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  1. #27180

    Interesting

    I can relate a bit. I use to be happy go luck, see lady for an hour and move on.

    Then I met one, saw her three time and made mistake of thinking she likes me. Fell for her. Met several time and one day she just blocked.

    It's all about money, I know, but I fell and hurt myself.

    I don't enjoy now and hope can have few regular, but it's hard to retry and trust.

    Bro Bloodred, thanks for all the tips in the forum. You rock.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apdhillon  [View Original Post]
    This will likely get flagged and not even get posted but I wanted to share my $0. 02. I moved to dubai alone a year and a half back. The "meat market" is a good way to escape the loneliness that comes at you in this city. I feel like a lot of us young, specifically Indian dudes spend money to feel "wanted" or "desired' for a bit. I spend a lot of time reading posts on here but when it comes to picking up the phone and ringing a random woman I pussy out thinking of STDs or just the logistics. I had my share of "fun" at spas but frankly. Most of them don't do FS, the BBBJ offering makes me scared of STDs and well a HJ is usually better off at home with some good porn from Onlyfans.


    Have a pleasant weekend.

  2. #27179

    You are right

    You are right on all counts, and I can relate to this even from other "hobbies". I am also an enthusiast and collect something more materialistic. After a few years of doing it, the hobby lost its charm. The usual dopamine kick that I used to get when I acquired another material thing to add to my "collection" was no longer there. I have since reduced my involvement in that hobby by almost 90% of my time now, and also spend much less money on it. Once you know something is not working for you, stop putting time and money into it.

    Mongering is not about finding someone that wants you. I am pretty sure, for all the "GFE" descriptions we see here, very few of them are actually that. It is also the girl faking it so that she gets your money and gives you that high for a few minutes. Once we leave her, she probably texts her friends and makes fun of something we said or did or the size of our johnnies. If you still want female company, not the sex, just try some good old fashioned dating. Going home after a dinner and drinks alone to Onlyfans is not a bad deal, if the food was good and the girl was likeable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apdhillon  [View Original Post]
    This will likely get flagged and not even get posted but I wanted to share my $0. 02. I moved to dubai alone a year and a half back. The "meat market" is a good way to escape the loneliness that comes at you in this city. I feel like a lot of us young, specifically Indian dudes spend money to feel "wanted" or "desired' for a bit. I spend a lot of time reading posts on here but when it comes to picking up the phone and ringing a random woman I pussy out thinking of STDs or just the logistics. I had my share of "fun" at spas but frankly. Most of them don't do FS, the BBBJ offering makes me scared of STDs and well a HJ is usually better off at home with some good porn from Onlyfans.

  3. #27178
    Different strokes for different folk. Personally for me mongering is like eating out, its entertainment pure and simple, nothing more and nothing less. Its (and this is going to sound odd) not even necessarily all about the sex.

    You are clearly looking for something deeper and I don't think you are going to find that mongering. Join some social (hobby) clubs, plenty of organisations you can volunteer, make some friends and hopefully that can fill some of the hole you maybe feeling working in Dubai and away from your friends and family back home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apdhillon  [View Original Post]
    I share these thoughts because I recognise there's a lot of younger mongers here just lurking just like me. Obv this is ISG and you are not coming here for self help. The mongering world has a lot of soft skills you can actually use irl. I learned to be more street smart, understand the art of "trading" information and interact with women better. But if you are like me, fundamentally broken deep within, perhaps consider other avenues to spend your money and find happiness. Even consider therapy.

    I don't mean to retire from mongering. For now I am just trying to find models I relate to and have a steady rapport with. So far there's been shit luck on that end.

    Anyway, idk where I'm going at with all this. Just sharing my emo musings on balancing the mental aspects of mongering with the physical.

    Have a pleasant weekend.

  4. #27177
    Quote Originally Posted by Apdhillon  [View Original Post]
    This will likely get flagged and not even get posted but I wanted to share my $0. 02. I moved to dubai alone a year and a half back. The "meat market" is a good way to escape the loneliness that comes at you in this city. I feel like a lot of us young, specifically Indian dudes spend money to feel "wanted" or "desired' for a bit. I spend a lot of time reading posts on here but when it comes to picking up the phone and ringing a random woman I pussy out thinking of STDs or just the logistics. I had my share of "fun" at spas but frankly. Most of them don't do FS, the BBBJ offering makes me scared of STDs and well a HJ is usually better off at home with some good porn from Onlyfans.

    I admire the mongers that have been able to do it for a decade and not catch STDs or feel broken deep within. I realise the mongering is just me slapping a bandaid on what needs surgery. I think I will just retire from any active mongering because it no longer gives me joy to spend money with random women to spend an hour with me. Don't get me wrong- I don't belittle sex work or people that pursue it. I have great admiration for people that can have their needs met and can afford it. Me personally, I come from a third world country and spending the equivalent of a month's wages on a woman for her to pretend like she wants your thing in her. Idk man. It all feels weird.

    I share these thoughts because I recognise there's a lot of younger mongers here just lurking just like me. Obv this is ISG and you are not coming here for self help. The mongering world has a lot of soft skills you can actually use irl. I learned to be more street smart, understand the art of "trading" information and interact with women better. But if you are like me, fundamentally broken deep within, perhaps consider other avenues to spend your money and find happiness. Even consider therapy.

    I don't mean to retire from mongering. For now I am just trying to find models I relate to and have a steady rapport with. So far there's been shit luck on that end.

    Anyway, idk where I'm going at with all this. Just sharing my emo musings on balancing the mental aspects of mongering with the physical.

    Have a pleasant weekend.
    That's why you need to have regulars. Alot of seasoned mongers aren't constantly going with new girls every time. Once you have a circle of regulars it is much more enjoyable because they know you, you know them, and they do basically become like friends with benefits albeit you pay them. I'm going to Dubai next week for 4 days and all the girls I'm planning to see are my regulars and ones I've had very good sessions with.

    These days I can count the new girls I take in a year on one hand, most of my action are with girls I know. One of my regulars doesn't even work the clubs anymore and has a full time day job working in re al estate. I have another amazing Brazilian regular who also doesn't work the clubs anymore and is a daytime trader now and starting her own company. And yeah lol she's a regular of mine. So you have to create a regular circle.

  5. #27176
    Quote Originally Posted by Apdhillon  [View Original Post]
    I moved to dubai alone a year and a half back. scared of STDs
    No one can blame you on this specially since you are on a work visa, not worth failing your blood test over a cheap punt. Keep this guard up its definitely not worth the regret.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apdhillon  [View Original Post]
    Spending the equivalent of a month's wages on a woman for her to pretend like she wants your thing in her.
    Your problem. Aside from your racial insecurity. Is that you are trying to get validation from hookers. That's not the way it works. We pay them to LEAVE not to like us. This is a transactional relationship pure and simple. Not you showing low self-esteem and needing approval from PROSTITUTES to validate your life? Come on buddy. If you look at a massage girl after the session and think oh man she would have never got near my dick unless I paid her I'm a loser and then feel sorry about it that means you have low self confidence, worry and self-doubt.

    You have to make peace with yourself & practice acceptance and contentment. Otherwise every time you leave from a punt you are going to feel emptier and emptier, shallow and ashamed of your self rather than experiencing what us real mongers feel. Upbeated, relaxed, satisfied with a skip in your step ready to go to work and fight another challenge in your life.

    Hit the gym and get your life in order.

  6. #27175
    Quote Originally Posted by Apdhillon  [View Original Post]
    This will likely get flagged and not even get posted but I wanted to share my $0. 02. I moved to dubai alone a year and a half back. The "meat market" is a good way to escape the loneliness that comes at you in this city. I feel like a lot of us young, specifically Indian dudes spend money to feel "wanted" or "desired' for a bit. I spend a lot of time reading posts on here but when it comes to picking up the phone and ringing a random woman I pussy out thinking of STDs or just the logistics. I had my share of "fun" at spas but frankly. Most of them don't do FS, the BBBJ offering makes me scared of STDs and well a HJ is usually better off at home with some good porn from Onlyfans.

    I admire the mongers that have been able to do it for a decade and not catch STDs or feel broken deep within. I realise the mongering is just me slapping a bandaid on what needs surgery. I think I will just retire from any active mongering because it no longer gives me joy to spend money with random women to spend an hour with me. Don't get me wrong- I don't belittle sex work or people that pursue it. I have great admiration for people that can have their needs met and can afford it. Me personally, I come from a third world country and spending the equivalent of a month's wages on a woman for her to pretend like she wants your thing in her. Idk man. It all feels weird.

    I share these thoughts because I recognise there's a lot of younger mongers here just lurking just like me. Obv this is ISG and you are not coming here for self help. The mongering world has a lot of soft skills you can actually use irl. I learned to be more street smart, understand the art of "trading" information and interact with women better. But if you are like me, fundamentally broken deep within, perhaps consider other avenues to spend your money and find happiness. Even consider therapy.

    I don't mean to retire from mongering. For now I am just trying to find models I relate to and have a steady rapport with. So far there's been shit luck on that end.

    Anyway, idk where I'm going at with all this. Just sharing my emo musings on balancing the mental aspects of mongering with the physical.

    Have a pleasant weekend.
    Seems like there's a lot going on in your life. From the opening of your post it seems you are actually looking for a relationship / partner but looking in the wrong place.

    Go out and find a GF, leave this for later.

  7. #27174

    Coffee anyone?

    I arrived very late in DXB but was in a mood of searching for a girl. Usually I visit RS but this time I wanted to try something different. So I ended up at Ratskys which I never entered before. Apart from the girls I was disappointed as. For me. The place was too noisy, too dark and the music too loud. So I was trying not to stay too long.

    After a short time I saw a small quite pretty viet girl smiling at me. We had a nice chat, she told me that she's Coffee and from Vietnam and we agreed on 8 reds.

    - fast forward to the hotel. In the hotel both of us took a shower (seperately) and then the action started. Coffee is blessed with a great body, made boobs (but in a good way. So not oversized) and she got a quit big tattoo at her neck.

    First round was all about BBJ. Great skills and I ended up in her mouth in 69 position.

    After that round she gave me a pretty good massage. Not just the usual touchy stuff. And after a while we went for second round. After a short BBJ she pulled over the cover and then we did some cowgirl, missionary and I finished in doggy. She's very tight and so it could not hold it too long unfortunately.

    Look: 8/10.

    Action: 8/10 (a bit more grip for BBJ would raise the score).

    WR: Hopefully.

  8. #27173
    Quote Originally Posted by Apdhillon  [View Original Post]
    it no longer gives me joy to spend money with random women to spend an hour with me. Don't get me wrong- I don't belittle sex work or people that pursue it. I have great admiration for people that can have their needs met and can afford it. Me personally, I come from a third world country and spending the equivalent of a month's wages on a woman for her to pretend like she wants your thing in her. Idk man. It all feels weird.
    That's your problem there. You're paying money thinking the girl will pretend to like you for an hour (or not). That's a bad take on this. It's better for you to go the SA route and find a sugarbaby. Don't go for escorts there, a real baby that will like you for your money but not only. She will spend time with you, write to you, ask about you, care about you if you build a real relation. This takes time and needs work to find the one that fits you.

    If you go to a prostitute for an hour, it's to fuck her. Period. Don't expect more than that. I personally don't care if she pretends to like me or not. As long as she is not obviously disgusted or unhappy. But neutral is fine. If she orgasms, good but it's not my main goal. I'm going for my own sexual pleasure and companionship.

  9. #27172

    Some musings

    This will likely get flagged and not even get posted but I wanted to share my $0. 02. I moved to dubai alone a year and a half back. The "meat market" is a good way to escape the loneliness that comes at you in this city. I feel like a lot of us young, specifically Indian dudes spend money to feel "wanted" or "desired' for a bit. I spend a lot of time reading posts on here but when it comes to picking up the phone and ringing a random woman I pussy out thinking of STDs or just the logistics. I had my share of "fun" at spas but frankly. Most of them don't do FS, the BBBJ offering makes me scared of STDs and well a HJ is usually better off at home with some good porn from Onlyfans.

    I admire the mongers that have been able to do it for a decade and not catch STDs or feel broken deep within. I realise the mongering is just me slapping a bandaid on what needs surgery. I think I will just retire from any active mongering because it no longer gives me joy to spend money with random women to spend an hour with me. Don't get me wrong- I don't belittle sex work or people that pursue it. I have great admiration for people that can have their needs met and can afford it. Me personally, I come from a third world country and spending the equivalent of a month's wages on a woman for her to pretend like she wants your thing in her. Idk man. It all feels weird.

    I share these thoughts because I recognise there's a lot of younger mongers here just lurking just like me. Obv this is ISG and you are not coming here for self help. The mongering world has a lot of soft skills you can actually use irl. I learned to be more street smart, understand the art of "trading" information and interact with women better. But if you are like me, fundamentally broken deep within, perhaps consider other avenues to spend your money and find happiness. Even consider therapy.

    I don't mean to retire from mongering. For now I am just trying to find models I relate to and have a steady rapport with. So far there's been shit luck on that end.

    Anyway, idk where I'm going at with all this. Just sharing my emo musings on balancing the mental aspects of mongering with the physical.

    Have a pleasant weekend.

  10. #27171
    Quote Originally Posted by KittyLover  [View Original Post]
    Plan on visiting Dubai in coming April 2023. Just want to reconfirm if the popular Ratsky nightclub is located in Fortune Karama Hotel near the ADCB metro station?.
    Yes, indeed. Looking forward to your reports.

  11. #27170
    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyDuck1208  [View Original Post]
    She must have come back from Davos, and is still high!! LOL.

    But seriously, pre and post covid I can feel a significant change. Price is one thing that has definitely gone up, but what I see more often is girls willing to walk away and not budge on the price. Earlier, a bit of sweet talking and praise would have made the girl at least meet halfway. Now the attitude is "take it or leave it". It really messes up things when you go with a fixed budget.
    DAVOS, hahahah!! Couldn't agree any more with you mate. I've noticed that these women are too strong about what service they wish to provide if its something they don't want they will happily decline you and not give a fuck. I guess it all boils down to the fact that its currently the sellers market. Sad when it being a sellers market you still get shitty quality women (5-7's quality). I still strongly believe although never tried them but lust model agency has perhaps the most pretty looking ladies but they are insanely priced man.

  12. #27169
    Quote Originally Posted by Komnetkijken  [View Original Post]

    All in all, I'm still focusing on Czar and Moscow as hunting grounds. Haven't found any better.
    Yes, its sad that there are not new places with top quality women besides the 2 mentioned. But, I've been told five palm jumeirah has a great bunch of women working there. Although they come with a heft price tag. For someone who has no budget constrains I strongly recommend this place. Its stupidly funny that if you happen to have their numbers and were to call them for an out call somewhere else in dxb their prices differ. ! thing my friend mentioned that the quality of asian pussy put up in five palm is a notch above rest of dxb, I don't know how true that is.

    Also, you earlier mentioned GND what's the full form to that?

    Have you tried the byblos chain of hotels and their respective night clubs?

  13. #27168
    I would take anyone up on that offer. But not sure where I would find someone. Here till 31st morning. Probably a couple of tries left before I leave. Will be back next month.

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyDuck1208  [View Original Post]
    Maybe you should be a wingman. If you are staying longer in DXB. Go in with someone that has done it many times, and just watch and learn. It is no rocket science. As others have said, the girls are in a more risky situation since they don't know what kind of a creep the guy might turn out to be. Just be confident, and polite. Thats all it takes.

    Treat it like you are walking up and talking to a new girl / lady at a big fat Indian wedding. We talk to a lot of people for the first time there, don't we? LOL.

  14. #27167
    Maybe you should be a wingman. If you are staying longer in DXB. Go in with someone that has done it many times, and just watch and learn. It is no rocket science. As others have said, the girls are in a more risky situation since they don't know what kind of a creep the guy might turn out to be. Just be confident, and polite. Thats all it takes.

    Treat it like you are walking up and talking to a new girl / lady at a big fat Indian wedding. We talk to a lot of people for the first time there, don't we? LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by PunjabiHorny  [View Original Post]
    Hopefully I would be careful the next time and make sure to get the better out of the game.

    I am a regular monger in Mumbai. Spas and Indies being the primary scene. Club pickup was new to me since I have never been to a club before.

  15. #27166
    Quote Originally Posted by SethiatSpace  [View Original Post]
    Be respectful, be clean, be nice. Enjoy.
    they're still there to work and make money but no need to be rude to them.
    That sums it up nicely. Be polite, wear clean clothes, smell good, and show respect.

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