Hong Kong Club Reports

[JPF]

There are only 2 kinds of passports. The traditional book, and a passport card.

The passport card is ONLY good for LAND or SEA crossings into / out of Mexico or Canada. It's can't be used for air travel between the USA and any other country.

An enhanced drivers license is a different animal. California does not have them because, in our infinite wisdom, we issue licenses to illegal aliens. But they are a state-issued ID, not a Federal, although they comply with Federal mandates. Basically you can use an enhanced DL to cross in the Ready lanes between Mexico and the USA. I assume Canada, too, but I'm not positive.

According to the release below California started offering enhanced driver licenses on Jan. 22,2018.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/de...l/2017/2017_86

[Phordphan]

Thanks for the responses guys. Regarding passport issues. I still don't totally understand that. I went to the post office at home and asked. They were even unsure of what the differences were between the various passports you can get. Traditional, card, enhanced license, etc. It's too late for me to get a card before this trip so I will just use my passport. I will be getting a card at some point though as I probably will visit Tijuana a couple of times per year.

There are only 2 kinds of passports. The traditional book, and a passport card.

The passport card is ONLY good for LAND or SEA crossings into / out of Mexico or Canada. It's can't be used for air travel between the USA and any other country.

An enhanced drivers license is a different animal. California does not have them because, in our infinite wisdom, we issue licenses to illegal aliens. But they are a state-issued ID, not a Federal, although they comply with Federal mandates. Basically you can use an enhanced DL to cross in the Ready lanes between Mexico and the USA. I assume Canada, too, but I'm not positive.

[Aceite]

Hi guys,

Thanks for your responses. I read every single one of your responses.

I understand that it's not illegal to visit Hong Kong to have sex with an adult prostitute.

But it's also not illegal to visit Thailand. But I have heard of people getting in trouble for visiting too many times. I think it's a circumstantial evidence thing, if you visit Thailand too frequently and you have no business there, that will raise red flags and they will use the circumstantial evidence against you.

Is every girl working at Hong Kong necessarily over 18? That's another problem.

Probably best to not go if your this paranoid. Not a single person going in and out of Mexico for the ladies have or posted having this issue dreamed up over active imagined problem.

[JohnCandy]

Thanks for the responses guys. Regarding passport issues. I still don't totally understand that. I went to the post office at home and asked. They were even unsure of what the differences were between the various passports you can get. Traditional, card, enhanced license, etc. It's too late for me to get a card before this trip so I will just use my passport. I will be getting a card at some point though as I probably will visit Tijuana a couple of times per year.

Because if the items are in your hands, you have control of them. If the monkeys search and take your cash, they have control.

Also, I suggest you get a passport card.

[LukeSkywalker]

So far it's not illegal to go overseas to do anything you want, except child prostitution and pornography.

There have been guys going to Thailand and Cambodia for child prostitution, so CPB will scrutinize guys who go there often.

I have been going to Tijuana and other parts of Mexico for over 20 years. I applied and got Global Entry privilege quickly. CBP usually waves me through border quickly. They are not targeting or suspecting me. If asked. I would just say visiting friends. All is OK.

So relax. If CBP wrongly harasses or prosecutes you, you can always sue them for big money.

Hi guys,

Thanks for your responses. I read every single one of your responses.

I understand that it's not illegal to visit Hong Kong to have sex with an adult prostitute.

But it's also not illegal to visit Thailand. But I have heard of people getting in trouble for visiting too many times. I think it's a circumstantial evidence thing, if you visit Thailand too frequently and you have no business there, that will raise red flags and they will use the circumstantial evidence against you.

Is every girl working at Hong Kong necessarily over 18? That's another problem.

[Phordphan]

Hi guys,

Thanks for your responses. I read every single one of your responses.

I understand that it's not illegal to visit Hong Kong to have sex with an adult prostitute.

But it's also not illegal to visit Thailand. But I have heard of people getting in trouble for visiting too many times. I think it's a circumstantial evidence thing, if you visit Thailand too frequently and you have no business there, that will raise red flags and they will use the circumstantial evidence against you.

Is every girl working at Hong Kong necessarily over 18? That's another problem.

This is Mexico, not Thailand. But concerning Thailand, they sometimes check if a person has a lot of entrances and exits over an extended period of time. This "red flag" is because far too many people flout their laws and stay extended periods of time on a regular tourist visa by exiting and reentering the country every time their tourist visa expires. Upon reentry these cretins get another 30 - 90 days. Then, after the 90 days is up, they go on another visa run, and repeat. This results in a ton of entry and exit stamps in their passports, at least 4 per year. Some have done this for years and the Thais are tired of it. This has absolutely nothing to do with the ladies.

If you intend to enter / exit Mexico frequently, and don't drive your car, simply get a 6-month FMM the next time you cross. Then you can come and go as you please. There is no law in the USA concerning how many times you can exit and leave. Go easy on the paranoia, and stop listening to people who don't travel.

Let me refer you to my earlier post stating that prostitution in Mexico is REGULATED. This means there are laws, and the large clubs must follow them or bad things tend to happen. One of those is that the girls must be 18. So, I don't know where you got the idea that this is a "problem. " If you're that worried, stick with the main bars, and make sure every girl with whom you interact looks at least 25.

[MikeyMike87]

Good to see you here as well at kxk85. I recall you spent some time with FatClown in HK a couple of days ago. I was looking forward to reading about FatClown's adventures. Hopefully a lot more guys will continue posting here.

I am glad I found a few familiar names here.

[TomJackin]

I'm sorry if this has been addressed previously, but regarding the local police. If you are stopped on the street and searched / harassed / whatever, it seems like the suggested thing to do is to hold your cash / phone / passport in your hand rather than leave them in your pockets to find. Why is that? It's seems that they could take it from your hands as easily as they.

Could from your pockets. Any enlightenment on this would be.

Greatly appreciated. I will be there 4/22-23 if anyone wants to meet up.

JC.

Because if the items are in your hands, you have control of them. If the monkeys search and take your cash, they have control.

Also, I suggest you get a passport card.

[Lance316]

This. Also, the United States does not have laws regulating the behavior of US citizens with adult prostitutes abroad. Even if the United States passed such laws in the future, from what I understand, new laws are not applied retroactively.

Hi guys,

Thanks for your responses. I read every single one of your responses.

I understand that it's not illegal to visit Hong Kong to have sex with an adult prostitute.

But it's also not illegal to visit Thailand. But I have heard of people getting in trouble for visiting too many times. I think it's a circumstantial evidence thing, if you visit Thailand too frequently and you have no business there, that will raise red flags and they will use the circumstantial evidence against you.

Is every girl working at Hong Kong necessarily over 18? That's another problem.

[ScatManDoo]

I'm sorry if this has been addressed previously, but regarding the local police. If you are stopped on the street and searched / harassed / whatever, it seems like the suggested thing to do is to hold your cash / phone / passport in your hand rather than leave them in your pockets to find. Why is that? It's seems that they could take it from your hands as easily as they.

Could from your pockets. Any enlightenment on this would be.

Greatly appreciated. I will be there 4/22-23 if anyone wants to meet up.

JC.

They can take it from your hands only if you allow it.

More than once I've marshalled my cash in my hands only to be asked to hand it over to the Tijuana cop. In those instances (maybe three or four times) I have refused and was only willing to fan my money or shuffle each bill so I could demonstrate that I was not hiding something else in my hand full of cash. The cops were satisfied with that and didn't purse anything further.

One time I was about to enter the Leyva when I was stopped. I had little cash on me (just some small bills in my front pocket and a twenty in the back pocket of my jeans) and allowed the policia to go through my pockets. Guess what? The twenty disappeared!. No druggas were found and at the conclusion of the stop the officer asked if everything was OK. I said no, my twenty dollar bill in missing and it was in my back pocket. The cop hemmed and hawed and eventually went back through my pockets and stuffed my twenty back into my rear pocket and asked me to check again.

I "found" my twenty and he said I must have been mistaken as he left me to seek out other prey.

[ScottHall]

Ironically, Hong Kong is the safest answer to give to an agent. The second you mention Hong Kong they let you through and won't see you as anything suspicious. I'm pretty they know why most of us are crossing the border.

[Flyer47]

It is not illegal to visit Hong Kong. It is not illegal to have relations with a girl who works in HK. Prostitution is legal, and regulated, in Mexico. In other words, if the girl has a health card she is legal. Clubs like HK insist the girls have their cards.

So you can tell the agent you went to HK, Adelita, and every freaking club in the Zona Norte. They are not the morality police and there is nothing they can do.

End of story.

This. Also, the United States does not have laws regulating the behavior of US citizens with adult prostitutes abroad. Even if the United States passed such laws in the future, from what I understand, new laws are not applied retroactively.

[JohnCandy]

I'm sorry if this has been addressed previously, but regarding the local police. If you are stopped on the street and searched / harassed / whatever, it seems like the suggested thing to do is to hold your cash / phone / passport in your hand rather than leave them in your pockets to find. Why is that? It's seems that they could take it from your hands as easily as they.

Could from your pockets. Any enlightenment on this would be.

Greatly appreciated. I will be there 4/22-23 if anyone wants to meet up.

JC.

[StRobert]

I live in southern California. Some time ago, I went to Tijuana to visit the infamous Hong Kong. I plead the fifth regarding what I did there but let's just say I finally became a man. When coming back to the US, I was asked by the officer some questions, including "why did you go to tijuana" "where did you go?" like an idiot, I told him "Hong Kong". My friend told me I should have just said "I went to look around the city" and shouldn't have said Hong Kong.

I want to visit that club again, but I am afraid it's a crime because I have heard that even if you do prostitution outside the country, it's still a crime.

So my question to all you experienced Hong kongers is, when coming back to the US, have you ever told the officers you went to Hong Kong? If yes, did you encounter any problems later on?

Can I safely go to Tijuana again or will they be like "why do you go so many times? Something must be going on here"?

When you come back, say I was on Avenida Revolucion or in a restaurant such as "Monte Carlo" near Adelita or "Sonora grill" opposite Adelita, which in my case is true because I'm always there. You can say I was in Hong Kong and watched the show and I had a few beers, which is not illegal. But I advise you not to mention anything that you had sex or chica name, how much you paid, room number, etc. Keep this information to yourself. Currently, for a US citizen, sex with an adult legal prostitute abroad (eg. Tijuana, Colombia, Germany, etc.) is not illegal. Remember also that prostitution is also legal in the USA in several counties in Nevada. If you are a US citizen, you do not do anything illegal, you can cross borders whenever you want. Know your rights, the US is free and the democratic country we do not live in North Korea.

[Phordphan]

I live in southern California. Some time ago, I went to Tijuana to visit the infamous Hong Kong. I plead the fifth regarding what I did there but let's just say I finally became a man. When coming back to the US, I was asked by the officer some questions, including "why did you go to tijuana" "where did you go?" like an idiot, I told him "Hong Kong". My friend told me I should have just said "I went to look around the city" and shouldn't have said Hong Kong.

I want to visit that club again, but I am afraid it's a crime because I have heard that even if you do prostitution outside the country, it's still a crime.

So my question to all you experienced Hong kongers is, when coming back to the US, have you ever told the officers you went to Hong Kong? If yes, did you encounter any problems later on?

Can I safely go to Tijuana again or will they be like "why do you go so many times? Something must be going on here"?

It is not illegal to visit Hong Kong. It is not illegal to have relations with a girl who works in HK. Prostitution is legal, and regulated, in Mexico. In other words, if the girl has a health card she is legal. Clubs like HK insist the girls have their cards.

So you can tell the agent you went to HK, Adelita, and every freaking club in the Zona Norte. They are not the morality police and there is nothing they can do.

End of story.