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  1. #27198
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    That's an uncalled thing to say. I mean sure, we see them as someone we want to fuck, as pussy, a transactional relationship, or whatever. But I have never NOT seen them as people. A lot of them are single Mothers supporting their kids or a sick parent, or just escaping wretched poverty. That's why even if I have an encounter with a nasty one, I just don't repeat her but I don't make it a point to be nasty in return. It's just like a clown at a circus, underneath all that make up and costume, is a human being with feelings. Anyway, I don't mean to preach or lecture you or anybody.
    Top man Blood Red, couldn't have said it better, and I thought the same when I saw that comment. As I try to be nice to them and build a connection, I can vouch for the supporting elderly parents or raising kids alone. And it wasn't sob stories from them, it's info I gathered when I checked their social media after adding each other.

    Even the sharky ones I just blame it on being in the business long enough to get jaded. Leave politely and never go back. Dealing with people in a service industry is hard. And this is sort of the ultimate service level.

    Good on you MickyDuck for taking the point

  2. #27197

    POint taken.

    I agree, apologies.

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    That's an uncalled thing to say. I mean sure, we see them as someone we want to fuck, as pussy, a transactional relationship, or whatever. But I have never NOT seen them as people. A lot of them are single Mothers supporting their kids or a sick parent, or just escaping wretched poverty. That's why even if I have an encounter with a nasty one, I just don't repeat her but I don't make it a point to be nasty in return. It's just like a clown at a circus, underneath all that make up and costume, is a human being with feelings. Anyway, I don't mean to preach or lecture you or anybody.

  3. #27196

    Red square on Sunday night

    Good evening,

    I had a little fun at Red Square on Sunday evening. Ratio was 70/30, with more women than men. A lot of Russian dolls and I only stayed an hour between 00h30 and 1 h30. Price to get in 250 with 2 drinks. Found this cute young Russian. She said her mom from SP in Russia and dad from Turkey (or vice / versa). Talked to mama-san. She quoted originally 2000 for 2 h but when quickly down when she saw my face. My last time in RS was 1000 AED for 2 h. I told her I offer 1250 which she bargained into 1300. + 30% increase in just 2 months.

    Anyway, up we leave and she is quite nice, not too much make-up and all. I booked a room at QE2 but did not do my check-in prior so we did it together. Hotel is really green as the person waiting at the reception before me was a vulgar Asian hooker with tattoos, ultra-short skirt and so much make up. The receptionist told her that her "friend" was supposed to come down to pick her up and that the reception could not dial in the rooms past 11 pm.

    Anyway, went my turn. I was surprised that the girl had an Emirates ID. This is the first time I see a resident escort. Usually, they just show passport with tourist or visit visa. Anyway, up we go in our room which is quite nice.

    A quick shower, a little social time. It was nice as she had a perfect body. Good boobs for her size and all was good. Nothing spectacular. But good. Let's say that I had better social time. Only allowed me for 2 shots (1 per hour) but that was ok.

    Did not take her name, nor phone number so it tells it all.

  4. #27195

    Czar

    Good evening.

    Tuesday night at Czar ratio 60% men to 40%.

    Mostly girls are at best 7.

    Entry 200 with 2 drinks or 1000 per table.

    Got table but quality poor 2 night.

    Music excellent.

    You can leave a bottle upto a week and return.

    Moving on to a Filipino club let's see how that goes.

  5. #27194
    Quote Originally Posted by Rk237  [View Original Post]
    It just felt deliberate for that stinky breath as in maybe she doesn't like to kiss or just plain turn off the man so that a night session is short and not night (I opted for a night) upon experiencing that breath I was like fuarkkkk, but eventually pushed her over rammed the day lights off her and off she was.

    Point being you've paid just hit 1 shot chuck the face fuck the base concept and let go. Cause that money aint coming back to you mate.
    Nothing that Betadine or Listerine can't fix and I always have both ready. Betadine is the best, I highly recommend every punter use it after a session. But good on you to still fuck the day lights out of her.

  6. #27193
    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy8907  [View Original Post]

    At around 11:15, a Ukrainian walked in that was cute with an amazing cleavage, so I went and spoke to her. She was an absolute sweetheart, and we quickly made a deal for 1200 for 3 hours (my mistake for not going for a shorter time). We get to my place and we're chatting with the occasional kissing. She's an expert time waster, and it took until after 2 till we were in bed with just her panties and my boxers on. I wiggle my way out of my boxers, and she asks why I took them off. I thought she was teasing so told her hers were coming off too, but then she starts telling me she doesn't sleep with anyone in Dubai, at which point things quickly soured and I told her to leave. She was trying to bullshit that she didn't know that's the point of Czar and that I didn't ask about sex in the club and to be fair to her she kept her pleasant demeanour (actually made me feel bad an hour or so after she left).
    .
    I'm sorry but you were totally scammed by this woman and such women are the absolute worst you can find at the clubs. I'm going to assume from your post and please correct me if I'm wrong that you let her keep the 1200? Now I was once the victim of a scam which was somewhat similar although not completely so I'm not bashing you, it can happen to anyone. You really should have asked for your money back and sent her packing with a few reds but yes that can sometimes be a bit tricky. Anyway, lesson learned. And her story about not discussing in the club is also BS which you already know. Every girl that goes to Czar or RS is there to be picked up. One can argue and inquire about specifics in the service (kissing, BJ, BBBJ, etc). And when someone is out to scam you, you really need to be firm with them or they'll just take advantage of you for being a gentleman, which seems to be the case.

  7. #27192

    Just an opinion with due respect

    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixBh  [View Original Post]
    While coming down the elevator I had realized this wasn't going to go too well. She was drunk and was out of her mind. Into the room, she took payment and began to kiss. It was more of a lick rather than a kiss, that was the first red flag. Anyways, little bit more of the tongue stuff and jonny began to warm up. She went down on me and jonny wasn't too happy, yep the infamous lack of BJ skills! Her teeth kept coming in the way. She kept trying and I had to eventually stop her as it was turning me off. She went back to licking and tried everything she could but I guess jonny had enough for the day. I told her to leave and she made a bit of a face so I had to be assertive that the night was over. Didn't ask her for any money back, sometimes you just got to take a hard loss to learn your lesson properly.

    End of day one and I am going to try and get some sleep. Will post another update once I have explored some other spots.
    Hey buddy! Apologies for the bad experience but I wonder even after everything the fact that you paid her why wouldn't you just fuck her and then ask her to leave. Ok I understand you were turned off xyz. But dude just basic foreplay or perhaps working your hands on her body just enough for you to get a hard on and then fuck her and finish the deed. You've paid her her asked donation fee so just do the deed for yourself. That is how I would deal with if the lady is a bit blah with her skills.

    Let me tell you a funny story.

    So this one time I picked up a lady from czar. She perhaps checked all the boxes she smelt well, dressed amazing, just perfectly chubby you see you need some cousin for the pushin hahahaha, now the turn off when we started to kiss she strangely had a a really stinky breath it almost felt like she did that on purpose to turn off the client that she would see. It just felt deliberate for that stinky breath as in maybe she doesn't like to kiss or just plain turn off the man so that a night session is short and not night (I opted for a night) upon experiencing that breath I was like fuarkkkk, but eventually pushed her over rammed the day lights off her and off she was.

    Point being you've paid just hit 1 shot chuck the face fuck the base concept and let go. Cause that money aint coming back to you mate.

  8. #27191
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    That's an uncalled thing to say. I mean sure, we see them as someone we want to fuck, as pussy, a transactional relationship, or whatever. But I have never NOT seen them as people. A lot of them are single Mothers supporting their kids or a sick parent, or just escaping wretched poverty. That's why even if I have an encounter with a nasty one, I just don't repeat her but I don't make it a point to be nasty in return. It's just like a clown at a circus, underneath all that make up and costume, is a human being with feelings. Anyway, I don't mean to preach or lecture you or anybody.
    Thanks for pointing it out BloodR, I missed out that comment. I completely agree with you on this.

    I have been doing this in Dubai since 2013, and all the girls I have met, have some or the other reason for doing this. They are taking care of their family back home. And I always treat them with respect. If there is something the girl is not comfortable with, never force it.

    One has to be mentally deranged to make a comment like that, "not human". I suggest one should seek professional help as this is not healthy.

    Cheers!!

  9. #27190
    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy8907  [View Original Post]
    I wasn't sure whether or not to bother sharing this, but your post has inspired me to do so.

    She was trying to bullshit that she didn't know that's the point of Czar and that I didn't ask about sex in the club and to be fair to her she kept her pleasant demeanour (actually made me feel bad an hour or so after she left).
    Well she got the best of you. Nobody stumbles in RS or Czar "by luck". They won't even let a girl inside if she is not there to work so that's 200% bullshit. Heck, every girl accepting to go with you for money knows that, no matter the bar/club/pool, especially in Dubai. That's the first time I hear that and I would have asked for at least half back, keep the other half for her time. I would even report her to the girls at the front desk.

  10. #27189
    Quote Originally Posted by ATexGuy  [View Original Post]
    I am 50+ pages into this forum preparing for my first trip to Dubai. I collected a lot of great information from those that have contributed good reviews, but I was specifically looking to see what Dubai is like on Sunday nights. Dubai isn't in the heart of the Bible Belt, so I am curious if it is business is normal on Sunday night or if a lot of clubs are closed. Sunday night are often very quiet nights in most cities.
    I wasn't sure whether or not to bother sharing this, but your post has inspired me to do so.

    This last Sunday I visited Czar, and to be honest, I loved the scene as it was fairly quiet. I arrived at about 10:15, so it was still mostly empty, but around 11:00 there were quite a few options. There was one goth looking chick there before I arrived that I really had my eye on, and I wish I took her.

    At around 11:15, a Ukrainian walked in that was cute with an amazing cleavage, so I went and spoke to her. She was an absolute sweetheart, and we quickly made a deal for 1200 for 3 hours (my mistake for not going for a shorter time). We get to my place and we're chatting with the occasional kissing. She's an expert time waster, and it took until after 2 till we were in bed with just her panties and my boxers on. I wiggle my way out of my boxers, and she asks why I took them off. I thought she was teasing so told her hers were coming off too, but then she starts telling me she doesn't sleep with anyone in Dubai, at which point things quickly soured and I told her to leave. She was trying to bullshit that she didn't know that's the point of Czar and that I didn't ask about sex in the club and to be fair to her she kept her pleasant demeanour (actually made me feel bad an hour or so after she left).

    So the point of this post. You can still find ladies easily on Sundays at the clubs, and if you're into the girl next door look, you'll find some really good lookers (there were others in the club I would have been very happy with than just the goth and the one I took). Just make sure if you are talking to an independent chick that you sort out the details ahead of time and if you see a Ukrainian called Vlada (at least that the name she gave me) with decent sized boobs that look extra soft, a roundish face and slightly oversized round shaped glasses that you really sort out the details in the club.

    Having said that, if anyone has any recommendations for a decently priced overnighted I can meet tonight I'the be very very grateful! I was too busy last night and still need to scratch that itch.

    Tim.

  11. #27188
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    That's an uncalled thing to say. I mean sure, we see them as someone we want to fuck, as pussy, a transactional relationship, or whatever. But I have never NOT seen them as people. A lot of them are single Mothers supporting their kids or a sick parent, or just escaping wretched poverty. That's why even if I have an encounter with a nasty one, I just don't repeat her but I don't make it a point to be nasty in return. It's just like a clown at a circus, underneath all that make up and costume, is a human being with feelings. Anyway, I don't mean to preach or lecture you or anybody.
    Totally agree with you mate, I think as long as we don't cross the fine line in the encounter everything else is the same, they are normal people just like us why should we look at them differently?

  12. #27187
    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyDuck1208  [View Original Post]
    It is not easy to see these girls as people most of the time. .
    That's an uncalled thing to say. I mean sure, we see them as someone we want to fuck, as pussy, a transactional relationship, or whatever. But I have never NOT seen them as people. A lot of them are single Mothers supporting their kids or a sick parent, or just escaping wretched poverty. That's why even if I have an encounter with a nasty one, I just don't repeat her but I don't make it a point to be nasty in return. It's just like a clown at a circus, underneath all that make up and costume, is a human being with feelings. Anyway, I don't mean to preach or lecture you or anybody.

  13. #27186
    Quote Originally Posted by DrainMaker  [View Original Post]
    Free fuck is an illusion.
    s.
    That's absolutely right.

    If a woman wants to fuck you for free, best to walk away and say you can't afford it.

  14. #27185

    Czar and Bazerkan

    Long time silent observer, this is my 2nd trip to Dubai and I thought it's finally time to return the favor (a little bit) after scrapping through 150+ pages in these forums.

    I booked my stay at Capitol and landed yesterday morning. Check-in took sometime as the hotel was fairly busy, after 2 hours or so they finaly checked me in. Spent the day working through a coffee shope until I finally began to go through my list of targets. I had some MR girls I had been talking to before travelling to Dubai, messaged 3 of them and none answered. Welp! Plan be it was so headed to Moscow, had a couple of beers, nothing much interesting, mostly were the avrage 6 or 7's except one absolute bomb but she was already in conversation with another guy. Had 2 beers and left. I didn't want to travel too far so I decided to head back to Capitol and check out Czar.

    Standard entry stuff at Czar, 200 for the entry which includes 2 drinks. It was a little quite around 10:30 pm with most girls sitting in groups. I took notes from the seniors in the forum and didn't take the table. Instead, I placed myself at the bar sipping my drink and waiting. Lo and behold! In about 10 minutes I had two girls revolving around me at the bar getting their drinks, they decided to stay there for a duration to see if they gauge any interest from me. But they weren't my type so I didn't pass any smiles back. Had some 6-7's passing by going to the bathroom, but my eyes were focused on 2 girls.

    1 - A petite Russian who was a redhead. Now hear me out! Petite is a bit of a weakness of mine and if you top that with redhead I am sold! But I kept my patience. After a few smiles she came around to the bar and we started talking. I was really interested but she pointed to a friend of hers (also petite). Turns out she wanted her friend to be involved which I denied straightaway. It's just not my thing! A bit disappointed but not bummed as I knew there was plenty of fish in the sea.

    2 - An Uzbek girl who was on her own, she walked by for a drink and we exchanged greetings. She had a great body with an ass to die for. We chatted for a bit, she was very pleasent to speak to and very good English. Sorted out the deal for 800 for 2 shots. Finished a drink and came back up to the room. Chatted for a while before we started kissing. Not much of a kisser but I enjoyed grabbing her ass while we kissed. OWO In a few minutes and man this was one of the best sloppy BJ's I ever had. But I wasnt done, I railed her mouth for a bit before I had her legs on my shoulders pounding her deep. The moans got me even more hornier and I finished in missionary. We showered and chatted for a bit before jonny was ready again. Repeat sloppy BJ, a bit of missionary pounding before I took her in doggy while slapping that ass and doing lots of dirty talk. Over all great experience, I sweetened the deal for her in the end and gave her an extra 200 on top of the agreed amount.

    She left and I had another shower. I was really hungry at this point as I had only eaten dinner the day before. I was leaving the hotel to get some food when I saw a really hot Irani walk in to the hotel, she was telling the bouncer that she is going up for shisha (Bazerkan). I kept that in mind and left the hotel to feed my empty stomach.

    You will soon know that going to Bazerkan was an awful mistake. I finished food, came back to the room to freshened up, and went up to Bazerkan. There she was! The sexy Irani I had seen enter the hotel when I was leaving. Lots of eye contact and dancing gestures later, we were talking. She began with 1500 for 2 shots, I told her I was too tired and was just looking for a quickie. Agreed at 500 for one shot. We smoked shisha for a bit, paid the bill and came down to the room (It was around 3 am by then). While coming down the elevator I had realized this wasn't going to go too well. She was drunk and was out of her mind. Into the room, she took payment and began to kiss. It was more of a lick rather than a kiss, that was the first red flag. Anyways, little bit more of the tongue stuff and jonny began to warm up. She went down on me and jonny wasn't too happy, yep the infamous lack of BJ skills! Her teeth kept coming in the way. She kept trying and I had to eventually stop her as it was turning me off. She went back to licking and tried everything she could but I guess jonny had enough for the day. I told her to leave and she made a bit of a face so I had to be assertive that the night was over. Didn't ask her for any money back, sometimes you just got to take a hard loss to learn your lesson properly.

    End of day one and I am going to try and get some sleep. Will post another update once I have explored some other spots.

  15. #27184
    Quote Originally Posted by WantMore  [View Original Post]
    Dude, it is a heartfelt post. From the sounds of it, you are looking for a girlfriend not a hooker. You are unlikely to find a hooker who is going to really want you as a person. She will want you for the money and sex with her will always have that distance.

    Getting a sugar baby will come closer to what you are looking for. It will involve a fair bit of searching and for a younger guy might not be that different from normal dating website.

    There are two things that you will need to make peace with if you want to be in the mongering / sugar world. It is expensive even by Dubai standards and much more so when compared to India. I have very limited experience in p4 p in India but the had an SB for a week or so. She asked for less than half of what I was expecting to pay and even then she thought I was paying her top dollar. Even the amounts, I see on the India board seem much muchowe than Dubai.

    My advice to you would be a stop mongering for sometime and think of actual dating. Mongering to some extend changes your perspective that every woman will suck your cock at the right price but proper relationships are more complex and need far more skillful handing.

    Finally, if you think hookers are expensive wait until you have a wife / GF😂128514;128514;.
    Free fuck is an illusion.

    As Wody Allen says 'Free fuck is the most expensive fuck in the world.

    But then again there are so many intangilbles.

    Mongering & SBs is no substitute for relationships.

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