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11-10-22 10:55 #26707
Posts: 1306Originally Posted by MrTouristic [View Original Post]
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11-10-22 06:59 #26706
Posts: 49Robbery at an incall
The following is an anonymous poster on a well respected social media group. We al know what really happened. We need to be so careful out there especially if you have familys. This guy is in big shit. Makes me consider my actions. Here is it.
Sorry if this post is a nonsense, in a bit of a state. My husband has just come home from a 'business meeting'. He works for a very well known company and was supposedly meeting new business contacts off LinkedIn. When he got to the arranged meeting place, which was in a very nice building in JVC, he was kidnapped by 5 African people, 3 females (whaaat) and 2 males. I can barely believe I am writing this. Apologies the details are sketchy, as he's not making too much sense right now. They demanded his bank details (he has 2 different banks), slapping and punching him for giving incorrect pin details. He wouldn't give them the pin so they then took his phone and used his face as Face ID on the banking app. We are now trying to stop the cards (several debit and credit cards) and about to go to the police station to report this. They held him hostage for over 4 hours and of course, took all of his cash money. So far we know that they have transfered 100,000 aed to a Dubai bank account, which the bank is trying to recall, and then made transactions to various other places like Ding which I think is a mobile top up. We know the name of the bank it has been transferred to and the account holders name. If anyone has any advice on anything else we should be doing it would really be appreciated.
Just to add a few more updated details, this happened at 2 pm and was in a mixed use building (offices and apartments). He therefore thought he was attending an office. He has contacted LinkedIn but at the moment they are quoting privacy laws. However we are hopeful of finding a way around this.
Thank you once again for all your support and kind words!
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11-10-22 04:13 #26705
Posts: 340Originally Posted by Londa85 [View Original Post]
One can say "I will never do incalls" but the fact is that many providers only have incalls so there's always some risk.
Very sorry to hear this happened.
Originally Posted by Anon Mous [View Original Post]
But agreed, as you said, its all about working the room and making the rounds.
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11-10-22 04:09 #26704
Posts: 1614Agree totally
Originally Posted by Cons68 [View Original Post]
Cons68, I posted this under ROD as well but the mods haven't put it through before your report went through. It deserves to be marked for ROD. Thanks.
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11-09-22 21:00 #26703
Posts: 18Originally Posted by BloodRed [View Original Post]
1) got talking to a cam girl over the course of a fe months.
2) camgirl would announce to me that she had a modelling Jon in the UAE and would be quitting (yes alarm bells did ring).
3) camgirl arrives in the UAE and moans about the cost of things. We talk daily.
4) three days in camgirl describes being sex trafficked and forced to have sex with 5-5 men a day who sodomised and physically abused her. She and her travel companion.
5) I ask how much her "debt" is. She asks for see. $2 k.
6) I wrestle with the fact is a) Could be a scam b) Could be legit (I googled what she described and found it was quite common). I transferred the money to her.
7) she is "released". I pay for her to stay at a hotel for the next few weeks.
8) I travel to the UAE with a work colleague to see if a) She existed b) She was telling the truth.
9) she leaves the UAE and describes a terrible home life, a desperate situation (illness, family illness, tragedy). I continue to send money.
10) months pass I get suspicious I hire a private investigator I discover it was all bullshit. I talk to her travel companion who tells me she's a bad girl and (yes) it's all bullshit.
I open a case in the UAE, her home country.
I uncovered the deception in Jan 2022. She would travel to Dubai that same month. She would operate out of CZAR bar and was managed by that middle aged blind woman in there. She finished working there April 2022 and returned June 2022 - leaving August 2022.
During the investigation she was receiving AED post her return to her home country. So perhaps she spun another mug along? Who know?!
Now, yes a was stupid but I did weigh this all up, and I settled on of it was true and decided paying the money as it does happen there, (particularly with girls from this region) and it seemed moral. I could not believe someone would tell a lie like that. But there you are. Be in no doubt it is fraud and it is criminal.
If this had happened I (sextrafficking) in most other countries of course you would contact the police but perhaps not in the UAE?
When I read some of the posts on here and see what WGs offer as back stories I now take a rather syndical view.
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11-09-22 19:09 #26702
Posts: 1306Originally Posted by MrTouristic [View Original Post]
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11-09-22 12:27 #26701
Posts: 18Originally Posted by Cons68 [View Original Post]
Sure, no problem and apologies for the typos and the grammar. It was quite late at night.
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11-09-22 12:04 #26700
Posts: 37Thanks
Originally Posted by Venom5566 [View Original Post]
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11-09-22 11:51 #26699
Posts: 1192This was one of the best reports I have seen on a long time. If you are Ok I will try to make into Reports of Distinction.
Many people have suffered for not understanding how things work here.
Originally Posted by MrTouristic [View Original Post]
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11-09-22 05:47 #26698
Posts: 18Scam / Dubai Legal
Originally Posted by Londa85 [View Original Post]
I will give you a brief overview of my experience with the law and the police. The fraud I was victim to is slightly different in nature to yours but hopefully my experience will give you (and others) an idea of how complaints of a "sensitive" nature are viewed there.
I too tried the anonymous methods of reporting my scammer to the police. As a tourist to the UAE (resident, UAE I. D) I found difficult to file a complaint and I ended up sending an email. This was not acknowledged and the complaint was not followed up. This despite me having:
1) details of the scammers passport.
2) WhatsApp messages describing the fraud.
3) money transfer details.
Because of the type and size of the fraud I sought legal advice and I canvassed three local firms one of which had UK lawyer's. All these firms offered and initial consultation on a pro-bono basis. This varied from 30 minutes to one hour. The striking thing was that the views were very mixed alot of the variation came from my concern around the use of WhatsApp conversations and my concerns that I might end in jail too (for as little as using swear words). This will give you an idea of the complications and the risks of using working girls in that part of the world.
1) visa status: all the lawyers were very keen to understand on what visa / basis the subject was in the UAE on. If a tourist visa the sense was it would be easier work. Anything else would be tricky.
2) tel number used by the criminal: all were very keen to also understand whether the WhatsApp messages were sent from a Dubai number of a number originating from another country. If a Dubai number then again this makes prosecution easier under the UAE's cyber laws. One lawyer told me that by merely soliciting using WhatsApp (sending pictures and quoting prices) would be enough to file a case and have the subject fined, imprisoned deported and blacklisted for life.
3) relying on WhatsApp for the police complaint: the opinions I received here were varied. Yes you can use your chat history but it will need to be translated into Arabic (all agreed on this) you would pay for this. One lawyer suggested that the police would want my phone forensically analyzed to make sure that the chat log was not altered and any information was not deleted. Again, you pay for this and the lawyer estimated that it would cost 20 k AED ($5 k) the English lawyer suggested just walking away and forgetting about it.
4) costs: your average cost of a lawyer per hour was $500 per hour with VAT. Which from a UK perspective was about similar (given the 20% VAT levied in the UK). But they will quote you a fixed fee for the task. Which will involve making the complaint and batting off anything that gets thrown back at you. Keep in mind that if the police take the case you are open to counter claim. For the criminal case estimates ranged from 8-12 hours work (not including court costs or translation).
5) Process: as there is money involved you may wish to seek repatriation of your money plus damages. To do this the lawyers agreed that you would first raise a criminal complaint, secure a conviction. If successful, the criminal is subject to a fine (this goes to the state, not you), imprisonment (likely in your case) of which they are charged see. $30 per day, deportation and a permanent ban from the UAE. Secondly, after conviction is secured you would raise a civil case for the amount you lost plus damages, plus your costs. This process attracts another, fixed fee. If successful the criminal stays in prison for up to two years (charged at the daily rate) until the money is paid back to you.
Also worth noting that:
1) if the Tel number is a Dubai number and is registered to the user, the number can be traced to a person. If the number has been sold into someone that uses the number for any reason then the original registered user has committed a crime. The Tel numbers are registered to a passport or a UAE I. The.
2) if passport details are acquired (by you or the police) it makes the investigation a lot easier (obviously). Those passport scan machines you see in hotels are all apparently linked to a police database and the data is stored. Anybody that has been to a hotel and had their passports scanned have their details on a police database.
3) once a criminal or civil case has been filed and the subject is identified there is a block on travel and the subject can be detained at the airport until the matter is resolved. In a criminal case I believe that now extends to borders in all GCC countries.
To summarise, as a foreign national and given the nature of the fraud I was involved in I thought it better to make my complaint via a lawyer. Sadly, the process took a while to put in place the the person that defrauded me left the country before the complaint was established (missed by three weeks) but it's there if she returns. I made my complaint out of principle. The money I would expect to be returned would be equal to the amount I would expect to receive (I assume some losses through the court system). I am not sure I would bother with the civil leg of the complaint.
So, it's down to you. But remember, lawyer's aren't charity. They want paying and they are not cheap. If this had been a fraud committed in the UK I simply would have gone to the police station and filed a complaint.
Your case was aggravated so it will be taken more seriously.
All I would say to everyone is be careful of whom you meet in places like (exactly) CZAR bar and what you are told and be careful of what you write in WhatsApp chats. You might be having to show those chats to lawyers and police in future. Also, avoid being drawn into telegram chats, the entire conversations can be 'nuked'/ deleted for everyone.
I hope this helps.
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11-08-22 22:33 #26697
Posts: 181Hotel and mujra
Originally Posted by NirIndian [View Original Post]
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11-08-22 20:36 #26696
Posts: 1486Originally Posted by NirIndian [View Original Post]
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11-08-22 18:51 #26695
Posts: 1181Originally Posted by NirIndian [View Original Post]
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11-08-22 09:57 #26694
Posts: 37Suggestion in Dubai for group fun.
Guys,
Recently able to PM enable with a subscription. I have many value-for-money contacts in Kolkata (India) & Vietnam, would be happy to share. Here is my recent 6 days mongering report in Vietnam - http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...Info&p=2759513#post2759513.
We, 4 friends are visiting Dubai on 29th Nov, we are looking for some Mujra dance fun, drinks together & then deed in some 2 bhk apartment hotel. I would be happy if anyone can share any such local contacts who can arrange the same. Kindly PM me.
Cheers.
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11-07-22 07:51 #26693
Posts: 409Azeri Fun at Marina
Thankfully I got from BloodRed the contact of "his" Azeri bar girl.
Arrived at a very well known hotel in Marina I went up to her apartment.
No registration needed, just to the elevator and up.
There I was then greeted by a very hot girl.
Pretty face with full lips, great curvy figure and a magnificent ass.
Nice conversation and the chemistry has immediately fit very well.
Then showered, off on the bed and a soulful round GFE took its course.
DFK, BBBJ, DATY, everything was on the menu. When we had then changed to doggy, it was done around me and Conti got his filling.
Then I took a shower and wanted to get ready for round two, but Azeri Hottie was already dressed again and obviously done with me.
OK, so I got dressed too, we chatted a bit, had a drink and a smoke then I was out again after about 1 h.
Conclusion: super nice girl, great figure and very good GFE, but for 1 k / h also very expensive.
Am not sure if there will be a repeat.
Have fun guys and stay safe!
Cheers.