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  1. #11827
    Quote Originally Posted by ClamSlammer  [View Original Post]
    Forget about #4. This is not going to happen. #5 I wouldn't get excited about either. The puta is sitting with you largely because she's earning a little bit of money. If you start refilling her ficha, then her income stream comes to a halt. She will likely object. Her opinion of you will surely drop. And if staff sees you do it, you will likely receive a warning and repeat offenders will likely be kicked out or banned.

    There's two ways you can reduce ficha consumption.

    #1. Play with and hold her hands constantly while sitting. If her hands are occupied, she can't grab her ficha to drink it.

    #2. Place an amount of cash on the table. You choose the amount, whether it is $30, $50, $100, or whatever amount you choose. Then pick a reasonable amount of time you wish the chica to sit with you. For example, place $100 on the table. If the average ficha lasts 12 minutes, then typically $100 lasts a 2 hours. Tell her an amount of time longer than 2 hour. Tell her 3 hours. Tell her the $100 on the table is hers to keep after 3 hours, but every ficha she drinks will be paid for from the $100. Watch how fast her ficha consumption slows to a crawl. You win, because you got 50% more table time you would receive for your $100, the puta wins because she will earn much more than the measly $1. 75 she earns per ficha. The only losers are the mesero and HK management. This trick is really for those mongers who enjoy sitting for extended periods with putas. If you just buy 1 or 2 fichas, then reference trick #1.
    Somethings I have tried.

    1) Have a dedicated mesero, this helps a lot. Agreed this takes some initial investment. My mesero knows the type of girl I like, goes out to get one for me. I give him 10-15 bucks (I stay long hrs in the club) to not to bother me, my offer to him was, he can keep the money that I am paying for the bar or I can pay for the bar and he makes less. Same goes with the girl, even though I know what their cut from drinks are ($2-3), it a nice opening line asking them how much they make from the drink (make a comment its low) and them proposing I can pay them directly to limit the drink consumption.

    2) Buy some food instead of drink and ask the girl to eat it (works for short stay in the bar), my observation it takes longer time to eat, than drink for the same $$ spent.

    Most imp: these all only work, if the club is slow and the girl is not out there to hustle because she can make more money with trips to the hotel instead spend time with you. I find not all girls like to do the arriba equally. Oh ya be presentable I guess.

  2. #11826
    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicAlo  [View Original Post]
    The girl with the American BF, was the tattoo up her spine in Chinese?

    I think I know this girl, she's cool.
    That's. Depressing.

    She she sit and watch him work all day too?

  3. #11825
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman306  [View Original Post]
    4. Buy a bucket of beer & insist to the chica & masero that she drinks beers from the bucket & not fischas. They probably don't want to allow this, but if this has worked for anyone please share. Also clarify if the beer bucket was part of getting a VIP room or purchased solo.

    5. Purchase 1 fischa & then covertly pour beer into the mini fischa bottle with tipping the chica. Not sure Mexican chica logic would be able to follow this & the maseros seem to be always lingering nearby.
    Forget about #4. This is not going to happen. #5 I wouldn't get excited about either. The puta is sitting with you largely because she's earning a little bit of money. If you start refilling her ficha, then her income stream comes to a halt. She will likely object. Her opinion of you will surely drop. And if staff sees you do it, you will likely receive a warning and repeat offenders will likely be kicked out or banned.

    There's two ways you can reduce ficha consumption.

    #1. Play with and hold her hands constantly while sitting. If her hands are occupied, she can't grab her ficha to drink it.

    #2. Place an amount of cash on the table. You choose the amount, whether it is $30, $50, $100, or whatever amount you choose. Then pick a reasonable amount of time you wish the chica to sit with you. For example, place $100 on the table. If the average ficha lasts 12 minutes, then typically $100 lasts a 2 hours. Tell her an amount of time longer than 2 hour. Tell her 3 hours. Tell her the $100 on the table is hers to keep after 3 hours, but every ficha she drinks will be paid for from the $100. Watch how fast her ficha consumption slows to a crawl. You win, because you got 50% more table time you would receive for your $100, the puta wins because she will earn much more than the measly $1. 75 she earns per ficha. The only losers are the mesero and HK management. This trick is really for those mongers who enjoy sitting for extended periods with putas. If you just buy 1 or 2 fichas, then reference trick #1.

  4. #11824
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman306  [View Original Post]
    Not quite sure what the best option might be, if any, to avoid spending too much money on fischas. You'll see below that I'm really trying to consider all possible options.

    1. Just walk around doing quick tips & gropes and pick someone for Arriba really quickly. Doing this, of course, you won't be able to spend much time actually inside the club.

    2. Just say No to buying any discuss at all, but the chicas will get up & leave in a minute or two, and soon no more chicas will sit with you & you'll be sitting alone or at stage tipping til you decide your next move.

    3. Simply not go into the big clubs / bars, but then you are limited to street girls or escorts. Street girls are usually not GFE & rushed. Escorts the tend to be more expensive & I don't think many go into zona Norte.

    4. Buy a bucket of beer & insist to the chica & masero that she drinks beers from the bucket & not fischas. They probably don't want to allow this, but if this has worked for anyone please share. Also clarify if the beer bucket was part of getting a VIP room or purchased solo.

    5. Purchase 1 fischa & then covertly pour beer into the mini fischa bottle with tipping the chica. Not sure Mexican chica logic would be able to follow this & the maseros seem to be always lingering nearby.

    6. Ask the chica to drink the fischa very slowly with perhaps an extra trip & strong Arriba chance for her & tell masero to go away & that she is still not finished with 1st fischa.

    Not trying to be a cheap Charlie, but I think most know fischas can be budget killers, and one has to also be concise of how much cash to carry as they could get robbed & their are not the best options available in Tijuana to get more cash.

    Is there 1 option that anyone likes best?
    Unless you're willing to learn Spanish and venture to the smaller, more "local" venues, then you're going to have to swim in the gringo-centric clip joint waters. Your choices are limited. So, suck it up.

    Obviously you can't hang out, schmooze with the chicas, and not buy drinks.

    Escorts are actually a less expensive option. Their prices are hourly, not "almost 30 minutes," and there are no ficha drinks to buy. So, that is a viable option.

    The clubs don't allow the girls to drink from your drinks. Yes, sometimes they might do that on occasion, but it's not allowed.

    Pouring your drink into the girl's drink, again, isn't allowed. You might get by with it occasionally, but you can't get by with that forever.

    You can tell her to drink slowly. But you shouldn't have to. If she pounds the first, kick her out. A decent girl should be make a drink last in the 20 minute neighborhood. If they really like you then it may be longer, sometimes quite a bit longer. But my rule of thumb is 15 - 20 minutes.

    If you're going to troll the club scene, you better be ready to part with some money. Don't be like the jerks I see constantly, who want to drive a BMW or a Mercedes, but are too cheap, or too poor, to maintain it. You have to pay to play, whether it's cars or HK putas.

    BTW, there are plenty of safe options to get cash in TJ, but few are in the Zona Norte.

  5. #11823
    I have found that very few girls in HK are willing to do BJ only. Most of the girls stick to the $100 min for anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigButtDetecto  [View Original Post]
    You are not a good bargainer; average is $70 not 80 and many girls will settle for 60 in HK. Especially on week days. You can always tip them good after but not before.

  6. #11822

    Price

    Quote Originally Posted by StRobert  [View Original Post]
    In Hong Kong, maybe half the girls in the club have a big asses. BBJ rather difficult CBBJ in general. The price is generally $ 80, now I read that the price can be as high as $ 100. This is for sex, the room upstairs for half an hour is $ 15 or $ 17 plus $ 1 is collected by the dude when leaving with the girl from HK to the room upstairs and don't ask me why. - Also a $ 1 tip for a janitor to clean the room after you finish with the girl. Beer $ 4 and $ 5 and a little tip. Short groping of girls in the club - $ 1. (These were the general prices before covid19 in February.).
    You are not a good bargainer; average is $70 not 80 and many girls will settle for 60 in HK. Especially on week days. You can always tip them good after but not before.

  7. #11821
    Quote Originally Posted by BigButtDetecto  [View Original Post]
    I don't drink; I wander inside the club few minutes; I look around if there is anything worth of interest. I tip the girls 1 $ at a time, never the meseros as they are a pain. And if I see a girl I like, I take her to the room uspstairs. No need to linger and get the covid.
    I do the same, or ask the to go to Azul for a drink, makes for a great experience.

  8. #11820
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman306  [View Original Post]
    Not quite sure what the best option might be, if any, to avoid spending too much money on fischas. You'll see below that I'm really trying to consider all possible options.

    1. Just walk around doing quick tips & gropes and pick someone for Arriba really quickly. Doing this, of course, you won't be able to spend much time actually inside the club.

    2. Just say No to buying any discuss at all, but the chicas will get up & leave in a minute or two, and soon no more chicas will sit with you & you'll be sitting alone or at stage tipping til you decide your next move.

    3. Simply not go into the big clubs / bars, but then you are limited to street girls or escorts. Street girls are usually not GFE & rushed. Escorts the tend to be more expensive & I don't think many go into zona Norte.

    4. Buy a bucket of beer & insist to the chica & masero that she drinks beers from the bucket & not fischas. They probably don't want to allow this, but if this has worked for anyone please share. Also clarify if the beer bucket was part of getting a VIP room or purchased solo.

    5. Purchase 1 fischa & then covertly pour beer into the mini fischa bottle with tipping the chica. Not sure Mexican chica logic would be able to follow this & the maseros seem to be always lingering nearby.
    Wow man you are way overthinking it. It's your money so you control where it goes. If you're vibing with a chica, buy her a drink. If not, kick her to the curb. You should get a good read after one drink. Sure you may buy one for each of several chicas before you find what you're looking for but you pay to play. It's a wise investment compared to just taking a dead fish upstairs. Having said all that, things can go perfect downstairs and go off the rails upstairs. It's not an exact science.

  9. #11819

    Fichas

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman306  [View Original Post]
    Not quite sure what the best option might be, if any, to avoid spending too much money on fischas. You'll see below that I'm really trying to consider all possible options.

    1. Just walk around doing quick tips & gropes and pick someone for Arriba really quickly. Doing this, of course, you won't be able to spend much time actually inside the club.

    2. Just say No to buying any discuss at all, but the chicas will get up & leave in a minute or two, and soon no more chicas will sit with you & you'll be sitting alone or at stage tipping til you decide your next move.

    3. Simply not go into the big clubs / bars, but then you are limited to street girls or escorts. Street girls are usually not GFE & rushed. Escorts the tend to be more expensive & I don't think many go into zona Norte.

    4. Buy a bucket of beer & insist to the chica & masero that she drinks beers from the bucket & not fischas. They probably don't want to allow this, but if this has worked for anyone please share. Also clarify if the beer bucket was part of getting a VIP room or purchased solo.

    5. Purchase 1 fischa & then covertly pour beer into the mini fischa bottle with tipping the chica. Not sure Mexican chica logic would be able to follow this & the maseros seem to be always lingering nearby.

    6. Ask the chica to drink the fischa very slowly with perhaps an extra trip & strong Arriba chance for her & tell masero to go away & that she is still not finished with 1st fischa.

    Not trying to be a cheap Charlie, but I think most know fischas can be budget killers, and one has to also be concise of how much cash to carry as they could get robbed & their are not the best options available in Tijuana to get more cash.

    Is there 1 option that anyone likes best?
    I don't drink; I wander inside the club few minutes; I look around if there is anything worth of interest. I tip the girls 1 $ at a time, never the meseros as they are a pain. And if I see a girl I like, I take her to the room uspstairs. No need to linger and get the covid.

  10. #11818

    Fischa Avoidance Options

    Not quite sure what the best option might be, if any, to avoid spending too much money on fischas. You'll see below that I'm really trying to consider all possible options.

    1. Just walk around doing quick tips & gropes and pick someone for Arriba really quickly. Doing this, of course, you won't be able to spend much time actually inside the club.

    2. Just say No to buying any discuss at all, but the chicas will get up & leave in a minute or two, and soon no more chicas will sit with you & you'll be sitting alone or at stage tipping til you decide your next move.

    3. Simply not go into the big clubs / bars, but then you are limited to street girls or escorts. Street girls are usually not GFE & rushed. Escorts the tend to be more expensive & I don't think many go into zona Norte.

    4. Buy a bucket of beer & insist to the chica & masero that she drinks beers from the bucket & not fischas. They probably don't want to allow this, but if this has worked for anyone please share. Also clarify if the beer bucket was part of getting a VIP room or purchased solo.

    5. Purchase 1 fischa & then covertly pour beer into the mini fischa bottle with tipping the chica. Not sure Mexican chica logic would be able to follow this & the maseros seem to be always lingering nearby.

    6. Ask the chica to drink the fischa very slowly with perhaps an extra trip & strong Arriba chance for her & tell masero to go away & that she is still not finished with 1st fischa.

    Not trying to be a cheap Charlie, but I think most know fischas can be budget killers, and one has to also be concise of how much cash to carry as they could get robbed & their are not the best options available in Tijuana to get more cash.

    Is there 1 option that anyone likes best?

  11. #11817
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    A waiter is always supposed to ask the guy if he wants to buy a girl a drink. The good ones ask twice to avoid miscommunication. He's not supposed to take orders from the girl, and he shouldn't be flipping out when I tell him no good, as if he opened a bottle of champagne. I'm supposed to be buying every girl a drink who orders one for herself from a waiter when I'm not even sitting with her, just standing there. Uh no that's not how it goes. That's remnants of the unofficial 7th floor HK, which doesn't have any rules or professional management, leaking into the main HK bar, which is very organized.
    Gee, Mr. Btfsplk. Why does this nonsense happen only to you? I have had meseros in HK try to palm half-finished ficha beers, but I've never had one take an order from a girl. 100% of the time the waiter asks ME if I want to buy a drink. THAT is how it goes.

  12. #11816

    Fichas

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    Had a negative HK experience. Bought 4 drinks for a girl knowing her price was too high for sex, and her knowing the same. But she wanted the ficha credits or she thought ID pay $90. I was never ever gona pay any girl in HK %90. If I had money like that I'd have a attractive GF. After I leave her, she returns with her GF and both flirt for 20 seconds before she tells waiter 2 more fichas. Nobody asked me, the waiter or her. I instantly tell him when he already popped the bottle, no bueno. Between her, her GF, and him, nobody speaks English and the music is too loud anyway. A dude sees what transpires and starts trying to pay for the drinks, but starts lecturing me, that the girls don't work for free. I just dropped 45 on her 4 drinks with propina. I don't like dudes talking to me inch from my face, a waiter or customer. If I'm gona get covid its gona be from a female. Anyway I just walked away went home. Some guys have said the ficha drinks are free from Tecate so him popping 2 beers of 2% alcohol, 6 ounces, wasn't gona make me feel guilty after I just bought her 4 drinks. But I probably will stay out of HK for month. 2 hours earlier, I met a gorgeous 20 year old at a whole in wall bar around corner. But she didn't do enough during her drink to lead. To more.
    I only buy fichas to spend time with a chica while I try to figure out what kind of ride she will give me arriba. As we all know they are a complete rip off. At $10 a piece, yes a dollar for the pain in the ass mesero, I never buy a girl more than 2 and only then when I am sure I want to fuck her and I am just having a sexy fun time in the bar with her. I have tasted a few of the "drinks" they bring them and they had no alcohol in them. Seems to me that if you spent $45 on fichas for one chica you had already paid over half the price of a session. At $60 even closer. Limiting the amount of money wasted on fichas means more money for arribas.

  13. #11815
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    A waiter is always supposed to ask the guy if he wants to buy a girl a drink. The good ones ask twice to avoid miscommunication. He's not supposed to take orders from the girl, and he shouldn't be flipping out when I tell him no good, as if he opened a bottle of champagne.
    I agree 100%. But what is "supposed" to happen and what happens in reality are two different things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    Uh no that's not how it goes. That's remnants of the unofficial 7th floor HK, which doesn't have any rules or professional management, leaking into the main HK bar, which is very organized.
    It is how it goes, unfortunately. A waiter bringing an unapproved ficha happened all the time in the old HK, it is not some sort of carryover misdeed that originated in the penthouses. I've had numerous meseros bring me unapproved fichas in HK. I just completely ignore them. Then after a couple of minutes, the puta will politely inform me that a mesero is trying to get my attention, as if I hadn't realized. I'll just shrug my shoulders and say something like "no me importa mesero" (I don't care about the mesero.) If it's a puta that I was going to buy a ficha for anyway, I'll order a ficha from a different mesero just out of spite. It's one of the special rare joys I get in HK watching the face of the mesero who's been hovering over me with a ficha for 5 minutes looking on as another mesero gets paid and tipped for "his" ficha. I remember once in 2016 I was standing right by the main stage and I bought a puta a ficha. She was an old friend that I was no longer interested in. So my plan was just to buy her one. She finished it and mesero #74 Ricardo, a little midget troll-looking motherfucker, comes by and asks if I want to buy another. I clearly shook my head no and then he looks at the puta and she nods her head yes. I knew what was coming so I left the area. A couple of minutes later I feel that little troll keep tapping me on my back. I tell him no and he keeps on tapping my back saying "$8. " I finally turn around and explode at him, I get right in his face and scream "get the fuck out of here I didn't order anything. " he then goes crying and runs off to get a security guy. The security guy gets close enough to see who I am and he just turns right back around. To this day that POS Ricardo won't come within 10 feet of me.

  14. #11814
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    You know how it works, how do these situations always happen to you, this never happens to me.
    All the waiters that I have dealt with in this situation made sure to confirm the order with me, and not just take a ficha order only from the bar girl.

    That's how I understand it works, and how it's been done with me.

  15. #11813
    It happens. A known rob at Adalitas tried to sweet talk me into a drink and I politely declined. She got mad and ordered herself a drink and sat on my lap. The mesaro rushes over with the drink and I tell them to get lost because I never asked for anything. Desperate times call for desperate measures sometimes.

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