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  1. #10313

    Sounds like a place that will produce more Virginia Tech and Columbine superstars

    Quote Originally Posted by ProgInOhio  [View Original Post]
    Where I'm from, seeing ladies for $ is illegal so there is always a risk of arrest. For $80, you get a quick visit from a drug addict if you visit her at her place. If you want her to come to you, you spring for a room; maybe $50 at a dive. The risk of robbery and bodily harm is also there from a stray needle or maybe a pimp. Maybe, she just took a hit and will pass out on you, or worse, OD with your dick in her mouth.

    Maybe where you are, HK is lame and over priced. But for a lot of us, it's fucking Nirvana. It's all perspective.
    Thank you for sharing that. I agree with you in that sense. To be where you are from, I can imagine many men turn into candidates to be the next Columbine's most popular incel right before he shows up all over the 6 o'clock news! Ohio sounds so much fun to be at. Said the people who shoot up every single day?

  2. #10312
    Quote Originally Posted by ProgInOhio  [View Original Post]
    Where I'm from, seeing ladies for $ is illegal so there is always a risk of arrest. For $80, you get a quick visit from a drug addict if you visit her at her place. If you want her to come to you, you spring for a room; maybe $50 at a dive. The risk of robbery and bodily harm is also there from a stray needle or maybe a pimp. Maybe, she just took a hit and will pass out on you, or worse, OD with your dick in her mouth.

    To see a lady who looks like HK ladies, you are entering into the mid-tier to upper scale ladies. Those rates start at $200. You might get a good attitude and GFE or you might get someone who rushes you out the door. You might have to pay for a room and some ladies don't visit "notels".

    From the strip club side of things; for $1, I get to see some titties from a distance; they might even be required to have pasties on them.

    $10-$20, I get to buy her an overpriced drink while she tries to get me to go to the "VIP" area for a special LD. If I hesitate, she downs her drink and moves on to the next loser.

    $20-$40, I get a LD where I might be able to touch her ass and maybe graze her tits. The song will be clipped to about 2:30. She'll take 10-15 seconds to get undressed and will be off you as soon as the song ends.
    Most of the posters here are regular visitors to Tijuana and gave up on the USA sex scene long ago.

  3. #10311
    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherMouzone  [View Original Post]
    So not sure if anyone has tips on more reliable data plan service.
    I use cricket with a $5 extra for Mexico-Canada service. Works great all around Tijuana. I get uber at pedwest with no issue.

    During the day I often walk from pedwest to ZN.

    Sometimes take zona shuttle, but tip $1 which is fair. The driver isn't paying for gas or the car.

  4. #10310
    Quote Originally Posted by ProgInOhio  [View Original Post]
    Where I'm from, seeing ladies for $ is illegal so there is always a risk of arrest. For $80, you get a quick visit from a drug addict if you visit her at her place. If you want her to come to you, you spring for a room; maybe $50 at a dive. The risk of robbery and bodily harm is also there from a stray needle or maybe a pimp. Maybe, she just took a hit and will pass out on you, or worse, OD with your dick in her mouth.

    To see a lady who looks like HK ladies, you are entering into the mid-tier to upper scale ladies. Those rates start at $200. You might get a good attitude and GFE or you might get someone who rushes you out the door. You might have to pay for a room and some ladies don't visit "notels".

    From the strip club side of things; for $1, I get to see some titties from a distance; they might even be required to have pasties on them.
    Awesome, report, so true. I will never understand how some can complain about HK. The Pros far out weigh the Cons.

  5. #10309
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman306  [View Original Post]
    Seems the estimate of a 10:1 Ratio at Hong Kong on a recent night might be a bit high? Doesn't Hong Kong almost always have 50-100 girls working? So that would mean 500-1,000 men in the club. I don't think Hong Kong is physically big enough to handle those numbers.

    Yes the club is long and has 3 floors, but the club is not very wide, the 2nd & 3rd floors are partial floors, and their are multiple stages & bars that diminish usable sitting / standing space.

    Maybe 5:1 ratio if the HK girls was on the low side. There is no way I can see over 500 bodies being in Hong Kong at one time, including all customers, dances, maseros & managers.
    Bro I went to HK this past Monday. I swear there couldn't have been more than 20-30 girls in the entire place. It was the least amount of girls I had ever seen there. Granted it was in between Christmas and New Years, but still. There was no shortage of guys of course.

  6. #10308

    A different perspective

    Where I'm from, seeing ladies for $ is illegal so there is always a risk of arrest. For $80, you get a quick visit from a drug addict if you visit her at her place. If you want her to come to you, you spring for a room; maybe $50 at a dive. The risk of robbery and bodily harm is also there from a stray needle or maybe a pimp. Maybe, she just took a hit and will pass out on you, or worse, OD with your dick in her mouth.

    To see a lady who looks like HK ladies, you are entering into the mid-tier to upper scale ladies. Those rates start at $200. You might get a good attitude and GFE or you might get someone who rushes you out the door. You might have to pay for a room and some ladies don't visit "notels".

    From the strip club side of things; for $1, I get to see some titties from a distance; they might even be required to have pasties on them.

    $10-$20, I get to buy her an overpriced drink while she tries to get me to go to the "VIP" area for a special LD. If I hesitate, she downs her drink and moves on to the next loser.

    $20-$40, I get a LD where I might be able to touch her ass and maybe graze her tits. The song will be clipped to about 2:30. She'll take 10-15 seconds to get undressed and will be off you as soon as the song ends.

    $200 and up; I get a more private LD and she might graze the back of her hand against my cock through my pants and the same touching rules as a LD prevails. You also get a goon looking in on you every 30 seconds.

    At a relativity safe environment at HK where the activities are legal, for $1, I get to grope the shit out of of a girl.

    $10- I get to buy her an overpriced drink but we can make out, I can feel her up and she'll do the same to me. Depending on chemistry, that drink can last for 15-30 minutes. I also know that I can take her upstairs and fuck her if I want to.

    $20, I get a LD where everything is available. I might even get a BJ depending on the girl. I also get a full length song.

    $100, I get a private room and I get to suck and fuck a beautiful lady.

    Maybe where you are, HK is lame and over priced. But for a lot of us, it's fucking Nirvana. It's all perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by NegotiateHard  [View Original Post]
    Happy new year bros. Upon reading these last posts, I still am not seeing anything from HK that makes me think it's worth spending much for? 125+ USD (Everything included) for no DFK, CBJ and shitty attitudes? Just about all of or most of Captain Solo's reports don't make me feel like the money spent matches the service. For the type of service given in HK, the most I am willing to give is about 60 dollars (Everything included) and that is with kissing and CBJ. With no kissing, I probably wouldn't spend at all. Can Dramafree11 please write what kind of service he is getting in HK? He loves it so much but is well traveled and has mongered in so many places. I don't understand why HK is so amazing to him? No BBBJ and 100 dollar quotes for on average 20 minutes is a real stinker. People want to believe 80 USD (before room and tips) is a good deal. It's not. Sorry.

  7. #10307

    10:1 Ratio?

    It was a rough estimate. I walked around the club. Every place I went I saw at least 10 guys to 1 girl.

    Most of the girls were taken to the hotel, there were probably 20 girls left. At least 200 guys packed in the club that night, the 10:1 ratio was about right.

  8. #10306
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorTJ  [View Original Post]
    Yes, Uber is better and cheaper. Picks you up right at pedwest, costs 40 pesos ($2). Same app.

    I used to overpay at HK also. But I've learned over the years, which is why we share advice in this forums. I'll admit it: I used to pay $5 to the yellow taxis many years ago.
    Must admit to get to Zona Norte from the border I usually still take taxis ($5 + $1 tip) though sometimes I'll even just walk the 20 minutes (from PedEast. Shorter walk from PedWest) during the day since I know the way.

    Reason I take taxis is for convenience. I usually have issues with my data plan once I cross the border so am often unable to use Uber because of that? Does anyone have advice for obtaining solid / consistent data plan quality once crossing the border? I have Sprint and part of my Sprint plan coverage is a benefit called "Premium International Experience" that gives me unlimited 4 G LTE roaming data (as well as free text and phone calls) in Mexico and Canada for free. But it seems this "service" doesn't work too well once I cross the border (in a few spots it does but maybe 85-90% of the time it doesn't) so I just say f it and go with the taxi rather than trying to figure out Uber in a foreign country. The only time I used Uber in Tijuana was going to a spot a few miles away for dental work. I had to call the dental office who graciously texted Uber to pick me up and drop me off. The dental office mentioned that it's a common issue for their USA Customers to have data plan issues. So not sure if anyone has tips on more reliable data plan service. Even if I have to pay a little extra for something the few days I'm there? Honestly I'm not too savvy with my data plan stuff so don't know if it's something even as simple as adjusting the settings on my phone to get it working LOL.

  9. #10305
    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyChevy  [View Original Post]
    Yo, what's good. I shall be traveling to Mexico / Tijuana for the first time soon and am going to be checking out Hong Kong. I'm a total newb at this so just wanted to know what the room fee is to go upstairs with the chick? Thanks. If you got any other pointers to offer, it'd be much appreciated. (I read the f*cking forum and get the general gist of it.).
    Hi,

    If I do this right, there will be a link to a lengthy report I made last month about my first-ever trip to HK in Tijuana:

    The details are there for you to digest and be ready for:

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...900&viewfull=1#post2400900.

  10. #10304

    I'll try

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorTJ  [View Original Post]
    Yes, Uber is better and cheaper. Picks you up right at pedwest, costs 40 pesos ($2). Same app.

    I used to overpay at HK also. But I've learned over the years, which is why we share advice in this forums. I'll admit it: I used to pay $5 to the yellow taxis many years ago.

    BTW, there are no 10's at HK. Several 8's. Maybe an exceptional 9 on occasion. But a 10 means a perfect sexy tight body (no plastic surgery) and gorgeous face and great service (good BBBJ and DFK at a minimum), and I've gotten 2 out of 3 in HK, but not 3 out of 3. 10's are rare in this world. Most of the HK girls don't hit the gym like they should, they cake on the make-up, and their many tattoos distract our eyes from their attractive bodies. Also, the number of centaurs (giant inflated asses) at HK is way worse now than a few years back.
    I usually rate looks and service separately. So a 10 may be a stretch. But definitely not an 8 (again, just looks). I'm talking about those girls that you see and they get an instant rise out of you. The ones that everyone's eyes go to when they walk into the room. The beers and weed may have raised their point a bit. But they were definitely 9's in my book. Tesla's service was probably a 5 or 6. Sowy's was a 7.5 for me (no BBBJ, but plenty of DFK).

    But seriously appreciate the new info on rides. I went a few times back 5-6 years ago, and the guy that introduced me to Tijuana / HK always took us by taxi. Now I know: grin:

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    To SinfullyKorean.

    It's hard to get discounts for sessions with hot girls on a busy night like NYE with 10:1 Guys: girls ratio. But that night even plain-looking girls insisted on $100 firm and $100 do not guarantee hot, sweet, sexy sessions. I use a little gentle negotiation to gauge new girls' personalities, how sweet, warm, friendly, giving they would be in bed. It does not always work, but the girls who smile and counter with their own offers usually give satisfying sex. Also we need to resist their unreasonable expectations, like $200 sessions, and hold down inflation by getting agreements for reasonable and customary prices and specific services like local guys would do with the girls. Once the new girls get a few rejections, they would adjust their prices and attitudes..
    I'll try to negotiate to $80 from now on. But I remember girls asking for 100 even 5-6 years ago. So being quoted 100 on NYE was not a surprise to me. I haven't been to Tijuana enough find regulars. But I think I'm going to be addicted to Tijuana after that last trip.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    I vent because, I'm experiencing a lot problems in HK, in the limo, in the hotel, because I tip at standard USA rate, which is double what even wealthy Tijuana locals tip. But my tips aren't enough. So I get hassled. The limo, was supposed to be free with the $50 VIP card, but it's not free if the drivers don't want me in their limo anymore and make fun of me for tipping a dollar. Most uber drivers, in the states don't get a tip in most rides. Those are 20,30 dollar rides often. Hk limo is driving 1.5 miles to el chaparral. And should be getting paid by HK, or have a sign that they only get money from tips. The hotel staff, follows me into my room looking for a tip all the time, 2 at a time, because I guess other guys tip everyone they look at. Problem is, these same people don't tip like this in USA. I worked for tips. The wealthier the person the worse the tips. And the girls, suddenly asking for 100, and men fighting each other to grab them first, well those girls will all demand 140 next year as soon as they are told they are allowed to. Guys who show up once a year and pay a lot more than what's considered normal, in Tijuana or USA, and are happy to do so, make the experience worse for the locals. Last 2 nights I went to revolution hotel, I went back to San Diego without going to any of these clubs because the problems chip away at the enjoyment of them.
    I get it. I feel the same frustration in Thailand. It's happening in LA / OC, too. What used to be 260 suddenly jumped up to 300 in many places. I wouldn't mind a mild $20 jump over the course of 5-10 years. I just avoid those places and stick with my 240/260 places, unless there's a unicorn for 280/300.

    As I mentioned before, I went to Tijuana 5-6 years ago with a few friends and the price was 80/100 back then, too. I don't know how realistic it is to keep the prices the same for 10-20 years. But I will try my best to negotiate down to $80 as much as I possibly can. Tips like CaptSolo is what I really appreciate (e. G. Keeping options open). NYE night, I didn't feel like I had many options, as there were so many guys and not many attractive girls. So I had absolutely no qualms about paying 100 that night. But I'll be trying to go more regularly. And hopefully, as my portfolio grows, I'll be able to stick with the $80 and keep inflation down.

  11. #10303

    10:1 Ratio?

    Seems the estimate of a 10:1 Ratio at Hong Kong on a recent night might be a bit high? Doesn't Hong Kong almost always have 50-100 girls working? So that would mean 500-1,000 men in the club. I don't think Hong Kong is physically big enough to handle those numbers.

    Yes the club is long and has 3 floors, but the club is not very wide, the 2nd & 3rd floors are partial floors, and their are multiple stages & bars that diminish usable sitting / standing space.

    Maybe 5:1 ratio if the HK girls was on the low side. There is no way I can see over 500 bodies being in Hong Kong at one time, including all customers, dances, maseros & managers.

  12. #10302
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorTJ  [View Original Post]
    Yes, Uber is better and cheaper. Picks you up right at pedwest, costs 40 pesos ($2). Same app.

    I used to overpay at HK also. But I've learned over the years, which is why we share advice in this forums. I'll admit it: I used to pay $5 to the yellow taxis many years ago.

    BTW, there are no 10's at HK. Several 8's. Maybe an exceptional 9 on occasion. But a 10 means a perfect sexy tight body (no plastic surgery) and gorgeous face and great service (good BBBJ and DFK at a minimum), and I've gotten 2 out of 3 in HK, but not 3 out of 3. 10's are rare in this world. Most of the HK girls don't hit the gym like they should, they cake on the make-up, and their many tattoos distract our eyes from their attractive bodies. Also, the number of centaurs (giant inflated asses) at HK is way worse now than a few years back.
    Agree about there are no 10's at Hk, I have this discussion on the Kiev thread. Guys are claiming they are banging 8's /9's on a regular basis, simply not possible. There are plenty of 7's /8's at Hk.

    Slightly disagree on the gym, many so go. Probably not the ones with fat asses.

  13. #10301

    Holding down inflation

    To SinfullyKorean.

    It's hard to get discounts for sessions with hot girls on a busy night like NYE with 10:1 Guys: girls ratio. But that night even plain-looking girls insisted on $100 firm and $100 do not guarantee hot, sweet, sexy sessions. I use a little gentle negotiation to gauge new girls' personalities, how sweet, warm, friendly, giving they would be in bed. It does not always work, but the girls who smile and counter with their own offers usually give satisfying sex. Also we need to resist their unreasonable expectations, like $200 sessions, and hold down inflation by getting agreements for reasonable and customary prices and specific services like local guys would do with the girls. Once the new girls get a few rejections, they would adjust their prices and attitudes.

    Gabriela looked nice, clean hot in the club, but was typical shrewd and hard Monterrey businesswoman. She managed to hide all her tats and was nice, warm, sweet in the club, but was very serious about money and getting paid once we got into the room. She was clean shaven and put up with a very long session with lots of sighing and moaning. Looked like she had a better time than I did. At the end, she was very relaxed, gave me pictures and her tel, wanted me to refer her to all my horny my friends hehe.

    Girls whom I know a while give me much steeper discounts and much better services, including DFK, DATY, BBBJ, BBFS ect with lots of love and lust expressions. Some of those girls are the hottest with lots of fun in the club and the sweetest and sexiest in bed. On NYE my new wingman got an hour of DATY, BBBJ, BBFS with a hot HK girl for $120. He's new in Tijuana and was only starting to negotiate terms with HK girls, getting good deals.

    The girls watch guys for looks, manners and interactions in the club like hawks. If you have to have specific girls, they would know how badly you want them and want high prices. But if you have a few alternatives and willing to walk away from high prices and bad attitudes, they will know you are not a pushover and will give you better sessions.

  14. #10300
    Quote Originally Posted by SinfullyKorean  [View Original Post]
    As for the free limo, I tipped that much because I rode solo and that's how much the taxi usually costs me. If there's a better way to ride, why not just be constructive about it instead of "Hey, look at this idiot. He paid twice what we pay and he's still happy. " Is Uber the better option? Does the same US Uber app work across the border?

    But I prefer to shop where I know I'll be able to find those 8's-10's.
    Yes, Uber is better and cheaper. Picks you up right at pedwest, costs 40 pesos ($2). Same app.

    I used to overpay at HK also. But I've learned over the years, which is why we share advice in this forums. I'll admit it: I used to pay $5 to the yellow taxis many years ago.

    BTW, there are no 10's at HK. Several 8's. Maybe an exceptional 9 on occasion. But a 10 means a perfect sexy tight body (no plastic surgery) and gorgeous face and great service (good BBBJ and DFK at a minimum), and I've gotten 2 out of 3 in HK, but not 3 out of 3. 10's are rare in this world. Most of the HK girls don't hit the gym like they should, they cake on the make-up, and their many tattoos distract our eyes from their attractive bodies. Also, the number of centaurs (giant inflated asses) at HK is way worse now than a few years back.

  15. #10299
    Quote Originally Posted by SinfullyKorean  [View Original Post]
    Chill man. Most of the massage girls are not the same quality that I chose from HK last night. They were easily a 9's maybe 10. If those girls offered FS in a massage shop in OC / LA, I'd be there all the time. Even AMP's basic charge is usually at least 140-150 (40-50 for shop, 100 for tip). So your NYC price doesn't apply here in SoCal. There's also cheap Chinese AAMP shops you can visit for about 120-140, but those are a crap shoot, too, since you don't know what you get until you open the door. And most of those are duds.

    As for the free limo, I tipped that much because I rode solo and that's how much the taxi usually costs me. If there's a better way to ride, why not just be constructive about it instead of "Hey, look at this idiot. He paid twice what we pay and he's still happy. " Is Uber the better option? Does the same US Uber app work across the border?

    As for quality, I've rarely seen street girls as attractive as these. That's why I don't even look at the street girls. If you want to get your kicks on in the dumps, then by all means. But I prefer to shop where I know I'll be able to find those 8's-10's. That's why I also walked out of Adelitas and Chicago almost as soon as I walked in, because of lack of pretty girls. I'd prefer not to pay the extra $20. But these girls are taken before they've even had a chance to sit most of the time.
    I vent because, I'm experiencing a lot problems in HK, in the limo, in the hotel, because I tip at standard USA rate, which is double what even wealthy Tijuana locals tip. But my tips aren't enough. So I get hassled. The limo, was supposed to be free with the $50 VIP card, but it's not free if the drivers don't want me in their limo anymore and make fun of me for tipping a dollar. Most uber drivers, in the states don't get a tip in most rides. Those are 20,30 dollar rides often. Hk limo is driving 1.5 miles to el chaparral. And should be getting paid by HK, or have a sign that they only get money from tips. The hotel staff, follows me into my room looking for a tip all the time, 2 at a time, because I guess other guys tip everyone they look at. Problem is, these same people don't tip like this in USA. I worked for tips. The wealthier the person the worse the tips. And the girls, suddenly asking for 100, and men fighting each other to grab them first, well those girls will all demand 140 next year as soon as they are told they are allowed to. Guys who show up once a year and pay a lot more than what's considered normal, in Tijuana or USA, and are happy to do so, make the experience worse for the locals. Last 2 nights I went to revolution hotel, I went back to San Diego without going to any of these clubs because the problems chip away at the enjoyment of them.

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