take it the wrong way or too seriously. Since these fischa drinks are small mostly non alcohol drinks that the chicas only get a small cut out of the total. I think there are better money paths for each.

I don't like to really carry more than $1,000 cash on me at any point in time. I've had problems both times I used an ATM in Tijuana. Once I was shorted on cash and once I had fraudulent transactions occur days later.

So I might plan out about $250 a day. Some days I might do 1 Arriba others 2, and I also have to plan out money for food, and the Mexican hotels like cash it seems.

So I'm trying to hold the per day Arriba costs to maybe $50/60, but that's only 5/6 fischa drinks, and often the chicas will get a second or even third drink before you have enough time to make up your mind.

The fischa program is the one major drawback to Tijuana in my opinion. Bottom line, I need time in the clubs to scout out the best option, and time with each chica to "read her" with the fischas resell pass jeopardizing that.

There may be "better money paths" for you, but the bar is in business to sell extremely overpriced drinks to gringos. They get nothing from the girl's upstairs activities. So, to them, your buying a ficha drink is the best money path. I'm not sure what other parts of the world you're familiar with, but hostess bars the world over have some sort of overpriced drink requirement. It sucks, to be sure, but it's nothing new and it's part of the game.

Where did you use an ATM? Was it in the sewer of the ZN, or at a bank in a less crime-infested part of town? I've used ATMs all over Tijuana with zero issues. All of the problems I hear about are with Zona Norte ATMs, which is no big surprise.

I have stayed in almost every major and mid-range hotel in Tijuana, except for Lucerna and the Marriott. All have accepted credit cards with zero issues. Shitels like Coahuila and Cascadas, well. Maybe they're different.

What do you mean the chicas will get a second or third drink before you make up your mind? Who's paying? Who's ordering? You need to set the limits. If you can't make up your mind after two drinks, then it's time to move on.

I don't mean to come across the wrong way, but I can think of no country where hostess bars will let patrons tie up a girl's time for hours for free. They expect you to pay for her time by buying overpriced drinks. If you're the kind of guy who needs lots of time to make up your mind, then you'll need to accept that and budget accordingly. HK sure isn't in business to make it any easier or cheaper for anybody.

[CkNice11]

So how this trip came about was random as fuck but I'm glad I did it. Was off from the office on a Tuesday and Wednesday and decided fuck it I'm a see what Tijuana like. Flew in from Detroit to LA to sight see them drove to San Diego to the border. Parked at a parking lot by the bridge for 9 bucks for 12 hours. Crossing to Mexico was easy but they got me out of 30 bucks for a pass bullshit cause I didn't have the email for my "dentist appointment" oh well came to far to let $30 stop me. Cross into Mexico and take a taxi to Hong Kong and check into my hotel. Had the master jacuzzi room for $100 bucks and it was definitely worth it. Drop my stuff off head to the club and holy shit what a site. Probably about 70 women at least on a freaking Wednesday. See one who fits my type (big ass) and take her up and do the do for $70. Gave her a tip and she was happy and kept trying to kiss me in the mouth (not my style) I leave and decide to check out Adelia bar and it was kind of dead but holy shit did I see a good one who immediately pounced on me. Took her to there room which was pretty crappy but hey who cares I'm only using it for about 15 minutes. They charge me 15 and I give her $80. After that I was pretty tired so went to Azul and got some amazing food and a drink for like 15 bucks. Retreat to the room and planned on going to Chicago and tropical but I was tired and the jacuzzi had me ready to pass out LOL. Wake up early and go to the 7 tj floor because the club was closed but it was slim pickings there. Head to the border and it's a pain in the ass crossing back home. About an hour wait compared to going to Mexico. I'm definitely already planning my next trip. I'll probably come on a weekend day and stay for the whole weekend.

[Rainman306]

Thanks to some of those who offered some tips on reducing fischa costs. Some others though seemed to take it the wrong way or too seriously. Since these fischa drinks are small mostly non alcohol drinks that the chicas only get a small cut out of the total. I think there are better money paths for each.

I don't like to really carry more than $1,000 cash on me at any point in time. I've had problems both times I used an ATM in Tijuana. Once I was shorted on cash and once I had fraudulent transactions occur days later.

So I might plan out about $250 a day. Some days I might do 1 Arriba others 2, and I also have to plan out money for food, and the Mexican hotels like cash it seems.

So I'm trying to hold the per day Arriba costs to maybe $50/60, but that's only 5/6 fischa drinks, and often the chicas will get a second or even third drink before you have enough time to make up your mind.

The fischa program is the one major drawback to Tijuana in my opinion. Bottom line, I need time in the clubs to scout out the best option, and time with each chica to "read her" with the fischas resell pass jeopardizing that.

[Covid2020]

Forget about #4. This is not going to happen. #5 I wouldn't get excited about either. The puta is sitting with you largely because she's earning a little bit of money. If you start refilling her ficha, then her income stream comes to a halt. She will likely object. Her opinion of you will surely drop. And if staff sees you do it, you will likely receive a warning and repeat offenders will likely be kicked out or banned.

There's two ways you can reduce ficha consumption.

#1. Play with and hold her hands constantly while sitting. If her hands are occupied, she can't grab her ficha to drink it.

#2. Place an amount of cash on the table. You choose the amount, whether it is $30, $50, $100, or whatever amount you choose. Then pick a reasonable amount of time you wish the chica to sit with you. For example, place $100 on the table. If the average ficha lasts 12 minutes, then typically $100 lasts a 2 hours. Tell her an amount of time longer than 2 hour. Tell her 3 hours. Tell her the $100 on the table is hers to keep after 3 hours, but every ficha she drinks will be paid for from the $100. Watch how fast her ficha consumption slows to a crawl. You win, because you got 50% more table time you would receive for your $100, the puta wins because she will earn much more than the measly $1. 75 she earns per ficha. The only losers are the mesero and HK management. This trick is really for those mongers who enjoy sitting for extended periods with putas. If you just buy 1 or 2 fichas, then reference trick #1.

Somethings I have tried.

1) Have a dedicated mesero, this helps a lot. Agreed this takes some initial investment. My mesero knows the type of girl I like, goes out to get one for me. I give him 10-15 bucks (I stay long hrs in the club) to not to bother me, my offer to him was, he can keep the money that I am paying for the bar or I can pay for the bar and he makes less. Same goes with the girl, even though I know what their cut from drinks are ($2-3), it a nice opening line asking them how much they make from the drink (make a comment its low) and them proposing I can pay them directly to limit the drink consumption.

2) Buy some food instead of drink and ask the girl to eat it (works for short stay in the bar), my observation it takes longer time to eat, than drink for the same $$ spent.

Most imp: these all only work, if the club is slow and the girl is not out there to hustle because she can make more money with trips to the hotel instead spend time with you. I find not all girls like to do the arriba equally. Oh ya be presentable I guess.

[SpeedToys]

The girl with the American BF, was the tattoo up her spine in Chinese?

I think I know this girl, she's cool.

That's. Depressing.

She she sit and watch him work all day too?

[ClamSlammer]

4. Buy a bucket of beer & insist to the chica & masero that she drinks beers from the bucket & not fischas. They probably don't want to allow this, but if this has worked for anyone please share. Also clarify if the beer bucket was part of getting a VIP room or purchased solo.

5. Purchase 1 fischa & then covertly pour beer into the mini fischa bottle with tipping the chica. Not sure Mexican chica logic would be able to follow this & the maseros seem to be always lingering nearby.

Forget about #4. This is not going to happen. #5 I wouldn't get excited about either. The puta is sitting with you largely because she's earning a little bit of money. If you start refilling her ficha, then her income stream comes to a halt. She will likely object. Her opinion of you will surely drop. And if staff sees you do it, you will likely receive a warning and repeat offenders will likely be kicked out or banned.

There's two ways you can reduce ficha consumption.

#1. Play with and hold her hands constantly while sitting. If her hands are occupied, she can't grab her ficha to drink it.

#2. Place an amount of cash on the table. You choose the amount, whether it is $30, $50, $100, or whatever amount you choose. Then pick a reasonable amount of time you wish the chica to sit with you. For example, place $100 on the table. If the average ficha lasts 12 minutes, then typically $100 lasts a 2 hours. Tell her an amount of time longer than 2 hour. Tell her 3 hours. Tell her the $100 on the table is hers to keep after 3 hours, but every ficha she drinks will be paid for from the $100. Watch how fast her ficha consumption slows to a crawl. You win, because you got 50% more table time you would receive for your $100, the puta wins because she will earn much more than the measly $1. 75 she earns per ficha. The only losers are the mesero and HK management. This trick is really for those mongers who enjoy sitting for extended periods with putas. If you just buy 1 or 2 fichas, then reference trick #1.

[Phordphan]

Not quite sure what the best option might be, if any, to avoid spending too much money on fischas. You'll see below that I'm really trying to consider all possible options.

1. Just walk around doing quick tips & gropes and pick someone for Arriba really quickly. Doing this, of course, you won't be able to spend much time actually inside the club.

2. Just say No to buying any discuss at all, but the chicas will get up & leave in a minute or two, and soon no more chicas will sit with you & you'll be sitting alone or at stage tipping til you decide your next move.

3. Simply not go into the big clubs / bars, but then you are limited to street girls or escorts. Street girls are usually not GFE & rushed. Escorts the tend to be more expensive & I don't think many go into zona Norte.

4. Buy a bucket of beer & insist to the chica & masero that she drinks beers from the bucket & not fischas. They probably don't want to allow this, but if this has worked for anyone please share. Also clarify if the beer bucket was part of getting a VIP room or purchased solo.

5. Purchase 1 fischa & then covertly pour beer into the mini fischa bottle with tipping the chica. Not sure Mexican chica logic would be able to follow this & the maseros seem to be always lingering nearby.

6. Ask the chica to drink the fischa very slowly with perhaps an extra trip & strong Arriba chance for her & tell masero to go away & that she is still not finished with 1st fischa.

Not trying to be a cheap Charlie, but I think most know fischas can be budget killers, and one has to also be concise of how much cash to carry as they could get robbed & their are not the best options available in Tijuana to get more cash.

Is there 1 option that anyone likes best?

Unless you're willing to learn Spanish and venture to the smaller, more "local" venues, then you're going to have to swim in the gringo-centric clip joint waters. Your choices are limited. So, suck it up.

Obviously you can't hang out, schmooze with the chicas, and not buy drinks.

Escorts are actually a less expensive option. Their prices are hourly, not "almost 30 minutes," and there are no ficha drinks to buy. So, that is a viable option.

The clubs don't allow the girls to drink from your drinks. Yes, sometimes they might do that on occasion, but it's not allowed.

Pouring your drink into the girl's drink, again, isn't allowed. You might get by with it occasionally, but you can't get by with that forever.

You can tell her to drink slowly. But you shouldn't have to. If she pounds the first, kick her out. A decent girl should be make a drink last in the 20 minute neighborhood. If they really like you then it may be longer, sometimes quite a bit longer. But my rule of thumb is 15 - 20 minutes.

If you're going to troll the club scene, you better be ready to part with some money. Don't be like the jerks I see constantly, who want to drive a BMW or a Mercedes, but are too cheap, or too poor, to maintain it. You have to pay to play, whether it's cars or HK putas.

BTW, there are plenty of safe options to get cash in TJ, but few are in the Zona Norte.

[Hargow20]

I have found that very few girls in HK are willing to do BJ only. Most of the girls stick to the $100 min for anything.

You are not a good bargainer; average is $70 not 80 and many girls will settle for 60 in HK. Especially on week days. You can always tip them good after but not before.

[BigButtDetecto]

In Hong Kong, maybe half the girls in the club have a big asses. BBJ rather difficult CBBJ in general. The price is generally $ 80, now I read that the price can be as high as $ 100. This is for sex, the room upstairs for half an hour is $ 15 or $ 17 plus $ 1 is collected by the dude when leaving with the girl from HK to the room upstairs and don't ask me why. - Also a $ 1 tip for a janitor to clean the room after you finish with the girl. Beer $ 4 and $ 5 and a little tip. Short groping of girls in the club - $ 1. (These were the general prices before covid19 in February.).

You are not a good bargainer; average is $70 not 80 and many girls will settle for 60 in HK. Especially on week days. You can always tip them good after but not before.

[DramaFree11]

I don't drink; I wander inside the club few minutes; I look around if there is anything worth of interest. I tip the girls 1 $ at a time, never the meseros as they are a pain. And if I see a girl I like, I take her to the room uspstairs. No need to linger and get the covid.

I do the same, or ask the to go to Azul for a drink, makes for a great experience.

[LuvMexicanas]

Not quite sure what the best option might be, if any, to avoid spending too much money on fischas. You'll see below that I'm really trying to consider all possible options.

1. Just walk around doing quick tips & gropes and pick someone for Arriba really quickly. Doing this, of course, you won't be able to spend much time actually inside the club.

2. Just say No to buying any discuss at all, but the chicas will get up & leave in a minute or two, and soon no more chicas will sit with you & you'll be sitting alone or at stage tipping til you decide your next move.

3. Simply not go into the big clubs / bars, but then you are limited to street girls or escorts. Street girls are usually not GFE & rushed. Escorts the tend to be more expensive & I don't think many go into zona Norte.

4. Buy a bucket of beer & insist to the chica & masero that she drinks beers from the bucket & not fischas. They probably don't want to allow this, but if this has worked for anyone please share. Also clarify if the beer bucket was part of getting a VIP room or purchased solo.

5. Purchase 1 fischa & then covertly pour beer into the mini fischa bottle with tipping the chica. Not sure Mexican chica logic would be able to follow this & the maseros seem to be always lingering nearby.

Wow man you are way overthinking it. It's your money so you control where it goes. If you're vibing with a chica, buy her a drink. If not, kick her to the curb. You should get a good read after one drink. Sure you may buy one for each of several chicas before you find what you're looking for but you pay to play. It's a wise investment compared to just taking a dead fish upstairs. Having said all that, things can go perfect downstairs and go off the rails upstairs. It's not an exact science.

[BigButtDetecto]

Not quite sure what the best option might be, if any, to avoid spending too much money on fischas. You'll see below that I'm really trying to consider all possible options.

1. Just walk around doing quick tips & gropes and pick someone for Arriba really quickly. Doing this, of course, you won't be able to spend much time actually inside the club.

2. Just say No to buying any discuss at all, but the chicas will get up & leave in a minute or two, and soon no more chicas will sit with you & you'll be sitting alone or at stage tipping til you decide your next move.

3. Simply not go into the big clubs / bars, but then you are limited to street girls or escorts. Street girls are usually not GFE & rushed. Escorts the tend to be more expensive & I don't think many go into zona Norte.

4. Buy a bucket of beer & insist to the chica & masero that she drinks beers from the bucket & not fischas. They probably don't want to allow this, but if this has worked for anyone please share. Also clarify if the beer bucket was part of getting a VIP room or purchased solo.

5. Purchase 1 fischa & then covertly pour beer into the mini fischa bottle with tipping the chica. Not sure Mexican chica logic would be able to follow this & the maseros seem to be always lingering nearby.

6. Ask the chica to drink the fischa very slowly with perhaps an extra trip & strong Arriba chance for her & tell masero to go away & that she is still not finished with 1st fischa.

Not trying to be a cheap Charlie, but I think most know fischas can be budget killers, and one has to also be concise of how much cash to carry as they could get robbed & their are not the best options available in Tijuana to get more cash.

Is there 1 option that anyone likes best?

I don't drink; I wander inside the club few minutes; I look around if there is anything worth of interest. I tip the girls 1 $ at a time, never the meseros as they are a pain. And if I see a girl I like, I take her to the room uspstairs. No need to linger and get the covid.

[Rainman306]

Not quite sure what the best option might be, if any, to avoid spending too much money on fischas. You'll see below that I'm really trying to consider all possible options.

1. Just walk around doing quick tips & gropes and pick someone for Arriba really quickly. Doing this, of course, you won't be able to spend much time actually inside the club.

2. Just say No to buying any discuss at all, but the chicas will get up & leave in a minute or two, and soon no more chicas will sit with you & you'll be sitting alone or at stage tipping til you decide your next move.

3. Simply not go into the big clubs / bars, but then you are limited to street girls or escorts. Street girls are usually not GFE & rushed. Escorts the tend to be more expensive & I don't think many go into zona Norte.

4. Buy a bucket of beer & insist to the chica & masero that she drinks beers from the bucket & not fischas. They probably don't want to allow this, but if this has worked for anyone please share. Also clarify if the beer bucket was part of getting a VIP room or purchased solo.

5. Purchase 1 fischa & then covertly pour beer into the mini fischa bottle with tipping the chica. Not sure Mexican chica logic would be able to follow this & the maseros seem to be always lingering nearby.

6. Ask the chica to drink the fischa very slowly with perhaps an extra trip & strong Arriba chance for her & tell masero to go away & that she is still not finished with 1st fischa.

Not trying to be a cheap Charlie, but I think most know fischas can be budget killers, and one has to also be concise of how much cash to carry as they could get robbed & their are not the best options available in Tijuana to get more cash.

Is there 1 option that anyone likes best?

[Phordphan]

A waiter is always supposed to ask the guy if he wants to buy a girl a drink. The good ones ask twice to avoid miscommunication. He's not supposed to take orders from the girl, and he shouldn't be flipping out when I tell him no good, as if he opened a bottle of champagne. I'm supposed to be buying every girl a drink who orders one for herself from a waiter when I'm not even sitting with her, just standing there. Uh no that's not how it goes. That's remnants of the unofficial 7th floor HK, which doesn't have any rules or professional management, leaking into the main HK bar, which is very organized.

Gee, Mr. Btfsplk. Why does this nonsense happen only to you? I have had meseros in HK try to palm half-finished ficha beers, but I've never had one take an order from a girl. 100% of the time the waiter asks ME if I want to buy a drink. THAT is how it goes.

[AmorPorFavor]

Had a negative HK experience. Bought 4 drinks for a girl knowing her price was too high for sex, and her knowing the same. But she wanted the ficha credits or she thought ID pay $90. I was never ever gona pay any girl in HK %90. If I had money like that I'd have a attractive GF. After I leave her, she returns with her GF and both flirt for 20 seconds before she tells waiter 2 more fichas. Nobody asked me, the waiter or her. I instantly tell him when he already popped the bottle, no bueno. Between her, her GF, and him, nobody speaks English and the music is too loud anyway. A dude sees what transpires and starts trying to pay for the drinks, but starts lecturing me, that the girls don't work for free. I just dropped 45 on her 4 drinks with propina. I don't like dudes talking to me inch from my face, a waiter or customer. If I'm gona get covid its gona be from a female. Anyway I just walked away went home. Some guys have said the ficha drinks are free from Tecate so him popping 2 beers of 2% alcohol, 6 ounces, wasn't gona make me feel guilty after I just bought her 4 drinks. But I probably will stay out of HK for month. 2 hours earlier, I met a gorgeous 20 year old at a whole in wall bar around corner. But she didn't do enough during her drink to lead. To more.

I only buy fichas to spend time with a chica while I try to figure out what kind of ride she will give me arriba. As we all know they are a complete rip off. At $10 a piece, yes a dollar for the pain in the ass mesero, I never buy a girl more than 2 and only then when I am sure I want to fuck her and I am just having a sexy fun time in the bar with her. I have tasted a few of the "drinks" they bring them and they had no alcohol in them. Seems to me that if you spent $45 on fichas for one chica you had already paid over half the price of a session. At $60 even closer. Limiting the amount of money wasted on fichas means more money for arribas.