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[Doctor_Skank]

Hello Folks,

I am planning a trip to Moscow in late January to Moscow. I am form the US form the New York area. Any guys know the most economical route to get to Moscow. So far I have looked at British Airways. Cost is $816 round trip. Any suggetsions??

Delta/Aeroflot operate together as part of "SkyTeam". They should run you about $650 round trip non-stop.

[El Cubanito]

Hello Folks,

I am planning a trip to Moscow in late January to Moscow. I am form the US form the New York area. Any guys know the most economical route to get to Moscow. So far I have looked at British Airways. Cost is $816 round trip. Any suggetsions??

[SlutLover]

Dear Helena,

Prices are reasonable (Long Island 0.5l [sic] 230 RUR, Staryi Mel'nik 0.5l 90 RUR). Real McCoy's (Nastoyashchii MakKoi) is crowded (and noisy) on Thursday-Saturday and has both locals and expats, of various ages but mostly around 25-30 at a guess. It attracts both students and people that work (more of the second category, though), and face control is liberal although I have heard that they may have a policy of not admitting expat women (in fact, a friend of mine tried to go there with 3 Spanish girls and was denied). I have never noticed any pro girls at McCoy's. The food is good, and as the Exile writes, a 210 RUR decent-sized spaghetti carbonara at 5 am is a good deal in Moscow. I do not remember the music very well except that after 12, it was very danceable and to my taste, which of course may not be a very useful statement to you.

Now for my nick: I do not think that the question of whether or not someone likes sluts, i.e. promiscuous and therefore experienced girls who nevertheless do not engage in sex for direct monetary rewards, is highly correlated to his level of intelligence. In fact, I think that taste and intelligence are separate matters altogether, and while some, not including me, may argue that it was tasteless of Bill Clinton to have his dick sucked by an average-looking intern right in the Oval Office, few would question his intelligence merely based on his sexual preferences (whether it was stupid to get caught is, again, another question).

For good or worse, I believe that in Britain, more so than in Russia, degrees from certain universities imply a certain type of socialisation which may or may not be to the taste of the observer. Some may hate Oxbridge guys, some may like them. Generally speaking though, it is a significant characteristic, since the types of people you may encounter in an Oxford college and on the Clapham omnibus differ not only in *average* level of intelligence but also in behaviour (and often, even in accent). I do not wish to sound Russophobic (in fact, I love Russia), but sadly, it is not a secret that places, exams and diplomas at Russian universities (including good ones such as MGU or MGIMO) are for sale or susceptible to blat, much much more so than at Oxford for all that I can tell.

On the other hand, some foreigners are surprised by the pride some Muscovites take in their origin (as opposed to the "priezzhie") since in their countries, place of origin is a secondary characteristic at best and does not to the same extent carry connotations of sophistication or kolkhoz. Also, wealth is displayed much more ostentatiously in Moscow than any other place I know. These are, indeed, cultural differences, although I am sometimes tempted to believe that an Oxford degree can involve more serious work than the work done by some of these New Russians in order to buy their Hummer, Rolex and Rublevka house. We both know that privatisation has gone seriously wrong in this country.

In short, I don't think I have been guilty of excessive flaunting, although of course my description of myself was understandably not meant to shed a bad light on myself. I am not in the "mea culpa, mea maxima culpa" business.

Best regards.

[Helena Moscow]

Answering your question, people on this forum go to Dyagilev, Pushkin cafe, Night Flight, Oh la la, Chesterfield, Garage and all possible other clubs. Depends on taste. Some like pafus some not. What is so interesting about McCoy? I am a Muscowite, but foreigners always know Moscow better than locals .

Muscovite,

I know quite a few Moscow night clubs. You have not answered my question, either, because I asked Dr. Skank what clubs he goes to. As you may have noticed, the subject is "23-26.11.06 Mockba".

McCoy is a great place with a good atmosphere.

PS: If your last sentence has any purpose other than provocation, please explain.[/QUOTE]


Dear Slutlover, there was no any provocation in my question about the club. To tell you the truth I hoped for a more detailed answer. Great place and good atmosphere is not information, it's your attitude. But what sort of place is it: expensive or cheap, croudy or empty, quiet or noisy, what style of music they play, what sort of people go there - locals or expats, young or old, in jeans or in suits, are there girls in this club - pro or non-pro, students or office-stuff? If there are pros - how much do they charge and so on. Is entrance free or yo must pay to enter? How much is the entrance fee? Is there a restaurant there? What food do they cook? Did you try any? Are portions large or small? I never was there and I’m not a night-life expert, but sometimes my clients ask me where to go, so it would be nice if I could help them a bit.
As for your education there’s nothing about envy from my side. I have a very good education myself, as well as almost all of my friends and everybody in my family. In Russia education is a part of our upbringing, it’s taken for granted, because everybody has it. At your age many people in this country already have doctor’s degree in science, and everybody keeps quiet. We all know that University diploma as a paper doesn’t quarantee any professional skills or personal qualities, and that the fact of studies doesn’t mean that you really learned something. We consider experience and personal impression more important than University degree. It’s more important here who you are and what you do than what papers you have. So when someone screams about diploma or connections without asking, most of Russians will just think that this person has bad manners and tries to look more important than he really is. May be in your country it’s opposite, then we deal with misunderstanding because of cultural difference. I don’t have anything personal against you, I never met you, may be you are a brilliant guy, who knows. But I see a huge contradiction between your nick on this forum, which doesn’t sound very intelligent (or “civilized” if you prefer this word) and your pride of being educated. This contradiction provoked my how you call it “aggression”.
“Finally, one wonders: what are you getting out of this? Are you not wasting your time?” – I don’t get anything special, just expressed my opinion and asked questions. I am a member of this forum as well as you, even if you don’t like it. I’m not wasting my time. Being on this forum helps my work. Can you imagine?

[SlutLover]

Answering your question, people on this forum go to Dyagilev, Pushkin cafe, Night Flight, Oh la la, Chesterfield, Garage and all possible other clubs. Depends on taste. Some like pafus some not. What is so interesting about McCoy? I am a Muscowite, but foreigners always know Moscow better than locals .[/QUOTE]Muscovite,

I know quite a few Moscow night clubs. You have not answered my question, either, because I asked Dr. Skank what clubs he goes to. As you may have noticed, the subject is "23-26.11.06 Mockba".

McCoy is a great place with a good atmosphere.

PS: If your last sentence has any purpose other than provocation, please explain.

[SlutLover]

Dear Helena,

I do not think that Dr. Skank chooses his drinking companions according to their skills in bed. He may well wish to know if the person potentially accompanying him has a basic level of education (which is not at all guaranteed), or, for that matter, if he or she is civilised enough not to resort to unprovoked, apparently envy-fuelled aggression. Finally, one wonders: what are you getting out of this? Are you not wasting your time?

Regards.

[Buzz00]

Dear Slutlover, could you, please, explain us how your Oxbridge diploma helps you in bed? Is it more helpful in Azov, Crimea, Moscow or your own country? Do you know any sexual games where this device can be used? .

Touche Helena

[Helena Moscow]

I'm a 29-year old German guy, Oxbridge-educated, fluent in Russian, here in Moscow until the end of the year (see my reports on the Sea of Azov and the Crimea for credibility). What places do you go to? The Real McCoy is still my favourite, although you may like more pafus?

Dear Slutlover, could you, please, explain us how your Oxbridge diploma helps you in bed? Is it more helpful in Azov, Crimea, Moscow or your own country? Do you know any sexual games where this device can be used?

Answering your question, people on this forum go to Dyagilev, Pushkin cafe, Night Flight, Oh la la, Chesterfield, Garage and all possible other clubs. Depends on taste. Some like pafus some not. What is so interesting about McCoy? I am a Muscowite, but foreigners always know Moscow better than locals .

[SlutLover]

I'm a 29-year old German guy, Oxbridge-educated, fluent in Russian, here in Moscow until the end of the year (see my reports on the Sea of Azov and the Crimea for credibility). What places do you go to? The Real McCoy is still my favourite, although you may like more pafus?

[Doctor_Skank]

Anybody going to be in Moscow 23-26.11.06 and interested in going to some nightclubs/discos?

My plans haven't finalized, but am attempting to keep Friday and Saturday night slots open for a club trawl...

[Norm Paska]

Hello,

Can someone please recommend some brothels or bordello in Moscow? Preferably something upscale and nice. I am shcedule for business trip in Dec. , but should not bring any girls back to my hotel. Simply I do not want my business associates to see me with them. Thus I want to be discreet. Thank you very much.

Borat

[Coding Wizard]

I'm thinking of visiting Moscow and St Petersburg next year, and I would like a tour guide to provide (ahem) full service. My preference runs to blondes with long hair and blue eyes and in their 20's, preferably student semi-pros.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

[Ricardo Cabro]

I'll be in St Petersburg Saturday 30 September for a couple of nights. If anyone else is in town and would like a beer or two and some hunting please reply to this thread (haven't paid a sub so can't recieve pm's)

Cheers,

Ricardo

[Helena Moscow]

If i have some money i will take a brothel in Switzerland or if you have other plans, i saw this summer one ex-Marines manager in an apartment agency and beautiful collegue not as me in the army.

Dear Vince, when you get your brothel, call me to manage, I have experience =)))))))))))))))))

[Dark Vadeur]

Having been married until recently I have never been yet to Eastern Europe. I will write first hand experiences when I will return from these countries. I am looking for reliable informations and saw your posts here and on other forums. You wrote many informations about Belarus, Bosnia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Poland, Russia, Slovakia, Ukraine, Turkey.

But judging by your caracteristic frenglish language and notation; I think you have only been to Russia (2 times), Ukraine (2 times), Poland (1 time) and Czech Republic (1 time). Only 6 real experiences out of 221 reports. Am I wrong ?

I have also been in the french navy for one year for my military service. I have known guys working in the navy as cook, hairdresser, office worker and who have never been on a military boat. But outside at the local bar they were pretenting they just came out of a 3 months mission in Foch aircraft carrier. They wanted to impress girls but it was part of the game.

You have been caught several times stealing other's texts / photos and posting them on your own credit. You present yourself as a military man but you only work as accountant in the navy. Do you want to impress your fellow punters ?