Hong Kong Club Reports

[Baxter Slade]

Hey guys!

It looks like there's a new Deja Vu gentleman's club opening this week in Tijuana. Have you guys heard about this? Spoke to a taxi driver about it & was told it's going to be the largest club in Tijuana. Someone commented it's over 100,000 sqft of space with 100 VIP rooms & will be open 24/7. We were thinking if this club would attract all the girls from HK. Looking forward to checking out Deja Vu. Anyone have more info?

Sorry for posting here HK but for now it appears HK is a little nervous about this new club. HK security has even accused some regular customers of being recruiters for this new club. They have advertised having 300 dancers. Where are they going to get them all? They probably are doing some recruiting in the zona. How will this affect pricing? It will be interesting to see how this thing pans out.

Not only will this be the biggest Tijuana strip club its being billed as the worlds largest. Bigger than Saphire in vegas, if any of you guys ever checked that place out. The grand opening was set for this Thursday, but rumor has it that Friday is the day.

[SaltShaker]

Go check it out and report back. This new club would need its own thread title or put it under "General Reports" this thread is for Hong Kong club. I sure you know that.

Hey guys!

It looks like there's a new Deja Vu gentleman's club opening this week in Tijuana. Have you guys heard about this? Spoke to a taxi driver about it & was told it's going to be the largest club in Tijuana. Someone commented it's over 100,000 sqft of space with 100 VIP rooms & will be open 24/7. We were thinking if this club would attract all the girls from HK. Looking forward to checking out Deja Vu. Anyone have more info?

[Mr Russell]

Hey guys!

It looks like there's a new Deja Vu gentleman's club opening this week in Tijuana. Have you guys heard about this? Spoke to a taxi driver about it & was told it's going to be the largest club in Tijuana. Someone commented it's over 100,000 sqft of space with 100 VIP rooms & will be open 24/7. We were thinking if this club would attract all the girls from HK. Looking forward to checking out Deja Vu. Anyone have more info?

[SaltShaker]

Thanks. Sounds like good old fashion gamble Mexican style!

you are very close; a monthly stipend equivalent of 12 arribas at average HK rate. She rents an apartment, buy food, pays utilities, clothes, shoes shopping with that money. He pays for dinners out, clubbing, partying, vacations etc.

The guy spend average 4 nights a week in her apartment a week or 16 nights a month, fucking her at least 2 a night, may be a few in the day time when he's kinky and horny. So he gets at least 32 arribas a month from her for the price of 12. She's exclusive to him, no more working in HK or any bar. She's 21, a good-looking spinner with a pretty face, nice banging spinner body, nice, quiet, gentle like a mouse. She understand the beastly nature of men, and allows him to fuck around with any bar girls he wants..

[Captain Solo]

I don't want to be too specific with the figure so I won't [CodeWord140] the guy off. But you are getting very close; a monthly stipend equivalent of 12 arribas at average HK rate. She rents an apartment, buy food, pays utilities, clothes, shoes shopping with that money. He pays for dinners out, clubbing, partying, vacations etc.

The guy spend average 4 nights a week in her apartment a week or 16 nights a month, fucking her tiny sexy body at least 2 a night, may be a few in the day time when he's kinky and horny. So he gets at least 32 arribas a month from her for the price of 12. She's exclusive to him, no more working in HK or any bar. She's 21, a good-looking spinner with a pretty face, nice banging spinner body, nice, quiet, gentle like a mouse. She understand the beastly nature of men, and allows him to fuck around with any bar girls he wants. The guy got a very good deal, huh?

She was sitting in front of me across the small bar table, but she looked scared, would not look at or talk to me or anyone. She was most likely afraid she might [CodeWord140] him off. But her neighbor and best friend, a 18 YO blonde, light skin, pretty face, unattached, is far more relaxed, warm, fun, smiling, lively, cute. She's about 5'4 100 lbs, looking like an exact copy of a young Kim Basinger with light skin and full sexy lips in red, but look far younger, happier and more fun. So naturally El Capitan had to sit close next to her, chatting face to face in both English and Spanish. Her family is mixed Sinaloa and Mazatlan, so we already talked about a trip to Mazatlan, Guadalajara, Mazanillo.

My wingman fell in love with this pretty Sinaloa blonde after 1 meeting in HK. I found her under the staircase and introduced him to her. He was quickly smitten by her pretty face and nice, sexy spinner body. He was under medication but took her up to hotel Cascada anyway and could not even come up with an erection that night. Damn. Anyway he fell in love with her. 2 weeks later he flew down to meet her at her home in LOS Mochis, Sinaloa, knowing this little town is El Chapo's home town, where he was hiding and caught last time. This guy is normally very prudent but he would do anything, including risking his own ass, for a pretty pussy.

I was afraid she would stand him up, her novio loco might stick a knife in his groin and twist, or narcos would empty a whole AK-47 clip in his chest, but he hung out in the hotel, went out to eat, eventually met her in the hotel, but she withheld sex. Shit! I suggested he insist on visiting her alleged parents and sisters with children at her home, but she declined. He caught her texting some guy a lot with 'te amo." A pretty girl like her is sure to have plenty of guy chasing her ass, potentially many narcos in Las Mochis who can get very mad with their knives and AK-47's.

But nothing bad happened in LOS Mochis. He took her to a few vacations and she now became very attached to him.

So don't let the sarcastic losers steer you into dating and spending big money wining, dining obese, flabby, ugly, smelly, rude, stupid, demanding old women. Aim at the pretty young girls who are far more fun, nice, sweet and sexy, who are delighted with every little things you give them.

Is that 12 x $80.00? Is that 32 x $80.00? 30 minute or 1 hour arribas. Does the data include the hotel expense? Curious minds want to know for future reference. Or pesos breakdown.

[Captain Solo]

I know what you mean about adolescent crushes; I've got a dozen of them. Hehe.

Ivanna, the tall slinky girl with curly blonde hair, with her big slutty smile and pearly white teeth reminds me of a college sweetheart whom I should have been in love with. I really fucked up my love life and now trying to find satisfaction and love only seedy places like HK bar, Coahuila alley and the filthy alleys of China, Thailand, Manila, Vietnam!

You ever watch Jack Nicholson and Art Garfunkel in 'Carnal knowledge?" it's a must watch for guys who want to succeed in seducing girls. But later in life, the master seducer could only find sexual satisfaction with the programmed robots with big wet pussies.

BTW, what can you do for 5,6 hours straight in a hotel room with the same girl? I would rather go back down to HK to flirt and grope other hotties.

Yes I spent both Friday and Saturday (returned to LA early this morning) in HK and your right as I too saw many new young faces. I found a new fresh early 20's from Monterey that I kept to myself 4 to 5 hours both Friday and Saturday and ravished her young fresh body and smile in my Cascadas room both nights. I am not a kiss and tell but rates in the top 5 for me in the past 10 years.

Other may just pass her by but she was spot on to a high school girl that I had a crush on in high school, with a great smile to boost, just a great time with a loving and fun girl. God bless Tijuana Zone Norte, now just to have those damn HK waiters leave you alone for anything over about 2 minutes. Urrrrrrrrrrr sometimes the waiters are really aggressive and sometimes there just OK.

TTM.

[Rebel24]

I was here yesterday and am staying today Monday and Tuesday, anybody in town want to meet up?

[SaltShaker]

He gives her a monthly stipend the equivalence of 12 arribas, but he's with her 4 nights a week, so potentially he gets 32 arribas or more from her every month for that money.

Is that 12 x $80.00? Is that 32 x $80.00? 30 minute or 1 hour arribas. Does the data include the hotel expense? Curious minds want to know for future reference. Or pesos breakdown.

[The Tall Man]

Was in HK Saturday night. The place was packed. There were a lot of new young, beautiful girls I've never seen before.

Yes I spent both Friday and Saturday (returned to LA early this morning) in HK and your right as I too saw many new young faces. I found a new fresh early 20's from Monterey that I kept to myself 4 to 5 hours both Friday and Saturday and ravished her young fresh body and smile in my Cascadas room both nights. I am not a kiss and tell but rates in the top 5 for me in the past 10 years.

Other may just pass her by but she was spot on to a high school girl that I had a crush on in high school, with a great smile to boost, just a great time with a loving and fun girl. God bless Tijuana Zone Norte, now just to have those damn HK waiters leave you alone for anything over about 2 minutes. Urrrrrrrrrrr sometimes the waiters are really aggressive and sometimes there just OK.

TTM.

[Captain Solo]

Was in HK Saturday night. The place was packed. There were a lot of new young, beautiful girls I've never seen before.

Sasha was drinking with a couple guys on the balcony when a mesero dropped and empty beer bottle down the first floor. It shattered out in a wide area around the main stage. Lucky nobody got hit. Sasha was waiting to everyone from the balcony. She makes a lot of ficha money among all HK girls.

I sat down with a wingman, who went away for a few months, with his friends. He's hooked on a young blond spinner in Sinaloa. She's allegedly studying nursing and only work the bars a few days every month. He's flying down to spend a few days with her. RT Volaris airfare from Tijuana to Sinaloa is only $150.

One of the guys in his 60's, divorced with grown children, has been living with a pretty spinner in Tijuana. She used to but no longer works in HK. He gives her a monthly stipend the equivalence of 12 arribas, but he's with her 4 nights a week, so potentially he gets 32 arribas or more from her every month for that money. Her friend is even younger and prettier. They are not bar girls, just civilians who like to party every week. Naturally El Capitan was teaching her English while learning Spanish from her. She's very pretty with a tight spinner body, nice perky boobs and long, sexy legs, looking very nice and clean in her party dress. Got her number for future relationship.

Everything is possible in Tijuana. Don't let the sarcastic losers discourage you!

[ScatManDoo]

We have a new king of the hill. Congrats!

[WombatEd2]

How can a 16 X 1 rate be a good rate for Hong Kong Bar if no-one ever exchanges dollars for pesos there?

Actually, Hong Kong Bar WILL sell you pesos for dollars. At sixteen to one. I checked, last Wednesday. We both know that only a newbie would do this, but the original question was from an apparent newbie.

And so, I reiterate the answer I offered, to that newbie: "16 x 1 is a great rate, for the owners of HK Club! (For you, not so much.)".

[Monkey7212]

Not going to do an extensive post like last time. Able to rearrange work schedule again to do a Monday late PM (after work) - Thursday early AM trip to Tijuana, so 4 days /3 nights.

This time around I only spent a total of $593 US which included everything - transportation from LA, housing, food, misc supplies, and five paid sessions with 4 Hong Kong bar girls (BGs) + 1 street girl (SG) and lots of Off-The-Clock time with a lady I connected well with on my previous trip.

Why so much cheaper this time around (last trip spanning same length was around $1500)? Several reasons:

(1) Weekdays are generally cheaper in every facet - you can negotiate lower rates with all the ladies. Honestly don't feel the selection was any worse on the weekdays vs. My last extended weekend trip (Thursday. Sunday). Everyone I was with was at least a solid 8+, the lady I saw on Monday evening was a solid 9+ and was one of THE most attractive Latinas I had ever seen IMO. Keep in mind I'm a younger dude who is surrounded by / has dated Latinas here in California, so I'm definitely pretty picky.

Housing is for sure cheaper too during the weekdays. With the HK VIP card you actually get 20% off hotel stays every day in Hotel Cascadas or Hotel Rizo de Oro (where I stay), but it becomes 80% off on Monday and Tuesdays. Dirt cheap.

(2) SGs are way cheaper than BGs. Takes more effort to find them and I feel Spanish-speaking ability is more essential, but standard rate with them is around 300-500 pesos total for a 20-30 minute session, which is like $16-$27 US. A few of them are really attractive.

(3) Again, using pesos for the majority of the transactions saves a ton of money. The clubs use an exchange rate of 16 pesos: 1 US dollar and some places / ladies use a rate even lower than that, and since the real exchange rate is around 18.75, the savings add up.

At Tijuana - on this recent trip, HK BGs I've been with include Damariz, Bianca, Enny, and Chiryl / Cheryl (not sure about this last one). Damariz is the lady I referred to in (1), super hot IMO. Her performance was pretty non-GFE, but I knew that going in after talking about my expectations with her and I still had a solid time. She's from Tijuana, aspires to be a nurse I think, and is there most days except for Sunday (she said). Bianca was also great, more of an 8 in looks but really great performance. Enny very good. Chiryl / Cheryl is really attractive, but her service was pretty sub-par to be honest. She made like no noise during the session, really off-putting / can't recommend her.

[BlueJohn]

And now with the scam that the meseros are running where they claim a bucket is mandatory to take a chicas upstairs, the ficha sales have increased even further.

I don't understand this. I saw lots of couples going arriba without being escorted and timed by a waiter and without a bucket of beer. Seems like it is indeed a scam, but the time it happened during my most recent visit the waiter insisted that it was mandatory and gave me a lot of grief. Also it does not appear to be a requirement at any other clubs.

On my most recent visit, a BG was anxious to go back to the club after the deed was done. No bucket required and I thought she was anxious because it was our first time together. (She was also somewhat mechanical.) That same day I took a girl that I had repeated with several times and is one of my ATFs arriba. After the deed was done, she used to hang out in the room and we would take a little nap together, which was very nice and one of the major reasons for booking the room. This time she was watching the clock and wanted to go back to the club when our agreed time was up. I know that she was not looking to move to the next customer, because we hung out together and had some appetizers. I tip her well when she stays "overtime," and knows she would have made more money if she had stayed, so I am guessing that the club is putting pressure on the girls to generate more revenue for the club.

HK was my favorite club. Going back 8/14 to see if I can track down that ATFs. OTOH if this BS keeps up, it is easy enough to go a hundred meters in any direction for a better deal. I want to tell the waiters that I know it is BS and "Homie don't play that."

Is this a new HK policy or BS propagated by the waiters?

[BlueJohn]

Looking for raw data that is current. There is allot of blah blah blah (noise) based on history and speculation. Looking for some real world balance that is current. Will update this data as my survey expands with other chicas. This data is current as of this week. She said, Some girls make more some less. She averages $1,000 to $1,500 dollars per week or 14 day period or $24,000 to $36,000 per year. One (1) week or five (5) days she is out due to menstrual cycle. One (1) week or five (5) days she is out to recharge from the drinking, smoking, and mental fatigue of the business. She does not dance on the big stage, does not walk around asking for dollars, does not allow heavy duty groping from amigos / gringos and does not entertain in the private VIP sessions (second level glass walled rooms). She said most of the time is spent standing, side to side dancing on the small stages and bar counters, mesero introductions, and approached opportunities. She said that she has gone outside to La Mansion. They were older guys. She speaks Spanish and pretty fair English..

A 20-year-old BG who speaks a modest amount of English told me something similar regarding her income. (I speak beginner-level Spanish.) Met her about two months ago. Not exactly my type physically and until she has a few drinks in her, rather conservative regarding contact in the club, so I did not think I would keep her for long. She turned out to have a fantastic personality and is one of the prettier girls in the club. I have since repeated with her several times and not only is she lots of fun in bed, but she is very tidy, and very conscious about using protection at all times. (I would never risk BB.).

She said makes about $4 K / month when she is working and owns a house in her home town of Guadalajara. She complained that her twin sister has several young children, no job, and no man. She helps to support her sister and her mother who also does not work and lives in her house. She praises her mother for her good character. She has no tattoos, because her mother would object as an example of her mother's influence, no boyfriend or husband, and no children. She is a sexy little thing that smokes and does like to drink beer and tequila shots. So much so that I worry that her liver is not going to last much longer.

She has an ex boyfriend that hangs out at the club and has been quite a pest, going so far as to join us in our booth uninvited. (Short hair, darker than average complexion, stubble, late 20's, about 6' 2", lean, tattoos on his neck and arms.) OTOH, she is pretty good at backing him or the staff down. She has actually been protective of me by not letting the waiters take advantage. (Don't misunderstand. The waiters have taken advantage at times and she did not back them down, which I assume is because her first obligation is to the club. And she has told me that there are some things that she cannot object to, so I do my best to be fair, but not taken advantage of).

Told her I was coming back to Tijuana in a few weeks and she said she would probably be in Guadalajara then, because she has problems. Don't know if that means that she needs to get away from the ex or address issues with the family. Don't know if her family knows of her profession, but I am pretty sure that they do because of some other remarks that she has made.

Hope this helps your survey. Exactly what are you trying to accomplish with your survey? Trying to figure out the average income of the BGs? How much actual time they spend in the club and how much time away?