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  1. #9969

    Dollar Tips for HK chicas

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogers69  [View Original Post]
    I don't think woman sweat losing any man's money. I'm in Cascadas, seeing these woman go up the elevators constantly. Even the ones I wouldn't of dated for free three years ago. One thing, is guys need to stop giving dollars to girls walking around asking for it. Why should see have sex for 70 if she can make 35 hour walking around asking for "one dollar". And, if you are going to give a dollar, make her work for it for a full minute. I went to Baltimore strip club, these woman need more money to live than Hong kongs girls. They need four times the money. But they didn't ask for money. They walk up to me and dance for three to six minutes, let me smack their ass, and I give a dollar or two. Then they walk away and the next one comes. But these guys in Hong Kong, just want to give money away for free. And venture out to the other clubs. All the ones next to Hong Kong, have chicks to bang. Adwlitas, Chavelas, there's another one next to those with big stage, I walked in, must been ten attractive 25 year old woman working and two dollar beers. Pay with pesos for beer for cheap price.
    Stop giving dollar tips to HK chicas walking around? I would much rather give out a few singles as opposed to the $100 for arribas. I probably tip $20 in singles, but to 20 different women while doing my laps at HK. For those $20 singles, I get plenty of rubbing, hugging, kissing (OK, not DFK) from these different ladies. I get your point of not giving up $1 just because they ask, not getting anything in return, but I find there is far better value in tipping singles for a quick 10 second thrill than going arriba for 30 minutes at a ridiculous cost. I agree with you that there are plenty of chicks to bang at a better rate outside of HK. But, HK is HK. Got to give a little cheese there too! Hahaha.

  2. #9968
    Quote Originally Posted by Tididyekim  [View Original Post]
    Man,

    Not going to sugar coat it, this sounds like straight bitterness. I agree that you should walk away from a girl that won't budge from $100, there's just no reason to be bitter about it. These girls are basically sales people trying to make as much money as they can. If negotiations don't work between the two of you, just move onto the next one. Simple.
    You are incorrect in your assessment. I don't go to the zona to monger. Therefore, I do not negotiate with the chicas. Thus, there is not bitterness whatsoever.

    Yes these girls are basically salespeople that are trying to make as much money as they can. They have every right to. But there are limits. Pretty much every business is trying to make as much money as they can. But they adhere to realistic parameters. What would happen if McDonalds jacked up the price of a Big Mac to $100? You would go down the street to Burger King and buy a Whopper for $4. If McDonalds priced the Big Mac at $100, there would be public outrage because the price would be outside of what is considered reasonable and they would soon be seeking Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in federal court.

    These putas in third world Tijuana starting to charge $120 for half hour is pushing the bounds of what is reasonable. Consider that a USA Escort in an average big city such as Dallas, Denver or Phoenix charges about $200 for a full hour of outcall service. A Tijuana puta is basically asking for the same amount, which is ridiculous. A USA Escort works under considerable legal risk, which can result in fines, arrest and imprisonment, legal fees, criminal records, etc. A Tijuana puta is not threatened by any of these substantial legal penalties. And providing service in an on-site fully staffed hotel is considerably safer than traveling to provide service in an unknown hotel or personal residence. Not to mention the tremendous disparity in economic conditions between the two countries. If prostitution were decriminalized in the USA, prices would surely plummet to maybe even half of what they are now. Thus in my opinion $100-$120 for a half hour HK puta is not reasonable.

    If a USA Escort has the alternative of working as a waitress or receptionist somewhere for $15/ HR, then a $200 1-hour session is equal to 13.3 hours of normal work. In Tijuana, the average cashier job pays about $250 mn daily, which translates to roughly $1.65/ HR. $1.65 x 13.3 = $22. So $22 would be the value of a full hour of HK service. A half hour would be valued at $11. And that's not even deducting any amount for not having to deal with legal issues like American putas do. All this being said, putas at HK should be fucking and sucking for less than $10 for half hour. But somehow, somewhere down the line, American mongers came down and threw the pricing structure all out of whack and it hasn't corrected itself since. Matter of fact, it's been getting worse. Tijuana hookers actually make more than their American counterparts. Name one other profession where one would earn more in Mexico than the USA For the same work.

  3. #9967
    Quote Originally Posted by KCQuestor  [View Original Post]
    Too many guys are coming from cities where fat, old hookers charge $250-300 (and a hotel room is $150). They get to Tijuana and a young hottie will fuck you for "only" $100 and a $20 room, so they jump at it. If they are just visiting for the night and it is their one shot, you can't really blame them.
    This is such a non issue. You guys do not need to pay $125. There ISO many girls at HK that have zero sessions. There is maybe 5% that could get $125. Again you guys are spoiled.

  4. #9966
    Quote Originally Posted by KCQuestor  [View Original Post]
    Too many guys are coming from cities where fat, old hookers charge $250-300 (and a hotel room is $150). They get to Tijuana and a young hottie will fuck you for "only" $100 and a $20 room, so they jump at it. If they are just visiting for the night and it is their one shot, you can't really blame them.
    We can all talk about this until we're blue in the face. But it's simple economics. Supply and demand. KC, you are right about those that fly in and make it an event. I have been one of those. That said, I have still never paid $100. But if there are guys that do, then that will become the standard.

    HK has a market on the hottest chicas available. But as many others have said, there are 100's of other and in some ways better options within a city block or a message to an agency. So supply is on our side. What does skew the price a bit is HK has the most dense population of pure beauty.

    Bottom line, if you are price sensitive, you are not lacking for options. In that way, mongers do own the market because they control the demand.

  5. #9965
    Too many guys are coming from cities where fat, old hookers charge $250-300 (and a hotel room is $150). They get to Tijuana and a young hottie will fuck you for "only" $100 and a $20 room, so they jump at it. If they are just visiting for the night and it is their one shot, you can't really blame them.

  6. #9964
    I don't think woman sweat losing any man's money. I'm in Cascadas, seeing these woman go up the elevators constantly. Even the ones I wouldn't of dated for free three years ago. One thing, is guys need to stop giving dollars to girls walking around asking for it. Why should see have sex for 70 if she can make 35 hour walking around asking for "one dollar". And, if you are going to give a dollar, make her work for it for a full minute. I went to Baltimore strip club, these woman need more money to live than Hong kongs girls. They need four times the money. But they didn't ask for money. They walk up to me and dance for three to six minutes, let me smack their ass, and I give a dollar or two. Then they walk away and the next one comes. But these guys in Hong Kong, just want to give money away for free. And venture out to the other clubs. All the ones next to Hong Kong, have chicks to bang. Adwlitas, Chavelas, there's another one next to those with big stage, I walked in, must been ten attractive 25 year old woman working and two dollar beers. Pay with pesos for beer for cheap price.

  7. #9963
    Quote Originally Posted by ClamSlammer  [View Original Post]
    So next time a puta refuses to budge from $100, let her walk. Let her starve, get evicted, her kids starve, not have school supplies, her parents eat nothing but frijoles and tortillas. Let the puta go work as a cashier for $14/ day. If mongers had any sense the standard price would be $50 or less, which would be equal to making the same amount of money working 3-4 days in a factory.
    Man,

    Not going to sugar coat it, this sounds like straight bitterness. I agree that you should walk away from a girl that won't budge from $100, there's just no reason to be bitter about it. These girls are basically sales people trying to make as much money as they can. If negotiations don't work between the two of you, just move onto the next one. Simple.

  8. #9962

    Spot on

    Quote Originally Posted by ClamSlammer  [View Original Post]
    There's been some discussion about rising prices and what not. So here's my take:

    When it comes to negotiation between monger and puta, 100% of the leverage belongs to the monger. But most mongers do not realize this fact. The puta lacks even the slightest iota of leverage. Why? There's 2 reasons.

    1. The monger's kids are going to eat regardless of whether a deal is made with the puta. Can the same be said about the puta's kids?

    2. In the event that negotiations between the monger and puta break down, the monger literally has 500+ immediate other options within a city block that will happily accept a reasonable offer. The puta will almost never have another monger waiting to make an offer that's acceptable to her. Instead of making a reasonable amount of let's say $80, she's spend the next half hour standing there making nothing or at most $3. 50 for a couple of fichas.

    So next time a puta refuses to budge from $100, let her walk. Let her starve, get evicted, her kids starve, not have school supplies, her parents eat nothing but frijoles and tortillas. Let the puta go work as a cashier for $14/ day. If mongers had any sense the standard price would be $50 or less, which would be equal to making the same amount of money working 3-4 days in a factory.
    You're 100% correct but as you know, there are too many mongers out there that are either weak or make poor decision after poor decision. Thus, your logic while sound only works on paper but not in reality which is unfortunate for all of us.

  9. #9961

    Monger vs. Puta

    There's been some discussion about rising prices and what not. So here's my take:

    When it comes to negotiation between monger and puta, 100% of the leverage belongs to the monger. But most mongers do not realize this fact. The puta lacks even the slightest iota of leverage. Why? There's 2 reasons.

    1. The monger's kids are going to eat regardless of whether a deal is made with the puta. Can the same be said about the puta's kids?

    2. In the event that negotiations between the monger and puta break down, the monger literally has 500+ immediate other options within a city block that will happily accept a reasonable offer. The puta will almost never have another monger waiting to make an offer that's acceptable to her. Instead of making a reasonable amount of let's say $80, she's spend the next half hour standing there making nothing or at most $3. 50 for a couple of fichas.

    So next time a puta refuses to budge from $100, let her walk. Let her starve, get evicted, her kids starve, not have school supplies, her parents eat nothing but frijoles and tortillas. Let the puta go work as a cashier for $14/ day. If mongers had any sense the standard price would be $50 or less, which would be equal to making the same amount of money working 3-4 days in a factory.

  10. #9960
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    I have never had a girl ask for $120.
    Me either, but I've seen reports of it over the past month. Shocked the hell out of me, but multiple reports from different mongers on different boards. No way am I paying that for 30 minutes.

  11. #9959

    Quote way higher for non-Spanish speaking guys. . .

    If you are an American who speaks Spanish, you can get the Mexican price quote. Rule #1 - when in Rome, do as the Romans do. In Mexico, do as the Mexican men do. Speak Spanish, wear clothing like upper class Mexican men and try to fit in. If you want to know what to wear in Tijuana, look at photos of Presidente Amlo and other Mexican politicians. Long sleeved shirts rolled up, pants and clean shoes or boots with a good haircut and shave. Forget tattoos of Darth Vader, spiderman or other Comicon icons, Mohawk haircuts, shorts and flip flops because that is not what local upper class Mexicans wear. If you want to get the same treatment Amlo would get, then look and talk like Amlo to the Chicas. Look like the Most Interesting Man in the World. . . Stay thirsty my friends!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chinaman360  [View Original Post]
    Good man. The problem with the prices is that the girls quote way higher for American guys. That's just plain predatory to jack up the price if your not Mexican. You just have to complain about the price or else the chicas will keep on upping the price. Quoting 120 is crazy now. In a few months there was a 20% average increase in prices being initially quoted. That's crazy.

  12. #9958
    Hey guys,

    So I'm trying to plan a trip with a large group of friends (9 to 11 people) to come to Tijuana / Rosito for a weekend and I was wondering if you guys had any tips for us to really get the most out of it.

    The idea so far is to stay in Rosarito, but we plan on at least spending one day / night in Tijuana to eat and fuck. Hong Kong will be on the itinerary for Friday or Saturday and we'll most likely be getting bottle service since we'll all want to sit together. Do you guys have any tips or suggestions to offer for a party our size? I've been to H. K. A few times already, but never with this many people. That and I'm wondering if there are anything else worth exploring such as renting a few escorts etc. Through the weekend. Any suggestions would be great.

    I do have few questions of my own that maybe some of you could answer.

    1. What's the best time to arrive to H. K. On a Friday or Saturday? I'm wondering when the night shift girls start working so our group can be there around the same time. Some of the people in my group have never been to H. K. So I want them to get the best experience while we are there.

    2. From my understanding, H. K. Has "secure" parking, but is it even worth using? I have no issues driving to Rosarito, but I'm a little apprehensive about leaving our cars at the club since they might be broken into or the valet attendants might scratch the cars.

    3. If we were to stay one night at Hotel Cascadas, is it safe to leave our valuables in our hotel room? I may have to work remote for a period of time so I might need to bring a laptop with me.

    Thanks in advance for any of the advice you guys have to offer. I've always had a great time in Tijuana so I'm really excited to bring the new generation into the fold. I'll be sure to teach them how to navigate through the meseros and the high prices of some of these chica's might be asking from my group before the visit. Haha.

  13. #9957

    Get your free drink at HK, then go somewhere else to fuck

    Personally my max at HK is $70 (I do not tip) since there is no such thing as a HK chica I must have and I may regret losing. Adelitas, Chicago, Tropicals, Chavelas, street and at least 4 agencies have hundreds of chicas I want to have sex with and will take $60-70 or less. Nowadays I do not hesitate to tell a HK girl I only have fun at HK, when I want to get serious and fuck, I go to Adelitas and elsewhere.

    The only relevant reason for me is the supply of chicas I want to have sex with in the Zona Norte is almost unlimited, and is not limited to HK. Gentlemen, there is a world out there beyond HK.

  14. #9956
    I just like it there in the afternoon about 3 to 7 pm. You can see everything a little better. It's not so crazy and while I don't have statistics to back it up, it think it's safer during the day. Yet the club is still getting a little busier with out getting packed.

    Quote Originally Posted by NoShadow  [View Original Post]
    First time visitor next week. What is the best time of day to visit have 4-5 hours to play around with next wed or Tuesday depending on how things go while in San Diego.

  15. #9955

    Best time

    Quote Originally Posted by NoShadow  [View Original Post]
    First time visitor next week. What is the best time of day to visit have 4-5 hours to play around with next wed or Tuesday depending on how things go while in San Diego.
    Depends what you mean by best time. On Tues and Wed, it's pretty quiet around 12 pm to 3 pm. I prefer that because there's more places to sit and there's less competition with other dudes.

    If you're looking for a party, then go 5 pm or later.

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