Dubai Reports

[RedBaron2]

PM close to York.

Waiting for meeting a fellow ISG member, I wanted to try an MP.

Soon after York there are guys giving MP cards. They say 100 for 1 hour.

Ok, they bring me in a building close by on the main street. The glass door has a yellow frame and a red PULL sign on it.

Up to the 5th floor. On the desk name of the place: Kokonet massage. 100 is without oil (!) , ok 120 with oil.

I am shown a selection of 2 PRC. 1 Malaysian and 2 indians. I choose one tall PRC, name Lemon.

Nice strong massage, after 30 min she asks if I want a cock massage. I ask how much for BJ? She answers 400, I offer 200 she declines.

Handjob would be 200, I offer 100 and finally she accept. Quite good, slow and skillful.

TGIT Astoria hotel.

Waiting for the fellow, I go to see how TGIT is nowadays.

Few men, PRC, Black, Paki, CIS. Quality quite low. Beer 25-27. I meet a PRC friend of an old time GF I had here. She recognize me and we start chatting, she sits with me while I get some food. Jenny is petite, above the average quality of the place. Pretty face and nice rack, a fun girl around 40 years.

Being my friend late and the menu interesting, I take her back to the hotel.

Four points Sheraton in Bank street often don't even stop for I'd copy if you just walk straight to the elevator.

In the room, I find out her body looks younger than her age, quiet nice soft skin.

Shower together, very good deep kissing (difficult to find!) , long DATY (she comes strongly) , very good BBBJ. 69 and finish missionary.

Second shot would have been available, anal I do not know.

Summary: very good service, including good kissing. Would have been 500, but gave 600. PM for number.

The TGIT management from today is limiting PRC up to 5 girls only, so she might not be there anymore.

Tonight is the last. I will hunt for a Fili, perhaps at Ratsky. If anyone likes to join the hunt, contact me. (Max, I am still here)

Red

[Cons68]

On personal experience most WG's have refused me to pass their numbers to Arabs as they have normally complained of multiple issues. Yet when the same friends were with me. They had no issues.

That is the whole point, race is used as a proxy. Once the person is seen with a trusted party, then race is no longer an issue. We all agree with this, this is not blind racism.

Sorry to use the same example, but when Jenny meets Sylvan she does not see an Indian, she sees a friend of mine who plays the game with the same rules I do. Still another Indian guy whom I introduced was violently rejected because of the way he approached (Indian style)

I am sure Mo the Pro has no issues, and I could introduce him to any girl he was interested (but I am cheap bastard in comparison) but in general I would be wary of GCC nationals

When asked girls have never told me, I think,"only white people" but they have always said something like "only if he is like you"

Remember you only meet a handful of girls. Do not paint the town with the same brush.

I think there is quite a bunch of us so on aggregated we have interacted with a significative sample. Girls use race as a proxy, but a personal introduction will overcome this most of the time. Or being dressed properly, being showered... just try to think how would be for a girl, in a closed room with that guy naked...

I have started to use a similar technique while interviewing for my company and over last 6 months the atmosphere in my Dubai office has changed for good. I follow the new age policy broadly. You generalise. No job at my firm. Keeps the negativity out.

Good when you have 400 CVs you do not apply broad filters and give them your full, individualized attention. Good for you.

Has anybody witnessed Spanish girls increasing in UAE or it is just me.

Where? I can check if they are Spanish for you (if you mean the ads in cragilist not really) But yes, you should see more Spanish girls given the way economy is going

There is No difference, except in our hearts. Some people are mean and get a kick out of insulting or putting down other Nationalities. It massages their own short comings and insecurities.

Well, that is up to the girl to decide, if she thinks people of a certain origin are more likely to be unsafe I understand she prefers not to deal with them. She is literally risking her life when she walks past the door. As a Chinese girl once told me, "killing Chinese woman in Dubai is like killing a chicken"

And this is not different of me, for example, not taking African girls. I am racist, and respect other people's right to be racist. It saves time and reduces disappointment, it certainly looks like a win-win to me

The scene in UAE goes through its ups and downs, but Dxb seems to be finding its way back

It seems to be related to fairs and touristic activity, I suspect mongering may become a low-season activity, it is easier to be pickier and holier when the hotel rooms are full

TI am hoping the word will spread further and we will start to see more girls coming here like in 2007 and 2008. Anybody remember those good ol days.

Inshallah, a huge influx of starry-eyed nubile girls with blossoming bodies and a genetic trait for debauchery is just what the doctor ordered

I have also started to notice more LE action and it seems we are being watched more closely.

Please, please, please, this is a very important hint. If you are new here read DubaiMan's post (RoD) He was kind enough to think of the average ISG member and wrote it 3x so you only need to read once!!!

Also as the guy posting on craigslist copies and pastes post from here. My advice to you. Be careful. I know you are doing a great job, but you are leaving a massive electronic trail and could face consequences, especially since some fool is posting offensive religious messages. This will get attention from authorities. Beware.

Yes, there is someone in craiglist making references to ISG, never saw religious comments though. He is quite pissed off with all the Nigerian girls running scam. If you will allow me to generalize them to a single nationality

Lastly, when anybody goes for incall, be sensible. If I went for incall, always like to go with a friend. It is easier for 2 guys to get out instead of one. Though the percentage of girls mucking around is 2% to 3.

Actually a daily 2-3% risk means that after one month you have 60% chances of being dead. Given the stakes here that is simply too much, remember that any issue here may end up in jail and deportation. Again, I have to see a place where Chinese or Filis made any trouble, but you are free to consider that all girls are equal

[Rivendell14]

Even I am quite curious about it. Could you tell me where this bar is located and / or the phone numbers of the girls. I was trying to PM you but it seems it's not enabled at your end.

Man I think its easier for arabs picking up girls, price wise I mean.

I went to this joint called sun and sand or sand and wave or something along that line, picked up a gorgeous big titted morrocan chick for 600 LT.

Got her tunisian friends number and got her for the same price in the afternoon, nothing better than hung over sex.

They usually prefer arab men but the tunisian likes westerners because I asked her if its ok for a friend of mine to call her.

Later that a night a cute Russian bar girl (non pro) slipped me her number after eye fuckin me for a few hours, we hung out but nothing happened since I was leaving the next day and I never bothered calling / texting her again so I doubt she'll be happy to see me when I do come back to Dubai on st pattys day.

I've never had a black chick, where's a good place to pick them up in the afternoons?

I can't believe it either! May I have details by MP?

Can't believe a quality Moroccan or Tunisian chick would go for 600 LT! My Moroccan regular won't take less than 1, 500 ST (she is gorgeous 7-8 in my book) and have now even started quoting 2, 500 ST.

Let me know if you still have their numbers and if you could share them as I'll be in Dubai for one day this Friday.

Mo

[Buster F]

Mo the PRO, This ain't Disneyland. I don't know how you can say this as nothing to do with Race. I can tell you that ALL GIRLS I told I could pass their number to fellow members here, or friends told me the exact same sentence "Where are they from". And explaining me they don't go for gulf arabs pakistanese (violence, cheat) and sometime indians (hygiene).

Of course as you said, a crappy american will certainly pass behind a classy arab. But let stick to the middle man of all those "races" and the rules of myself or MAD Hater or Cons68 still apply.

I personally think this is really sad for some fellow here, who are indians or pakistanese, decent, educated and with a normal hygien to be discriminated by girls, but that's a fact, talk to girls (not the last girl staying at ratsky, but the girl who can afford to chose!) and you will have no other choice but to agree!

Classy Arab. Guess that's what you are! I hope I got that right mate. .

I would say this is a Disneyland in a lot of ways and we all men are here for a ride. A different kind of ride. .

Just like Disneyland, we have flavors from HK, Europe and US here. Though in most cases they may state from a certain country and turn out from another.

My experience only is limited to Premier where I have seen guys, well dressed and who know the game walking out with stunners whether they were Indians, Classy Arabs or Westerners. On the other hand, I have seen guys being turned down because they negotiated too hard or did not approach in the right manner. I see older Westerners being turned down, men who are fat normally struggle, but then others who fall in the criteria just woo the girl. I actually know a guy from Bangladesh, who scores more freebies with hot girls than anybody else as he plays the game well. On personal experience most WG's have refused me to pass their numbers to Arabs as they have normally complained of multiple issues. Yet when the same friends were with me. They had no issues.

Remember you only meet a handful of girls. Do not paint the town with the same brush.

I have started to use a similar technique while interviewing for my company and over last 6 months the atmosphere in my Dubai office has changed for good. I follow the new age policy broadly. You generalise. No job at my firm. Keeps the negativity out.

Has anybody witnessed Spanish girls increasing in UAE or it is just me.

[Member #4180]

dear buster,

despite not being the one starting on the subject, i think his is fair to say it is an interesting topic, particularly for people coming from abroad and knowing about those local hint for hunting in here.

i don't think it was the goal of anyone here trying to be superior or whatever (superior to pick up a pay girl, is somehow not a quality!) but agree or not, most quality girl who can afford choosing will tell you the same speech as described below. at least our friends from india or pakistanis coming here, knows they might need to make some effort to pick up a girl, ans most of all, those not showing respect to girl, might think of stoping cause they are making it more difficult for their country man to get the same girl.

all races have good ones and bad ones. i read each post with delight and liked the bit on how levant arab was put with westerners. brilliant. why are people always trying to prove themselves to be superior in uae. even more so on a website that wants to help fellow mongers. i can list down issues of terrible bad breath with westerners to body odours to few individuals having bad attitude. why do we start painting entire generations and millions by the same brush stroke. didn't education teach us that every individual is different and judge each on merit. if i rise above it all, i see everybody as one. human beings with different skin colors. each having its own issue like us whites always needing sun. there is no difference, except in our hearts. some people are mean and get a kick out of insulting or putting down other nationalities. it massages their own short comings and insecurities.

have a good night guys.

[Member #4180]

This new race importance to WG debate is as stupid as the debate members had awhile earlier about age. I have been around the block and back and I have never been with a girl that told me that she categorizes men by race first. Race is important but it's not the most important thing in any relationship or encounter between men and women even for WG.

IMHO, class is the most important thing for girls period. Wither you are Arab, Western, Indian, or even a freaking Bangladesh if you know how to carry yourself and you exude class then I'm sure no girl (working or otherwise) will turn you down because of your race maybe you were turned down because of other things. Every encounter has its uniqueness and generalizing on personal experiences is pointless.

What I wanted to say is that there are high class and low class people in every race and I'm sure that's not different for Westerners or Europeans, however, I do acknowledge that a bigger percentage of Westerners and Europeans in the Middle East are from the higher class when compared to other races here but do keep in mind that the higher class Arabs, Indians, and other races are on business trips and vacation in America and Europe and not in Dubai or Bahrain.

So here goes your comparison.

I'm sure a WG would rather be with a decent educated Arab or Indian as opposed to a redneck American even though the later is a Westerner.

My 2 cents.

Mo

Mo the PRO, This ain't Disneyland. I don't know how you can say this as nothing to do with Race. I can tell you that ALL GIRLS I told I could pass their number to fellow members here, or friends told me the exact same sentence "Where are they from". And explaining me they don't go for gulf arabs pakistanese (violence, cheat) and sometime indians (hygiene).

Of course as you said, a crappy american will certainly pass behind a classy arab. But let stick to the middle man of all those "races" and the rules of myself or MAD Hater or Cons68 still apply.

I personally think this is really sad for some fellow here, who are indians or pakistanese, decent, educated and with a normal hygien to be discriminated by girls, but that's a fact, talk to girls (not the last girl staying at ratsky, but the girl who can afford to chose!) and you will have no other choice but to agree!

[Member #4180]

Can't believe a quality Moroccan or Tunisian chick would go for 600 LT! My Moroccan regular won't take less than 1, 500 ST (she is gorgeous 7-8 in my book) and have now even started quoting 2, 500 ST.

Let me know if you still have their numbers and if you could share them as I'll be in Dubai for one day this Friday.

Mo

I can't believe it either! May I have details by MP?

[Buster F]

All races have good ones and bad ones. I read each post with delight and liked the bit on how levant Arab was put with Westerners. Brilliant. Why are people always trying to prove themselves to be superior in UAE. Even more so on a website that wants to help fellow mongers. I can list down issues of terrible bad breath with Westerners to body odours to few individuals having bad attitude. Why do we start painting entire generations and millions by the same brush stroke. Didn't education teach us that every individual is different and judge each on merit. If I rise above it all, I see everybody as one. Human beings with different skin colors. Each having its own issue like us Whites always needing sun. There is No difference, except in our hearts. Some people are mean and get a kick out of insulting or putting down other Nationalities. It massages their own short comings and insecurities.

Anyway, jumping to the main topic and the forum has actually grown tremendously in the last few weeks. Please do not start polluting it again. Let us please just stick to talking about our experiences, writing reviews on girls and talking about mongering.

The scene in UAE goes through its ups and downs, but Dxb seems to be finding its way back. I am hoping the word will spread further and we will start to see more girls coming here like in 2007 and 2008. Anybody remember those good ol days. I have also started to notice more LE action and it seems we are being watched more closely. Yet, if you keep the action behind closed doors, nobody will bother you, just make sure U-turn your TV or music, if you like screaming in pleasure. .

Also as the guy posting on craigslist copies and pastes post from here. My advice to you. Be careful. I know you are doing a great job, but you are leaving a massive electronic trail and could face consequences, especially since some fool is posting offensive religious messages. This will get attention from authorities. Beware.

Lastly, when anybody goes for incall, be sensible. If I went for incall, always like to go with a friend. It is easier for 2 guys to get out instead of one. Though the percentage of girls mucking around is 2% to 3.

Have a good night guys.

[ExpatNLookin]

Where did the Non-Gulf and Non-Levant Arabs go?

From my years of mongering, I have noticed the following.

Same as there is a pecking order for WGs in terms of price and perception, there exists one for punters as well.

In general WGs rate punters as below...

[ChimeraAlpha]

WR.

Congrats on the milestone.

The SMS was good. In touch with the subject. Meeting lined up shortly.

Sorry for waking you up so late in to wee hours.

Best Regards & Take Care.

Sylvan.

LOL MR that is a huge joke since she was shagging Indian mates last week, although not my Arab mates as they now better alternates

She will shag whatever she wants to as long as you have the cash gents, Was chatting to my Indian friend last night and he said she is OK but not the best now maybe as CS has said she is too commercial but each to his own flavour.

PS My 3000th FR. Time does fly when you have fun. And I started on the UAE board as well when the UAE was IMHO a tad better than today but again some may think otherwise

[Wicked Roger]

The Shooter has been shagging too many MILF's lately and on this occasion he really appreciated the experience of a fresh 24YO Fili bod. Soft skin, nice firm boobs and a pussy auto-response that dampened profusely from the Shooter's digital dexterity. This must be what Wicked Roger celebrates on the Philippines board.

The standard price for the joint is dh500. She refused to say how much was her cut. As the price was relatively high for such joints, the Shooter paid the standard price and did not leave any tip, and she did not request one. She seemed happy with that and asked the Shooter to return soon. He will oblige.

As he left, a Fili was ushering two smartly-dressed young Arab guys into the next apartment.

Yes Shooter very true but AED500 = around 6000 pesos which is a tad high for yummy college girls who are younger than 24 and more nubile and very bisexual LOL

[Mjolnir 213]

I'm sure a WG would rather be with a decent educated Arab or Indian as opposed to a redneck American even though the later is a Westerner.

My 2 cents.

Mo

Fully agree with this.

That being said, I think the other's are just trying to point out generalizations made by many of the girls. I think most of us are guilty of the same to some extent as well.

On a one to one basis though, it comes down to manners, charm, appearance and not being a douchebag.

This has usually worked well for me.

In my early days I admit I was young and inexperienced. I got shot down a few times for what I thought were solely race related reasons. I now put that down more to my lack of "game" at the time.

[Mjolnir 213]

It's been a while since I've posted, but it's good to be back!

With Mrs. WB and WB junior away on vacation, I thought I would start my bachelor days with a convenient option.

My Ninja skills are a bit rusty having been away from the game for so long so easing into things seemed the sensible thing to do.

Texted a reliable fili pimpette that has always provided me with good girls and she remembered me well.

Rather than sending pictures which can often set the wrong expectations IMHO, I just told her to send someone she thought was right for me.

We agreed on 9 PM, ST 600 AED (2 or 3 hours) , and if I liked the girl, I might keep her all night. (AED 1500)

Considering that this was a quality home delivery, I was ok with the negotiated rates.

The original plan was that the girl would come directly to my place. I thought twice and decided it would be better to meet her at a nearby bar first to break the ice and take it from there. Plus. 9 PM was too early to sneak her into my apartment unnoticed by security or friendly neighbors.

Turned out to be a good call in the end.

At around 8 30 a shy, tiny and sweet sounding voice called to inform me she was in a taxi on the way to my place.

Spoke to the driver and asked him to drop her off at a hotel nearby that has a decent bar with good live music.

15 minutes later she called to say she had reached the hotel. I was on my way and told her to just go into the bar and I would find her there.

Upon arrival, I saw a nervous looking, fair skinned, cute and surprisingly tall filipina at the door. Was not sure it was her so went in first.

Called her from inside the bar and, yes, that was her outside. She came in shortly after and joined me at my table.

We had a couple of drinks, enjoyed watching the band and got comfortable with each other.

Within the first 30 minutes, she was giggling at my tall tales and making plenty of physical contact which is always a good sign. Very sweet personality and a slightly cheeky sense of humor once she is comfortable.

Apparently she has been in DXB for 5 months and works as a waitress.

Quite young too. I would guess 23 or 24 at most. Looks wise, she is cute rather than pretty and has some moderate puppy fat which I don't mind from time to time. Very sweet and was appreciative that I took her out to a nice bar.

Ice successfully broken we then proceeded to casa WB.

It was around 11:30 by this time and I was in no rush. On the other hand, she was feeling frisky after the 2 bullfrogs and Long Island Ice tea.

Lots of making out before we both got naked. Was happy to see that she had a very nice body and the nice firm see cups.

While I have been with plenty of filipinas in the past, she has to be the tallest one yet with lovely long legs and a nice curvy figure. (Sorry, but no pics to share. Use your imagination!)

The first session was great with plenty of DFK, BBJ and all kinds of other good stuff. Total GFE, which is exactly what I wanted.

A short break, quick cleanup and then into round two.

I noticed that she was getting more adventurous and this second round was much more intense and rough. This set her off like a rocket and she was really in to the hair pulling, spanking and dirty talk.

Ended up snuggling naked on the couch and falling asleep both content in the afterglow.

4 AM and she wakes up wanting water.

That leads to another early morning session and then we retired to the bedroom.

8 AM and I wake up with a throbbing hard on and gave her a good wake up pounding.

Then shower, quick tidy up and sent her on her way.

All in all a really good time with no complaints whatsoever.

The good thing is that she is available most nights seeing as she only starts work at 1 PM.

Will negotiate a better deal directly with her and she will be a regular on my roster in the coming weeks.

Tonight I may do a recce at Sea View and a couple of other places to scope the talent.

From recent accounts, I am not overly optimistic when it comes to quality.

If I'm not impressed, I will simply call my pimpette friend again and arrange something different for tomorrow night.

The initial introduction might be expensive, however I think the convenience and the fact that she delivers the goods consistently is a plus.

Subsequent meetings are arranged directly with the girls so you eliminate the management overheads.

Many are not full time pros or bar girls and only moonlight occasionally when in need of extra cash.

Oh, and another thing. I find Tagged to be a complete waste of time for me. Mostly a bunch of ugly older women and the rest are either fakes or cock teasers.

There are the obvious WG's on there as well, however none of them seem to be any better than the quality you find in the bars. I can't be bothered with it.

And in closing, I saw an absolute stunner in the bar we were in last night (CityMax Barsha). Maybe filipina or Thai from the looks. I would rate her at least a 9.

She was alone the whole time we were there and a few old wrinkly guys tried approaching but were shot down. My guess is that she was a WG judging by the fruit juice she was nursing for all of 2 hours. This requires further investigation.

There were also a few africans and stanis in attendance but nothing stand out.

With 2 more weeks left, I should be able to get those rusty Ninja skills back to razor sharp condition.

Later,

WB

[Mo The Pro]

This new race importance to WG debate is as stupid as the debate members had awhile earlier about age. I have been around the block and back and I have never been with a girl that told me that she categorizes men by race first. Race is important but it's not the most important thing in any relationship or encounter between men and women even for WG.

IMHO, class is the most important thing for girls period. Wither you are Arab, Western, Indian, or even a freaking Bangladesh if you know how to carry yourself and you exude class then I'm sure no girl (working or otherwise) will turn you down because of your race maybe you were turned down because of other things. Every encounter has its uniqueness and generalizing on personal experiences is pointless.

What I wanted to say is that there are high class and low class people in every race and I'm sure that's not different for Westerners or Europeans, however, I do acknowledge that a bigger percentage of Westerners and Europeans in the Middle East are from the higher class when compared to other races here but do keep in mind that the higher class Arabs, Indians, and other races are on business trips and vacation in America and Europe and not in Dubai or Bahrain.

So here goes your comparison.

I'm sure a WG would rather be with a decent educated Arab or Indian as opposed to a redneck American even though the later is a Westerner.

My 2 cents.

Mo

[Mad Hatter]

From my years of mongering, I have noticed the following.

Same as there is a pecking order for WGs in terms of price and perception, there exists one for punters as well.

In general WGs rate punters as below (based on many conversations and observations).

Top Tier. Westerners (with the US and Western Europeans. Thanks to the heavy influx of businessmen and tourists they are also perceived as more willing to pay higher rates, generally stay in better digs and are also less trouble.

Tier 2. Eastern Europeans, Turks, Levant Arabs. Generally viewed as a pretty decent lot but a bit more stingy than Western Europeans.

Now the next 3 tiers are interchangeable with depending on a case by case basis.

Tier 3. Indians. Indians are viewed as less trouble. Might be cheap but generally don't make too much trouble and are not too misogynistic or abusive. OF course you jump a couple of tiers if you are a well dressed western educated Indian and if they get good vibes from you. But bad hygiene. Which is very prevalent among Indians will drop them to the bottom of the ladder.

Tier 4. Pakistanis & Gulf Arabs. While Hygiene is generally better among the Gulf Arabs, they are perceived as cheats, misogynistic and prone to abuse and violence. A few of my regulars have unequivocally said that nothing will make them go with a Gulf Arab. Pakistanis too are viewed as having the potential to abuse but a lot of them come with the same hygiene problem as Indians.

Of course with Tier 3 and 4, a good attitude, good hygiene, manners and a slight amount of "westernisation" makes them jump up to tier 1 and 2 on a case by case basis.

And if any of you get offended by the above, just note. I hate all races equally.

Above all, my point is this guys.

The same way that we like a good attitude, hygiene and service, the girls too would like the same from us. Of course there are exceptions to the rule (and not trying to generalise but I have never had one good experience with Africans. Too prone to cheating) but in general give good and you will get good.