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  1. #24293
    Quote Originally Posted by HellvelMan  [View Original Post]
    Which is the best place to catch Indian and Pakistani birds.

    Checked in MR and ended up in scam alert. Hope seniors can show some light.

    TIA.
    RTFF is pretty good for that.

  2. #24292

    Indian Birds

    Which is the best place to catch Indian and Pakistani birds.

    Checked in MR and ended up in scam alert. Hope seniors can show some light.

    TIA.

  3. #24291
    Quote Originally Posted by DetJunky  [View Original Post]
    I stayed 3 days in Dubai, first day was the scam incident noted below. The next two days I spent time with an SA girl from Pakistan, it took 6 months of planning. I signed up on SA and started connecting with some ladies. One responded and was very friendly, we called each other, video, chat etc almost daily.

    She finally agreed to come to Dubai to meet me, I cannot go to Pakistan as I hold a UK passport and safety and security it is not recommended and did not wanted even try.

    I paid for her Visa and she was able to get it, bought her a ticket, I arrived and waited for her a day before.

    We spend 2 full days without going out, she was chubbier than the photos, face was cute, sex as ok full GFE but some lack of passion. I am used to south American and Brazillan passion sex, it was a bit lower than my taste. Overall was memorable.

    I cannot believe I was able to do it, there is a good opportunity to scoop some gems from Afghanistan, Morocco, Iran and Pakistan and travel to a Neutral country, where girls do not need visas and not questions asked like Mali, Nepal, Madagascar etc.

    6 Months of planning, 2 days sex, total cost was 5000 USD, including my ticket, her ticket, Visa, her SA fee, hotel, etc.

    Expensive but worth it I think.
    There is so much SA pussy in Dxb and so amazing words can't describe the passion when you fuck a normal girl who enjoys sex much more than a WG.

    I've had so many in the last 30 days it's been amazing to be back in Dxb.

    Time to head to LATAM again: I miss Latino pussy like crazy and reggaeton.

    Ciao.

  4. #24290
    Quote Originally Posted by PlushTiger  [View Original Post]
    Just a thought, these fees seem quite high to me, so your friend may want to check if that's standard fee, it could be that the hospital is trying to take advantage of the situation. It might be worth consulting a lawyer before paying anything else. As long as he did not sign off on anything, he should be fine. In general in Dubai bill payment is a big issue and to my knowledge, there is little a business can do, especially in B2 B transactions. Might be worth checking for the particular case of individuals and hospitals. The black swan though is whether the she was sent to a private or a government hospital. In the latter case obviously the case gets more complicated for your friend.
    It was a private hospital. Yes, nothing was signed. I have passed the feedback from here to my mate. He doesn't get why he would get into any trouble even if they have his name or ID when he didn't sign anything and he wasn't the one who got the surgery.

  5. #24289
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Thanks Guys for your insight.

    The hospital did provide him and her a breakdown of the full 69 K AED, I guess that can be called an invoice. NOTHING was signed. The hospital tried hard to get them to sign a check or to get them to sign a written statement about the remaining amount but they didn't give either. Despite that fact, they let the girl get discharged. This leads me to believe that they tacitly have accepted the 25 K AED as the full payment, but I could be wrong here.

    Even if they get my mate's ID, what could they do with it? He isn't the one who got the surgery. The relationship he mentioned with the girl was that of a friend only. They only have the Emirates ID of the WG, but as I said, it's not her Emirates ID, she was using the Emirates ID of a Russian girl. Their picture looks kinda similar which is why she got away with it, which I still find very odd.

    He used his Australian debit card to make the 2 payments, not a credit card. I guess they would have his name from that. Since it's a debit card, they would not be able to get any more money from that card.

    He sent me the discharge papers, they only mention an injury to the wrist, nothing about foul play or suicide and no police or CID was ever involved. As for hospital cameras coming into the fray, to my knowledge this happened inside the hotel room. I don't believe Dubai hotels have in room cameras? If they did, then half of my life has been captured on camera LOL.

    Cheers.
    Your friend is absolutely fine, if he didn't sign anything, then there is no reason for the hospital to charge him.

  6. #24288
    Thanks Guys for your insight.

    The hospital did provide him and her a breakdown of the full 69 K AED, I guess that can be called an invoice. NOTHING was signed. The hospital tried hard to get them to sign a check or to get them to sign a written statement about the remaining amount but they didn't give either. Despite that fact, they let the girl get discharged. This leads me to believe that they tacitly have accepted the 25 K AED as the full payment, but I could be wrong here.

    Even if they get my mate's ID, what could they do with it? He isn't the one who got the surgery. The relationship he mentioned with the girl was that of a friend only. They only have the Emirates ID of the WG, but as I said, it's not her Emirates ID, she was using the Emirates ID of a Russian girl. Their picture looks kinda similar which is why she got away with it, which I still find very odd.

    He used his Australian debit card to make the 2 payments, not a credit card. I guess they would have his name from that. Since it's a debit card, they would not be able to get any more money from that card.

    He sent me the discharge papers, they only mention an injury to the wrist, nothing about foul play or suicide and no police or CID was ever involved. As for hospital cameras coming into the fray, to my knowledge this happened inside the hotel room. I don't believe Dubai hotels have in room cameras? If they did, then half of my life has been captured on camera LOL.

    Cheers.

  7. #24287
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Since my buddy took her to the hospital with the ambulance, he had to make an initial payment of 15,000 AED as a deposit for them to go through with the surgery, since she had no insurance. He said he was scared that she might die if the surgery didn't go through ASAP so he paid the amount using his credit card.

    My buddy was also able to fly out of Dubai a couple of days later..
    The amount is not high if you factor in that most of us have insurance and have no clue the real cost of this type of surgery.

    If the hospital wanted its cash it could have tried to use the card details as I know hotels who take the extras you forget to pay for a days later. So tell him check his card statement (and maybe get a new card?

    If it wanted him to pay his credit card gives all his details and it would have taken the cash by now IMHO.

    But the moral of the story. Never go with CIS girls (I have on 2 times and they were crazy plus mates have faced similar drama etc at the Marriott) - too much trouble, too much scam and never keep to menu (I have said this for 15 years LOL but some still want to scratch that itch LOL.

    The only good CIS I have enjoyed was a mate's lady now his wife in threesomes and group sex. But that was the exception to my rule LOL.

  8. #24286
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]

    My personal opinion is that he should be fine. He is worried about whether it's safe for him to travel to Dubai again, blah blah. He did not sign anything for the hospital about the remaining amount, they let the WG get discharged after getting the 25,000 AED payment.

    Thoughts?
    From a tracing perspective. They can easily find him assuming the credit card is registered to him. However, as the time has passed there is almost no risk of police involvement regarding the incident. It would be almost impossible for authorities to prove that it wasn't an accident and if they really wanted to get into it with hotel cameras etc then I'd be amazed. Bigger fish to fry etc.

    From a financial perspective, I'm with others that if nothing was signed, and no balance invoice presented, then the hospital accepted the 25 K as final payment.

  9. #24285
    Quote Originally Posted by Komnetkijken  [View Original Post]
    That's quite a story. Of course, no one here *knows* the exact answers to the questions asked, unless HH is a member of this board. So you'll only have opinions.

    I guess your friend has not too much to worry about. You write the hospital doesn't have his ID. Now I'm 100% sure they can easily get his ID if they want to, because 'smart dubai' is interconnecting virtually all electronic systems and administrations in UAE. So even though he didn't give his ID to the hospital, they can have it.

    I assume he hasn't signed something at the hospital which obliged him to pay "all resulting costs", did he? So not, then he's fine.
    Hey mate, that's right, he didn't sign anything. No one signed anything, and still the hospital let them all leave and gave the girl the discharge papers.

  10. #24284
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Gentlemen,

    A buddy of mine from Sydney that frequents Dubai has landed himself in some shit during his last trip to Dubai. Actually it seems like he dodged a bullet but he is going out of his mind with paranoia and constantly bugging me with questions that I don't really have all the answers to, so I'm going to put them before you and explain as briefly as I can his predicament and my 2 cents on it, please do let me know your thoughts as I think this whole scenario could be beneficial for all punters in Dubai. Ok, here's the story, as briefly as I can remember from what he told me:

    .....

    Sorry for the long post. This just shows the risks of punting in Dubai. If the hospital or the hotel had called the police, for sure they'd both be in jail since they'd treat the case as a suicide attempt or some shit, plus it's illegal for an unmarried couple to be in the same room in Dubai. Plus, she could have died as her cut was very deep and then he'd be in jail for god knows how long. So punting in Dubai carries significant risks if things go wrong, like they did for my mate.
    That's quite a story. Of course, no one here *knows* the exact answers to the questions asked, unless HH is a member of this board. So you'll only have opinions.

    I guess your friend has not too much to worry about. You write the hospital doesn't have his ID. Now I'm 100% sure they can easily get his ID if they want to, because 'smart dubai' is interconnecting virtually all electronic systems and administrations in UAE. So even though he didn't give his ID to the hospital, they can have it.

    I assume he hasn't signed something at the hospital which obliged him to pay "all resulting costs", did he? So not, then he's fine.

  11. #24283

    Hospital Charges

    You already said he paid the initial fee with his credit card at admission, SO, the hospital does have his name and credit card information.

    He needs to be careful on a return as he could be arrested.

    No fun in Arab jail.

    Best wishes!

    Rainman.

  12. #24282

    The hospital maybe trying to scam him

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Gentlemen,
    Sorry for the long post. This just shows the risks of punting in Dubai. If the hospital or the hotel had called the police, for sure they'd both be in jail since they'd treat the case as a suicide attempt or some shit, plus it's illegal for an unmarried couple to be in the same room in Dubai. Plus, she could have died as her cut was very deep and then he'd be in jail for god knows how long. So punting in Dubai carries significant risks if things go wrong, like they did for my mate.
    Just a thought, these fees seem quite high to me, so your friend may want to check if that's standard fee, it could be that the hospital is trying to take advantage of the situation. It might be worth consulting a lawyer before paying anything else. As long as he did not sign off on anything, he should be fine. In general in Dubai bill payment is a big issue and to my knowledge, there is little a business can do, especially in B2 B transactions. Might be worth checking for the particular case of individuals and hospitals. The black swan though is whether the she was sent to a private or a government hospital. In the latter case obviously the case gets more complicated for your friend.

  13. #24281

    Thoughts.

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Gentlemen,
    Thoughts?.
    I would be very wary of going back to Dubai TBH. If the hospital decide to look for the rest of the money, they could check with the hotel as they will know the details of who was there, or could find out, and it would not take long, nor would you need to be Sherlock Holmes, to find out your mate's identity. After that, who knows?

  14. #24280

    Posting on behalf of a concerned mate

    Gentlemen,

    A buddy of mine from Sydney that frequents Dubai has landed himself in some shit during his last trip to Dubai. Actually it seems like he dodged a bullet but he is going out of his mind with paranoia and constantly bugging me with questions that I don't really have all the answers to, so I'm going to put them before you and explain as briefly as I can his predicament and my 2 cents on it, please do let me know your thoughts as I think this whole scenario could be beneficial for all punters in Dubai. Ok, here's the story, as briefly as I can remember from what he told me:

    He was in Dubai and with his regular WG from Ukraine. They got into some stupid fight while in the hotel room. Apparently they are pretty tight and almost like a couple, so they got into an argument where my buddy didn't believe what the WG was telling him and he told her to leave, despite her pleas to listen to her. He insisted she get the fuck out and was ready to throw her out. The WG picked up an empty glass of champagne, smashed it and used one of the broken glasses to slash her wrist open! Can you believe that? She bled profusely and luckily my buddy was able to call an ambulance, take her to the hospital where she needed emergency surgery to repair her veins. It was a really bad cut apparently and she was there over night. The Ukrainian WG in question is apparently illegal in Dubai with no visa, and was using a fake Iqama of a Russian girl. She also had no insurance. Since my buddy took her to the hospital with the ambulance, he had to make an initial payment of 15,000 AED as a deposit for them to go through with the surgery, since she had no insurance. He said he was scared that she might die if the surgery didn't go through ASAP so he paid the amount using his credit card.

    Long story short, the surgery was successful and the next day she was discharged. Now get this, the final bill the hospital put before him was a whopping 69,000 AED! After a lot of arguing and bickering, they asked him to pay another 10,000 AED and told him and her to come back 2 days later to discuss the remaining amount with the hospital higher authorities. So the WG was discharged and able to go home.

    Positives: the hospital or the hotel did not call the police or involve them, they made up a story that it was a freak accident and I guess the hospital / hotel bought it, the WG got the surgery which went well and was discharged and able to go home. My buddy was also able to fly out of Dubai a couple of days later.

    Now here's the question that's bugging him. Since he and the WG did not go back to the hospital after paying a total of 25,000 AED, is there anything the hospital can do against him? Note, the hospital does not have my buddy's name or his ID. They may have his mobile number but he said he managed to put the WG's mobile name in their system before she got discharged. The WG in question as I mentioned is using a fake Russian Emirates ID (She is actually Ukranian) so they do not have her real name or ID either, just a mobile number. The WG also apparently has now left Dubai and flown back to Ukraine.

    Does my buddy have anything to worry about? They don't have his ID, he was a tourist in Dubai, and even if they did, what could they possibly do? He isn't the one who got the surgery in the first place. That's what I keep telling him, but I do not know the laws etc in DXB / UAE and hence why I told him that look, I'll put your situation and questions before this forum and see what the guys say and get back to you.

    My personal opinion is that he should be fine. He is worried about whether it's safe for him to travel to Dubai again, blah blah. He did not sign anything for the hospital about the remaining amount, they let the WG get discharged after getting the 25,000 AED payment.

    Thoughts?

    Sorry for the long post. This just shows the risks of punting in Dubai. If the hospital or the hotel had called the police, for sure they'd both be in jail since they'd treat the case as a suicide attempt or some shit, plus it's illegal for an unmarried couple to be in the same room in Dubai. Plus, she could have died as her cut was very deep and then he'd be in jail for god knows how long. So punting in Dubai carries significant risks if things go wrong, like they did for my mate.

  15. #24279
    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherDay  [View Original Post]
    I hope you are trolling us. Because if not. Wow.

    Sorry buddy. Just unbelievable.
    I reckon AD hit the nail. It's a wind up.

    Speedo.

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