Dubai Reports

[ArisCasa]

What is POM and RTFF?

For one you can read the abbreviations link on main page of this site to know and or yes always "read the fucking forum" (RTFF) before asking! Which means go back few pages and read thru, plenty of info on most threads.

[Blood Red]

I believe Moscow does allow outsiders).

P.S. Want to book Sheraton Creek today. Latest colours?

Thanks Nickc.

Moscow does indeed allow visitors free of charge. They actually have a pretty discreet process with regards to registering girls as girls can come up directly to your room after getting their ID scanned. If you are accompanying the girl, the security guy will politely ask you both to stand to the side and he will take the girls ID for the receptionist to scan it and you're done. They know people mostly stay there for punting, although I did see some families there which I found odd.

So I'm in Dubai right now and haven't engaged in our hobby all that much except for the Algerian MP re-visit (was decent at best, not sure if I will repeat) and bumped into my old Irani regular that I hadn't banged in over 3 months, so spent a few hours with her in my room.

Guys, any suggestions on where to find Arab girls other than Moroccans and Syrians? I think these are the 2 main Arab WG categories in Dubai so would be keen to know where to find Egyptian, Lebanese or even Iraqi girls. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Other than that, Coochini at Khaleej Palace Hotel in Deira has re-opened, so another joint for Irani pussy and their food is good too.

[Zhao28]

Hello everyone!

I have booked my flight to Dubai, I will be there starting 12th January.

Anyone can give me some advice on which area is best to book a hotel room for getting WGs?

I believe all the fun happens in Deira, at Moscow hotel clubs, and nearby?

I also read that Ayoush restaurant is a good spot to get WGs?

Also, I would like to book girls from MR, are the girls from there trustworthy?

If you stay in that hotel you can only find girls in that hotel.

The girls in MR won't be able to visit you because this guest doesn't allow it.

[SpeedoGhost]

On another note, I saw some Filipinas going in and out of the night club in York Hotel. I did get a drink the the bar of York hotel and the only girls there were some butt ugly last their prime Africans. Thinking that quality would be low in the night club I did not enter. I saw some post that the scene in York is now dead. Is it worth venturing inside York's nightclub? Do normal people go there or are all girls there pros?

York nightclub is certainly not what it used to be but still worth a look. Predominantly Viets, Ethiopians and less attractive FSU / Stanis but there's some diamonds in the rough, especially if you go during the week. The rates are in the dhs 700 to 1,000 for all night. & yes, all the girls there are working, either directly or as mamasans. Not a place to take your wife or GF.

The downstairs bar is a bear pit, most mongers have stumbled in there by mistake. Search for Tool Shedd earliest Dubai posts. But can be an experience and good karma to buy the girls there the occasional drink, they can't get much trade.

On a similar note, anyone been to StayinAlive at the Imperial recently? There was a time (long long ago) when it was actually a pretty decent hangout.

Speedo.

[Sonyc 08]

Put this up as ROD. Sony see 08 please read this report for answers!

Sorry I missed that. Will give a try Czar or Moscow places and see how it goes.

[MariUK171]

Check the POM again and RTFF as so much info on this board that can help answer your questions.

Happy hunting.

What is POM and RTFF?

[Snow1998]

Girls and managers are used to that. They preset a high price just in case it might work all knowing too well that most punters will negotiate. It's not rocket science and practice helps, there's no magic formula but a few tricks can help. I am more of an AMP / MR guy but I think principles work anywhere. The most important thing, is to do your homework (aka RTFF).

Put this up as ROD. Sony see 08 please read this report for answers!

[Wicked Roger]

Hello everyone!

I have booked my flight to Dubai, I will be there starting 12th January.

Anyone can give me some advice on which area is best to book a hotel room for getting WGs?

I believe all the fun happens in Deira, at Moscow hotel clubs, and nearby?

I also read that Ayoush restaurant is a good spot to get WGs?

Also, I would like to book girls from MR, are the girls from there trustworthy?

Check the POM again and RTFF as so much info on this board that can help answer your questions.

Happy hunting.

[Sonyc 08]

In Moscow hotel night club Red Square every girl is a Working girl except the Mamasans who are managing some group of girls. Normal girls do not go there even with their boyfriends. All are there for take though few will act as if they are waiting for their oligarch to come and pay them top dollars. You can go and talk to any girl you like. They will not approach you. You have to make first move. They will start with 2000 plus for a night but will come down to around 1000-1500 for the full night which is upto say 7 am in the morning. You can also talk about what it includes like DFK, BJ, multiple shots etc.

Getting the dancers is a longer game but everything is possible. They are normally on Hotel's visa and accommodation. Their movements are restricted. You need to spend more time in the club and focus only on particular dancer. Listen to her songs and tip her well. But like I said it is long game and be prepared to throw lot of money and you may not get what you want.

Are these girls open for 2-3 hrs max? What would they agree on in terms of tariffs? I guess 1000?

I only used MR so far and you know what they expect.

[MariUK171]

Hello everyone!

I have booked my flight to Dubai, I will be there starting 12th January.

Anyone can give me some advice on which area is best to book a hotel room for getting WGs?

I believe all the fun happens in Deira, at Moscow hotel clubs, and nearby?

I also read that Ayoush restaurant is a good spot to get WGs?

Also, I would like to book girls from MR, are the girls from there trustworthy?

[Blood Red]

Joe is a legend. He is very helpful and patient with guys who contribute and he along with some other seniors have kept this forum going strong and interesting.

The search for the gems continues as also for the whoppers. We hope to see you back in the field after the booster vaccine.

There have been times when a girl has asked about the friend who referred her and I have used the magic words 'Joe' and it has worked every time. Some of the gems like V just love him. I know of cases where he has helped many of them in bad times.

I nominate him to the ISG Hall of Fame.

He is indeed a very helpful Gentleman. I remember back all the way to maybe 2014 when I was a newbie to Dubai and posting mostly in Bahrain forum and Joe was nice enough to suggest an AMP on Rigga Road where I got a decent experience from a Moroccan MILF.

[BroScientist]

In Moscow hotel night club Red Square every girl is a Working girl except the Mamasans who are managing some group of girls. Normal girls do not go there even with their boyfriends. All are there for take though few will act as if they are waiting for their oligarch to come and pay them top dollars. You can go and talk to any girl you like. They will not approach you. You have to make first move. They will start with 2000 plus for a night but will come down to around 1000-1500 for the full night which is upto say 7 am in the morning. You can also talk about what it includes like DFK, BJ, multiple shots etc.

Getting the dancers is a longer game but everything is possible. They are normally on Hotel's visa and accommodation. Their movements are restricted. You need to spend more time in the club and focus only on particular dancer. Listen to her songs and tip her well. But like I said it is long game and be prepared to throw lot of money and you may not get what you want.

On another note, I saw some Filipinas going in and out of the night club in York Hotel. I did get a drink the the bar of York hotel and the only girls there were some butt ugly last their prime Africans. Thinking that quality would be low in the night club I did not enter. I saw some post that the scene in York is now dead. Is it worth venturing inside York's nightclub? Do normal people go there or are all girls there pros?

[BroScientist]

In Moscow hotel night club Red Square every girl is a Working girl except the Mamasans who are managing some group of girls. Normal girls do not go there even with their boyfriends. All are there for take though few will act as if they are waiting for their oligarch to come and pay them top dollars. You can go and talk to any girl you like. They will not approach you. You have to make first move. They will start with 2000 plus for a night but will come down to around 1000-1500 for the full night which is upto say 7 am in the morning. You can also talk about what it includes like DFK, BJ, multiple shots etc.

Getting the dancers is a longer game but everything is possible. They are normally on Hotel's visa and accommodation. Their movements are restricted. You need to spend more time in the club and focus only on particular dancer. Listen to her songs and tip her well. But like I said it is long game and be prepared to throw lot of money and you may not get what you want.

Thanks for explaining. I would give the dancers a pass then and try to find some fitness model types on MR. Too many fish in the sea to start throwing money with the hope of getting lay.

Next time I go to Red Square I will be a little more brave in approaching the girls. I did see some fat older women hanging out with the goons which I presume are mamasans. What is the role of the mamasans? Do they get a cut like bar fine from the client or from the girl when she is back?

The girl I took asked me multiple times to come back to the club after I fucked her in my hotel. She said as you already paid for. Cover just come back and hang out with me. I wasn't sure if it was for drinks (cuts for her from club) or just to entice me to get another one of her friends for round two. Pretty sure she was going to go back to the club and was going to try to find another client. I was just too tired to go out again in a cab. That's why I am going to find a hotel in walking distance to Moscow this time.

I don't want to give the vibe being a total newbie the next time I go in, but it is probably easier said than done. They have surely seen many like me before and sniff it out easily. Would going from table to table where girls are seated in groups while negotiating would look weird? I also don't want to buy whole lot of $30 drinks for girls I am not going to go with. Wonder if there will e pressure for lady drinks.

What is the going rate for two shots and 4 hours for girls from Red Square? I don't really care for overnights and would probably sleep better knowing I don't have a pro sleeping next to me who may or may not swipe my things.

[Plush Tiger]

My question to you pros is, how do you negotiate with girls? Is it a case of abundance mentality where if negotiations fail with one you just move to the next available girl?

Girls and managers are used to that. They preset a high price just in case it might work all knowing too well that most punters will negotiate. It's not rocket science and practice helps, there's no magic formula but a few tricks can help. I am more of an AMP / MR guy but I think principles work anywhere. The most important thing, is to do your homework (aka RTFF). There's aplenty of info on negotiating (check the Sugar Life, MR and AMPS threads as well) but also about the going rates in all sorts of situations for many nationalities and clubs. You can start by stating that the price is too high. Most of them will either cut it down or ask you to make an offer. Don't low ball them too much otherwise they will think you're wasting their time. If they open at 1500 don't counter at 200. You can also just ask what you could get for a certain amount. For instance if they say 1 k, ask what you could get for or 700. Make sure not to share too much info about yourself such as the hotel or the area where you stay, your nationality etc. They use it as a proxy to evaluate our ability to pay. A good trick if you're from a rich country is to try exotic countries or countries with lower income. For instance some Brits gladly say they are South African etc. The moment when you negotiate is also important, if the night is young on a Friday evening, you'll have less bargaining power than on Monday night at 3:00 AM with a ratio in favor of punters. The "deal structuring" is important as well, maybe more than the price itself. For instance make sure that you mention the services you want such as uncovered BJ, DATY, or A_level, the service duration etc. When it's your first time with a girl rather avoid LT and limit yourself to ST with the option to upgrade if you like the performance. This thread is fraught with complaints from punter who paid for long term to find themselves paying the girl to leave after the first shot. I even suspect some WGs to voluntarily give a bad service to be released early and go back to fish another punter. Once the money is in their purse, they have all the incentives to do that and most of them would. But most of all just practice. It's normal to haggle a bit and the worst you could get is a no and then it's still up to you to pay their asked price. You can also practice with one or two girls you're not really interested in so that it gives you a sense of the going rate in this particular place for a given nationality. Managers and girl seeing you talking around and gathering information will be wary of the competition and know that they'd rather not try to rake up their prices too much. Always be polite and if some appear to be rude don't waste your energy with them, there's plenty of fish in the sea.

[Joe Karnavic]

Oh, one other thing. On my first and only night at Moscow nightclub, only some of the girls blew me a kiss or winked at me as they walked to and from the ladies bathroom. It was clear that they were working girls. There were lots of tables of girls sitting in groups. Before I got the girl I brought to my hotel that night I said Hi to a table of girls chatting and smoking together. A couple of them said Hi back to me. I didn't talk much to them. I was terrified of getting beaten up by the Bratva looking goons as k had never been in such a scenario before. Now when I think about it, they were probably working girls. Am I right?
On another note, can you get the dancers who dance in stage in Moscow nightclub? The legs of a few of them really caught my attention, and I am a sucker for girls with ripped legs.

In Moscow hotel night club Red Square every girl is a Working girl except the Mamasans who are managing some group of girls. Normal girls do not go there even with their boyfriends. All are there for take though few will act as if they are waiting for their oligarch to come and pay them top dollars. You can go and talk to any girl you like. They will not approach you. You have to make first move. They will start with 2000 plus for a night but will come down to around 1000-1500 for the full night which is upto say 7 am in the morning. You can also talk about what it includes like DFK, BJ, multiple shots etc.

Getting the dancers is a longer game but everything is possible. They are normally on Hotel's visa and accommodation. Their movements are restricted. You need to spend more time in the club and focus only on particular dancer. Listen to her songs and tip her well. But like I said it is long game and be prepared to throw lot of money and you may not get what you want.