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  1. #8079
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    To TerOnlyOnce.

    $100 is 1800 pesos at current exchange.

    For Newbies and out -of-town guys who only visit HK once a year, they would gladly spend $100 for a session then tip them some more hehe. That really fucks life up for the local guys who show their faces in HK every week. $100 is a whole month wage for uneducated clerks and factory workers. Paying that much to these little girls would only make them feel entitled and screw poor local guys out of the sex market. I urge the bros to have a heart and use some restraints to keep the sex market inflation from spiraling out of control. The giggling spinner in her tiny sequined bikini was not that hot, but the newbie loves girls in that size and shape. If he would go around inquiring and negotiating with the hottest girls in the club he could bag hotter girls for anywhere from 1000 pesos to $80. But it was his first time in HK and he was sort of overwhelmed hehe.

    I would go around the club inquiring and negotiating with the hottest girls and reject the high offers, just to keep the girls in their proper places and try to hold down inflation for the rest of the bros. But got to to admit, I did in the past screw a few true super models from Monterrey for $100. They were extremely beautiful, sexy and attractive and were used to the $100 standard rate in Monterrey, and also because I wanted them so bad hehe. I got the tel from the hottest, nicest and sweetest girl, trying to bring her back to Tijuana to work. I called her a few times with my very limited Spanish and her non existent English. With children playing and chicken quacking in the backgrounds, she seemed a good girl just needing to make a living in harsh economic time.

    Luckily I know a few top-tiered chicas in HK. They treat me like locals, giving me lots of love, lust and affection with lots of mutual pleasures in bed for my 1,000-peso offers. These sessions are a lot more satisfying than humping high-priced princesses, who are cold, distant, ornery, expressionless like sex robots hehe.

    The bros should be the boss of this sex market, try all negotiating tactics to hold down prices with the hottest girls. Make sure the girls are horny, want their bodies badly and treat them with lots of hot passion like their lovers in bed hehe.
    From your lips to gods ears everything is spot on.

    But I too have been guilty of spending $100 on girls from Monterrey, yes they were extremely beautiful, sexy and attractive and were used to the $100 standard rate in Monterrey.

    TTM.

  2. #8078
    Quote Originally Posted by ClamSlammer  [View Original Post]
    I help my friends run various businesses in Tijuana and have access to information regarding daily wages of several low-skill positions at several different establishments. And I know many, many locals and their family members. I can say that no one works for $4-$5 USD daily. The lowest anyone works for is $200 mx, with $220 being average and $250 being on the higher end. That's $11-$14 USD daily. These are low skill jobs such as cashier, receptionist, sales clerks, handymen, janitors, etc.
    I don't doubt that skilled / semi-skilled labor makes twice what I quoted in Tijuana or any major cities. (It's the same in US, how much a worker in San Francisco, CA makes as compared to one in Ames, IA.) But you have to figure that unskilled labor makes a lot less. And that the wages are a lot lower in rural areas. I based my "assumption" off the minimum wages of all Mexican workers as reported.

    https://wageindicator.org/salary/minimum-wage/mexico/

    It is also why a lot of folks come to Tijuana to find work.

  3. #8077
    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    If you wanted to pay in pesos how much would the girls ask for? Is $100 per pop a big deal for most mongers? In the US it's $300 per session. 1/3 the price and you get these "super model" type girls you speak of. Honestly, these girls are still selling services at such a steal price. 100 dollars? Super models? That's like pennies for the value that you are getting, these girls still have a long way to go if they want true value for their hot bodies.
    Why pay 100 when you and your fellow mongers can get it for 80.

  4. #8076
    Quote Originally Posted by OnceSailor  [View Original Post]
    your average mexican laborer makes $4 - $5 (USD) a day.
    I help my friends run various businesses in Tijuana and have access to information regarding daily wages of several low-skill positions at several different establishments. And I know many, many locals and their family members. I can say that no one works for $4-$5 USD daily. The lowest anyone works for is $200 mx, with $220 being average and $250 being on the higher end. That's $11-$14 USD daily. These are low skill jobs such as cashier, receptionist, sales clerks, handymen, janitors, etc.

  5. #8075
    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    If you wanted to pay in pesos how much would the girls ask for? Is $100 per pop a big deal for most mongers? In the US it's $300 per session. 1/3 the price and you get these "super model" type girls you speak of. Honestly, these girls are still selling services at such a steal price. 100 dollars? Super models? That's like pennies for the value that you are getting, these girls still have a long way to go if they want true value for their hot bodies.
    Personally I don't care if the going rate for pussy was $1000 in the US and I got a $100 USD offer in HK (1/10th the difference) because I know that is not the market price and it is on the high end. I know that I can get a lower price in HK for hot sexy good looking chicas. Don't make the mistake of accepting the first price the chica quotes you because 9 times out of 10 she is looking out for herself and not you. Then respond with a lower counter offer. I negotiate, I don't give in to demands of higher prices. You can even start off by quoting your own price but bros are willing to pay too much for rented pussy when their turn comes. There is no need to put premium prices on pussy and drive up the cost for others. These are not Super Models, they are Super Hos.

    Another mistake is that bros go with the first chica that gases them up without really just relaxing and seeing all the talent in the club. You will gain a good perspective by doing this. Scope things out. No need to rush it. Depending on the time you go to HK there can be a lot of sexy chicas to interview. Be confident in yourself and don't let the chica lead then you follow. It should be the opposite. You lead and she follows. Set your own pace. Don't be rushed or pressured in to wasting money. Don't be intimidated by a pretty piece of pussy in your face. Handle that shit like a man and it's game on. If I don't like the price or the vibe I walk. I don't care how fine she is because I know that this is Tijuana and I know that I will find what I am looking for, quality and good service. The thrill of the hunt, the adventure, the turn on.

    We need to look out for our Tijuana market. Help keep the prices stable in the Clubs, Bars and on the streets. Get more bang for our buck. It's a win-win situation for everyone from our fellow bros down to the chica. This is our Playground.

  6. #8074

    Wifi at de Oro.

    I moved to Jacuzzi room for Monday night to make the most out of my VIP card.

    The Jacuzzi room was few rooms down from my earlier room, but this room had crappy WiFi. I went outside and walked towards the reception and got good reception there.

    I had to sit on the stairs to get the WiFi to finish my online check-in for my return flight.

    Wifi was not an issue in Cascadas, I was able to stream Netflix when I stayed in Cascadas on my earlier trip.

    BTW tried to get jacuzzi room in Cascadas, they said only single and double rooms are available, Jacuzzi and Master rooms were all reserved, on a Monday! VIP program must be a big hit among HK crowd!

    Quote Originally Posted by HornyIndo  [View Original Post]
    I arrived at Cascadas early thinking I would get a better room. They told me they are full, I had made the mistake of not reserving a room before I arrived.

    They said there is a room available in de Oro, not having many options (I have a VIP card which I want to use to the maximum) I went across the street.

    Got a room in basement / ground level. Room is not bad, not sure if it will get noisy later in the evening / night.

    Funniest part is that the room has liquid soap, and not soap bars like cascadas.

    Came across a bunch of girls checking-in and walking around as if they work near by.

    These girls are hot even in civilian clothes, but they didn't show interest like other working girls you come across in Zona.

  7. #8073
    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer47  [View Original Post]
    Supply and demand determines market price. Legal prostitution means that many girls are free to sell their services. So supply and competition is much higher than the United States, where females are afraid to become providers because of the law. Girls lower their price to compete and in response to demand, or number of mongers available.

    American law and culture inflates the price of pussy.

    The price of pussy is generally very low in countries where prostitution is legal.
    Also places distance from "richer" countries. Japan prices are higher than US. But travel to Thailand or Philippines (where technically it is not legal) and an hour of full time fun is around $60. (Street girls there are usually under $20.) Prices in San Jose, Costa Rica is in the $60 - $80 range.

    And you need to remember, overpaying eventually leads to higher prices for all. Four years ago a girl asking for $100 was almost unheard of in Zona Norte. $80 was the usual ceiling / start of negotiations. And your average mexican laborer makes $4 - $5 (USD) a day.

    That cost might also explain why some BG will just spend the day pushing drinks rather than go up for a lower price. They can still make at least 2 times what an average joe makes.

  8. #8072
    Supply and demand will always rule the day. For me, it's a long trip and I maximize my time in Mexico. And yes, even with flight, hotel, etc, it is still a bit cheaper than local opportunities.

    But here's something to keep in mind before you break the price curve. The 30 minutes worth of work is more than a week's pay for many Mexicans. So there is a point where the chicas will get too greedy and bite off the hand that feeds them.

    In my first two trips years ago, I had the "what's a $20 difference" approach. Consider this though: there are SGs just outside those HK doors that will give you as good of a time for a fifth of those prices.

    Supply and demand. They'll charge you what you are willing to pay. But don't forget: the supply in Tijuana favors us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer47  [View Original Post]
    Supply and demand determines market price. Legal prostitution means that many girls are free to sell their services. So supply and competition is much higher than the United States, where females are afraid to become providers because of the law. Girls lower their price to compete and in response to demand, or number of mongers available.

    American law and culture inflates the price of pussy.

    The price of pussy is generally very low in countries where prostitution is legal.

  9. #8071

    HK's $100 sessions.

    To TerOnlyOnce.

    $100 is 1800 pesos at current exchange.

    For Newbies and out -of-town guys who only visit HK once a year, they would gladly spend $100 for a session then tip them some more hehe. That really fucks life up for the local guys who show their faces in HK every week. $100 is a whole month wage for uneducated clerks and factory workers. Paying that much to these little girls would only make them feel entitled and screw poor local guys out of the sex market. I urge the bros to have a heart and use some restraints to keep the sex market inflation from spiraling out of control. The giggling spinner in her tiny sequined bikini was not that hot, but the newbie loves girls in that size and shape. If he would go around inquiring and negotiating with the hottest girls in the club he could bag hotter girls for anywhere from 1000 pesos to $80. But it was his first time in HK and he was sort of overwhelmed hehe.

    I would go around the club inquiring and negotiating with the hottest girls and reject the high offers, just to keep the girls in their proper places and try to hold down inflation for the rest of the bros. But got to to admit, I did in the past screw a few true super models from Monterrey for $100. They were extremely beautiful, sexy and attractive and were used to the $100 standard rate in Monterrey, and also because I wanted them so bad hehe. I got the tel from the hottest, nicest and sweetest girl, trying to bring her back to Tijuana to work. I called her a few times with my very limited Spanish and her non existent English. With children playing and chicken quacking in the backgrounds, she seemed a good girl just needing to make a living in harsh economic time.

    Luckily I know a few top-tiered chicas in HK. They treat me like locals, giving me lots of love, lust and affection with lots of mutual pleasures in bed for my 1,000-peso offers. These sessions are a lot more satisfying than humping high-priced princesses, who are cold, distant, ornery, expressionless like sex robots hehe.

    The bros should be the boss of this sex market, try all negotiating tactics to hold down prices with the hottest girls. Make sure the girls are horny, want their bodies badly and treat them with lots of hot passion like their lovers in bed hehe.

  10. #8070
    Quote Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce  [View Original Post]
    If you wanted to pay in pesos how much would the girls ask for? Is $100 per pop a big deal for most mongers? In the US it's $300 per session. 1/3 the price and you get these "super model" type girls you speak of. Honestly, these girls are still selling services at such a steal price. 100 dollars? Super models? That's like pennies for the value that you are getting, these girls still have a long way to go if they want true value for their hot bodies.
    Supply and demand determines market price. Legal prostitution means that many girls are free to sell their services. So supply and competition is much higher than the United States, where females are afraid to become providers because of the law. Girls lower their price to compete and in response to demand, or number of mongers available.

    American law and culture inflates the price of pussy.

    The price of pussy is generally very low in countries where prostitution is legal.

  11. #8069

    Saturday night.

    I agree with Captain Solo that Saturday nights are sausage fests. They are fun but if looking to score your favorite girl you have competition.

    Mon and Tues. Are also fun. Not as many girls and no one should be paying more than 80.

    When I was a newbie I wish.

    -I knew the elevator at the rear of cascadas opened to azuls.

    -that azuls room service is fast and you can ask for items not on the menu.

    -someone had told me that upon entry ask the mesero for a drink but refuse the table. That just starts the ficha crap and you just got here.

    With drink in hand walk around and get a feel for the room and the girls. Don't forget your one dollar bills.

    Sat is like a party night and if the girls are holding out you may want to try another bar even for an hour.

    If your half price lap dance receipt is not being used you can pay the rest to get a lap dance card that will not expire.

    My first visit of the day ask for lap dance and drink voucher even if too early for you.

    If you buy your own condoms and lube you can just wave to reception desk, very convenient at busy times and saves a buck.

  12. #8068
    Quote Originally Posted by AbsoluteEpic  [View Original Post]
    I got a reservation at the Cascade Master Suite does anyone know what floor this would be on? I ask since my last room was a "luxury" on a floor I can't remember for the life of me. It had a safe and a fellow monger said it was a newer one, and it was far too noisy at night for my liking.

    I was wondering what kind of experiences people have had in the Cascade's master suites. Also how to the girls tend to take it? Will I be eyed like a piece of meat once they realize or is it pretty mundane to them? I got it mostly for my own satisfaction, so I don't really mind if they aren't to reactive to it.
    Most of Cascades' Master Suites were stacked around the middle of their western-most hallway. There was a Master Suite on the third floor at room number 327 or 329 that was equipped with a stripper's pole in addition to regular MS amenities. Master Suites are generally double-size rooms equipped with a 2-person reclining Jacuzzi, king-size bed, small refrigerator and room safe. Vertically there were additional Master Suites at rooms numbered either 427, 527 & 627 or was it 429, 529 & 629? As I recall, the fifth floor MS room was called the "Fetish" room and it came equipped with a sex swing in addition to the jacuzzi, fridge and safe. I had also once stayed in a Cascades Master Suite room that was tucked right behind the older elevator. That MS was number 226 or 228 (or maybe #326 or 328?) and it seemed a little larger than the western MS' with a 3-person triangular-shaped jacuzzi. The western MS are noise impacted by HK on the lower levels, but the one I stayed in with the triangle-shaped tub was very quiet overnight and accessed by a very short hallway. Cascades also has a couple of Junior suites next to the conference center and the 2nd floor dining room balcony for Azul. The junior suites cram a smaller Jacuzzi into a single-size room, but offer no fridge.

    The Rizo de Oro has two Master Suites. One I have only seen in pictures which has a King-size bed and large round Jacuzzi. I have stayed in Rizo de Oro's other Master Suite which is IIRC room #59. That RdeO Master suite has a King-size canopy bed & 2-person Jacuzzi. It also had an alcove with a queen-size bed, table & chairs, 2nd wardrobe and 2nd TV. This RdeO Master Suite had no refrigerator.

    Different chicas react differently to the Master Suites, depends on the girl.

  13. #8067
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Took 2 newbies to Tijuana to introduce them to Tijuana's finest senoritas.

    We got free drinks from the bar then cruised the club checking out HK's sexy girls. The club was packed with lots of guys and girls. All tables and couches were taken with guys and girls doing lap dances. The strippers and foam show girls did not look very hot, but there were many, perhaps a dozen, extremely hot, super model-quality new girls, 10's in my book, hanging out in the club..
    If you wanted to pay in pesos how much would the girls ask for? Is $100 per pop a big deal for most mongers? In the US it's $300 per session. 1/3 the price and you get these "super model" type girls you speak of. Honestly, these girls are still selling services at such a steal price. 100 dollars? Super models? That's like pennies for the value that you are getting, these girls still have a long way to go if they want true value for their hot bodies.

  14. #8066

    Saturday night with Newbies and HK's hot super models.

    Took 2 newbies to Tijuana to introduce them to Tijuana's finest senoritas.

    We got free drinks from the bar then cruised the club checking out HK's sexy girls. The club was packed with lots of guys and girls. All tables and couches were taken with guys and girls doing lap dances. The strippers and foam show girls did not look very hot, but there were many, perhaps a dozen, extremely hot, super model-quality new girls, 10's in my book, hanging out in the club.

    We got a table near the main stage. My wingman bought a pretty spinner in a tiny and sexy green sequined bikini a ficha drink. She was sitting on his lap, giggling, wiggling, touching, talking Spanish. His first time in HK; he was afraid his touch would spoil her youthful innocence and exquisite beauty. He tried to communicate with his 4 years of high school Spanish, but did not get far. He was smitten with her beauty and sexiness and was pretty much speechless. For arriba she wanted $100 firm and would not budge. I offered her un Mil con propina; she just smiled and shook her head. I pointed out a few other hotter spinners cruising the club, suggested he play a hard game and let her go. After about 15 minutes when the ficha drink ran out, she called his bluff, picked up her hand bag and left, promptly went to the balcony selling more fichas and lap dances.

    In the same amount of time, she could have made a lot more money with $80 sessions than selling fichas, but perhaps pretty girls have their pride to maintain. I was hoping to find a few girls I know who would give him a sweet, sexy, passionate session at lower rates, but it was his first time, and I should have let him bag his dream spinner at $100 for a taste of HK's pussy. A few street girls, you know who, went to work in HK, sitting with guys. Karla from Veracruz is now working in Tropical. I stopped her on Coahuila and got her tel. She was hot and sexy, giving me DFKs while I squeezed her butt and groped her boobs hehe. The girls would definitely make more money on the street than collecting $3 fichas per hour in the club. WTF?

    We went to the balcony, looking down on the crowd squeezing around the main stage like a can pf sardines. HK's floor manager gave us 2 free beers to welcome a new customer. The bro did not drink so I had to help him hehe. Sat and bullshit with a couple Hmong warriors who looked fierce. It was like sitting a the bar with Chewbawa and those weird aliens in Star Wars hehe. HK's weird clientele is sometimes entertaining. There were a few new girls, very beautiful, super model quality, hanging out and second floor, beating out skanky anorexic US super models by a wide margin in beauty and grace. Every girl we talked to wanted $100 firm, probably due to high demand Saturday night. Damn, we are federally fucked with HK's pussy inflation.

    Will come back Tuesday night when the club is not too crowded and save the ammo to bag those super models at lower rates. Had a fun night partying with a couple newbies.

  15. #8065

    Vip.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer47  [View Original Post]
    So I remember reading about reports about people experiencing difficulty getting the VIP card discounts on rooms. I think I read the best way to ensure you get a room is to reserve a room, ask for a room without mentioning the reservation or VIP card, get a room assigned to you, then tell them about the VIP card.

    Does that sound about right? Or is all that not needed?

    Does the VIP card require a reservation for the room discounts?
    I just gave them I had a reservation halfway thru I laid my VIP card down on the counter and I got my discounts no problem.

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