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  1. #18194
    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan  [View Original Post]
    Yes, I have. Many times. But one has to stop treating the girl like a piece of meat, and start treating them like a human being. If you pay attention and listen you can learn a lot about a different culture from hookers. Sure, it takes a bit more effort. IMO it's worth it.
    While I'm on the subject, I can't believe how many posters are criticizing you for taking a bar girl on "vacation. " First, it's nobody's business but yours. Second, you'll never learn anything of interest in a bar. Once you get them out of the bar environment for a few days you may be able to learn things and gain insights. Otherwise, why travel? Stay home and watch pr0 n.
    Relax... You're acting as if all my posts have been exclusively about using and abusing working girls lmao. I'm simply highlighting that there's an exchange. I get what I want, she gets what she wants. Anything benefits beyond that is extra, which would be welcome.

    A girl is welcome to talk about anything she wants and I'll happily converse to the best of my ability barring any restrictions due to a language barrier.
    A girl is also welcome to tell me what she is or isn't comfortable with in the bedroom, I'd never pressure her into something she's not comfortable with.
    This goes for being inside the club & anywhere outside.

    My point was simply that its more rare to find a girl who can engage in stimulating conversation than not, but stimulating conversation is also not my priority in this hobby, merely a bonus if it occurs.
    My priority being emptying my nuts.. i'd assume like most mongers.

    But i agree with you about the travelling part... while i enjoy very much Hong Kong and how fun it can be... its nice to see the sunlight once in a while lol and just relax... normal life is already stressful enough, i don't have the energy or patience to stress myself out further when mongering

  2. #18193

    Poopy Pussy

    When you treat your vagina like a trash can it starts smelling like one.

  3. #18192

    Stinky Snatch! Stinky Snatch!

    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherMouzone  [View Original Post]
    It's his thing that he likes to continue to harp on for whatever reason. Don't know why chica hygiene has to continually be raised as an issue (most frequently by him) on these boards. Will say that I've personally never had a problem with any chicas where that's concerned and really wish this topic was brought up less. It's borderline disgusting (LOL) to discuss female hygiene and it's the same point being made over and over and over again.
    I have a good bud and fellow Mexico traveler who lost his sense of smell in a skateboard fall. Sadly it also affects his taste. He now has a superpower!! - he can dive face first in some of the dirtiest holes south of the boarder and always come up with a huge smile! he's not the best guy to get a chica report from. Typical report is "the chica was awesome, but she could have the stankest snatch and I wouldn't even know. ?" So perhaps you can't smell or your sense of smell is tuned down. There are many people with tuned up sense of smells like myself and if you think spending $100's + drinks and narrowing down 2-3 girls you are chasing in the club to 1, and then after hours find your dick curling up because you caught 1 whiff of some of the most foul moldy fish sauce created. Is a nothing burger to try to problem solve. I think you are wrong. IF HK supervisors read these posts, then dead fish needs to be reported even if if makes you squidish. This is a business. And business can always, always be run better. Especially if middle management lesbian penis envy mamaasan's are out pushing out tainted product for personal reasons.

  4. #18191
    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherMouzone  [View Original Post]
    Well, I'd say it at least to an extent becomes our business to provide criticism / feedback once they've decided (of their own accord) to post the details of their business on a public forum such as this. But, as I've said numerous times on this issue, to each his own. I don't care how the next man decides to spend their time or $$$ on these chicas, was just pointing out that it's something I'd never in a million years do with a relative stranger who MAY have deep-rooted issues which led to her becoming a hooker in the first place. Also consider that a lot of these girls have men that they truly love at home, which can further complicate things and make things awkward. So all things considered, strikes me as not the best judgment and there are plenty of other fish out in the sea but again, do you.
    I think you're reading too much into it. Many girls are willing to travel, simply to experience new things they might otherwise never get to experience. To me it looks like they both had fun, to one degree or another, nobody was hurt, nobody got taken to the cleaners financially, and OP learned a lot. I'd call that a win. Next time he'll know more and the experiences will improve.

  5. #18190
    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherMouzone  [View Original Post]
    Well, I'd say it at least to an extent becomes our business to provide criticism / feedback once they've decided (of their own accord) to post the details of their business on a public forum such as this. But, as I've said numerous times on this issue, to each his own. I don't care how the next man decides to spend their time or $$$ on these chicas, was just pointing out that it's something I'd never in a million years do with a relative stranger who MAY have deep-rooted issues which led to her becoming a hooker in the first place. Also consider that a lot of these girls have men that they truly love at home, which can further complicate things and make things awkward. So all things considered, strikes me as not the best judgment and there are plenty of other fish out in the sea but again, do you.
    You make way too much sense. People will get even more confused now.

    In all seriousness though some guys fall hook, line, and sinker no matter where the pussy comes from. You CANNOT reason with guys like this. They can be the most successful person with a laundry list of degrees but when it comes to women and common sense they fall apart.

    You have to let them experience the negatives first hand. There is NO other way they will learn.

  6. #18189
    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan  [View Original Post]
    While I'm on the subject, I can't believe how many posters are criticizing you for taking a bar girl on "vacation. " First, it's nobody's business but yours. Second, you'll never learn anything of interest in a bar. Once you get them out of the bar environment for a few days you may be able to learn things and gain insights. Otherwise, why travel? Stay home and watch pr0 n.
    Well, I'd say it at least to an extent becomes our business to provide criticism / feedback once they've decided (of their own accord) to post the details of their business on a public forum such as this. But, as I've said numerous times on this issue, to each his own. I don't care how the next man decides to spend their time or $$$ on these chicas, was just pointing out that it's something I'd never in a million years do with a relative stranger who MAY have deep-rooted issues which led to her becoming a hooker in the first place. Also consider that a lot of these girls have men that they truly love at home, which can further complicate things and make things awkward. So all things considered, strikes me as not the best judgment and there are plenty of other fish out in the sea but again, do you.

  7. #18188
    Quote Originally Posted by Phordphan  [View Original Post]
    Yes, I have. Many times. But one has to stop treating the girl like a piece of meat, and start treating them like a human being. If you pay attention and listen you can learn a lot about a different culture from hookers. Sure, it takes a bit more effort. IMO it's worth it.

    I've learned much about rural life in Thailand from Thai bar girls, just for one example. Growing up on a farm, village life, special treats like silkworms after working to unravel the silk from their cocoon. Eating in Thai-only restaurants and drinking / dancing in Thai-only discos. Places most foreigners would never set foot in.

    I'll never forget breaking through the shell of a Cambodian girl who "worked beer" in Seam Reap. She still cried when she related life as a young girl in a small village, and when the Viet soldiers came through looking for Pol Pot sympathizers. They kidnapped her brother, never to be seen again, and tortured her father to death.

    So, yes, one can learn a lot about life and other cultures from hookers if one stops being self-absorbed for a few minutes.

    While I'm on the subject, I can't believe how many posters are criticizing you for taking a bar girl on "vacation. " First, it's nobody's business but yours. Second, you'll never learn anything of interest in a bar. Once you get them out of the bar environment for a few days you may be able to learn things and gain insights. Otherwise, why travel? Stay home and watch pr0 n.
    Perfectly said. The arrogance on these boards can be nauseating. If you see these girls as hookers, treat them like hookers, and only look to find the hole you desire, then, no, you wouldn't see the value. Because there's another hole that can be filled in Tijuana less than 6 feet away. But, that also doesn't mean your opinion is valid. I have gone on vacations with more than one working girl. Granted, I haven't sprung for a flight to Thailand. But I've taken Medellin girls to Cartagena or Playa del Carmen. I've taken Tijuana girls to Cabo or Cancun. I even brought a Vallarta girl to Medellin. Yes, the bringing sand to the beach analogy isn't wrong. However, there are girls that I just enjoy their company. Do we discuss quantam physics? No. But we do carry on interesting, intelligent conversations. I'm a 6-figure, white collar worker and I'd like to think my intelligence is above average. (I suppose most of us would feel that way.) Nonetheless, one of my most recent "vacations" was with an HK girl. We went to her home country. This girl is really into politics. And she and I probably could be best described as polar opposities politcally. However, she is fascinating. The sex is fantastic, but I don't fly 6 hours with her just to have sex. She's interesting. And I dare say, it makes the sex better.

    Bottom line, no, in my opinion, it would make no sense to bring a girl on a long, expensive trip when you're only interest is in banging her silly. But if you enjoy her company, trust her, and agree on the financials, I say go for it! As always, people on this board are myopic. Their experiences and desires are the only correct answer.

    And before anyone flames me, these were not expensive trips. Typically, I'll pay travel expenses, I. E. Flight, hotel and most meals. And that usually covers it. Here's a secret. Most of these "poor, uneducated country girls", as many have called them, love to travel. And they are very thankful.

  8. #18187
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I know a HK chica who wants to travel to Thailand.

    The problem is that she doesn't speak English. Not to mention all the other issues associated with traveling with a bargirl.

    One obvious approach is to engage slowly, maybe go to the DF for a few days. If she can't handle that, she can't go to Thailand.

    If she isn't serious, no problem, I will just see her in the bar.
    Sounds like you've been in Thailand too long. How about bringing a Thai to Mexico or just do a week or two in Mexico by yourself? Variety is the spice of life.

  9. #18186
    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    Last thing I need is to take a chica I don't know well enough to Tulum & make a pit stop at the local LV store and have a $10 k hole in my wallet LOL.

    The nicest store between Rosarito and Tijuana I've seen so far is sephora. Which on that note is quite shit.

    That store had nothing in stock and everything was more expensive than the US sephoras oddly enough.
    It is hard to paint a broad brush over the whole population of working girls. They come from all walks of life just like mongers do. The main thing you need to know is that you control how much you're willing to spend on this hobby just like any other. Some people have varying hobbies like watch, car, various other collections. The main thing you're paying for is the experience.

    I would say the majority of the working girls have same story, poor economic conditions that made them decide to trade their time for money and do something strange for some change. Most you find around the world are hardened pros. The beauty I see about Mexico and Thailand is that you meet some trying to get themselves and their families out of their challenging economic situations. It is opposite compared to the ones you'll find in USA, Dubai, Europe where they are looking for their next luxury trip or luxury clothing item. You can meet some that are genuine and authentic and show you their country. They are your translator, lover, and friend when times are good. The general consensus from mongers are pay, enjoy, and move to the next. I agree with that concept, but you don't get to experience the country without the help of a local. Main thing is to have fun, enjoy life, and stay safe!

  10. #18185

    Fishy smell

    I finally encountered a fishy smelling chica down below. It definitely does cause a gag reflex. But still not worth all the discussion that has appeared on this board, LOL.

  11. #18184
    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    In fairness. Has anyone actually met a hooker that was interesting in any aspect beyond the work they do?

    Regardless of where you do this, MX, Asia, etc. One can only prepare so much, but I never go into a trip like this expecting intellectual conversations, witty banter, etc.

    You can hardly expect that from well educated non-working girls. It'd be a shock if a hooker working in a 3rd world brothel could be stimulating anything besides emptying my nuts.
    Yes, I have. Many times. But one has to stop treating the girl like a piece of meat, and start treating them like a human being. If you pay attention and listen you can learn a lot about a different culture from hookers. Sure, it takes a bit more effort. IMO it's worth it.

    I've learned much about rural life in Thailand from Thai bar girls, just for one example. Growing up on a farm, village life, special treats like silkworms after working to unravel the silk from their cocoon. Eating in Thai-only restaurants and drinking / dancing in Thai-only discos. Places most foreigners would never set foot in.

    I'll never forget breaking through the shell of a Cambodian girl who "worked beer" in Seam Reap. She still cried when she related life as a young girl in a small village, and when the Viet soldiers came through looking for Pol Pot sympathizers. They kidnapped her brother, never to be seen again, and tortured her father to death.

    So, yes, one can learn a lot about life and other cultures from hookers if one stops being self-absorbed for a few minutes.

    While I'm on the subject, I can't believe how many posters are criticizing you for taking a bar girl on "vacation. " First, it's nobody's business but yours. Second, you'll never learn anything of interest in a bar. Once you get them out of the bar environment for a few days you may be able to learn things and gain insights. Otherwise, why travel? Stay home and watch pr0 n.

  12. #18183
    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    Regardless of where you do this, MX, Asia, etc. One can only prepare so much, but I never go into a trip like this expecting intellectual conversations, witty banter, etc.

    You can hardly expect that from well educated non-working girls. It'd be a shock if a hooker working in a 3rd world brothel could be stimulating anything besides emptying my nuts.
    Charlie Sheen famously said about hookers, "I don't pay them to stay. I pay them because they leave. " There's wisdom there. The problem with bringing a bar girl as a travel companion is that you have to talk to them. Yes they're real people blah blah blah. But come on. I can probably tell you half their life story right here. Grew up with poor options in a less than ideal city. Some event caused a need for quick cash. Child, sick mom, something. Started working at HK. The problem is once you get past the first 2 hours of conversation and sex, you've got days and days to kill with them.

    My bet is this poster would find himself willing to pay money just to make her go away. Just like Charlie Sheen.

  13. #18182
    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]
    This is an anonymous forum so I don't feel the need to be particularly polite here. I'm just going to call it as I see it.

    I would pay money to see how your life is set up. Like how your decisions have laddered up to a life construct.

    Even considering taking a bar girl on such an elaborate international trip shows such a poor level of judgment and anticipation of bad consequences that I can't quite wrap my head around what you think is going to happen here.

    Do you think she's just going to be a well behaved travel companion? This is a girl who gets paid to have sex with strangers in a border city.

    And you'd go to another world class mongering destination with a bar girl from another country in tow? I can't even start to pick this apart. The message would be too long.

    Dude. No. Stop.
    LOL. I actually generally agree with you but I think it's just one of those "to each his own" sort of things. Like you, I don't get the thought process behind wanting to take one of these chicas, chicas who a lot of times these dudes barely even know, on a vacation like that or even on a day trip for that matter. But keep in mind that people from all walks of life, across all levels of social status, can have poor judgment and make bad decisions. PARTICULARLY MEN WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT PUSSY. I think what I've just written in caps there is the crux of this situation, LOL. As well as similar situations I've read about on these boards where mongers seem bent on dragging these chicas along with them as travel companions.

    With all that said, there are a few chicas I've gotten to know over the years (mostly a bit older. I. e. , in their 30's) who I think I could trust to be "well behaved" as a travel companion. Some of the girls I know are so relaxed and chill that I can't imagine they'd be a problem. But I'd still never in a million years consider taking them on any sort of vacation outside of Tijuana. That strikes me as absurd on multiple levels. But again, to each his own. How the next man chooses to spend his time and $$$ with another chica doesn't affect or bother me.

  14. #18181

    Public post

    Quote Originally Posted by Phazze93  [View Original Post]
    Little harsh. LOL but to each their own. Trial & error as someone else said earlier. Had to start somewhere.
    People are like assholes they are many and varied and most of the time full of shit. Take any comment on these forums with a grain of salt. All mongers have an opinion LOL.

  15. #18180
    Quote Originally Posted by Hadez  [View Original Post]
    Sounds like overall good trip.
    Probably best thing about meeting these hotties in the club is we do not spend enough time together to find out each others traits we dislike.
    Agreed that rosarito is probably only good for testing grounds. IMO.

    If I had a choice, I'm spending my money to go to Tulum or somewhere a little nicer. But at the same time, I'm not taking a Chica I just met to somewhere nicer where the $$ adds up much faster. Unless I have a verified good connection with her.

    For me personally, the spending in Rosarito was predictably lower and more controlled than a place like Tulum or Cabo. And the proximity to Tijuana and the border was nice.

    Last thing I need is to take a chica I don't know well enough to Tulum & make a pit stop at the local LV store and have a $10 k hole in my wallet LOL.

    The nicest store between Rosarito and Tijuana I've seen so far is sephora. Which on that note is quite shit.

    That store had nothing in stock and everything was more expensive than the US sephoras oddly enough.

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