Hong Kong Club Reports

[Captain Solo]

A few years back the spinner America got HK's awards as the highest fichas seller a couple months in a row. Her picture was posted in the girls' locker room on third floor.

She was good with her bullshit. One time she knocked down 10 fake Tequila shots while sitting with my wingman about 1 hour. Then she got emotional, said they are such good friends now that she could not fuck him again! What a a crock of bullshit, but it sells. My wingman was a nice, generous but fairly naive guy. He completely ran out of cash and savings not long after.

She said the fichas' redeemed value is not fixed but are variable on a sliding scale, based on how many the girls sold a month. Some months she sold a lot and earned up to 70% of the ordered drinks. With recognition, awards, sliding-scale kick back, HK really pushes the girls to compete and sell more fichas. They succeed wildly. Many guys treat the girls as confidantes, buying them drinks just to sit and talk all night.

I hate to buy drinks for stupid, ugly girls who think I am also stupid and give me their big loads of bullshit. If I target a girl for a session, I would buy her drinks to feel her up, check her assets, figure out how sweet and sexy she would be in bed. If I am not taking any girls to bed, I don't buy drinks just to sit with girls because I cannot talk worth a damn in Spanish, not in that noisy bar anyway. Well, I broke the rule a few times with a few new girls, so beautiful, nice, sweet and gentle, bought them drinks just to admire their beauty and grace when I was completely out of ammo.

[Asting]

A lot depends on the word "quota". Do I believe there is a hard rule about how many drinks a woman has to sell in a shift, or even a week? No. But I do believe they keep track of who sells the most and who doesn't. Maybe the ones who sell few drinks get a talking to. Maybe they don't get scheduled on the shifts they want. Maybe they get sent to Tropical or Chavelas. Maybe a lot of arribas makes up for few fichas. I don't know. But I do know that girls have every incentive to tell guys that they have a hard quota, so that guys will buy more drinks. And every time a girl tells some guy she has a quota, that quota is ludicrously impossible. I've heard 500 drinks a week, or 100 a week, or 20 a shift. And then you see the scores of girls who line the club who stand there for hours upon hours and never sit with a guy and you realize that there's no way the vast majority of the girls would meet any kind of quota.

Because they make 34 pesos on a ficha in Hong Kong. For some girls, that's significant. For others, less so. I had one girl order two drinks without asking me if that was ok. When I accused the girl of trying to scam me for fichas, she tried to argue that she just wanted the drinks and didn't care about the ficha. She said, "It's less than two dollars, what's the difference?" . She even ripped it up in front of me before storming off. I've offered lots of girls a tip in lieu of a ficha and they almost invariably take it (some claim they really want the drink). If they had a quota, then a ficha would be worth more than 34 pesos. On my last trip I was in Adelita Bar. I ordered a drink for a girl and the bartender set it down but forgot to charge me for it. I asked the girl if she wanted me to pay the bartender for the drink so she could get her ficha, or would she prefer a tip directly? She said the ficha was 50 pesos, so as long as I tipped her more than that, she'd rather have the tip..

Exactly!

It's a never ending discussion.

[Asting]

No longer 34 pesos / ticket at the new speakeasy!

[KC Questor]

Call it what you want. Quota. Threshold. Multiplier. But there is a tie between the number of arribas and the payout of fichas. But it's a pointless argument. Tell me I'm wrong. OK. I have no interest in being crowned HK politics king.

A lot depends on the word "quota". Do I believe there is a hard rule about how many drinks a woman has to sell in a shift, or even a week? No. But I do believe they keep track of who sells the most and who doesn't. Maybe the ones who sell few drinks get a talking to. Maybe they don't get scheduled on the shifts they want. Maybe they get sent to Tropical or Chavelas. Maybe a lot of arribas makes up for few fichas. I don't know. But I do know that girls have every incentive to tell guys that they have a hard quota, so that guys will buy more drinks. And every time a girl tells some guy she has a quota, that quota is ludicrously impossible. I've heard 500 drinks a week, or 100 a week, or 20 a shift. And then you see the scores of girls who line the club who stand there for hours upon hours and never sit with a guy and you realize that there's no way the vast majority of the girls would meet any kind of quota.

If someone is arriba only, they will make absolutely nothing on fichas. So why would they bother trying to sell a ficha?

Because they make 34 pesos on a ficha in Hong Kong. For some girls, that's significant. For others, less so. I had one girl order two drinks without asking me if that was ok. When I accused the girl of trying to scam me for fichas, she tried to argue that she just wanted the drinks and didn't care about the ficha. She said, "It's less than two dollars, what's the difference?" . She even ripped it up in front of me before storming off. I've offered lots of girls a tip in lieu of a ficha and they almost invariably take it (some claim they really want the drink). If they had a quota, then a ficha would be worth more than 34 pesos. On my last trip I was in Adelita Bar. I ordered a drink for a girl and the bartender set it down but forgot to charge me for it. I asked the girl if she wanted me to pay the bartender for the drink so she could get her ficha, or would she prefer a tip directly? She said the ficha was 50 pesos, so as long as I tipped her more than that, she'd rather have the tip.

A girl is arriba-only because she believes she will make more money in the long run looking for other guys to take her to the room rather than earning 34 pesos by sitting with you for 15 minutes. If she's a popular girl she's probably right.

[JPF]

I found this video on the internet. Two guys are allowed only 1 hour to film inside Hong Kong Club (before Covid 19). Here is the link enjoy https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.p...h59de2fa478ce2.

They got access because it is basically an are-rated commercial for Hong Kong. The girls are all wearing bikinis. It was shot during the day and there were virtually no other guys in there. That being said, if you have never been there is was a good representation of what goes on. Just tamed down. And the give away to the complicity is that they praise the waiters / meseros.

[DramaFree11]

Girls definitely give money to the house, both directly and indirectly, probably way more indirectly. Many of the girls stay in the Hotel for weeks at I time or longer, they eat all there meals at Azul, tips, and spend money at the Hotel. Many hardly in leave HK or Hotel. Then you have the drink tickets. As I have said before I think it is sliding scale and loosely enforced, so there is 2 sets of rules, maybe more. Yes, they definitely know who is producing and who is not, just not that hard to track. HK is a business and very good one. True the girls do not pay directly like in the states, but the girls do pay, probably way more then we will every know.

As far as tipping. When I started tipping it became a way better experience. I tip the when I check in to the Hotels (Trust well worth it, those guys give me drink tickets and other things now), Security and bartenders. You guys complain about security, but if they were not there is would be a mad house and not safe at all. Police would be all over the place and not in a good way. I do not deal with the waiters at HK,(they are pain in the ass), I also tip at Azul, but I spend little money there, compared to time. It is small money and especially now they need it.

[DramaFree11]

I love the magical floor mats in Tijuana in every store bar and restaurant have. We would of solved coronavirus by now in the states with this secret maneuver.

Yes, it is works real well. I even had to get into a booth in one of the better Restaurants in MTY, the spray you with a light mist. Crazy, they are way more paranoid about the virus in Mexico, especially women. Better safe then sorry.

[ClamSlammer]

I have noticed that when I buy a ficha the mesero makes some kind of note or does something to a small piece of paper and hands it back to the puta. I think the chica first hands it to the mesero. I saw it once and it has numbers on it. Can't recall all the details because I'm usually pretty drunk and not paying that much attention but I have seen something like that so not sure what's going on. I definitely saw it the last time I was there in early March before the lockdown.

The term "ficha" in Spanish actually means "ticket. " But in Mexican mongering circles the word has become synonymous with "puta drink" because with the purchase of a puta drink, comes a ficha in which the puta cashes in at a later time. Every time a puta is bought a $9 usd drink, she is given a ficha by the mesero, who writes his mesero number or name on it along with the puta's name. Fichas usually have a serial number and date either stamped or written. HK pays out $34 mx for each ficha. And there is absolutely no ficha quota. Whether a chica earns 100 fichas or 0 fichas, there is no bonus or penalty threshold. I've attached a photo of some fichas from Amnesia, CC, Tropical and HK for review. HK and Tropical use the same fichas.

Then it's a miracle that HK is still open then if they're not taking a house fee. A place that is running 24/7 with the number of staff that it has would surely go bust. Think about it 100 girls x $300 = $30000 a night. You can only make so much selling alcohol, and the mark up isn't as bad as a like a nightclub in NYC. Also, a house fee wouldn't be considered pimping; it's paying rent as an independent worker.

Like I said, what I was told was directly from a girl. Like I truly don't see why she would make this up.

It's no miracle that HK can stay open without charging stage fees. Don't take this the wrong way, but you are totally clueless when it comes to how HK is run. Don't get offended, I'm not calling you stupid. I'm just saying you know absolutely nothing about how HK is structured. And you're debating the Internet's undisputed foremost authority on HK. So allow me to explain how HK is run.

You say that HK would "surely go bust" because of the "number of staff" they have to pay being open 24/7. That statement reveals your ignorance on the subject. The "staff" you see everywhere in HK, meaning meseros, you think HK pays them? Nope. The truth is the staff pays HK to work there. The meseros, robe guy and limo drivers all pay HK to work there. So the exact opposite is true of what you said. HK doesn't pay the meseros that you see working. The meseros pays management. Managers, security and cleaning crew get paid wages / salary. The meseros are in the hole the second they start their shift.

Funny thing how you mention selling drinks in NYC. It actually weakens your argument instead of supporting it. Because you don't consider the cost of doing business in Tijuana vs. NYC. Rent is a fraction of the cost in Tijuana as in NYC. Labor costs as well. A janitor at HK may earn, what, $15 usd daily? Same job in NYC is probably $120 daily. Rent, labor, utilities, maintenance, overhead, business licenses. All much cheaper in Tijuana so the markups on alcohol don't have to be as high. But wait, HK's "markup isn't as bad" as a nightclub in NYC? Ficha drinks the markup is far worse. HK sells bottles of Kirkland water for $27 usd. 7 oz bottles of beer for $9 usd. Don't forget the bullshit glass of pineapple juice with no alcohol for $9. No NYC club has prices that high. Monger beers and bottle service, yes the markup isn't near as bad as a NYC club.

Lastly, you're insisting HK has a stage fee because you heard it from one puta. Who has a financial motive to lie to you. You probably don't even know her real name. And you believe her. Me, I'm taking the word of 200 putas. None of which I've ever paid a single peso. All of which I know on a very personal level. And none of these 200+ putas have ever said there is any type of quota or stage fee.

*and as far as your supposed stage fee of "$300" do you mean pesos or dollars? Even though neither exist, if you actually think HK charges a daily $300 usd stage fee, then that would be about $150,000 usd on a typical weekend day. So $300,000 on a typical weekend and maybe $660,000 usd weekly assuming approximately 2200 shifts pre-covid. That is nearly $3 million a month in stage fees alone. LOL.

[Captain Solo]

JamesKm.

Yep. Strip clubs in US have clipboard guys watch girls like hawks, sticking their ugly faces into dark VIP booths, counting every song and every lap dance to take their cuts.

If HK takes down chicas' names, it can only be for charging them for the arribas. Cascada does the same thing, taking down names every time they rent rooms with guys so they can give them kick back for the room fee. 20% of $18 is $4.50 for each use. Even street girls get a 20 pesos kick back from Cascada every time. Paola told me about this incentive system. Strippers have to kickback about 20% of their tips to stage hands. Everyone is on incentive.

It's likely HK debits each girl a daily fee to work. They are expected to offset this fee with fichas and / or arribas credit But $300 a day is way too high, more likely 300 pesos which the girls can pay for with 3 fichas or 1 arriba. Believe me HK and putas bars are not the International Red Cross. They would never let any girls use their venue to make money without charging them. These guys all have comprehensive incentive plans for everyone working in their bars, designed to maximize their profit.

HK could teach Fortune 500 execs how to maximize profit while screwing their fresh, sexy inventory with high turn over.

[Phordphan]

Then it's a miracle that HK is still open then if they're not taking a house fee. A place that is running 24/7 with the number of staff that it has would surely go bust. Think about it 100 girls x $300 = $30000 a night. You can only make so much selling alcohol, and the mark up isn't as bad as a like a nightclub in NYC. Also, a house fee wouldn't be considered pimping; it's paying rent as an independent worker.

Like I said, what I was told was directly from a girl. Like I truly don't see why she would make this up.

Are you kidding? The profit on the beer alone is staggering. The retail price of a bottle of local beer in OXXO runs around 17 pesos. Under $1. The wholesale price is going to be maybe half of that, give or take. HK sells one for $5. I am told by the relative of one of the bartenders that the ficha beers are free to the club. A sort of "bonus" for buying lots of Tecate, or something. I don't know. Anyway, they sell each for $9, of which they kick back a paltry 30 or 40 pesos to the girl (or whatever pissy little amount it is now). The gazillion meseros running around don't cost them a centavo. Every mesero who works there has to pay to work. How that's legal I have no idea, but it's true. Technically Cascadas Hotel is a different company, but that's a polite fiction. What's the going rate for a room now? $20 for 30 minutes? Have they pushed it up to $30 yet like Chicago? With or without cuts of the girls' earnings, they are making bank. Or at least pre-Covid.

[StRobert]

I found this video on the internet. Two guys are allowed only 1 hour to film inside Hong Kong Club (before Covid 19). Here is the link enjoy https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.p...h59de2fa478ce2.

[Dogers69]

Then it's a miracle that HK is still open then if they're not taking a house fee. A place that is running 24/7 with the number of staff that it has would surely go bust. Think about it 100 girls x $300 = $30000 a night. You can only make so much selling alcohol, and the mark up isn't as bad as a like a nightclub in NYC. Also, a house fee wouldn't be considered pimping; it's paying rent as an independent worker.

Like I said, what I was told was directly from a girl. Like I truly don't see why she would make this up.

I don't know if girls pay, but HK ain't hurting for money. They get a big cut of that 9 dollar 20 cent beer the girl drinks. Your 4 dollar beer cost them probably 60 cents. Then you got the ballers who drop 3 grand on liquor no problem. The waiters pay to work.

[ScatManDoo]

That's pretty messed up. Not sure if it's still the same from when I went a few years ago, but I remember a chica that turned into a temp GF during my stay saying that they only paid a flat house fee of $300. Granted, this was like 3-4 years ago. If they're also taking a cut of from going upstairs, then that's pretty messed up. Like I know in the US, strip clubs will either take a percentage of all lap dances (hence the omnipresent "clipboard guy". Hate that fucker) or it's a flat rate. But to take both is messed up.

Then it's a miracle that HK is still open then if they're not taking a house fee. A place that is running 24/7 with the number of staff that it has would surely go bust. Think about it 100 girls x $300 = $30000 a night. You can only make so much selling alcohol, and the mark up isn't as bad as a like a nightclub in NYC. Also, a house fee wouldn't be considered pimping; it's paying rent as an independent worker.

Like I said, what I was told was directly from a girl. Like I truly don't see why she would make this up.

You false beliefs of how money flows in Hong Kong Bar is laugh-out-loud funny.

There are so many incorrect funny things that you believe.

Like that Hong Kong Bar could ever get a flat $300 house fee from their chicas.

And then charge the chicas a cut of their sex session fees on top of (in addition to) the flat $300 house fee. Hilarious!

But your closing joke of Hong Kong paying each of the +100 chicas that show up $300 a night is a great closer for your bit. Don't change it. I'm still laughing.

[Tommy310]

I have noticed that when I buy a ficha the mesero makes some kind of note or does something to a small piece of paper and hands it back to the puta. I think the chica first hands it to the mesero. I saw it once and it has numbers on it. Can't recall all the details because I'm usually pretty drunk and not paying that much attention but I have seen something like that so not sure what's going on. I definitely saw it the last time I was there in early March before the lockdown.

It's a receipt, they make money out of every ficha. That's how they track their earnings and collect their pay.

[AmorPorFavor]

I have noticed that when I buy a ficha the mesero makes some kind of note or does something to a small piece of paper and hands it back to the puta. I think the chica first hands it to the mesero. I saw it once and it has numbers on it. Can't recall all the details because I'm usually pretty drunk and not paying that much attention but I have seen something like that so not sure what's going on. I definitely saw it the last time I was there in early March before the lockdown.