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  1. #8679

    Thanks

    Thanks for all the great intel.

    Quote Originally Posted by RickyVee  [View Original Post]
    Seems like there are many different conversations and confusion about the inner workings of Hong Kong. First and most importantly HK is a Clip Joint Fridays and Saturday's. Those who have been around Tijuana and culture and I do mean Tijuana culture because it is a different and separate animal from Mexican culture already understand this about HK on the weekends. Tijuana is bastardization of American and Mexican culture do the influence and proximity to the United States. That being said there is a reliance and a natural tendency to take advantage of Gringos because Mexico is a class based system so those who have money power or influence in the country readily take advantage of the people and citizenry, the Mexican Government is a prime example of that. So being that you are a foreigner in a strange land they will try to exploit that to their advantage because that is what is being done to them on a daily basis. The majority of people who work in the Mexican service industry are seen as the low rung of society and are exploited by the Mexican elite, including the girls who work in the clubs and stand on the corners in the Zona. All the girls have is their looks to get by on so they use what they got to get what they want. Sure they may be sweet and cute but they truly do not like or respect you when you break it all down and I'm sure most of the mongers feel the same way about them. So yes the waiters, the cab drivers, the bathroom attendant will pray upon your ass at every turn just because you are American and seen as an easy mark. When dealing in the Zona show no fear if somebody is being aggressive girl waiter, cop, or whoever stand your ground and don't be a pushover. Showing weakness in this culture is a death sentence. I guarantee the more masculine you act the better your experience will be with girls and the staff. HK may have a lot going for itself because it has next to zero competition as far as it overall offerings are concerned, but it is lacking in customer service. Being shady and not pouring what you ordered is a big no no in terms of customer service. One way to combat this is by tasting what you ordered and politely but firmly tell them you want what you ordered or will not pay. Ask for the bottle to be brought to the table and poured in front of you, if he refuses get another waiter who will comply. If your goal is to drink top self all night like a boss then tipping a waiter $20.00 upfront to be your personal attendant will show them you are not messing around and are to be taken serious when it comes to your beverages / women. I guarantee they will not F-with you from that point on. The idea is to act arrogant but not rude if you do this I guarantee nobody will try to jerk you around.

    As far as daytime goes yes there is a different shift of girls who work the streets and clubs. Personally I prefer daytime hours and off peak days. If night time is your only option Thursday night is probably your best bet in terms of quality and a more relaxed environment. There is never a shortage of girls in the zona. Yes the selection will not be as great as peak days but I guarantee you will find one who will tickle your fancy. The advantage of daytime is you avoiding the headaches of being taken advantage of by overzealous waiters, girls, and staff. Another advantage of daytime is the girls are a lot more relaxed and more rapport can be built. This is key because all women even working girls respond to the same shit. If you establish some basic rapport with them you will have a better experience. Compliment them on their eyes or hair, jewelry, tattoos even though you could really give a shit less trust me Mexican girls love that shit they eat it up and will reward you for the compliments for it upstairs. Never stay overnight in Cascadas or any other hotels in the Zona. Too much noise to get meaningful sleep and not very secure. If you must stay in a hotel in the zona to kill time between sessions and need to freshen up I recommend Hotel Diaz it has clean rooms and showers and a promo for 4 hours for like $250.00 Pesos it's just south of the arches in the zona. One advantage is you can sometimes get street girls who are willing to walk over with you for sessions there. IF you want a nicer hotel Caesars hotel is your best bet in terms of price, quality and location. It is chica friendly so if you need to order out for service you will not have any issues. AIRBNB is a great alternative as well in Tijuana. Never carry any more the $100.00 cash on you at one time. I urge you to pay in pesos if possible. Should be enough for at least one session for a top tiered club girl or 4 street girls. Use the ATM"s at Sorriana Market near the Dominoes pizza on Revolucion or the Caliente casino a couple blocks south they are open late and are secure never had any issues with card fraud. If you never been to the zona I suggest you walk around during the day and do your recon. It is relatively a lot more safe during the day and you will have a lay of the land once night hits and are either too buzzed or tired to try to navigate at night. Once night falls Ubers or taxis are the only safe and reliable way to leave the zona. VIP card not really worth it unless you go multiple times per week. To me the cost does not justify the additional benefits for non frequent flyers. Waiters will hate on customers because they get jealous that girls they have crushes on are fucking other dudes or the girls will flirt with them and think they are into them when they are just hustling them to gain some benefit. Girls in these clubs are ruthless due to competition among other girls. The waiters can and do fuck with the girls money if they are rebuffed or feel slighted or girls will fuck other waiters or staff to get the other girls jealous so that is the nasty reality behind all the fake asses, tits, hair, and make up. This lifestyle is not all that glamorous to work in anybody in the adult entertainment industry can attest to this. So all in all the zona is a very fun and dangerous place to be a part of. Most of this is not new to seasoned vets but just wanted to give my insights to the new guys who are just starting out. Have fun out there and be safe. Also there is a lot more Tijuana has to offer besides the zona. I urge people to venture out during the day. Plaza Rio is a great place for civie action lots of hot young girls out shopping during the day.

  2. #8678
    Quote Originally Posted by StRobert  [View Original Post]
    A visit to the Hong Kong club, Adelita, to watch a show on stage, drinking beer is not illegal. If you say that on the border, there is no problem. I answer first I was at dinner in restaurants: Monte Carlo, Sushi One or Azul in Zona (it's true). If the agent still asks, I was at the Hong Kong club and watched the show and drink beer. (this is not illegal). There are no more questions because nothing is illegal. You can have "random checks" every few months. You go to the next room and exactly I do not know why but they probably check the authenticity of your passport card and if you really are you. There are no questions and after 5-10 minutes you can go. BTW About 10 years I was a witness at the pedeast at midnight, how a drunk American was angry because the agent asked him too many questions and began to beat him. He was arrested immediately.
    As others have said, I think what you say is less important than how you say it. Just my suspicion, but I think they are probably looking for signs of deception. So just be honest. Respectfully honest. LOL.

  3. #8677
    Quote Originally Posted by Muncher8888  [View Original Post]
    Does it matter what we tell them as far as bars or casinos or Caliente?

    "I was getting some wonderful pussy at the Zona"? OK I know that might not fly, but seriously can we say we are visiting the area regularly? I'm a 3 timer that wants to become a regular. Seems like the often (always?) question is going to be "Why were you here?
    A visit to the Hong Kong club, Adelita, to watch a show on stage, drinking beer is not illegal. If you say that on the border, there is no problem. I answer first I was at dinner in restaurants: Monte Carlo, Sushi One or Azul in Zona (it's true). If the agent still asks, I was at the Hong Kong club and watched the show and drink beer. (this is not illegal). There are no more questions because nothing is illegal. You can have "random checks" every few months. You go to the next room and exactly I do not know why but they probably check the authenticity of your passport card and if you really are you. There are no questions and after 5-10 minutes you can go. BTW About 10 years I was a witness at the pedeast at midnight, how a drunk American was angry because the agent asked him too many questions and began to beat him. He was arrested immediately.

  4. #8676
    I don't see why it would matter to the border agent what you do in Tijuana. Just be straight forward and remember you're coming back to the USA so be civil. Just tell them you were in the zona norte or the revolucion and if they ask more questions like what were you doing then just say Hong Kong and I'm sure they will understand. I've been to Tijuana about 15 times this year and I just tell them what I do with minimal questions asked. As long as you are not doing anything illegal such as bringing contraband then you are golden. They see thousands of people cross, they don't care if you down there for get a release.

    Quote Originally Posted by Muncher8888  [View Original Post]
    Does it matter what we tell them as far as bars or casinos or Caliente?

    "I was getting some wonderful pussy at the Zona"? OK I know that might not fly, but seriously can we say we are visiting the area regularly? I'm a 3 timer that wants to become a regular. Seems like the often (always?) question is going to be "Why were you here?

  5. #8675
    You don't have to say HK or Zona. Every time I just say I went to the bars, which is true. They already know and don't care about you. I wouldn't start stuttering and say you were there for the museums, they're going to know you're full of it.

  6. #8674

    Talking to agent (s) on way back into USA.

    Does it matter what we tell them as far as bars or casinos or Caliente?

    "I was getting some wonderful pussy at the Zona"? OK I know that might not fly, but seriously can we say we are visiting the area regularly? I'm a 3 timer that wants to become a regular. Seems like the often (always?) question is going to be "Why were you here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rpatl  [View Original Post]
    The agent did ask us at the entrance for our passports and where we had been. When we got to the agent at the processing line he did question us more than normal. He wanted to know where we were staying, what we did in Mexico, what games we played at the Casino, etc. If we weren't sober it could have been an issue.

  7. #8673
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    If not careful, anyone can blow more than $1,000 a night in HK.
    Captain,

    $1,000 a night is way out of my league. LOL. But I do admit to carrying way too much cash with me into Mexico. As a non-local, I make these trips count. I spend 4-7 days there at a time. And after my trip this month was such a success, planning another visit VERY soon. For budgeting, I typically plan nearly $400 per day. Each day, I plan for 1 escort, 1 BG, and either a massage or SG. That $400 includes fichas, my drinks, grope money, rooms, etc. That's probably on the high end. And don't worry, I'm not driving costs up. I hold the line at 80, lower when possible. But when you consider the cost of flights, hotel nights, etc. , I am going to make it worth my while when I am there.

    I do like the idea of crossing back over to the US vs carrying all that cash at once. But, my experience, as someone who lives thousands of miles away is that CBP gets more suspicious with consecutive daily crossings.

    I can't remember the post that started this conversation. But what I do, when carrying that much cash, is split it up in pockets, backpacks, etc. I'll have as many as five different stashes. If something was to happen, that would lessen the loss. Also, I was stopped by a CBP dog once for cash. That was on one of my very first visits. The agent was fine, just asked how much I had. That visit, I wasn't carrying that much. Maybe $300. But a lot of small bills. LOL Rookie move! I've learned a little since then. Haha.

  8. #8672

    Visit on 12.15. 16

    Hello!

    Just wanted to share with everyone how my visit went at HK.

    The boarder crossing into Mexico at 10:30 PM was not bad at all as there was no line. Once entering Mexico and walking down the sidewalk my friend and I only saw one cab driver before you get to the next set of turn style things. We got him down to $6 and went to HK.

    Upon arrival we were given the standard beer + $7 cover and immediately upon entry given a table upstairs. The Mesero kept saying the VIP was for free but honestly we thought it was a scam and those seats suck anyways. Our Mesero Jose gave us a table right in the middle looking down at all the action.

    He did give us a tip that I did not consider on my last visit. If you are certain you are going to take a girl for arriba when they bring her to you don't let her sit down and instead ask her how much for arriba. If you agree than go immediately and do not buy a drink for her. I have mixed feelings about this but it is one technique.

    The first girl I took for arriba was Helena. She was a hottie with bolt ONS and a body to die for with long hair. She said $100 and I didn't argue. She took a pounding and I was not disappointed at all. I was hot as hell though after destroying that pussy. Well worth the money and a freak.

    Next girl had been sitting around for a while and folks kept passing her by. She had a blue top on with legs to die for and super long black hair. So I tried the Meseros trick but actually went up to her and just asked how much for arriba. She said $80 and I said great. Man she was a freak that wanted to kiss and go hard at it. I was sweating like a mother and she was queefing a lot. Not that I care but I though that was hilarious.

    Third girl I took up was actually sitting with my buddy. He wasn't doing much of nothing with her and when he went to the bathroom she sat with me and started feeling Mr. Johnson. She gave me a couple dances and I took her for arriba for $80 as well. I had the benefit that my friend already got her a drink. This girl fucked me so hard I had to lay down for like 5 minutes after it was finished to catch my breath dude. Worth every penny and more. Felt bad for my friend but she was bored with his ass anyways.

    That brings us to about 4:00 AM at which point we exited and paid $5 to the cab to take us to the new boarder crossing. The guy asked about going to the old or new but I think it's the same. There are beggars along the way as you make it to entrance but it wasn't an issue. The agent did ask us at the entrance for our passports and where we had been. When we got to the agent at the processing line he did question us more than normal. He wanted to know where we were staying, what we did in Mexico, what games we played at the Casino, etc. If we weren't sober it could have been an issue.

    Back across at 4:15 AM and going to wrap this trip up tomorrow and go home.

    Dam that was a great night.

  9. #8671

    The poor chicas.

    To Scudrucker,

    HK meseros can make $100 or more a night with tips for each serving. Meanwhile most HK chicas make no or not much money, except popular strippers, and unless they get picked up for arribas a few times a night. They just hang around all night looking desperate.

    To encourage hot girls to come back to work, we should show them our appreciation for their beauty, grace and loving personalities by tipping them for each interaction. If a girl approaches me, I would always give her a kiss and a squeeze, a propina into her crotch and my adoration. HK girls are not all hard, cold business and can be very personal with the right guys. A few of my new wingmen are good-looking and well liked by the girls. Hot, tall girls would drape themselves over these guys, rubbing their sexy bodies all over them, smiling sweetly with all their eyes and faces, acting soft and sexy, trying to seduce them. I told these guys it's not personal with bar girls unless they give them BB sex for free hehe.

    The VIP lounge is not a good deal unless one is a flaming exhibitionist, getting his rock off making out and having sex in a semi public place with everyone lookng in. It will cost at least a bucket of fichas, big propinas for the girls and meseros, then most hot girls may not take their clothes off or do full-blown sex in that lounge. And various meseros will still barge in frequently to check if you need anything and to see how far you got with the girl!

    If you want hot times with the girls, the secret is to look deeply into their eyes, smiling sweetly, nodding approval and adoration. The girls will come over, smiling, draping themselves over you, cooing, cuddling you lovingly like a baby hehe.

  10. #8670

    Well said!

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    ...Single guys should never even think of marrying militant US women with their #METOO movement. They should fill their needs for female company and sex in Tijuana. Then they would have strength and leverage to deal with US women and have a few live-in girl friends who cannot put hooks into their brains.
    Absolutely agree! Sage advice.

  11. #8669
    Quote Originally Posted by Scudrucker  [View Original Post]
    ... however I have never opted for the private room with the bucket of mini-beers. I would like to hear some stories of private rooms, if the meseros leave you alone or are they knocking.

    Waste of money or should everyone try it once.
    I posted last week about my last visit, wondering if I was played by the ficha game. Appreciate the responses. Everyone agreed I wasn't played. I agree. Just a unique experience. With that same girl, a mesero was selling me hard on the private room. She's tapping me under the table and mouthing "No". After I sent him away, she explained that it was a rip-off. They'll hound you after a short while, not getting 30 minutes. She said let's just hang out here. Again, she could have hosed me and didn't.

    I suppose that with the right girl, that might be a reasonable expense. I have been tempted but have never pulled the trigger.

  12. #8668

    Other experiences.

    I have always watched my money and save what I can for the chicas. I spend $20 a day / night on ones for the gropes / chats or whatever, I have gone for the half price lapdance, and spent on many fichas for the girls; however I have never opted for the private room with the bucket of mini-beers. I would like to hear some stories of private rooms, if the meseros leave you alone or are they knocking.

    Waste of money or should everyone try it once. Last time there some guys that were flashing money and being rude as girls went up and down the stairs from the Miami room.

    There was some cannabis around but when they lit up the were told promptly that it was not allowed.

    The girl that told me offered me the joint as she said she did not smoke it.

    I know there are some other VIP areas just wondering what you can buy. It could be fun to overspend one night maybe 2 girls?

    Sr.

  13. #8667

    The game plan

    To Sploog.

    It's true TG has been for years trying to come up with excuses to get out of the ball and chain and have a night of pure hot sex without strings attached. This time he will go hog wild for a night in Tijuana. If not careful, anyone can blow more than $1,000 a night in HK. The devious meseros will show them how to have some naughty fun hehe. 2 of my wingmen went dead broke buying fichas and giving loans to HK chicas.

    Single guys should never even think of marrying militant US women with their #METOO movement. They should fill their needs for female company and sex in Tijuana. Then they would have strength and leverage to deal with US women and have a few live-in girl friends who cannot put hooks into their brains.

  14. #8666
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    Are there any safe neighborhoods in SD in walking distance to a trolley where one can leave a car overnight for free? $24 for a weekend border parking is freaking outrageous.
    Don't know the level of security at the trolley lots. I DO know that the lots at the shopping / cinema plaza on H boasts the highest rate of stolen cars in the USA Close to the freeway, minutes from the border. There's an internet list of the most stolen cars in Mexico, mostly from what I'm told models in current use as taxis. Best pay a few bucks to keep your sled in a closed lot.

  15. #8665
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    Are there any safe neighborhoods in SD in walking distance to a trolley where one can leave a car overnight for free? $24 for a weekend border parking is freaking outrageous.
    I always park on the trolley parking in Chula Vista along Interstate - 5. It's free 24 hours. But you must use a trolley. For example, trolley stations: E Street, H Street, Palomar Street. , Palm Ave, Beyer Blvd. I don't know all the stations, but E Street. And Palomar Street have a large parking. If you park on H Street you can after visiting Zona visit the famous "Tacos El Gordo" is open to 2 AM everyday and Friday, Saturday to 4 AM (it is right next to the parking). Last trolley from San Ysidro 1258 AM and next after 430 AM.

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