Hong Kong Club Reports

[Phordphan]

For better or worse, the local, Mexican feel at LC is in its final days.

*Sigh* True. It was one of the last hold-outs.

[Juan Carter]

Not only pollution but high altitude as well. Not over 8 K ft but still enough to affect people. CDMX has a issue with cold temps and high altitude lack of heat in many hotels. Those are the downsides. May is a great month to visit. Before the rains and warm enough not to freeze at night. Bring warm sleeping clothes.

It never freezes in CDMX. Its last snowfall was 5 cm on January 11, 1967 which was the worst winter storm in recorded history. Its previous snowfall was in 1941. The reason the hotels are not heated is because of the temperate climate. It does get relatively cold at night during its six weeks of winter but an extra blanket is sufficient and try not to sleep alone. A light jacket is recommended all year round after dark. Most chilangos swelter during May when the highs average 81 and the lows average 57. December's highs will be in the low 70's and lows in the 40's. January is the coldest month, its average high is 71 and the average low is 45. The altitude is trouble for some but I have never personally had a problem. Air quality has improved substantially in the past decades but is still a major problem. https://www.accuweather.com/en/mx/me...weather/242560.

[Dcrist0527]

Every woman living in Tijuana knows about the ZN, and about how much money could (potentially) be made by working in a club. Yet relatively few do so. If you wander about Tijuana proper, you'll see loads of pretty women. Yet few, if any, are prostitutes. Why is that? Because only a small percentage of women, in general, wish to be hookers. And a very small percentage of those could be considered "beautiful. ".

Fair points made by all in this discussion. And while I agree there is not an endless supply, limiting it to Tijuana is not a fair point. HK picks up girls from the airport almost daily. Much of the talent comes from other areas of Mexico.

I think Sinful had a point. While I don't think this will add significant revenue for HK in the short term, it will raise the bar at LC. And that's where I would say there is more opportunity to raise the bar on the quality of chicas. For better or worse, the local, Mexican feel at LC is in its final days. Pros and cons have been listed. But the less attractive girls will be pushed out.

[LuvMexicanas]

IMHO, the flaw in your argument is that there is not an inexhaustible supply of "beautiful" putas. There's no great untapped reserve of beautiful women who would be working in HK but for space restrictions. Were that the case, the ZN would be a lot larger than it is, and more bars would have what you consider "quality" women. Every woman living in Tijuana knows about the ZN, and about how much money could (potentially) be made by working in a club. Yet relatively few do so. If you wander about Tijuana proper, you'll see loads of pretty women. Yet few, if any, are prostitutes. Why is that? Because only a small percentage of women, in general, wish to be hookers. And a very small percentage of those could be considered "beautiful. ".

Every bar manager with two brain cells to rub together knows that it's in their bar's best interest to recruit beautiful women. If they could, all the women would look like HK girls. But they can't. Why not? Obviously, one reason is that tastes vary and one must cater to one's target market. But another is that the demand for women who match the HK prototype exceeds the supply.

So, I don't think HK's expansion is going to result in a sudden influx of beautiful hookers. Time will tell.

I'm inclined to agree, as very few girls tell themselves when I grow up, I want to have strange me shove their cocks, fingers and tongues in my pussy, arse and / or mouth.

[RickyVee]

Arrived around 930. More girls than guys sat and drank a couple beer. Turned a few girls down most seem more aggressive than before Covid. All of a sudden a girl I hooked up with a while back recognized me immediately and sat on my lap. Bought her a drink went to the VIP got some dome action for 30 minutes played with her pussy until she was drippy. Got her hot and bothered she wanted $100 she is def top to mid tier. Only had $1500 pesos she agreed to 1200 super steal. Went to the room took care of business. So it is definitely a buyers market she said biz really slow so even though they want a hundred if you give the vibe you will walk off lot they will usually cave. Off topic the Eduardo hotel completely black think it got shut down because of shooting no cuantos guys out front no longer.

[Hargow20]

Shootings are really rare in the Zona thankfully. Usually the dealers are not a concern. Most of them don't seem like gang members. I wish the cops would crack down and arrest the dealers in the Zona. The real concern is the ratero's. The ratero's are have disappeared for the most part. But it is always a good idea to see who is walking behind you. The shootings could be sign that street crime is on the rise again. So it is a good idea to use due caution.

Sometimes I wonder if it would be in the bar owners' best interest to run the street dealers out of the zona. I mean if it weren't for hardcore addictive drugs being sold freely the zona wouldn't be nearly as dangerous as it is and more gringos would feel more comfortable about coming down to spend their $$ There wouldn't be near as many street rats and beggars. It would probably cut down on police corruption as well, since no more dealers for the crooked cops to cooperate with.

[Phordphan]

You misunderstand. I don't think there will be more shops to choose from. I think there will be more quality putas to choose from, because the standards will be raised. I think the lower quality girls that were at LC will get weeded out and quality at LC will get better.

And again, you list the pros and cons, but to me and many others, there's only 1 pro and con: Pro: Better looking putas. Con: Prices go up. 4 out of your 5 cons were about prices. The last one, tracking down putas, I feel like cancels itself out with (hopefully) the increase in number of beautiful putas. If LC gets as many beautiful putas as HK, it shouldn't matter that you couldn't find that one puta. And that's exactly what I mean by homogenization (of shops) not necessarily meaning less choices (of putas) for us. Hope you understand what I meant now.

Other than that, I don't see the value in continuing this discussion. You and I obviously have different values and we're not going to agree. I just wanted to clear up the misunderstanding of my statement.

IMHO, the flaw in your argument is that there is not an inexhaustible supply of "beautiful" putas. There's no great untapped reserve of beautiful women who would be working in HK but for space restrictions. Were that the case, the ZN would be a lot larger than it is, and more bars would have what you consider "quality" women. Every woman living in Tijuana knows about the ZN, and about how much money could (potentially) be made by working in a club. Yet relatively few do so. If you wander about Tijuana proper, you'll see loads of pretty women. Yet few, if any, are prostitutes. Why is that? Because only a small percentage of women, in general, wish to be hookers. And a very small percentage of those could be considered "beautiful. ".

Every bar manager with two brain cells to rub together knows that it's in their bar's best interest to recruit beautiful women. If they could, all the women would look like HK girls. But they can't. Why not? Obviously, one reason is that tastes vary and one must cater to one's target market. But another is that the demand for women who match the HK prototype exceeds the supply.

So, I don't think HK's expansion is going to result in a sudden influx of beautiful hookers. Time will tell.

[Captain Solo]

Nexropet.

Should be $5-6, no more. Swap a 2-4-1 coupon at front desk and you get 2 drinks for 1 price.

I ordered some complex drinks like Pina Colada, Margarita, sex on the beach ect and they were $5.

[Cocr Brotheler]

Cocr,

You are a nice and generous guy, a credit to US Navy for having developed guys like you.

Their hungry wives and kids will definitely happy to know there are still people who care about others.

+ that Solo. Many of the people down there are great, solid, dependable, hard working! In the USA We have some social safety nets, down there very little.

[SinfullyKorean]

I'm afraid you've completely missed the point. Almost your entire post is spent trying to convince me that HK is the top bar, with the most and highest quality chicas. I agree. No one is disputing that. HK has been wildly successful up until this point, largely because they have the most and hottest chicas.

But that's not the point being discussed here. The debate is, whether HK's annexation of LC will benefit the average monger. It most definitely will not. But you seem to be in favor of it. Your position is in contrary to well-accepted economic theory. No educated economist will agree with you. Less competition is bad for the consumer. Period. Why do you think monopoly's are either illegal or highly regulated?

So with HK / LC "portal" being installed, how does that benefit the monger? Let's see.

1) HK customers no longer must exit, then enter LC to see LC chicas. I can't think of any other benefit.

How about disadvantages?

1) Beer prices doubled at LC.

2) Ficha price increase at LC.

3) Likely increase in arriba prices from LC putas.

4) Potential cover charge at LC.

5) Putas will be harder to track down.

To you, you're driving 4 hours to find hot chicas. Understandable. You don't care about paying a few extra bucks for drinks. But tell me, are the heffers that work at LC all of a sudden going to look like Ariana Grande once they walk through the magic portal? Of course not, they're going to stay the same. The chicas you will find will not get any hotter. So what is the advantage that you perceive?

I have no idea what you mean here. You're inferring that AB / CC will have to step up their game because they built a portal inside HK / LC? Makes no sense.

This is where I have serious doubts about whether you actually know what the word "homogenization" even means. So here is the official definition:

Homogenization "The process of making things uniform or similar."

So homogenization, be definition, means less choice.

You misunderstand. I don't think there will be more shops to choose from. I think there will be more quality putas to choose from, because the standards will be raised. I think the lower quality girls that were at LC will get weeded out and quality at LC will get better.

And again, you list the pros and cons, but to me and many others, there's only 1 pro and con: Pro: Better looking putas. Con: Prices go up. 4 out of your 5 cons were about prices. The last one, tracking down putas, I feel like cancels itself out with (hopefully) the increase in number of beautiful putas. If LC gets as many beautiful putas as HK, it shouldn't matter that you couldn't find that one puta. And that's exactly what I mean by homogenization (of shops) not necessarily meaning less choices (of putas) for us. Hope you understand what I meant now.

Other than that, I don't see the value in continuing this discussion. You and I obviously have different values and we're not going to agree. I just wanted to clear up the misunderstanding of my statement.

[Necropet]

How much are the Jack and Coke drinks running for (for me not the putas) nowadays?

[Captain Solo]

Cocr,

You are a nice and generous guy, a credit to US Navy for having developed guys like you.

Their hungry wives and kids will definitely happy to know there are still people who care about others.

[ClamSlammer]

I agree combining the clubs is bad for guys who like to save some money and also find girls who make 3 times the effort of a HK chick. My routine on weekends was 15 minutes HK for my free beer, and leave for a emptier bar like Chavelas or Chicago. Even other bars I've been to them all. Hong Kong was exploding with business the last couple years before covid hit. In just 6 years since my 1st HK visit, a lot prices went up, from VIP card, hotel, no more free lap dance coupons, the club was packed like sardines on weekends and Thursday too. The girls prices went up by 30, HK realized they got the whole continent by the balls, its the place to be, the club was at max capacity on weekends, they were building that new side for a long long time felt like a year or two, unless some other construction was going on. They probably figured they needed to triple size of Hong Kong, for now, and 2,4,8 years down the line. And figured let's use Chavelas too as part of our expansion since HK is 20 x more popular. And if all this area were to reach max capacity, then they would probably knock out Azul or something and put Azul somewhere else, and on and on.

In my view, the past 10 years there hasn't been much of a change in the amount of customers in the Zona. On weekends, HK and AB would be packed. TB would be busy and so would LC for the most part. The only club I noticed a major change is CC. Before the remodel, I hadn't ever seen more than 2 tables occupied there, and that includes primetime weekend hours. And now after the remodel, it gets fairly busy on weekends.

HK does not need the additional space. Remember, they close off the upstairs alley section midweek because there aren't enough customers. And now they just double the size of the club in order to accommodate a crowd two days a week and leave it shut down 5 days? The ROI will be pitifully low. Honestly, I think the amount of new customers that HK will attract due to the new section and less crowding will be negligible. Even pre-covid, Monday-Tuesday crowds were sparse. The decision to invest in the construction to double the size of the club will not pay any dividends.

[Cocr Brotheler]

"I would tip them a few bucks, especially in the holiday seasons like Christmas. ".

+ this. I'm bringing $5 US bills for them for their risk as well as economically they have been hit so hard.

[Captain Solo]

Jinxx.

Unlike the rest of Tijuana, La Zona looks like the hottest sales spot for chicas and people who make good money off them. The chicas always disappear after sessions to take their hits. The cartels control those sales spots. How are you going to tell them to go away? Policias patrols are always in that area while the dealers sell their shit unmolested.

I have seen dealers selling in front of Chavelas' front door, hid his stash on the air con machine near the banos, running in and out to get his supply. Have not seen them recently. Edouardo used to have 4 younger guys selling; sometimes they would go up Azul's balcony to drink. 2 week ago an older guy took over that spot, the 4 young guys were gone. He must have been from another cartel trying to take over and was shot dead last Sunday. BTW HK told me that was the only shooting; no other shootings in or near HK after that.

There are also groups of dealers in front of Malquerida, hotels Rapido and Michoacan, men and women mumbling "Cuanto, cuanto. " A few were shot dead there too. To be safe, don't wander too much in the alley, stay clear of dealers, keep your asses inside bars and sniff pussies where it's safe.