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  1. #2391
    Quote Originally Posted by Piper1
    Krypto - not so much an interesting experiment - more like a proven methodology. Cannot PM you the websites, because you don't have PM.
    Fair enough Piper. It's probably time I join as a full member. I'll do so in the next couple days and PM you with the question again.

    Thanks.

    Krypto Knight

  2. #2390

    When is a pro not a pro?

    Quote Originally Posted by Funfor Females
    please tread carefully and remember that these girls are Semi pro at best and all have respectable day jobs. A bit of subtlty and charm will do you no harm.
    F4F, loved your FR. A good read and nice pics to fill in the gaps!

    Actually it got the tired old grey cells working because I was intrigued by the notion of semi-pro girls and the need to “tread carefully”. Not uniquely because of your FR but also because I have come across WGs that prefer not to be considered as prostitutes. Although I know the Harvesters and have enjoyed many an evening watching football and getting merry, I have never tried to pull civilians or pro’s there as being on ‘lads nights out’, it never really occurred to me to do so at the time.

    I am wondering whether the more neutral backdrop of these pubs and the allusion that the girls project that they are not prostitutes somehow distorts our own perception of them.

    For example:
    This week, I went with a WG from Seaview. She insisted that she worked as a hairdresser in a salon, which I have no reason to disbelieve. She is taking her driving test and intends to buy a car. To all intents and purposes, a respectable girl in a perfectly respectable job. My perception of her however, is that of a fully fledged WG. If I had had a similar experience with her in the Harvesters or Longs, would I have had the same perception or would I have labelled her a moonlighting hairdresser or semi-pro?

    In Abu Dhabi, I went with a girl I met in a café of all places. She was looking for a proper job and needed money to live. If it had been limited to just that one time with me then it would have been inaccurate to categorise her as a WG. After all one swallow doesn’t make a summer* - the reality is that she finally found work in a pharmacy but still occasionally does a trick to make ends meet yet she swears that she is not a pro.

    Out of all the WGs I have been with, I would count very few who are died-in-the-wool pros, i.e. detached from any human emotion, just businesswomen delivering a service for as much as she can, as often as she can. Many of them do it as a means to an end – an escape from impoverishment – and quite a few do it to supplement their meagre wages in the civilian job place. As such, shouldn’t we tread carefully with all WG’s as they are just as valid as the next human being trying to get by?

    Should 'semi-pros' be approached any differently to any other WG? A rose by any other name smells just as sweet*. Isn’t a girl accepting money for sex on a continual basis a pro - not a semi pro, regardless of what she does during the day? Do we have to be more sensitive about how we go about introducing the subject of expectation or payment thereof – just because she has a daytime job? Have I missed the point?

    Answers on a postcard please OR provide the smuttiest pun on these idioms*.

    EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

  3. #2389
    Quote Originally Posted by Funfor Females
    Just an additional note regarding the semi pro PRCs from Harvester and Longs Bar. The stunner I described in the post is remarkably camera shy, for obvious reasons, like she has a good job and is really only an enthusiastic Pro/Am.
    FFF - nice report and pics. Harvesters is a good place for occasional action. Some of the Rattlesnake girls go there if Rattler is too crowded and they feel like a quieter venue. It has a relaxed and quiet outdoor area, sky-high with great views over Sheikh Zayed Rd, and you can actually have a conversation. Prices for WGs around same as Rattler/York etc, but you obviously know that already.

    I'm a little cautious about the "I'm not a WG but give me money for sex" story, as it's often a white-lie, designed to extract a premium from the punter.
    _______

    Grateful Spread - well done again. Inexpensive home-style accommodation for the night, with a hot cutie and a hot malted drink thrown in for good measure. Next you'll also be expecting breakfast in bed as part of the deal!
    ______

    Vesta - I agree with Grateful S. - excellent report on a rarely reported Deira-side place. The few reports on Broadway have always been very positive - many exotic girls dressed in erotic black abayas , right at your doorstep, along with reasonable prices and hot experiences. I'll give it a try one night soon.

  4. #2388

    More on Semi Pro PRC

    just an additional note regarding the semi pro prcs from harvester and longs bar.

    the stunner i described in the post is remarkably camera shy, for obvious reasons, like she has a good job and is really only an enthusiastic pro/am.

    however, have a peek at my post in the photo gallery to get a modest taste of the class and quality.

    have fun but be kind and sensitive.

  5. #2387

    Seaview at last!

    In spite of being a very busy beaver in kicking off 2007, I was missing too much my favourite pastime to let work get in the way - but for various reasons I’m trying to cool things down a bit in AUH.

    And so yesterday I made a special trip to Dubai to follow W.R.’s advice to check out Seaview. It felt deliciously seedy as I took the Seaview’s side door in the lobby to the skanky looking joint round the back. Two humourless brutes were in charge of manning the door with a Dhs 50 entrance fee and 2 drinks included. My initially high expectations were only marginally dampened by the fog of smoke that stung the eyes and had me running to the relatively smoke-free far end of the tiny club. Lots of PRCs and a couple of Africans were dancing to the decent Filipino 8 piece Rock n Roll ensemble. Perhaps it was too early but no flippers were apparent as of 10:30. The clientele was mostly western and a gang of Filipino lads who were celebrating with large jugs of beer.

    A cute petite PRC advanced. Normally prefer my women to be duskier but she had a lovely pair of jubblies and looked as though she knew how to pleasure a punter. Come to think of it she resembled descriptions that I had read in an earlier FR on Seaview. Mainly because of language difficulties we drifted apart. I approached an equally cute African who looked as though she would suck me dry and spit out the remains. She lived in Baraha and very confidently declared that we would be going back to her room that night. I wasn’t going to disagree but I am a bit cautious of Baraha as it has been the scene of the majority of my previous DXB adventures and certain girls who lay claim to my fidelity (for some weird reason). She was from Togo and was keen to show me a copy of her ID to prove it. Another first for the record! The quest for flippers would again have to wait!

    Back at hers, she had asked me to pay up front but I reasoned that I was trustworthy and that payment would be commensurate with performance (I didn’t confess that the scale started at Dhs500 and slid downwards). Reluctantly she agreed. I would urge all punters to resist demands for full payment up front. I know that the fear of spoiling the flow through confrontation may encourage us to give in to their demands but if it’s handled with tact and sincerity then she will be far more incentivised to do that much more to satisfy - And as many of us can testify to, the alternative is so often (with a few rare exceptions) a lacklustre performance.

    She wouldn’t do BJ or anal but loved long tonguey snogs and she purred when I licked her pussy and inched down for Beso Negro. She had that fabulous African musky smell and taste, which is just the best aphrodisiac. The first shag was wild and sweaty and she literally cried with lust. Shags two, three and four were progressively longer and less frenetic but still blissful. Not much sleep but on a bang for buck basis, very good VFM.

    At about 9am she made me a cup of hot, sweet, malted drink: very welcome boost to energy/hydration levels and which I used as my cue to leave. I gave her Dhs500 and a Dhs25 mobile top-up card, which seemed to make her happy - and a good deal for me given that I managed to stay in Dubai again without the expense of a hotel room.

    On my exit, paranoia convinced me that the curtains were twitching in a dozen rooms as I sped down the street and slipped quickly past the Marhaba Hotel to hail a cab.

    EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

  6. #2386

    Semi Pro PRC Stunners Again - Longs Bar / Harvester

    Hell it is good to be back. I've only been travelling for a month but it feels like an eternity.

    However, there was good news awaiting.

    I wrote last year of a small group of A+ PRC stunners (Very classy) who were vaguely semi-pro and leaning towards enthusiastic amatuer status. (With the emphasis on enthusiasm! )

    Well, upon my return from warm, dry, miserable and inhospitable climes, where nobody has a sense of humour, I called for a livener at Longs on the way back from the airport.

    To my indescribable delight I spotted one of the PALS (PRC. 'A'. List. Stunners). Wonderful news.

    I had a word with Miss Z, who seemed as pleased to see me as I was to see her. It transpires that she and her fellow enthusiasts have taken to freqenting Longs and the Harvester (Crown Plaza) in an attempt to dissasociate themselves from the WG hoards.

    Miss 'Z' was wearing a super short little red number which revaled seamed stockings when she exhaled. Talk about distracting, my Guiness came close to spontanious effervescence overflowing its glass.

    The lady in red did her usual extravagent dance routine (Showing off) for a while and spread her conversation around 3 or 4 keen observers finally settling on a visiting mercheant seaman (Brit) to be her beau for the night.

    Having had a jolly good kip and recovered from my travels I headed for the Harvester the following night to find that it ws Karioki night which did not inspire me with enthusiasm.

    However, every cloud has a sliver lining, and bugger me if Miss Z and her mate didn't turn up 15 minutes later and head for the stage wearing the flirtiest little mini skirts I have seen in a long time.

    We were treated to 3 vocal renditions of very reasonable quality before the pair split up and worked the room like diplomatic veterans. Shaking hands, smiling, pocketing business cards and exchnging mobile numbers. It was a delight to behold!

    But everything has its limits and voyeurism wears thin very quickly, I find.

    So it was a couple of Red Bulls for the lady, 0. 25 Imperial Galloons of the black stuff for me, and away hame (as the jocks say) for the dirty deed.

    Absolutely tremendous. And strongly recommended. But please tread carefully and remember that these girls are Semi pro at best and all have respectable day jobs. A bit of subtlty and charm will do you no harm.

    EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

  7. #2385

    Ksa -

    Quote Originally Posted by Piper1
    Well, come and join me in Riyadh - a monger's paradise.....Will try to get a night off for fun (and there is fun to be had). ...
    Welcome to my home hunting ground for the last year..... Even the well seasoned Mongateer, has single handedly failed to monger there..... I do hope you are able to find fun of the x-x types not the x-y types...

    If so please do let me know how I could get on the scene....

    all fuck one and one fuck all!

    M

  8. #2384

    Massage Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Shooter
    Is it just me or are the ladies becoming very skilled at negotiating? Had an afternoon visit to an MP where the masseuse spent the 1st 15 minutes of the 60-min session trying to explain why dh500 is a reasonable price (she started at 1k).
    Double Shooter, at the next massage parlor, try this.

    After you pick the girl, before you give her the 100 AED for the room, negotiate your price.

    Before I give the 100, I tell them I will give them 200 addtional for full service that should include BBBJ and FS. If they start to "negotiatiate" I head for the door. Now they don't have 100 for the room so you are in the position of negotiating power.

    There's plenty of other establishments to move onto so even if she calls your bluff you can move on to a better deal.

  9. #2383
    Quote Originally Posted by Piper1
    Lucky man! I haven't given up yet - just managing time for a daily email exchange and phone call to keep her on the backburner until I return from the land of mongering fun (Saudi Arabia) next week.
    May I ask where you guys are posting your "ads", as in what site, if that's postale information.

    Interesting experiment.

    Kryptoknight

  10. #2382

    MPs

    Quote Originally Posted by Double Shooter
    I occasionally enjoy a regular massage, now that you can get females to perform them. The question of whether extra services might be offered adds an extra frisson to the experience.

    I tried the "4-hands" massage at the House of Chi. Absolutely delightful and absolutely above board. Sadly none of the 4 hands went astray at any point.

    Any reccos from the members?
    Places like House of Chi and Chinese Emirates Clinic (Al Ain centre - opp Shoe Mart in Bur Dubai) offer very good massage service period. No extra services whatsoever. If you are looking for extra services check out Gulf News Classified Section under Norther Emirates. Many phone numbers there but not really legit and hence venture at your own risk. Quality of the Massage is quite low compared to House of Chi etc. Rate 100 dhs for the Massage 100 dhs tips for the Girl for her hands and body to go astray.

    Cheers,

    Tony

  11. #2381

    Good job Vesta!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vesta293
    I then moved to the Broadway Hotel in Rigga St. AED500 a night with very attentative staff. After checkin and a shower I went downstairs to the coffee shop where there must have been 50+WG all middle eastern flavours, with a few CIS and Turks for good measure. I just love the way they all come into the hotel dressed in black robes, but underneath, short skirts, tight tops.... I chatted with a CIS long legged blonde who quoted AED250 for 1 shot, so off we went to my room. Me first in the lift, she second after registering at the back stairs.

    Over the next few days, tasted Turk, Lebanese, Syrian, Armenian and Iranian, the most I paid was AED500 for about 6 hours.

    EDITOR'S NOTE: [red]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.
    Nice FR! It's good to hear about new venues and experiences. Even included the prices. Look forward to the next one.

  12. #2380
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Bunny
    I am there for exactly 20 hours (of which I need too sleep and work)
    You can sleep on the plane...

    ========================

    Normally you'd think if I was writing an FR at 1:45AM, it'd be a negative report. But sometimes things just work out better than you could have planned.

    I'd told Miss 3 I'd see her Friday, LT. Feeling a bit drained from Miss T's visit Thursday, but still... a promise is a promise, and Miss 3, while not the GFE, is fun.

    Called her up, I'd meet her 8:30, her place. I did notice her voice was a bit more husky than normal. Sure enough, on pickup, she was coughing away, and she doesn't smoke (cigarettes, anyway ). Her line of work, no sick days with pay, so... I had some empathy.

    Back to my place, I watched some tv, she... slept. Hmmm, this was NOT turning out like I planned, especially given the movies I was watching, while I liked, I'd seen them before and was watching them again as I thought she might like. Her stock was declining...

    Off goes the tv, to the bedroom, she wakes up... very nice. I will say she has to work on the massage, but other skills quite nice. Stock back up.

    It turned out that due to some late developments and early morning responsibilities and errands I had to run, it would actually work out better if she did not spend the night. If I wanted a morning wakeup, it would be an EARLY wakeup, and given Thursday night's workout, plus tonight's... sleep had the preference. I explained that I had to get up early, so I could either run her home, or she could stay the night, but it'd be an early morning wakeup.

    Call me the fool, but given it was MY decision to curtail the evening, I was all ready to give her my normal LT fee of 500. It was for MY convience that she was leaving early. Having planned this, I did have that 500 bill in the wallet. But before I could hand it over, she said that she had to get up at 3am anyway - 4am visa run. Normally, I would have been HIGHLY IRKED to find out only AFTER we'd gotten home that a date had to leave early (mentioned beforehand, then it's MY decision on what to do). After all, if I pull LT, I expect LT. That the salary would be cut goes without saying, but also there's a loss of goodwill.

    But in this case - fine, to both parties' benefit that the date was ST. Raced to the atm to get some hundred's; I felt perfectly fine handing over 300 plus a 50 tip (that 2nd shot tonight did take some effort on her part, but she's a real pro, never giving up...). She made some money; I saved some money. Worked out for both of us.

  13. #2379
    Quote Originally Posted by Sporadic
    This is a (not comprehensive) list of controlled drugs that could catch you out...
    http://uae.usembassy.gov/restricted_medication_.html
    Yes, Tadafil, Viagra, levitra, ciallis not on that list. Nor is penicillin. All things supposely banned.

    I am surprised they allow asprin, paracetamol and ibuprofen.

    Citalopram (a harmless non-mood altering non halucenogenic antidepressant) is actually banned. Which means since the drug stays in your system for months afterwards, according to these posts could get you jail, even if you stop before you enter the country, then get a doctor to prescribe them to you when you arrive.

    Virtually barbaric if you ask me.

  14. #2378
    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo
    One way to avoid the RTFF reply... But why bother asking if you have no time to enjoy?

    =====================

    To the "too busy's", the "don't want to leave the hotels": While it is VERY possible to have entertainment arrive on your doorstep, you do have to pay your dues: hit the clubs for an hour or two, collect a few phone numbers, and pull one. Then, subsequent nights, just start dialing...

    It's so easy here, but it's not a welfare state...
    I hope I had more time. I am there for exactly 20 hours (of which I need too sleep and work)

    Anyway, thanks.

    I hope I have much more time next time.

  15. #2377
    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo
    One way to avoid the RTFF reply... But why bother asking if you have no time to enjoy?

    =====================

    To the "too busy's", the "don't want to leave the hotels": While it is VERY possible to have entertainment arrive on your doorstep, you do have to pay your dues: hit the clubs for an hour or two, collect a few phone numbers, and pull one. Then, subsequent nights, just start dialing...

    It's so easy here, but it's not a welfare state...
    I hope I had more time. I am there for exactly 20 hours (of which I need too sleep and work)

    Anyway, thanks.

    I hope I have much more time next time

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