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09-14-20 05:24 #11499
Posts: 6522Fichas' sliding scale
A few years back the spinner America got HK's awards as the highest fichas seller a couple months in a row. Her picture was posted in the girls' locker room on third floor.
She was good with her bullshit. One time she knocked down 10 fake Tequila shots while sitting with my wingman about 1 hour. Then she got emotional, said they are such good friends now that she could not fuck him again! What a a crock of bullshit, but it sells. My wingman was a nice, generous but fairly naive guy. He completely ran out of cash and savings not long after.
She said the fichas' redeemed value is not fixed but are variable on a sliding scale, based on how many the girls sold a month. Some months she sold a lot and earned up to 70% of the ordered drinks. With recognition, awards, sliding-scale kick back, HK really pushes the girls to compete and sell more fichas. They succeed wildly. Many guys treat the girls as confidantes, buying them drinks just to sit and talk all night.
I hate to buy drinks for stupid, ugly girls who think I am also stupid and give me their big loads of bullshit. If I target a girl for a session, I would buy her drinks to feel her up, check her assets, figure out how sweet and sexy she would be in bed. If I am not taking any girls to bed, I don't buy drinks just to sit with girls because I cannot talk worth a damn in Spanish, not in that noisy bar anyway. Well, I broke the rule a few times with a few new girls, so beautiful, nice, sweet and gentle, bought them drinks just to admire their beauty and grace when I was completely out of ammo.
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09-13-20 00:36 #11498
Posts: 182Originally Posted by KCQuestor [View Original Post]
It's a never ending discussion.
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09-13-20 00:31 #11497
Posts: 182Ficha ticket
No longer 34 pesos / ticket at the new speakeasy!
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09-12-20 20:53 #11496
Posts: 841Originally Posted by Dcrist0527 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Dcrist0527 [View Original Post]
A girl is arriba-only because she believes she will make more money in the long run looking for other guys to take her to the room rather than earning 34 pesos by sitting with you for 15 minutes. If she's a popular girl she's probably right.
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09-12-20 18:24 #11495
Posts: 408Originally Posted by StRobert [View Original Post]
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09-12-20 15:32 #11494
Posts: 2794HK Girls
Girls definitely give money to the house, both directly and indirectly, probably way more indirectly. Many of the girls stay in the Hotel for weeks at I time or longer, they eat all there meals at Azul, tips, and spend money at the Hotel. Many hardly in leave HK or Hotel. Then you have the drink tickets. As I have said before I think it is sliding scale and loosely enforced, so there is 2 sets of rules, maybe more. Yes, they definitely know who is producing and who is not, just not that hard to track. HK is a business and very good one. True the girls do not pay directly like in the states, but the girls do pay, probably way more then we will every know.
As far as tipping. When I started tipping it became a way better experience. I tip the when I check in to the Hotels (Trust well worth it, those guys give me drink tickets and other things now), Security and bartenders. You guys complain about security, but if they were not there is would be a mad house and not safe at all. Police would be all over the place and not in a good way. I do not deal with the waiters at HK,(they are pain in the ass), I also tip at Azul, but I spend little money there, compared to time. It is small money and especially now they need it.
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09-12-20 14:41 #11493
Posts: 2794Originally Posted by Dogers69 [View Original Post]
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09-12-20 10:39 #11492
Posts: 763Originally Posted by AmorPorFavor [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by JamesKm1984 [View Original Post]
You say that HK would "surely go bust" because of the "number of staff" they have to pay being open 24/7. That statement reveals your ignorance on the subject. The "staff" you see everywhere in HK, meaning meseros, you think HK pays them? Nope. The truth is the staff pays HK to work there. The meseros, robe guy and limo drivers all pay HK to work there. So the exact opposite is true of what you said. HK doesn't pay the meseros that you see working. The meseros pays management. Managers, security and cleaning crew get paid wages / salary. The meseros are in the hole the second they start their shift.
Funny thing how you mention selling drinks in NYC. It actually weakens your argument instead of supporting it. Because you don't consider the cost of doing business in Tijuana vs. NYC. Rent is a fraction of the cost in Tijuana as in NYC. Labor costs as well. A janitor at HK may earn, what, $15 usd daily? Same job in NYC is probably $120 daily. Rent, labor, utilities, maintenance, overhead, business licenses. All much cheaper in Tijuana so the markups on alcohol don't have to be as high. But wait, HK's "markup isn't as bad" as a nightclub in NYC? Ficha drinks the markup is far worse. HK sells bottles of Kirkland water for $27 usd. 7 oz bottles of beer for $9 usd. Don't forget the bullshit glass of pineapple juice with no alcohol for $9. No NYC club has prices that high. Monger beers and bottle service, yes the markup isn't near as bad as a NYC club.
Lastly, you're insisting HK has a stage fee because you heard it from one puta. Who has a financial motive to lie to you. You probably don't even know her real name. And you believe her. Me, I'm taking the word of 200 putas. None of which I've ever paid a single peso. All of which I know on a very personal level. And none of these 200+ putas have ever said there is any type of quota or stage fee.
*and as far as your supposed stage fee of "$300" do you mean pesos or dollars? Even though neither exist, if you actually think HK charges a daily $300 usd stage fee, then that would be about $150,000 usd on a typical weekend day. So $300,000 on a typical weekend and maybe $660,000 usd weekly assuming approximately 2200 shifts pre-covid. That is nearly $3 million a month in stage fees alone. LOL.
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09-12-20 09:28 #11491
Posts: 6522The art of the deals
JamesKm.
Yep. Strip clubs in US have clipboard guys watch girls like hawks, sticking their ugly faces into dark VIP booths, counting every song and every lap dance to take their cuts.
If HK takes down chicas' names, it can only be for charging them for the arribas. Cascada does the same thing, taking down names every time they rent rooms with guys so they can give them kick back for the room fee. 20% of $18 is $4.50 for each use. Even street girls get a 20 pesos kick back from Cascada every time. Paola told me about this incentive system. Strippers have to kickback about 20% of their tips to stage hands. Everyone is on incentive.
It's likely HK debits each girl a daily fee to work. They are expected to offset this fee with fichas and / or arribas credit But $300 a day is way too high, more likely 300 pesos which the girls can pay for with 3 fichas or 1 arriba. Believe me HK and putas bars are not the International Red Cross. They would never let any girls use their venue to make money without charging them. These guys all have comprehensive incentive plans for everyone working in their bars, designed to maximize their profit.
HK could teach Fortune 500 execs how to maximize profit while screwing their fresh, sexy inventory with high turn over.
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09-12-20 08:26 #11490
Posts: 3192Originally Posted by JamesKm1984 [View Original Post]
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09-12-20 07:10 #11489
Posts: 766Video inside Hong Kong club
I found this video on the internet. Two guys are allowed only 1 hour to film inside Hong Kong Club (before Covid 19). Here is the link enjoy https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.p...h59de2fa478ce2.
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09-12-20 04:34 #11488
Posts: 1459Originally Posted by JamesKm1984 [View Original Post]
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09-12-20 02:28 #11487
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by JamesKm1984 [View Original Post]Originally Posted by JamesKm1984 [View Original Post]
There are so many incorrect funny things that you believe.
Like that Hong Kong Bar could ever get a flat $300 house fee from their chicas.
And then charge the chicas a cut of their sex session fees on top of (in addition to) the flat $300 house fee. Hilarious!
But your closing joke of Hong Kong paying each of the +100 chicas that show up $300 a night is a great closer for your bit. Don't change it. I'm still laughing.
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09-12-20 01:28 #11486
Posts: 36Originally Posted by AmorPorFavor [View Original Post]
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09-12-20 00:58 #11485
Posts: 560Ficha quota?
I have noticed that when I buy a ficha the mesero makes some kind of note or does something to a small piece of paper and hands it back to the puta. I think the chica first hands it to the mesero. I saw it once and it has numbers on it. Can't recall all the details because I'm usually pretty drunk and not paying that much attention but I have seen something like that so not sure what's going on. I definitely saw it the last time I was there in early March before the lockdown.