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05-12-17 11:07 #21110
Posts: 1316Originally Posted by SamSuffit [View Original Post]
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05-12-17 01:56 #21109
Posts: 72The Economics of SA game
Originally Posted by Phoque [View Original Post]
Before we get into the details, the most fundamental questions you need to ask yourself are:
1. How often do I want to shag a new non-pro regular girl? Once a month / week / day?
2. How many times have I been let down by WG's with their tantrums, conveyor belt service, attitude, extra's etc?
3. How many times have I been truly satisfied with a WG?
4. How many time have I been short changed when the WG agreed to stay all night but left in an hour or two?
5. How often have I experienced a proper all nighter with a WG. Meaning, a few rounds of passionate and uninhibited sex, then falling asleep in each others arms and waking up again to find the WG waking you with a BBBJ and then a round or two or passionate morning sex?
6. How often did I have an emotional or any other connection with the WG?
7. Do I really enjoy shagging a star fish?
8. Do I really enjoy mechanical and meaningless sex?
9. Where can I find 18/19 year old non-pros?
10. How easy is it to find them?
Once you've answered all these questions and had a chance to reflect upon. You'll actually start to understand the cost benefit analysis here and be able to figure if SA is for you.
Now lets keep it objective and look at the true cost of having fun on SA (from my experience in various countries).
Cost to connect / chat:
1. Cost of Premium SA Membership: 75 $ per month approx. Discounts on quarterly, annually etc.
2. Cost of time you need to invest: This you know best. It does take time to hone your skills, create and curate message templates that work and guarantee a response. Optionally, you can also hire a virtual assistant is there if you want to drill SB's on an industrial scale. Thats about 400 $ a month for 160 hours of someone dedicatedly scouting sugar babies for you. Thats basically like AmazonFresh for finding Sugarbabies LOL. Fresh meat delivered to your door.
= Minimum $75.00 per month.
Meet up cost:
1. Nice hotel (important to make an impression) and a good room with a separate lounge or chilling / drinking (can be a bit awkward if you room starts and ends with a bed): This can vary but having contacts or regularly staying at hotels helps getting upgrades. Or look at deal on premium rooms online especially on Saturdays in DXB and Sundays elsewhere when hotels are quiet. Or use your rewards card or whatever. So lets call this about 200 $ per night as a ballpark.
2. UberLux / Black to pick her (not necessary but it makes an impression and you look more credible etc): 20-30 $ average.
3. Drink at the bar (only if you can't get her to come to your room directly): Depends on you but lets say 2 drinks each about 50 $. YMMV here.
4. Dinner (only if you must for a first meet and only if she's a 9 or a 10 in real life not with your beer glasses): Best to avoid.
5. Drinks upstairs: Best to buy you stock from duty free so you get a kosher deal there. If you buy at the hotel this can shoot up depending on you / the lady. But lets keep this optional and at 100 $ for a bottle of Champagne / wine.
= Approx $250 (just for your room and a couple drinks each) and more if you send a car to pick her up, dinner, drinks etc.
Allowance (per meet):
This can vary depending on your style / budget / preferences. Don't let the high allowance expectations let you down. Basically you tell the SB that you want to meet her 1-2 times a week, and that makes it 8-10 meets a month (theoretically). So whatever the expectation just divide that by number of meets. Thus if an SB is expecting a moderate 3 K USD allowance a month the 3000/8 or 10 = 300-400 / per meet! Simple. And you can always pay her more if she is good!
Duration is never discussed and is not a part of the equation here. Be a gent, treat her well and respect her boundaries she will stay as long as you want (if she is free ofcourse). But generally its overnights or even weekends. In my experience most of the times these girls don't even ask for $ - remember they are not WG and don't want to feel like one.
= Approx minimum: 300 $ per meet.
So there you have it.
Young, fresh and juicy pussy, as Alex puts it! For approx 500 $ and that too for all night or even a weekend. No extra charges, no tantrums on services, no more feeling short changed. No more star fish. It's a bloody bargain!
And if you can get away with setting off your hotel costs as work expenses, even better. That could reduce the damages to as low as $400.
$400/ weekend of 60 hours (if you manage to make her stay with you. Which is possible) is about $7 an hour OR.
$400/ night of 12 hours of pure passionate GFE is about 30 $ per hour.
IT DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER!
If this doesn't make sense, nothing ever will TBH. The choice of simmering in mediocrity of WG's or having real fun on SA is entirely yours.
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05-12-17 00:31 #21108
Posts: 72Nailed it!
Originally Posted by Aaragon1977 [View Original Post]
Dress nice, shower, shave, good deodorant, after shave, manicured nails, trimmed hair etc. This is all basic hygiene 101. In short, be the best version of yourself.
Expensive watch (if you can) or even a first copy (SB's are not horologists LOL). I gifted an Geordie airhead a first-copy ladies datejust (LOL) in exchange for a weekend of Dyson grade sucking and 300 quid cash.
Originally Posted by Aaragon1977 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Aaragon1977 [View Original Post]
Or you can also try to get her to your room directly. Just say sorry but there's some colleagues at the bar downstairs why not lets chill somewhere private and exclusive. Ahem. My suite and give hert the room number. This has worked for me most of the time.
Originally Posted by Aaragon1977 [View Original Post]
But yes, do carry a stack of cash, peel off for tips to the waiter and make sure to flash it. Tease her but don't pay her for nothing! This worked for me every frigging time. I usually carry 2 x 1000 Franks + 3-4 x 500 Euros + a few 50's. Which are just to flash not for use LOL. Few of them even pointed out why am carrying so much cash and one of them went like "wow you're carrying my 3 month pay in cash". Effin wimin notice everything! It's all an illusion that you create for banging some real hot non-pros.
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05-11-17 23:43 #21107
Posts: 72SA. The WG's and the Time it takes!
Originally Posted by WantMore [View Original Post]
Cost wise it works out cheaper in the long run with all the time needed to chat to these SB's, weeding our flakes and WGs etc. Plus ofcourse you can use the VA for other things too. Booking flights or other errands. I'd advise anyone addicted to SA to do this. Really.
The setup is quite simple:
1. Find a VA to do this on one of the online hiring portals (elance.com works or me).
2. Get him a cloud desktop so you don't have to give him your passwords etc. Plus you retain full control of the PC on which the VA works for you / uses SA. (PaperSpace. Is is really good and gives you a virtual desktop accessible through a browser and is cheap as chips).
3. Get another Sim for WhatsApp and give access for your Whatsapp (web. whatsapp.com) to your Virtual Assistant so he can chat on your behalf.
4. Give your VA the templates what work for you and see the magic happen.
5. Get back to work and spend time with friends and family. Let the VA do the legwork in arranging your squeeze for the evening.
In your case, all this may not be necessary as you're happy with the ones you have and prefer long term. But for anyone addicted to SA and / or for anyone wanting to buy back some me time from SA, it works best!
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05-11-17 19:45 #21106
Posts: 220Originally Posted by EdAdams [View Original Post]
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05-11-17 19:42 #21105
Posts: 220Originally Posted by SamSuffit [View Original Post]
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05-11-17 19:41 #21104
Posts: 220Originally Posted by AmRev2017 [View Original Post]
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05-11-17 16:15 #21103
Posts: 131Action spots during Ramadan 17'
Dear monger brothers.
Can I suggest we share information upon action spots during Ramadan.
Jules: closed.
Red square: closed.
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05-11-17 14:19 #21102
Posts: 1181Originally Posted by Phoque [View Original Post]
SA is a very narrow part of this much wider scene and will not be appropriate for all situations. I would actively discourage folks on short visits to get into SA. It takes far too long and results are patchy. It is best done with investment of some time and keeping it active over a period. If it is for one meeting, then I think you will do best to go to clubs.
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05-11-17 11:07 #21101
Posts: 530Originally Posted by EdAdams [View Original Post]
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05-11-17 09:21 #21100
Posts: 1316Originally Posted by Phoque [View Original Post]
But Mate it is pleasure, just digged my first Cabin Crew and it is awesome the passion the aura the feeling the nervousness everything was just WOW. Tx to all who made me jump into it clubs don't interest me anymore unless it is quality like billionaire or Boa or White. This is getting to be awesome stuff now but can't post online the experience was mind blowing so much and so crazy I have no words but can't write here as these are normal women who have a normal lifestyle.
Cheers,
Peace.
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05-11-17 04:09 #21099
Posts: 17DAY 5: Dubai again
Having scored the last 4 days.
Was in a mood to see more of DXB, decided to do business bay and SZR today (Marina and Jumeirah is far and a completely different day is needed).
1) being is Wednesday, ladies night at Boa.
Excellent club, free entry for men, corona at a dhs 60, classy CIS chicks around who wanted dhs 1500.
Good music, good ambience.
Headed to SZR.
2) started with Fairmont.
Cavalli has a DHS 500 cover, being alone didn't have the heart to spend that amount, if in a group buying a bottle of whiskey / vodka brings down the cost.
CIN CIN in this hotel is a good place to smoke your cigar, good babes, dhs 2000 first quote, but I am not ready to settle down hence didn't try and bargain. Having said that CIN CIN had a very good ambience. Start your evening here looking rich, cigar, giving hope to the babes, who will be free around 9 ish to entertain you in their talks.
3) Movida, did not let me in, but looked like a rich place. It operates only on wednesdays and Saturday (just 2 days I think, hence are very choosy).
4) Crowne plaza, zinc club entry was dhs 100, which I willingly paid. But at 1 am there just just a total of about 25 people, out of which about 8 WGs in their 6's.
This was the end of SZR for me.
5) headed to jules, a reasonably good place to hang out, live bank was too bad, most chicks were 4, 5 and 6.
A few chicks were 8's though.
At 2:45 am I knew I won't score here.
6) hence headed to Moscow, just 5 min before the closing song, I reached and the babes were really good here. Could not score here either due to lack of time.
Moral: you don't always need to score.
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05-11-17 03:53 #21098
Posts: 17Day 4: Abu Dhabhi
Lesson learnt from last night invest more at 49 ers.
Hence head to 49 ers, guzzled a few guiness, a cigar and found a WG at dhs 700 for FT.
Headed to hotel at 12:30 am.
However as per my last lesson, the FT lasted just 1 shot (remember that in UAE, FT =ST).
And free in an hour.
Headed to Illusions for round 2, saw a few barbie doll CIS and also a few very tall barbies and yes also fat ones.
(I guess I am scarred).
Made a few friends who showed me a african bar at howard johnson, and indian bar, god knows where.
But they sucked.
In my opinion.
No 1 place to go is 49 ers.
No 2 place to go is Illusions.
No 3 place to go is to your bed alone.
Cheers.
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05-11-17 03:46 #21097
Posts: 17Day 3: Abu Dhabhi
Started Abu Dhabi at 10 pm.
Living at Le Royal Meredien after I RTFF (brilliant recommendation, BTW).
1) went to 49 ers at Dana, dhs 80 with 2 drinks (really cheap I must say).
Not yet busy. Has a live band and a few WGs, both CIS and Asians.
The band is really awesome and does great live performances BTW.
Many beers on the tap like, Stella, Guinness, Kilkenny, strongbow, and a few other routine. Great tap.
A Brilliant place that eventually fills up by 11:30 pm. Not too high class, but the music and beers more than make up for it. Ample WGs, and enough options for everyone most were 6 and 7. Few 8's.
2) around 1 am headed to Illusions at LE Royal Meridien. No cover for me as I am a hotel guest.
A great collection of CIS chicks, but most seem to have an attitude problem. Guess the snobbish attitude come with the high quality the club is at.
Key down to a WG at around dhs 700 for FT. On the way to the room, realized someone had flicked my room key out of my back pocket at Illusions (yeah really) I don't carry and cards / wallets / etc on my Mongerthons, luckily.
Anyways the session lasted and hour only and just one game down the CIS babe developed some kind of an emergency and manipulated me into leaving the room after just 1 shot.
A mediocre experience nonetheless.
Lesson learnt today:
In UAE ST and LT is the same thing, its better to just take for ST for half price. That way you can take 2 such ST on one night without feeling cheated.
Always ID the girls even if the hotel don't ask for it. Most CIS girls in UAE, in my opinion are cheats. They somehow feel very empowered here. (never have I had this experience with the CIS girls in thailand).
In my opinion 49 ers is a smaller, non elite club, but much better than illusions.
Better beer, excellent music, cheap entry and good attitude from the WGs.
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05-11-17 03:28 #21096
Posts: 17Day 2 of 6: mixed bag Dubai
Started my evening around 10 pm.
I stayed at Business bay, which kind of raised my expectation of the kind of clubs I wanted to be in.
Target to see most in Bur dubai and Deira area.
Schedule Bur Dubai: Ratsky, York.
1) went to Ratsky. Just didn't get the heart to enter the place, the hotel, its location seemed shady and run down. Just not my kind of a joint. Never got off the Taxi.
2) head to York, again the same feeling.
Decided to abandon Bur dubai altogether, seemed too cluttered and crowded.
Wasted a lot of time in traffic jams. At almost 11:30 pm decided to skip did not try to go the RockBotton and Jockeys. Mirchi was never on my to do list anyways.
Bur Dubai completely put me off, as the crowd flocking to these places, just weren't my type.
End of Bur dubai for my trip (with the exception of Capitol hotel Czar club which I haven't tested yet (heard good thing about that place on day 5 of the trip).
Wasting no time head towards Deira.
Deira Schedule:
1) St. George hotel: looked run down and shady, so skipped it (I guess I was being too choosy, but for me mongering is an experience and sex is just a by product, not necessary the final goal).
2) went to carlton tower hotel, has an arabic club where the doorman asked dhs 200 (obviously I wasn't welcome, hence this price). Anyways didn't look like a classy place to be in. This hotel also has an India bar, went there and wasn't too busy. About 10 girls, decent looking. But this is on stage and they dance, you throw money. I don't think you could take those girls home. Was out of this hotel in 10 min flat.
3) Headed to Kubu, DHS 100 entry, but made friends with the valet who said the place is not busy. It was 12:15 pm already, so did not waste time going there.
By this time was getting frustrated at not find the right place and atmosphere. However at this stage did not want to give up an go to Premier (the easy way) as wanted to check max spots possible. I just wanted to go to Moscow hotel which I now to be very good as per my past experiences. But the explorer in me wanted to touch every possible sports as mentioned in this RTFF.
So,
4) sheraton deira, has an entry charge and I knew I didn't want to invest there as I was short on time.
5) headed to Carlton Palace Hotel, went in. Has 3 spots in the hotel. One was a bar with snooker table. (obviously I didn't want to play snooker at the bar, as much as in my hotel. Dis a round and just moved out. The other is a Lebanese live singing restauraunt. Just one woman was singing, no other eye candy. So let it pass. The third was a Syrian singing place. I am not from the arab world hence could not relate to this hotel.
6) headed to DeLMON as there seemed to be a lot of crowd outside. (just a lot of men though.
Delmon has a nightclub on the lower level manned by the Nigerian Bouncers, who actually were very nice and humble,(just have to talk nice) LET me in to have a look without cover, but the women seemed old and Africanas, which are not what I was looking. The first floor of Delmon has 3 Indian / pak singing clubs. (not my choice of mongering). Took a peek, but just moved out after a glympse which the bouncers did permit me willingly.
Now, delmon has a Syrian such bar where the women (correction girls, really brilliant lookers many 9/10) are on stage, the walk and make very small dance movements while they dance (not vigorous dancing).
I started to drool at the sight of these syrian girls. However when speaking to the manager, he said these girls don't come off stage and they are not a take home. Now these were the girls you could actually pay dhs 2000 plus. They looked so fresh. So if you want to just have some eye candy and time to kill, by drooling fro far. This in my opinion is a good place.
However, I was in a hurry to get to moscow, after my last spot on the list.
7) almost 1:15 am Broadway hotel. It has 2 joints, on the right is a bar which has belly dancing and some WGs which was again good place to chill. But not very busy.
On the left is Club- 1, which is a small OKish club, nothing fancy.
Met the manager and he showed me around both the places without a cover, just to have a look.
And BOY, this club was full of the WGs, loads of them. And pretty good I would say many were 8/10, and with a fair share of 5's also.
Here the WGs are run by Mamasans. The girls are a mix of beautiful CIS, non english speaking.
But absolute beauties. Was very easy to make a choice. The mamasans tend to be pushy, but since they work only at this club, they have a reputation to live up to. Meaning they will not cheat. Was promised 5 hrs with my girl.
Who gave a perfect GFE and very obedient as the mamasan promised.
Damages dhs 1000, and absolutely worth it.
Crop here is fresh and young.
Obviously could not go to moscow that day.
My moral: avoid Bur Dubai completely (minus capitol hotel, which I still have to tray on day 6 of the "MONGERTHON".
Deira: just do Premier (entry dhs 200), moscow, and CLUB 1.
Go to Club 1 to find a good deal. The girls are new, and they could charge a bomb and also show attitude at the Premier and Moscow.
Day 3: trip to Abu Dhabhi.
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