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  1. #26754
    Quote Originally Posted by AnonMous  [View Original Post]
    Most of the times I've never brought up when the damage would be payable i.e. upfront or afterwards and I'd say in roughly 80-90% of the cases, the girls have gone with the flow. For when things hadn't been settled beforehand, a few girls did demand it once we were back in the room or during early stages of foreplay. In such situations, I tell them to take a good look at the room they are in (mostly suites in 5* hotels) and ask if they really think that I am going to stiff or short change them. This approach always works and reassures them. I guess they realize that a guy who can spend more on a room for a night, than their damage + tip combined, is going to be as good as his word. This is Human Psychology 101, IMHO. And, I feel, this would be true for other hobbyists as well.

    Of course, there have been cases where the girl was absolutely adamant about moolah being dispensed upfront and wouldn't budge and I've gone ahead regardless. But, these were few and far between
    I agree with your points. As a general rule (based on my personal experience of course), if you're seeing the girl the first time, more often than not she will ask for payment upfront and I understand that. There are some real douchebags out there that have ripped the girls off, I have heard some really shitty stories so can understand them being leery about this. However, I totally agree with you that where you reside, how you dress, etc goes a long way in alleviating the girls concerns about getting ripped off. When a few girls recently came to my apartment, they could see branded stuff and the nice view / location and hence one told me that she knew she wouldn't be getting ripped off. So that does help. But if a girl asks for payment upfront the first time you're seeing her, I think it's OK because they have had some really shitty experiences with some punters. Once I repat a girl and some trust is developed, payment is never mentioned and she knows I'll slip her 'gift' in her bag at the end.

  2. #26753
    Quote Originally Posted by WildLaw  [View Original Post]
    Not sure how it works in Dubai yet but I ussualy hold back 10-20% cash by putting it by the bedside or table in plain visibilty and tell the WG if everything goes great they get the that plus some tip. Not saying all WGs agree to this but when they don't and I am 50-50 about how its going to go I don't go ahead with them.
    Most of the times I've never brought up when the damage would be payable i.e. upfront or afterwards and I'd say in roughly 80-90% of the cases, the girls have gone with the flow. For when things hadn't been settled beforehand, a few girls did demand it once we were back in the room or during early stages of foreplay. In such situations, I tell them to take a good look at the room they are in (mostly suites in 5* hotels) and ask if they really think that I am going to stiff or short change them. This approach always works and reassures them. I guess they realize that a guy who can spend more on a room for a night, than their damage + tip combined, is going to be as good as his word. This is Human Psychology 101, IMHO. And, I feel, this would be true for other hobbyists as well.

    Of course, there have been cases where the girl was absolutely adamant about moolah being dispensed upfront and wouldn't budge and I've gone ahead regardless. But, these were few and far between. The times that this has happened, the girls didn't disappoint and made sure that they earned their keep, but that might just have been the luck of the draw.

    With the Jules WG, the situation was such that, in the moment, it was tough for me to take a call, although there was no damage paid upfront. It can be difficult to think straight when you are horny af and the girl has already dropped her clothes and is proceeding to shave off her meow stubble. LOL. Add to this the fact that I'd been up for more more than 17-18 hours by that time, many of which had been spent traveling, and my brain was in snooze mode. I have shared my experience to highlight what can transpire in a real world situation and the lessons that be learned upon subsequent reflection, which can then be implemented to make sure that the times to follow are more pleasurable.

    In a lighter vein, maybe, some sort of a pay as you go plan can be negotiated and it might be structured like this:

    LFK/DFK - 10%.

    HJ - 10%.

    BJ - 20%.

    DATY/FIV - 20%.

    FS - 20%.

    COF/CIM - 10%.

    Other Misc. - 10%.

    What do you guys think? Take care everyone.

  3. #26752

    Palm Jumeirah hunting

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Yes, you will have an issue there. I live in Business Bay and when I take a girl from Deira, they sometimes frown when I tell them where I live and I get the "very far" response, which isn't really true but for them it is as they prefer to go to places near the place you pick them up. For BB, I add 50 to 70 AED taxi money unless I am driving and hence pick and drop them. For the area where you will be located, be prepared to add at least 100 AED for taxi money which I think is fair, but some may ask for more. Some may not even know where the Palm is.
    That's a shame. I will have to get creative, and most likely end up paying more, which doesn't make sense, I feel like most WGs live in TECOM / Business bay anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun12  [View Original Post]
    I expected the entrance to be 1000 aed as some posters have said a table is required but I was surprised when I was just charged a 100 aed entrance. I enter the club it does have some potential for sure. It is not packed per say like czar or Moscow but the quality is definitely higher.
    Very nice, thank you for the info. A couple of members have now visited Club Blu, but like you, they already had a girl. 100 aed entrance +plus 9's and 10's, Club Blu might have just moved to the top of the list of places to go when I visit.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnonMous  [View Original Post]
    Got in touch with them in the afternoon hours, more with an intention to while away time than to actually indulge. The replies from them came back fairly quickly.
    That's a disappointment. I was hoping to use Cat agency to see Daisy for a daytime quickie. Could you remember the names of the girls you inquired about via their online line-up?

    https://massagerepublic.com/female-e...hot-girls-24-7

  4. #26751
    Quote Originally Posted by AnonMous  [View Original Post]

    This session is not a reflection on Jules but on the WG and I had a couple of excellent sessions with other Viets from this place, which I will report on soon. Take care everyone.
    Agree, I punt a few times a month but have been doing it so long that have got to that shameless point to discuss every detail before handing the cash and if there is any deviation happy to call it off completley. Not sure how it works in Dubai yet but I ussualy hold back 10-20% cash by putting it by the bedside or table in plain visibilty and tell the WG if everything goes great they get the that plus some tip. Not saying all WGs agree to this but when they don't and I am 50-50 about how its going to go I don't go ahead with them.

    Your experience seems down to the WG and wouldn't be fair to reflect on Jules like you said. Could have also gone the other way around where the WG would have given you more than what you asked for. I certainly have learned a few new moves from WGs over the years purely due to this fact.

  5. #26750

    Cat Agency

    Got in touch with them in the afternoon hours, more with an intention to while away time than to actually indulge. The replies from them came back fairly quickly.

    Asked for recent pictures of the girl that I liked the most from their catalog and she appeared to be a different person altogether in the short video that they sent; clearly the photos in the catalog are heavily photoshopped. Also, the girl was clothed in the video, so asked them to share something naughtier. In the video they sent this time around, the girl was wearing lingerie and doing a slow seductive dance while covering her face with her hands. There was no way of knowing whether it was the same girl in both the videos. I had an uncanny feeling that they might be trying to pull a fast one.

    Asked about another girl, who would have been my second preference, and the results were along the same lines. Didn't confront them about this as had no interest in partaking. Unfortunately, I cannot share the names of the girls as I have since deleted the chat. Now, I know some fellow hobbysits have had good experience with them but, personally, I had a feeling that things may not be on the up and up with them. Just wanted to share my limited interaction with them. Don't read too much into it as YMMV.

  6. #26749

    I really appreciate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeKarnavic  [View Original Post]
    Excellent report and some wise tips for everyone. Wish we all follow your thought process and not think by small head all the time.
    Quote Originally Posted by PopamRaj  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the very helpful report and tips. Worth putting up on the fridge with a magnet! Haven't been out to Jules for ages. Somehow the Chinese girl invasion there just doesn't work for me. Am tempted to make a visit based on your report.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocko20  [View Original Post]
    Great reports and thanks for sharing. I agree with your lessons about tempering your expectations, WGs lying about services, hitting home your expectations during negotiations, and to not make emotional decisions you might regret later. Well stated.
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Great report and EXCELLENT advice! One should always list their lessons learned and try their utmost NOT to repeat them.
    Thank you for the positive feedback everyone. After years of staying away from the hobby, the way I conducted and felt about things this time around was a revelation to me.

  7. #26748
    Quote Originally Posted by AnonMous  [View Original Post]
    For my Dubai visit, having a session with a Russian/EE was up there on my list, but my outing at Czar wasn't upto expectations, as I've highlighted in my report on it. As others have reported before, even the best laid plans can fall by the wayside when faced with the realities on the ground. This brings me to Jules.
    Great reports and thanks for sharing. I agree with your lessons about tempering your expectations, WGs lying about services, hitting home your expectations during negotiations, and to not make emotional decisions you might regret later. Well stated.

  8. #26747

    MAkes sense BLood red

    MAke sense BLood red.

    Why do we have to spend a bomb for a 5-minute fun towards end the same amount can have a 3-course meal mongering.

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    You just need to look around. There are so many places in Dubai. You can get a hot girl for full night for 1000. Women that quote ridiculous prices are just plain stupid in my opinion because there is so much pussy in Dubai that you can just move on and look else where.

  9. #26746
    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun12  [View Original Post]
    Anyway on my way out, I struck a conversation with a 6.5-7 in terms of looks. She spoke great English, was funny and offered 1000 for 3 hours. Hell, why not? She stayed with me for 6-8 hours and service was great. I guess there is still hope for Dubai.
    You just need to look around. There are so many places in Dubai. You can get a hot girl for full night for 1000. Women that quote ridiculous prices are just plain stupid in my opinion because there is so much pussy in Dubai that you can just move on and look else where.

  10. #26745

    Recent escapades in dubai

    Hi,

    Long time lurker here. I have received excellent information on this board so I thought I would contribute. I landed in Dubai a couple of days ago and normally organize meetings with my regulars. Though this time, I thought I would explore a bit. A lot of recent posters have talked about club Blu so I decided to visit it. I went to the club on a Tuesday. I expected the entrance to be 1000 aed as some posters have said a table is required but I was surprised when I was just charged a 100 aed entrance. I enter the club it does have some potential for sure. It is not packed per say like czar or Moscow but the quality is definitely higher. Unfortunately, I did not inquire prices as I got a text from one of my regulars that she is in town. I head over to czar to meet her and to have a couple of drinks. It is packed more so than usual. Quality ranges but there is potential. I meet my regular and go to her manager to leave. She quotes me 2500 aed for 4 hours. I was baffled. This is a manager that for the last 6 months has been charging me 1200-1500 for 4-6 hours. I guess Dubai is busy and managers don't care about their regulars. I obviously chose to pass. For that kind of money, I would have had better luck at BLU. Maybe other people can post? Are rates noticeably higher? Because while quantity of wgs has increased, the quality seemed the same. Anyway on my way out, I struck a conversation with a 6.5-7 in terms of looks. She spoke great English, was funny and offered 1000 for 3 hours. Hell, why not? She stayed with me for 6-8 hours and service was great. I guess there is still hope for Dubai. Overall though, I was put off by the night as I hate inflation. If the few 8's at czar are charging that much then I am done with that place. I plan to check out blu. If prices are similar, I would rather have the luxury model over the regular.

  11. #26744
    Quote Originally Posted by AnonMous  [View Original Post]
    For my Dubai visit, having a session with a Russian/EE was up there on my list, but my outing at Czar wasn't upto expectations, as I've highlighted in my report on it. As others have reported before, even the best laid plans can fall by the wayside when faced with the realities on the ground. This brings me to Jules.
    Thanks for the very helpful report and tips. Worth putting up on the fridge with a magnet! Haven't been out to Jules for ages. Somehow the Chinese girl invasion there just doesn't work for me. Am tempted to make a visit based on your report.

  12. #26743
    Quote Originally Posted by AnonMous  [View Original Post]
    For my Dubai visit, having a session with a Russian/EE was up there on my list, but my outing at Czar wasn't upto expectations, as I've highlighted in my report on it. As others have reported before, even the best laid plans can fall by the wayside when faced with the realities on the ground. This brings me to Jules.

    Out of all the places that I went to, this turned out to be my favorite haunt. Firstly, the vibe is quite cozy, owing to the fact that the joint is much smaller in comparison to places like Premiere, Czar etc. If you sit at the 'bar side' as opposed to the 'live band side', you are in close proximity to at least a dozen girls,

    This session is not a reflection on Jules but on the WG and I had a couple of excellent sessions with other Viets from this place, which I will report on soon. Take care everyone.
    Excellent report and some wise tips for everyone. Wish we all follow your thought process and not think by small head all the time.

    Jules has it's own charm. Few years back bar area was EE territory and then there was good mix of Chinese, Kabyans, very few Viets. I was lucky to pick up a random pretty and tall Viet. She turned out to be gem and she gave good time to me and my friends for a year or so. Then she disappeared. Someone told me she was seen on MR and became expensive. She is no longer in the country.

  13. #26742
    Quote Originally Posted by AnonMous  [View Original Post]
    For my Dubai visit This brings me to Jules.

    Second lesson - In clothed settings, such as bars/clubs, which are not amenable to appreciation of WGs in their naked glory, the way FKKs/gogo bars are, there are bound to be some pitfalls/disappointments when it comes to the quality of wares, once the clothes come off, and there is scant you can do about it other than, maybe, calling off the whole thing, which can be quite frustrating. So, temper your expectations and have a strategy in mind for 'coping' with any disappointment that may come your way.

    Third lesson - When discussing services, be brazenly shameless and get down to the brass tacks so that both of you are absolutely on the same page when it comes to expectations and there is no room for doubt whatsoever.

    Fourth lesson - Never ever be swayed by emotions/hormones in the heat of the moment to perform an act that you are not comfortable with and might regret later. Going forward, I want to keep this firmly etched in my mind.
    Great report and EXCELLENT advice! One should always list their lessons learned and try their utmost NOT to repeat them.

  14. #26741

    Jules

    For my Dubai visit, having a session with a Russian/EE was up there on my list, but my outing at Czar wasn't upto expectations, as I've highlighted in my report on it. As others have reported before, even the best laid plans can fall by the wayside when faced with the realities on the ground. This brings me to Jules.

    Out of all the places that I went to, this turned out to be my favorite haunt. Firstly, the vibe is quite cozy, owing to the fact that the joint is much smaller in comparison to places like Premiere, Czar etc. If you sit at the 'bar side' as opposed to the 'live band side', you are in close proximity to at least a dozen girls, if not more, which is a treat in and of itself. Why? It all boils down to the attitude of the girls and the Viets, who are in a clear majority at Jules, have a right one, and that too in spades. When I was there, I quickly forget about my plan/desire to session with girls of a particular nationality, race etc. This place has a lively live band, decent quality food/drinks, which are fairly priced, and the girls are smiling, friendly, make good eye contact and are willing to initiate introductions. IMHO, it has the makings of a top pickup joint.

    I want to share the story of my very first session during this visit, which was with a Viet from Jules. Goes by the name Yen, 5'1" or so, 34 year old, silly cones (which is, more or less, a common theme amongst these Viets), has a couple of tattoos here and there.

    I'd rate the session as being barely average and I gained a few valuable insights/lessons from it, which I will detail now, hopefully, for the benefit of fellow ISGers.

    Let me preface by saying that this encounter was 'meh' partly on account of the fact that I was dead tired by the time I got to it and my performance was not optimal.

    First lesson - Don't (try to) do the deed when knackered, especially if you are aren't a strapping, young bloke any more.

    I had surreptitiously felt up the chick's ass in the bar, which, at the time, was quite taut to the touch. But, in the room, her clothes and ass, both, dropped to the ground real quick. LOL. The ass, it turned out, was being held up by one of those shapewear thingamajigs. Before you say that this was to be expected in a 34 year old, I'd like to point out that I have seen girls in their early 30's, with gym-fit, super tight asses, but this wasn't the case this time around.

    Second lesson - In clothed settings, such as bars/clubs, which are not amenable to appreciation of WGs in their naked glory, the way FKKs/gogo bars are, there are bound to be some pitfalls/disappointments when it comes to the quality of wares, once the clothes come off, and there is scant you can do about it other than, maybe, calling off the whole thing, which can be quite frustrating. So, temper your expectations and have a strategy in mind for 'coping' with any disappointment that may come your way.

    I had discussed LFK/DFK with the girl at the bar and she was ok with it. However, her definition of LFK/DFK turned out to be tentative pecks on the lips, which was a huge turn off.

    Third lesson - When discussing services, be brazenly shameless and get down to the brass tacks so that both of you are absolutely on the same page when it comes to expectations and there is no room for doubt whatsoever. I'd thought that merely mentioning that I was looking for LFK/DFK would be enough but clearly this wasn't the case. So, make sure that you drive home the point.

    Offloaded first load fairly quickly, owing to a combination of BJ/HJ and the fact that I hadn't had a release in a while. As the promise of LFK/DFK turned out to be a sham, had to resort to to caressing, hugging etc. to will willy into action for the second round. Got erect, but the johnson didn't want to be friends with the rubber and a couple of attempts to sheathe, while maintaining posture, bore no fruit. It was quite frustrating for me and for the lady as well, who, by now, was also primed from the FIV, DATY earlier. At this juncture, I asked if we could go bareback and, if memory serves, even offered something extra. In hindsight, this was totally uncharacteristic of me as, upto this point, even the BJs I've had have been covered, let alone asking a WG to go bareback. Ultimately, didn't go through with it as she politely made up an excuse, for which I am now thankful.

    Fourth lesson - Never ever be swayed by emotions/hormones in the heat of the moment to perform an act that you are not comfortable with and might regret later. Going forward, I want to keep this firmly etched in my mind.

    Finally, after some concerted effort, was able to finish the second round, which didn't last very long as I didn't make any special attempt to make it last. This was followed by a massage, which was ok. Damage was 1500 LT, there was no rush on her part to leave and she stayed for a good 8 hours or so. Her attitude was friendly, although the service was lacking and her back-end hardware had some miles on it. Overall, best to steer clear.

    This session is not a reflection on Jules but on the WG and I had a couple of excellent sessions with other Viets from this place, which I will report on soon. Take care everyone.

  15. #26740
    Glad you enjoyed and thanks for the mention.

    I saw Sara and Elena recently, you can see it here:

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...1#post2762358.

    Also a quick note, if the majority of your report is about MR girls, there is a dedicated thread for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammi123  [View Original Post]
    First, I want to give thanks to all the posters, and in particular to Rakesh, BloodRed, PayforIt who answered PM's as well. All of the advice was extremely helpful. I will also add some comments in the Hotels and AMP threads as well.

    --

    Thanks to the previous report from MarcoPolo, I pre-booked a duo with Sara and Emma.

    https://massagerepublic.com/female-e...location=Dubai

    (I couldn't find the link for Emma, but I think it might be in MarcoPolo's report).

    After round 2 we lay snuggled together for a while, until Emma said this time she wanted me to cum in her mouth so she could swallow. So Round 3 was very similar to round 1 except this time I finished CIM with Emma.
    Hadn't known this was in Emma's book, will surely cum back for more.

    Cheers,

    Marco.

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