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[Aditya385]

Hi.

I do have a full concierge package. Would you care to subscribe?

Sure would love to.

[Osminb]

I ended up taking a Syrian from Broadway last night for session 2 after my Brazilian regular. I had this Syrian's number so just messaged her up to come to my hotel after seeing nothing at Premier. She has a nice face, good breasts and a BIG booty, what she has is what you call a BOOTY. She gave a really good BJ, much to my surprise, I already had the Brazilian earlier choking and spitting on it with all her saliva and then this Syrian did the exact same thing, so that was good to have two proper full throttle BJ's in one night.

...In 20 years of mongering, even banging a shemale too in London (a very high risk group), I've never caught one thing so it's been working good for me up to now so no need to change it and get riskier.

We've all been there, a slippery slope indeed, but all parties can do a test beforehand at ZMD. Quick question, could you elaborate on how you got the Brazilian? Not looking for contacts, just a bit of context to save your inbox LOL.

[FilipDevries]

If I can make a little observation about this forum. Online, people tend to be harsh and very unforgiving. Its anonymous and people tend to hide behind it. In my last post about dating a massage girl I did reveal being somewhat stupid and making some mistakes. If this was reddit or twitter, there would have been a lot of blaming and namecalling. Its very easy to call somebody an idiot online since there are no consequences.

However, on this forum, I find the mood and vibe very good and not judgemental. Some replies from people like Joe Karnavic, Plush Tiger and Bloodred are very supportive even when disagreeing.

Who would have though that a sex based forum is actually more liberal, progressive and kind compared to the average internet.

Anyway, just an observation.

Back to sex news!

[Clam Hunter]

By the sounds of it she spent about 36 hours with you, you should have countered with 6 to 8 K and I think she would have been fine. 10 K would have been a good outcome for her.

Unless you are marrying her (which is going to cost you a lot more than 20 K! I am not sure why / how you think she is spending time with you on a pro bono basis.... With all due respect I don't think the lady was 'scamming' you, she had a reasonable expectation to be compensated for her time, she put in a high bid and really you should have countered with a more reasonable offer!

I totally agree with Aimara and Joe K here. Take comfort from the fact that were not scammed. I think you perhaps just misread the runes.

These girls are all here / only here to make money to support their families. You mentioned CNY so I am guessing your girl is from South East Asia (SEA). SEA girls would never dream of doing this shitty work but for the need to support families. Also, in SEA, love and support (financial and emotional) are inextricably linked. A western girl is horrified to see an older guy with a young SEA girl and judges that the girl despises him and only wants his money. This narrow view is often bourne out of self preservation as an aging western lady cannot hope to compete in the looks and care department with a young SEA girl. The SEA girl on the other hand is not primarily interested in an Adonis. In fact this is way down her list of priorities. Love in the eyes of SEA women is bestowed on the guys who support them and understand their need to support their wider families. In my experience this is in part transactional but in return for opening your wallet you will invariably get devotion and care in return whether you are 30 or 60 years old, or whether you are fat or fit. It does not matter.

Their is some truth in the old maxim that "you can take the girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl". But, this applies much more to young girls wanting a party lifestyle rather then the older girls living pretty bleak lives in the regions many AMPS.

I think your girl will have been deeply troubled as to why you didn't open your wallet and help her (as best you could- say one or two thousand max) financially. She set a test to see if your relationship could continue. Without your financial support / understanding it cannot continue.

Do not be disheartened. If you like her that much, perhaps re-approach her with new enlightened strategy! Good luck!!

[Aditya385]

Hi.

I do have a full concierge package. Would you care to subscribe?

Sure, share details.

[The Cane]

You are missing the main point by KittyLover, that Dubai as a mongering destination is missing Japanese WGs. I have never been to Dubai, so I am not sure if this is true. But my point is that it is easy to find Japanese WGs in other mongering places in the world. (Canada is an example I provided, also London, New York, LA has great availability of Japanese WGs).

Your other point of availability of Japanese WGs in Japan also not true. I am Indian and have lived in Tokyo for 10 months (around 7 years back) and have enjoyed many Japanese WGs there. Your point of "discrimination against foreigners" is not not very true, as I never felt any discrimination from Japanese WGs. (Japanese girls are very fond of white skin and in US you will see most Japanese girls prefer white boyfriends over Japanese boys). The real reason that foreigners don't get the same level of service as locals is the lack of English speaking WGs in Japan. Many WGs don't speak English at all or speak very limited and broken English, which brings inferiority complex to them and they prefer not to serve foreigners. When I was in Japan, I spoke conversational Japanese, so it was easy for me to connect with local WGs and get good service as compared to other Indian guys who did not speak Japanese.

Of course Japan is way more expensive to live and monger, so it can never be a preferred mongering destination as Thailand. Also since foreigners don't speak Japanese, you will not see many people enjoying Japanese WGs in Japan. (Same applies to South Korea, I have been there many times but never got good service from WGs, where my friend can't get enough of Seoul WGs, because of korean language barrier for me).

I'm missing the man's main point? You're the one going on about Canada, London, New York, and LA. Any place but Dubai LOL! Now, I have been to Dubai and what the UAE pros here say is true. If somebody there says they're Japanese they're virtually 100% lying and are most likely Chinese. And in your zeal to convince that Japanese women are just as available to foreigners in Japan as they are to Japanese men and don't discriminate, you turn right around and contradict yourself by saying that they do discriminate based on language! And in this you highlight a real difference between Japanese women and those from other cultures. Do you know how many times a chick in Brazil or somewhere in Europe or the Middle East or Asia was ready to fuck my brains out with both of us standing there with smartphone translators in our hands? LOLOLOL!

There are plenty of places in the world where the girls don't give a damn about understanding the same language. No, what they care about is the "language" of cash money. So you lived in Japan for 10 months a long time ago and now you know more about it than even a Japanese man like Mr. Ho on this site and other expats with far more experience in Japan than you have, and who say relative to other places Japan sucks for foreign mongers there? If so, then you know one hell of a lot more than anyone else and, instead of going back and forth with me, should seek to leverage that knowledge to your pecuniary benefit as plenty of others most assuredly will want to know what you know bro! But like I said, I don't give a flip! Not attracted to most Asian women anyway so who cares? I don't. Tap that teppanyaki tookus and be happy then yo! LMAO!

[Ak1749]

Have someone shares some numbers as I will be dubai this weekend.

[Makaveli87]

I ended up taking a Syrian from Broadway last night for session 2 after my Brazilian regular. I had this Syrian's number so just messaged her up to come to my hotel after seeing nothing at Premier. She has a nice face, good breasts and a BIG booty, what she has is what you call a BOOTY. She gave a really good BJ, much to my surprise, I already had the Brazilian earlier choking and spitting on it with all her saliva and then this Syrian did the exact same thing, so that was good to have two proper full throttle BJ's in one night.

I had to hold myself from banging this Syrian without a condom too, when we were doing foreplay on the couch she came on top rubbing her pussy on my dick and boy oh boy it felt so damn good and soft. I'm someone that's NEVER banged a WG without a condom, never in 20 years, even when I've had many chances to do it, it's not just the safety issue as I'm fairly certain if I did bang them without one I'd have a few bastards lying around by now which is something I don't want, and eventually if you bang one WG without it you will get used to it and always want it without a condom and you will eventually catch something. In 20 years of mongering, even banging a shemale too in London (a very high risk group), I've never caught one thing so it's been working good for me up to now so no need to change it and get riskier.

[Joe Karnavic]

An experience I rarely see discussed here, so I can finally contribute something new! .


Cost: airline ticket + hotel + safari + lunch.

Worth it? Actually yes. Loved the sex. It was nuts. Worth the money. Just hated the immediate breakup. Really liked her. I think she's amazing (which is stupid of me.).

WIR? I guess not.

Sympathize with you mate. But you are not the only one. From the old times there were people before you and after you who will fall in love with AMP girl or WG and get hurt. I have been there too, seen it but eventually lucky to dodge the bullet as PT says.

If she is an AMP girl who is beautiful and give you one of the best sex be assured that it is never an unconditional affair. After the first stint when she gave everything to you she must have thought what is in there for her. Are you going to be her boyfriend who will take care of all her emotional and financial needs. If she is Thai or from similar Asian countries the support of families and children is their prime objectives. We are just Cogs in the wheel. Like stock market she has taken a Stop-Loss view. It was 20 K or nothing. That is what she thought this relation is worth for her. So do not take it to heart. We all live in the world where every relationship is transactional when it comes to women in your life.

Love happens. I had an AMP girl for many years. On her off day it was romantic dinner, drinks at Burj al Arab, night in luxury hotel, breakfast in bed. It was whirlwind affair. But I never lost sight of her financial needs, gave her fix allowance every month without she asking, It lasted as long as I wanted. There was no heartbreak when she went away. She did not break relationship because I took care of her and she is thankful for ever. It was best time of my life.

So move on. There are more fish in the sea and you will fall in love again. It is nice feeling to fall in love.

HAPPY VALENTINES DAY TO EVERY ONE.

[Pk099]

You are missing the main point by KittyLover, that Dubai as a mongering destination is missing Japanese WGs. I have never been to Dubai, so I am not sure if this is true. But my point is that it is easy to find Japanese WGs in other mongering places in the world. (Canada is an example I provided, also London, New York, LA has great availability of Japanese WGs).

Your other point of availability of Japanese WGs in Japan also not true. I am Indian and have lived in Tokyo for 10 months (around 7 years back) and have enjoyed many Japanese WGs there. Your point of "discrimination against foreigners" is not not very true, as I never felt any discrimination from Japanese WGs. (Japanese girls are very fond of white skin and in US you will see most Japanese girls prefer white boyfriends over Japanese boys). The real reason that foreigners don't get the same level of service as locals is the lack of English speaking WGs in Japan. Many WGs don't speak English at all or speak very limited and broken English, which brings inferiority complex to them and they prefer not to serve foreigners. When I was in Japan, I spoke conversational Japanese, so it was easy for me to connect with local WGs and get good service as compared to other Indian guys who did not speak Japanese.

Of course Japan is way more expensive to live and monger, so it can never be a preferred mongering destination as Thailand. Also since foreigners don't speak Japanese, you will not see many people enjoying Japanese WGs in Japan. (Same applies to South Korea, I have been there many times but never got good service from WGs, where my friend can't get enough of Seoul WGs, because of korean language barrier for me).

Sorry, but I disagree that Japan is a good place for foreigners to monger. I didn't say there weren't any working girls there. I said it wasn't very welcoming to foreigners who often can't get the best pussy there due to discrimination against foreigners. Prostitution is not the same everywhere! If it's so great for foreigners in Japan then why isn't that known? Like Dubai, Thailand, Germany, Brazil, Indonesia and on and on with other top destinations around the world? If it was true then it would be all over the internet bro, but it isn't. It clearly doesn't carry that same kind recognition as a top mongering destination and we all know it, and there's reasons for that. Like it being outrageously expensive for another! And then to back up what you're saying you use a couple of examples out of Canada LMAO! We're talking about prostitution in Japan, and you're not convincing anyone of what you claim by pointing out two measly tutes who don't even work in Japan LOL! At the end of the day I don't give a flip since I don't even like Asian women anyway LOLOLOL!

[Want More]

Hey fellow Mongers,

Can you help with the best clubs currently for mongering out there. I would frequent premiere before but after reading the forum, it looks like the quality has come down. I would be interested in mostly 8+ CIS, Eastern Europe WGs along with approximate damage. Unable to find latest updates on this. Thanks.

Hi.

I do have a full concierge package. Would you care to subscribe?

[Aimara]

By the sounds of it she spent about 36 hours with you, you should have countered with 6 to 8 K and I think she would have been fine. 10 K would have been a good outcome for her.

Unless you are marrying her (which is going to cost you a lot more than 20 K! I am not sure why / how you think she is spending time with you on a pro bono basis. I am an accountant, if a friend wants tax advice, I'll give him mates rates, but it won't be free.

I had a thing going with a Russian in Dubai over several years many years ago, she had a full time job and escorted on the side. The first time I met her was Premiere. Few times she travelled to other countries to spend time with me as well, I always covered all her costs and her 'pocket money' was always at least her daily rate x number of days plus some shopping. If I had wanted to make the relationship more permanent, that option was there, however that would have required a different type of commitment from me which was never going to happen. So I was never under any illusions on the nature of the relationship. The bonus for both of us was that I had a fit Russian to hang around with and guaranteed fun, for her I was a known and somewhat generous quantity and some optionality that I fall for her on a more permanent basis and move her with me.

With all due respect I don't think the lady was 'scamming' you, she had a reasonable expectation to be compensated for her time, she put in a high bid and really you should have countered with a more reasonable offer!

However, when it looks like a scam, and when it behaves like a scam, then it's probably a scam. So maybe I was a target after all? She claims, in Dubai, dating always involves money.

Girl: Please don't ask or try to find our. I won't reveal her name. She is never mentioned on this board.

Cost: airline ticket + hotel + safari + lunch.

Worth it? Actually yes. Loved the sex. It was nuts. Worth the money. Just hated the immediate breakup. Really liked her. I think she's amazing (which is stupid of me.).

WIR? I guess not.

[Blood Red]

Then the date is coming up. I travel to Dubai only for her and only for 1 day. And she knows this. The date does not involve money.

That was your mistake, believing that the date would not involve money. Nothing is free of cost. Plus, as you said, you're dealing with a WG. You are her customer. She will always view you through that lens. She went with you on the date, gave you great sex and a good time to set you up for the obvious, which is asking for money. It happens every time.

This is why I believe it's a bad idea to keep in touch with a WG after you have a session with her. Sure you can keep her number, but it's not a good idea to keep in contact and exchange messages, because eventually she's going to ask you for money. This has happened to me at least over 10 times and the test never fails. Sometimes I keep in touch with a WG if I really like her and if the sex was out of this world, but as I said, they will eventually ask for money. It is usually the same story, some problem like this or that, or need to send money to family, or have a sick child, etc. You did the right thing by not sending her money. Remember, if you send money, you're a sucker. End of story. Just my opinion.

[Aditya385]

Hey fellow Mongers,

Can you help with the best clubs currently for mongering out there. I would frequent premiere before but after reading the forum, it looks like the quality has come down. I would be interested in mostly 8+ CIS, Eastern Europe WGs along with approximate damage. Unable to find latest updates on this. Thanks.

[FilipDevries]

It might be as well that she actually has some feelings for you and feels that you do too, so she built herself a narrative that she would deserve some compensation for that love and sex and that she's worth it. In any case nothing would have guaranteed that she would not have ghosted you afterwards anyways. If not she would have expected such payments more and more often and managed to officialize the relationship.

Thank you for your well written reply and thoughts. I agree with all what you said, and especially the above quote. Really have the feeling that your comment nails her thinking. What your write really matches her explanation. It's a very different way for me to look at things, so it takes some time to really get it.