Hong Kong Club Reports

[NegotiateHard]

So what do you recommend? If HK bar isn't a good spot for affordable and easy sex with hot girls for Americans then where is? Convenience is critical. Some people want to make this a lifestyle, fucking hot girls every weekend with ease. Germany and Thailand may be excellent, but it's not practical to go there frequently if you are a guy living in the US.

To TerOnlyOnce.

Yep. Mo2 nerick is dead accurate in assessing HK. It's a fun place to drink and party with your friends, squeezing, groping, flirting with the girls, but most HK girls have gotten really bad in the sack the past 3 or 5 years. They would demand money upfront, then just do the minimum to get you off so they can quickly run back to the club, hooking more guys. Some HK girls even sell their stinking dead fish pussies along with their bad attitudes. They disgusted me and made me throw up. Damn.

Try to be friendly with a few street girls, many are nice, clean, pretty. If they know and trust you, would give you sex with genuine feelings and affection, without bar girl's bad attitudes, manipulations and BS. A few near hotel Mini would do BBBJ, BBFS and all sorts of kinky stuffs if asked.

My recommendation is to scout girls in AB and LC for good deals with better service. Although there are nights when both LC and AB can be dead, you never know what you can find. If these don't work, escorts are a great option. Guys are fools for paying $100 for a CBJ with no kissing and no DATY, however on a recent trip I know a complete new guy who got very good service and benefits for $80. Not bad but for only half an hour it's still pricey IMO and keep in mind you might as well add an extra $25-$30 on top of that for entry, room fees and tips.

If HK works, I say go for it but do what my username says. I have taken girls with whom I had better service after repeating but for the most part I am still too limited. HK truly is more of a party place. I honestly do have to shake my head when guys are regularly pumping hundreds of dollars per week for covered and rushed sex.

BTW, HK cover is now $7 on the busy evenings and nights? Seriously? What do you guys have to say about that?

[CheckMate1]

Survival? Really? HK girls are not just surviving, maybe the street girls are but HK girls make good money, I wouldn't be surprised that some of them make more money than an average man in the USA, if you think you can starve out these girls you are very wrong, specially now that a lot of tourists are showing up and offering more than the local customer, the demand is higher now and the girls know it.

While I will agree that some are making serious $$, most do not.

I agree with CS that we have more options than they do. Buyers, in almost every aspect of life, have the advantage. China goods prove that. As a buyer, you can choose a beer and a chat with them, and they'll make their couple of bucks. Some of the "pretty" ones or great "personality" will make more than others. But as a whole, they all fight for the same fixed $$ that goes into HK on a weekly basis. They all have bills, expenses, and expectations from HK to perform. For HK. Their income swing wildly between bad weeks and good weeks. Meanwhile, the lowly SG's outside are somewhat more stable. At least that is my perception from my 6 visits. I will agree that it's not scientifically sound, but just a guess. My observation and by RTFF, I've come to the conclusion that the turn over rate at HK is tremendous. If demand is high, and you're making a killing, why would you leave? Because we do not know, the rest of the story.

On my first trip, which was about a year ago, I offered un mil pesos to a bunch, and got plenty of takers. Here's where I think I can contribute to our team.

1. Go and have fun!

2. Don't think about money while you are in the arena.

3. Do the planning ahead of time of how much you want to spend, what you're looking for, what you like to experience, and so on.

I go to HK enjoy myself, if I want to spend $100 so be it, but I do that knowingly. I have never felt cheated, even with that one bolts on chica who delivered a mechanical performance. I went into it with the thought of, I have $1500 pesos left, I'm offering un mil to the most unnatural looking chica there because I want to say I did it. She took the offer, and everything else was expected.

I've met cool members from here, and look forward to meeting more of you guys when I'm there again in mid September. Viva Mexico!

[Captain Solo]

According to what I was told, only a few top-tiered HK girls, like 5 to 7, make good money due to high demand for their companies in hotels. The rest are not making much money fichas or arribas to pay rent and food in cascada, and just quit to go home to mamas.

Quite a few girls quit HK and work the street for 300-peso sessions because they would at least make 900 to 1,200 peso a day, compared to a low wage paid HK. A few very hot girls would alternately work HK, then the street, to survive, Ximena, Paola, Jessica.

So Clam is more accurate in his assessment of HK girls. They are are playing cool but are far more desperate than they appear, especially when rents and bill come up, or when they have to have a fix so bad hehe. Most would haggle a little but would go with my offer Un Mil locals' special hehe. One girl who declined my offer ended up working in front hotel Garcia. She was so shamed she could not look at me.

It's fun to go around using the art of the deals principles, talking all HK chicas, feelign them up, to get all special services I want, plus hot passion, for un mil pesos. If there are no hot girls or no bites in HK, there are plenty of nice, clean, hot street girls who would give you sex with genuine fun, affection and passion.

I know local guys negotiate hard with HK chicas for specific services and prices. Do what locals do. So, man up. Don't let the little girls rip you off then [CodeWord140] on you like fools!

[Asting]

Survival? Really? HK girls are not just surviving, maybe the street girls are but HK girls make good money, I wouldn't be surprised that some of them make more money than an average man in the USA, if you think you can starve out these girls you are very wrong, specially now that a lot of tourists are showing up and offering more than the local customer, the demand is higher now and the girls know it.

Yes, some of the girls in HK make banks. But the majority of the girls do not.

Agree, survival mode is kind of harsh. They just want to make decent living.

[Jim0129]

I think the meaning of "reasonable offer" just flew right over your head. If only 1 out of 20 girls accept this offer, then it wouldn't be "reasonable," would it? Of course not. By "reasonable offer" I of course meant an offer within the normal parameters of current market pricing. And $75 for a HK chica would be reasonable, especially days and weeknights. And bargain hunting will always cost more in the end. I don't know how you come to that conclusion. If a HK chica says no to $75, then you survey the scene for 15 seconds, walk up to the next hottest, and offer $75. How does that cost any more? There are no rules that mandate you buy drinks, fichas, tips, etc.

It all comes down to this:

Mongers are in the Zona for recreation. Putas are in the Zona for survival. Guess who will fold first when push comes to shove?

Survival? Really? HK girls are not just surviving, maybe the street girls are but HK girls make good money, I wouldn't be surprised that some of them make more money than an average man in the USA, if you think you can starve out these girls you are very wrong, specially now that a lot of tourists are showing up and offering more than the local customer, the demand is higher now and the girls know it.

[ClamSlammer]

This logic only works if there are enough chicas around ready to accept what you call "a reasonable offer". If only 1 out of 20 girls is likely to accept $75 - then it's also not worth my time to hunt around for a bargain. Bargain hunting will cost a monger more money at the end. Fichas, tips, extra beers, etc. Sure, a chica will have $75 less to take home, but equally you will spend $25 more while trying to save $15.

This all really comes down to an average market price and the power of collective bargaining. When majority of HK chicas refuse to accept anything less than $100 - then guess what, we all will be paying it.

I think the meaning of "reasonable offer" just flew right over your head. If only 1 out of 20 girls accept this offer, then it wouldn't be "reasonable," would it? Of course not. By "reasonable offer" I of course meant an offer within the normal parameters of current market pricing. And $75 for a HK chica would be reasonable, especially days and weeknights. And bargain hunting will always cost more in the end. I don't know how you come to that conclusion. If a HK chica says no to $75, then you survey the scene for 15 seconds, walk up to the next hottest, and offer $75. How does that cost any more? There are no rules that mandate you buy drinks, fichas, tips, etc.

It all comes down to this:

Mongers are in the Zona for recreation. Putas are in the Zona for survival. Guess who will fold first when push comes to shove?

[BMo814]

We are not necessarily telling anyone how to spend their own money, I know that I'm not. I look at it as giving advise, opinions and making suggestions that will benefit him. There is advise given to us in all aspects of life. Some of us seek out opinions and advice from others. It's up to us to take it or leave it and I say to all "Take it or leave it". It's your money, not mine. It's about your choices. You can choose your own way when it comes to doing things in your life, most people do. I will continue to hold the line on my position. My choice.

That's all I'm saying to each their own, I see many posting saying the newbies are raising the rates but if it's your first time and she ask directly for $100 it's because somebody has done it already and she probably doesn't know your are new. Also if every single one say it no matter their beauty on their booty it's probably company line, who knows maybe HK takes a bigger cut now. I'm with you tho my friend trust, like I said some I worked a lower price some I just gave in to what they asked. Depends on ya mind set and how loose the liquor has you as with most risky decisions LOL. Long we all leave happy with our nuts empty and enough to get home it's all good.

[TerOnlyOnce]

This logic only works if there are enough chicas around ready to accept what you call "a reasonable offer". If only 1 out of 20 girls is likely to accept $75 - then it's also not worth my time to hunt around for a bargain. Bargain hunting will cost a monger more money at the end. Fichas, tips, extra beers, etc. Sure, a chica will have $75 less to take home, but equally you will spend $25 more while trying to save $15.

This all really comes down to an average market price and the power of collective bargaining. When majority of HK chicas refuse to accept anything less than $100 - then guess what, we all will be paying it.

I think the point is you have other options. For example, street girls. You don't have to pay $100 or $75. You can always see a street girl for $20-30 if you really want to bust one off. I do agree though that bargain hunting can be a waste of time. Value your time, no point running around asking 20 girls before one will fuck, the point of going to HK is to fuck with ease.

[MongerHunger]

It's one thing tho you can never tell another man how to spend his money, you might think the guy who buys a Benz is a fool because the car going to depreciate but guess what it's his money. If that HK girl worth it to him let him spend it they will never get as bad as Atlanta o Miami strippers who men pay toms more and can barley touch them. I did a bit of both this first trip I used the art of the deal with a couple and a couple I just gave in but maybe it was beginners luck in Tijuana but all sessions were cool, girls playful talkative, screaming could be fake but they played their parts.

We are not necessarily telling anyone how to spend their own money, I know that I'm not. I look at it as giving advise, opinions and making suggestions that will benefit him. There is advise given to us in all aspects of life. Some of us seek out opinions and advice from others. It's up to us to take it or leave it and I say to all "Take it or leave it". It's your money, not mine. It's about your choices. You can choose your own way when it comes to doing things in your life, most people do. I will continue to hold the line on my position. My choice.

[BMo814]

This logic only works if there are enough chicas around ready to accept what you call "a reasonable offer". If only 1 out of 20 girls is likely to accept $75 - then it's also not worth my time to hunt around for a bargain. Bargain hunting will cost a monger more money at the end. Fichas, tips, extra beers, etc. Sure, a chica will have $75 less to take home, but equally you will spend $25 more while trying to save $15.

This all really comes down to an average market price and the power of collective bargaining. When majority of HK chicas refuse to accept anything less than $100 - then guess what, we all will be paying it.

You don't have to pick a HK chick then their is plent of options I stated I overplayed to prove a point maybe it was just to myself but I'm sure the chick that didn't get picked wasn't happy on losing out and it wasn't the money it was she tried to do some ole Chinese arithmetic like she was fooling me and what she had said she wanted in pesos was more that $100 dollars, I would have gave you the money even at the recognized exchange rate at HK but you just can't make up shit, that wasn't flying.

[MongerHunger]

Have only been here once and it was awhile ago so I don't remember some things. Where do the women draw the line in terms of touching them when you tip a dollar? I remember last time I went, I would tip a dollar and they'the let me play with their pussies and they seemed to like it but do you think they would've let me stick a finger in there LOL? Same case with the girls on stage, I tipped them a dollar and they seemed to not mind I was playing with their clit but I didn't try to finger them. Giving them a kiss, giving the nipple a little suck? Where do they usually draw the line?

Have you done your research here or RTFF? Just get you a front seat at the shaving cream show and your questions will be answered. You will be surprised with all that goes on during the show. It's one of my favorite things to do in HK.

[Ctytek]

2. A Tijuana puta that does not accept a reasonable offer, let's say $75 at HK, will almost always go home with $75 less than what they could have made. A monger that gets his $75 offer rejected, has literally 500 other immediate options within a 1 block radius. A puta that rejects a reasonable offer will rarely have another monger standing around waiting to pay more. Usually they'll stand there making nothing when they could be making the equivalent of a week's average Tijuana wage in 30 minutes.

This logic only works if there are enough chicas around ready to accept what you call "a reasonable offer". If only 1 out of 20 girls is likely to accept $75 - then it's also not worth my time to hunt around for a bargain. Bargain hunting will cost a monger more money at the end. Fichas, tips, extra beers, etc. Sure, a chica will have $75 less to take home, but equally you will spend $25 more while trying to save $15.

This all really comes down to an average market price and the power of collective bargaining. When majority of HK chicas refuse to accept anything less than $100 - then guess what, we all will be paying it.

[BMo814]

BMo814 is exactly right. In some relationships, power is unequal. And in other relationships, power is equally split. In the monger -puta relationship, power is split 100%/0% in favor of the monger. Many mongers do not realize this fact but it is so true. Why? I'll tell you:

1. Our kids are fed whether we fuck or not.

2. A Tijuana puta that does not accept a reasonable offer, let's say $75 at HK, will almost always go home with $75 less than what they could have made. A monger that gets his $75 offer rejected, has literally 500 other immediate options within a 1 block radius. A puta that rejects a reasonable offer will rarely have another monger standing around waiting to pay more. Usually they'll stand there making nothing when they could be making the equivalent of a week's average Tijuana wage in 30 minutes.

Right on Clamslammer and we can never let them forget that.

[BMo814]

The chicas are definitely hot in HK but these new aged bros are not about the negotiations. They don't have the game to talk up on some pussy. What happened to the men that handle their business when it comes to handling women? When a chica likes you she will negotiate with you. No doubt that some of these chicas view gringos as targets, marks, cash cows, walking ATMs, gold mines, etc. The illusion they use is to throw up a smoke screen in the beginning. Gas you up to boost your self esteem, ego and your little man. Then let you down cold and hard in the bed.

How many bros have had an unforgettable quality time with a high priced ($100 or more) HK girl?

It's one thing tho you can never tell another man how to spend his money, you might think the guy who buys a Benz is a fool because the car going to depreciate but guess what it's his money. If that HK girl worth it to him let him spend it they will never get as bad as Atlanta o Miami strippers who men pay toms more and can barley touch them. I did a bit of both this first trip I used the art of the deal with a couple and a couple I just gave in but maybe it was beginners luck in Tijuana but all sessions were cool, girls playful talkative, screaming could be fake but they played their parts.

[BMo814]

So let me get this right. Are you saying that you paid cien ($100) to go arriba and got the knock after only 10 minutes? HK shenanigans at it's best!

Yeah and I had a room at Cascadas they been seeing me go up and down maybe they didn't like how I was looking at the money LOL I don't know but it was all good the chick called out she was good and we finished the session.