Hong Kong Club Reports

[Jackie888]

The moderator should start a "Hall of Shame" where we can list the price, name, and physical descriptions of the worst chicas. That way we can jointly work to avoid the Tijuana rip-off chica cartel.

[ScatManDoo]

I can never get 30 minutes at HK. All the time the girl cuts it off at the 15-20 minute mark. It's fucking ridiculous. They start telling me my time is up after 15 minutes of sex when we negotiated for a half hour in the bar? What the fuck is this? I just met with a girl who looked very good, a 10 in looks. She wanted $100 and I decided to go for it since she really looks stellar. I even bought her a drink and chatted with her for 10-15 minutes at a table prior to taking upstairs.

But she shorted me time. And the sex was not that good. She kept whining and commanding me to do things. She wouldn't let me enjoy myself and get in the moment. I'm paying this chick $100 what the hell? And again she wanted the money up front before anything happens.

You mention no less than three times in your post that you paid a Bar Girl $100.

I too think you would be better off seeing street girls and saving your money.

However, if you need the full 30 minutes for your sessions, Street Girls may not be the answer. Most Street Girls, and the hotels they use, time the short-term rooms at 15 or 20 minutes.

Over a decade ago, when I was reading from other posters complaining about getting cheated on time, I began bringing a kitchen timer in the room, and starting the timer in front of the chica. This worked great for me. The chicas seemed to be OK with it, some even indicated that they thought I was smart to do it.

However on the chat boards I was highly ridiculed for it.

Eventually I learned how and where best to rent overnight rooms in Tijuana. I also learned successful negotiating skills. Like making low-ball offers instead of acting like a rookie and asking the girl "How Much?

I still use the kitchen timer, but only rarely now. I will whip-out the timer at the start of the session only when the cita's time-length was brought up & agreed to during the sidewalk negotiation. For the few times that I still use a timer, it works great. There's a constant meeting of minds as to when the session will end, which pleases us both when cita time was a concern.

If I fail to come in 15 or 20 minutes of BBBJ from a walker, there no sense of failure or displeasure. If her technique was adequate, I offer "doublay" where we both often effortlessly agree to double the time, double the pay and reach a satisfactory conclusion.

[Member #4722]

How much time do you guys get with Hong Kong girls? I paid $80 for a good looking chick but only fucked her and nutted after 20 minutes. She wasn't stellar performance-wise for me to want to fuck her round 2 and plus I was tired after I nutted so she left after 20 minutes. I feel like I'm getting ripped off. I paid $80 for 20 minutes. Anyway to find girls that will stay longer and make sure you get a full experience or do you have to test out the girls and throw away the ones that don't feel bad ripping you off out of your time?

Also, why does every girl ask for money before you start? Is this the norm?? Should I just say no? I try to tell the girls I'll pay them after sex but they don't listen.

Girls asking for money up front seems to be the new standard in Tijuana. Many guys would disagree but personally I don't see any difference in service whether paying up front or after. When I am repeating or with a girl I already vibed with in the bar, I will normally offer the cash up front. I know one thing is for sure if they want the money and the monger makes a big deal about paying after then that is probably going to ruin the session. Probably better to bail on session than proceed if paying up front is a dealbreaker and she insists.

[TerOnlyOnce]

I can never get 30 minutes at HK. All the time the girl cuts it off at the 15-20 minute mark. It's fucking ridiculous. They start telling me my time is up after 15 minutes of sex when we negotiated for a half hour in the bar? What the fuck is this? I just met with a girl who looked very good, a 10 in looks. She wanted $100 and I decided to go for it since she really looks stellar. I even bought her a drink and chatted with her for 10-15 minutes at a table prior to taking upstairs.

But she shorted me time. And the sex was not that good. She kept whining and commanding me to do things. She wouldn't let me enjoy myself and get in the moment. I'm paying this chick $100 what the hell? And again she wanted the money up front before anything happens.

How do you guys deal with this? Should I just not see the better looking girls? It's frustrating because you can't tell which girl will clock watch and end it at 15 minutes and which won't. The first girl I banged at HK I fucked her twice and we didn't negotiate that beforehand. There are definitely girls out there that want to provide a good service. But then there are girls that fucking cut it at 15 minutes.

Seriously guys I need help. I couldn't nut with the girl I paid $100 to. When a girl is whining at me during sex it already puts me in a bad mood. I think I'm better off seeing street girls and saving my money.

[KC Questor]

How much time do you guys get with Hong Kong girls? I paid $80 for a good looking chick but only fucked her and nutted after 20 minutes. She wasn't stellar performance-wise for me to want to fuck her round 2 and plus I was tired after I nutted so she left after 20 minutes. I feel like I'm getting ripped off. I paid $80 for 20 minutes. Anyway to find girls that will stay longer and make sure you get a full experience or do you have to test out the girls and throw away the ones that don't feel bad ripping you off out of your time?

Also, why does every girl ask for money before you start? Is this the norm?? Should I just say no? I try to tell the girls I'll pay them after sex but they don't listen.

Standard time is 30 minutes, but once you nut you are done. If you are a VIP or have your own room you can stay longer, but the girl will usually start to get annoyed after 30-40 minutes and will leave after you nut. MSOG isn't a thing unless you negotiate it. That's kind of standard -- unless you negotiate it, don't expect it. Be explicit with what you want. If you want a full hour with multiple pops, tell her. She'll charge you more.

An escort will be about the same price as a bar girl, but will come for an hour and often will include multiple pops. But most won't come to the Zona so you'll need your own hotel room.

[Piszarro]

How much time do you guys get with Hong Kong girls? I paid $80 for a good looking chick but only fucked her and nutted after 20 minutes. She wasn't stellar performance-wise for me to want to fuck her round 2 and plus I was tired after I nutted so she left after 20 minutes. I feel like I'm getting ripped off. I paid $80 for 20 minutes. Anyway to find girls that will stay longer and make sure you get a full experience or do you have to test out the girls and throw away the ones that don't feel bad ripping you off out of your time?

Also, why does every girl ask for money before you start? Is this the norm?? Should I just say no? I try to tell the girls I'll pay them after sex but they don't listen.

My experience is the same as yours but that's usually because if you haven't finished in 20 minutes someone from the hotel will come knocking at your door and tell you that the time is up. If you nut before 20 minutes, consider the transaction complete. They don't stay and cuddle which sucks for me because I'm a cuddler.

I believe you can pay for more time beforehand but the girl will want extra money too.

Hong Kong girls have tried to charge $100 on a regular basis but if they don't come down in price I decline the service.

[TerOnlyOnce]

How much time do you guys get with Hong Kong girls? I paid $80 for a good looking chick but only fucked her and nutted after 20 minutes. She wasn't stellar performance-wise for me to want to fuck her round 2 and plus I was tired after I nutted so she left after 20 minutes. I feel like I'm getting ripped off. I paid $80 for 20 minutes. Anyway to find girls that will stay longer and make sure you get a full experience or do you have to test out the girls and throw away the ones that don't feel bad ripping you off out of your time?

Also, why does every girl ask for money before you start? Is this the norm?? Should I just say no? I try to tell the girls I'll pay them after sex but they don't listen.

[Yehdawg]

Going to go check out the clubs on Sunday night. Any mongers going to be there? Could use some wingmen and beer pals.

[Long Don Silva]

Until you end up giving a girl 1600 pesos ($88) rather than $80 she initially asked for. Or else you decide to haggle and offer 1500 (that's less than 1600, right?) and it's still $81.

This seems to be the most overlooked aspect of the ZN economy. The BG's round to the nearest 10 dollars or 100 pesos. So unless the dollar becomes valued at more than 20 pesos, it's generally better to pay BG's in dollars. It's usually better to pay SG's in pesos, but some of them have been catching on to the true exchange rate the past year or two.

[ScatManDoo]

The question is whether or not that "slightly" better price is worth the hassle of exchanging, carrying two sets of currency, exchanging back (or spending it just to get rid of it), not to mention the possibility of fucking up and overpaying because you aren't comfortable with the conversion rate.

Those may not be issues for you, or for an experienced guy, or someone who travels there frequently, but for some they are.

I just assume that anyone who is asking which currency they should use is capable of understanding exchange rates.

[KC Questor]

If I have an overnight room, is it possible to take a chica to Cascadas / Rizo without her ID?

Depends on the front desk clerk. If she's a street girl and they know her, it's usually not a problem. If the clerk is lazy (or thinks she works in the club) he may just ask her name. But he may ask to see an ID and a health card. I don't know if a tip will get you past that check.

Most escorts won't go to Cascadas or Rizo, and if she's a civilian she may not want to go to a hooker hotel either. I've taken girls from other clubs to my room in Cascadas after their shift and had no issues.

[KC Questor]

Nine times out of ten, you get a slightly better price using pesos. And I've never seen even a hint of an attitude if I pay in pesos.

The question is whether or not that "slightly" better price is worth the hassle of exchanging, carrying two sets of currency, exchanging back (or spending it just to get rid of it), not to mention the possibility of fucking up and overpaying because you aren't comfortable with the conversion rate.

Those may not be issues for you, or for an experienced guy, or someone who travels there frequently, but for some they are. Dividing by 18.5 is not the simplest thing in the world and unless you want to pull out your phone to calculate every exchange it's easy to just think of it as about 20 to 1. Until you end up giving a girl 1600 pesos ($88) rather than $80 she initially asked for. Or else you decide to haggle and offer 1500 (that's less than 1600, right?) and it's still $81.

[Thunder52]

No carbs? I thought you need carbs for energy. Protein is to build muscle mass. You do need energy when banging the senoritas. Also you need liquid as you lose that through perspiration.

The object is to metabolize your food as quickly as possible and not have it slow you down. Can't if you dilute it with liquid. Combining protein and carbs demands different sets of enzymes for each, again slowing digestion. Complex carbs (brown bread, whole grains) are great for sustained energy, but I like pure protein, a steak or lean meat. My favorite is dessicated liver, vitamin b complex, see with Rose Hips, and calcium citrate to keep from cramping.

[Seins345]

What do you mean by this? I always bring about 40 usd worth of pesos for beer and food. Beer only cost me 80 pesos including a tip to the bartender compared to 5 usd with a tip, saving me about a dollar each beer. Of course, I tip and pay the ladies in usd.

It's just that they mean mug me when they say the price in USD and I pay in pesos, not that I care too much since I literally forget the moment I enter and start seeing girls.

80 sounds like what I usually pay for a beer as well.

[Mr Fahrenheit]

I am not from Hispanic background and I speak basic Spanish. For me when I try to by in pesos, I don't feel discrimination, but maybe more of an annoyance since I don't know the numbers that well and the person that speaks Spanish doesn't know how to say it in English.

I know what the important numbers for negation for girls when taking them up, but after that when I am trying to buy tacos or at a store and the say the price in Spanish and I have this look that I am trying to translate it in my head that are thinking, " why didn't this guy just bring 3 dollars."

I think dollars are also better as well. I always bring pesos since I'm Mexican and cover guy usually gives me "that look" as well as some meseros here and there. Girls are fine and do not care, probably because the $20 bill peso is $2 pesos worth more than 1 $US. I also do not care about those $2 pesos because whatever. But yeah there's definitely some degree of discrimination from the people there if you bring pesos in my experience.