Dubai Reports

[SethiatSpace]

it no longer gives me joy to spend money with random women to spend an hour with me. Don't get me wrong- I don't belittle sex work or people that pursue it. I have great admiration for people that can have their needs met and can afford it. Me personally, I come from a third world country and spending the equivalent of a month's wages on a woman for her to pretend like she wants your thing in her. Idk man. It all feels weird.

That's your problem there. You're paying money thinking the girl will pretend to like you for an hour (or not). That's a bad take on this. It's better for you to go the SA route and find a sugarbaby. Don't go for escorts there, a real baby that will like you for your money but not only. She will spend time with you, write to you, ask about you, care about you if you build a real relation. This takes time and needs work to find the one that fits you.

If you go to a prostitute for an hour, it's to fuck her. Period. Don't expect more than that. I personally don't care if she pretends to like me or not. As long as she is not obviously disgusted or unhappy. But neutral is fine. If she orgasms, good but it's not my main goal. I'm going for my own sexual pleasure and companionship.

[Apdhillon]

This will likely get flagged and not even get posted but I wanted to share my $0. 02. I moved to dubai alone a year and a half back. The "meat market" is a good way to escape the loneliness that comes at you in this city. I feel like a lot of us young, specifically Indian dudes spend money to feel "wanted" or "desired' for a bit. I spend a lot of time reading posts on here but when it comes to picking up the phone and ringing a random woman I pussy out thinking of STDs or just the logistics. I had my share of "fun" at spas but frankly. Most of them don't do FS, the BBBJ offering makes me scared of STDs and well a HJ is usually better off at home with some good porn from Onlyfans.

I admire the mongers that have been able to do it for a decade and not catch STDs or feel broken deep within. I realise the mongering is just me slapping a bandaid on what needs surgery. I think I will just retire from any active mongering because it no longer gives me joy to spend money with random women to spend an hour with me. Don't get me wrong- I don't belittle sex work or people that pursue it. I have great admiration for people that can have their needs met and can afford it. Me personally, I come from a third world country and spending the equivalent of a month's wages on a woman for her to pretend like she wants your thing in her. Idk man. It all feels weird.

I share these thoughts because I recognise there's a lot of younger mongers here just lurking just like me. Obv this is ISG and you are not coming here for self help. The mongering world has a lot of soft skills you can actually use irl. I learned to be more street smart, understand the art of "trading" information and interact with women better. But if you are like me, fundamentally broken deep within, perhaps consider other avenues to spend your money and find happiness. Even consider therapy.

I don't mean to retire from mongering. For now I am just trying to find models I relate to and have a steady rapport with. So far there's been shit luck on that end.

Anyway, idk where I'm going at with all this. Just sharing my emo musings on balancing the mental aspects of mongering with the physical.

Have a pleasant weekend.

[Komnetkijken]

Plan on visiting Dubai in coming April 2023. Just want to reconfirm if the popular Ratsky nightclub is located in Fortune Karama Hotel near the ADCB metro station?.

Yes, indeed. Looking forward to your reports.

[Rk237]

She must have come back from Davos, and is still high!! LOL.

But seriously, pre and post covid I can feel a significant change. Price is one thing that has definitely gone up, but what I see more often is girls willing to walk away and not budge on the price. Earlier, a bit of sweet talking and praise would have made the girl at least meet halfway. Now the attitude is "take it or leave it". It really messes up things when you go with a fixed budget.

DAVOS, hahahah!! Couldn't agree any more with you mate. I've noticed that these women are too strong about what service they wish to provide if its something they don't want they will happily decline you and not give a fuck. I guess it all boils down to the fact that its currently the sellers market. Sad when it being a sellers market you still get shitty quality women (5-7's quality). I still strongly believe although never tried them but lust model agency has perhaps the most pretty looking ladies but they are insanely priced man.

[Rk237]

All in all, I'm still focusing on Czar and Moscow as hunting grounds. Haven't found any better.

Yes, its sad that there are not new places with top quality women besides the 2 mentioned. But, I've been told five palm jumeirah has a great bunch of women working there. Although they come with a heft price tag. For someone who has no budget constrains I strongly recommend this place. Its stupidly funny that if you happen to have their numbers and were to call them for an out call somewhere else in dxb their prices differ. ! thing my friend mentioned that the quality of asian pussy put up in five palm is a notch above rest of dxb, I don't know how true that is.

Also, you earlier mentioned GND what's the full form to that?

Have you tried the byblos chain of hotels and their respective night clubs?

[PunjabiHorny]

I would take anyone up on that offer. But not sure where I would find someone. Here till 31st morning. Probably a couple of tries left before I leave. Will be back next month.

Maybe you should be a wingman. If you are staying longer in DXB. Go in with someone that has done it many times, and just watch and learn. It is no rocket science. As others have said, the girls are in a more risky situation since they don't know what kind of a creep the guy might turn out to be. Just be confident, and polite. Thats all it takes.

Treat it like you are walking up and talking to a new girl / lady at a big fat Indian wedding. We talk to a lot of people for the first time there, don't we? LOL.

[MickeyDuck1208]

Maybe you should be a wingman. If you are staying longer in DXB. Go in with someone that has done it many times, and just watch and learn. It is no rocket science. As others have said, the girls are in a more risky situation since they don't know what kind of a creep the guy might turn out to be. Just be confident, and polite. Thats all it takes.

Treat it like you are walking up and talking to a new girl / lady at a big fat Indian wedding. We talk to a lot of people for the first time there, don't we? LOL.

Hopefully I would be careful the next time and make sure to get the better out of the game.

I am a regular monger in Mumbai. Spas and Indies being the primary scene. Club pickup was new to me since I have never been to a club before.

[Blood Red]

Be respectful, be clean, be nice. Enjoy.
they're still there to work and make money but no need to be rude to them.

That sums it up nicely. Be polite, wear clean clothes, smell good, and show respect.

[KittyLover]

Plan on visiting Dubai in coming April 2023. Just want to reconfirm if the popular Ratsky nightclub is located in Fortune Karama Hotel near the ADCB metro station? I have mongered a lot in Dubai back in 2011-2012 and most of my memory of those days are lost in time. I RTFF going back 30 pages and thanks to "Rocko20" here, got a good feel of the current nightlife.

[Komnetkijken]

Visited Moscow last night. Paid the 250 after waiting outside for about 10 minutes to get at least some impression of what's available. When inside the quality was as expected: some pretty girls but most just average or below.

Took a liking into a slim girl standing at the table immediately on the left when entering. Name was Regina, Russian. Het manager asked 1500 for 2 h which I considered too steep. She wouldn't come down. And I have to admit she was right doing so because it only took a few minutes before a guy had a 10 second talk with the manager and the deal was sealed.

I planned on leaving but noticed another girl coming in. By the time it was probably around 1230 so she might have had a customer before. Which is a bit of f*cking my mind. Had a brief talk and she was really nice. Ukrainian, young, slim (though not as the other girl) and just very comfortable and friendly. 21 yo. Dealt with her mgr, 1300 for 2 h.

Service was good. Really nice body and didn't complain on any of the things I did to her) She left after 2 h and I was a happy man. I have her contact for a next visit and got her mgrs contact too. (though it turned out I had it already stored). She'll be leaving around 21 February and she has a sister working too. Could be interesting, to take them both on one night (not together) or subsequent nights.

[SethiatSpace]

Was wondering the whole time people who don't drink what do they do at Moscow. Since I too don't drink. In fact I hate it. But buying sparkling water is whole another level. I would at least have salty fresh lime. Also I was wondering how do you guys checkout the WGs at the place. I mean how do you move from your table to other corners of the club. It would seem a little awkward to me to move just for the sake of moving. I tried the washroom way but it was in completely opposite direction.

There were a lot of Uzbekis at Ek Barrio yesterday some were arguably even hotter but I just couldn't gauge the entire scene as felt a little nervous to just be roaming around so stuck to my table and choose from the 5-6 girls I could clearly see.

I don't consider RS a place I want to be in at all. It's too loud, the music is the same shit you'll hear over and over everytime you go there, the whole room is a fucking smoker's paradise (and I don't smoke at all and hate it), it's cramped, it's dark. But. It may be derogatory but it is what it is, a "meat market". Girls are there to get picked up and I am there to do the picking. I go there, get something to drink because it's still something to do while checking the goods. Stay at the bar a little, have an overview. See the girls passing by the bar. Then do some rounds checking the goods. Sometimes going up close to get a better view. Sometimes waiting for a girl to get up and move a little to go around or go to the toilet to have a better assessment of her body.

Once I have made my choice about one or two girls, I'll have a little window of thinking which one fits more in the way she moves, laugh, looks dead or alive, . Then just go to the girl or her manager and get going.

It will never NOT be akward. You'll still have that first akward boring first exchange "hi how-are-you-where-are-you-from". You're still checking the girls as sexual objects you want to fuck, there is still an age difference, it's not "normal". But it doesn't have to be. Unless you're going there for the 1000th time but anyway, IT. DOESN'T MATTER. No guy cares about you in the club, in fact I barely notice them except when I'm trying to squeeze my way or one them steal the girl I want. And the girl just want to "work" so it doesn't matter to them if you look at them for 10 min straight as long as you pick them.

But like someone said, you need to be a minimum comfortable. You're going to freak out the girls if you look dodgy as hell. They're still going to your room alone and something bad could happen to them. Don't act angry, don't act as a total noob, don't act as you have no idea what you're doing and you'll be fine. Be respectful, be clean, be nice. Enjoy.

I'm insisting on the be nice if you're planning on seeing the girl or of the other girl's of the same group. They talk. And you never know what can happen.
One of the girls I met in RS, a 20-something Russian, took a liking to me. And me to her. I invited her to walk one time in JBR as she almost only worked worked worked and didn't even get to visit Dubai. She enjoyed the walk, I treated her to a nice diner and we went back to my room. We fucked that night and in the morning, I left money for her on the table but SHE REFUSED to take it.
Another time I invited her to another country to visit the capital with me and she was happy to do so. She didn't ask for expensive tickets or ultra luxurious bullshit. I just made sure she was safe, that she would enjoy the places I would taker her to and that she would feel safe at any time. That includes booking a nice hotel in a public area. Buying her a SIM card as soon as she landed and making sure she calls her parents. And avoiding night walks in shady areas. We just naturally enjoyed each other the nights and she never asked for money.
I'm not saying this is common occurence, it's not, they're still there to work and make money but no need to be rude to them.

[Komnetkijken]

Was wondering the whole time people who don't drink what do they do at Moscow. Since I too don't drink. In fact I hate it. But buying sparkling water is whole another level. I would at least have salty fresh lime. Also I was wondering how do you guys checkout the WGs at the place. I mean how do you move from your table to other corners of the club. It would seem a little awkward to me to move just for the sake of moving. I tried the washroom way but it was in completely opposite direction.

There were a lot of Uzbekis at Ek Barrio yesterday some were arguably even hotter but I just couldn't gauge the entire scene as felt a little nervous to just be roaming around so stuck to my table and choose from the 5-6 girls I could clearly see.

Dude, you have to lighten up. After paying 250 AED just to enter Red Square, you *own* that place. Walk around as much as you want, check out the girls from up close as you wish. You are there for a reason: to check out the goods and make a deal. Don't be nervous or stressed: get comfortable.

By the way, like I wrote before: back in the days, group of girls would walk around in a string, holding hands, just in a circle, about every 10-15 minutes. That was a great way for having a look at each of them. It was like a sushi-belt: a parade of girls. Great. I guess covid killed that practice.

[PunjabiHorny]

Hopefully I would be careful the next time and make sure to get the better out of the game.

I am a regular monger in Mumbai. Spas and Indies being the primary scene. Club pickup was new to me since I have never been to a club before.

Its a learning, not foolish, you will probably never fall in this kind of trap again. And your beer cost reminds me of my young days, in Mumbai going to Dance bars with buddies. They paid 50-70 rupees for a beer, and I (a teetotaller) paid 100 rupees for an orange juice. I just threw 50 rupees less at the girls accounting for overall spend. LOL.

I have an old FR here about the Nigerians. I could collect my wits once I realised they were after my money only, and did bang one of them. The most I have every paid for an Afro, anywhere!!

[PunjabiHorny]

Was wondering the whole time people who don't drink what do they do at Moscow. Since I too don't drink. In fact I hate it. But buying sparkling water is whole another level. I would at least have salty fresh lime. Also I was wondering how do you guys checkout the WGs at the place. I mean how do you move from your table to other corners of the club. It would seem a little awkward to me to move just for the sake of moving. I tried the washroom way but it was in completely opposite direction.

There were a lot of Uzbekis at Ek Barrio yesterday some were arguably even hotter but I just couldn't gauge the entire scene as felt a little nervous to just be roaming around so stuck to my table and choose from the 5-6 girls I could clearly see.

This is unfortunately not a cheap hobby. I pay 250 AED to enter moscow and hear me out, I don't drink. And I also refrain from drinking sugary soda or what not. So I order either sparkling water or still water... Yes, I'm paying 50 AED for water. Ain't that nice?

But you have to accept it and move on, I include it in the cost of meetings. So to meet "only" one girl in RS is not 1000 AED but 1000 + 250 AED vs 1000 AED for an incall girl from Russian Angel agency for example.

[MickeyDuck1208]

Its a learning, not foolish, you will probably never fall in this kind of trap again. And your beer cost reminds me of my young days, in Mumbai going to Dance bars with buddies. They paid 50-70 rupees for a beer, and I (a teetotaller) paid 100 rupees for an orange juice. I just threw 50 rupees less at the girls accounting for overall spend. LOL.

I have an old FR here about the Nigerians. I could collect my wits once I realised they were after my money only, and did bang one of them. The most I have every paid for an Afro, anywhere!!

I just couldn't help with the drinks. They kinda forced me to buy a table for 250 with 3 beers, which in any case I was being ripped off for. But I didn't mind. As my first experience I was open to being ripped off, to understand how things worked. And boy did everyone take their tries, from waiters to bouncers, the whiskey guy who the WG ordered from and in the end the WG.

In hindsight though the lost money is not hurtful just being made a fool hurts.

Could have been that she put on makeup. But she did get angry when I denied to continue (maybe she was acting). Hell I can only imagine, 3 Nigerians and a locked apartment, now that my friend would be a tough spot.