2005 Dubai Archived Reports

[Tom Sorenson]

Today I was out with Miss Wildcat, and received a message from a "Nancy/Coco" saying she's been in China, but has returned and opened her "massage centre" again. I have no idea who she is. The only Nancy I know was well over 18 months ago (a cute regular in doubles for a few months), and I'm sure my number has changed since then. Anyone else get the message? If so, who is she?

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I got the same message last week. I called and from what I could figure, it was a MP I visited about a year ago - one time.

[Piper1]

Ever see that ad for underwear?: "One day you're gonna get caught with your pants down."

Today I was out with Miss Wildcat, and received a message from a "Nancy/Coco" saying she's been in China, but has returned and opened her "massage centre" again. I have no idea who she is. The only Nancy I know was well over 18 months ago (a cute regular in doubles for a few months), and I'm sure my number has changed since then. Anyone else get the message? If so, who is she?

Later, and only 30 seconds after I put Miss Wildcat in a cab, Mr. D called to see if we are still on for tomorrow's threesome with his hot Miss B.

One day I'm gonna get caught with my pants down - yikes!

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PS: Bravo - yep, I believe the source about 1700 gals rounded up (not all deported yet - many still in detention). And yes, I'm starting to think that finding a regular would be a good idea (for a while at least).

[11Bravo]

Will agree with Piper1 and Tom2004.

The a-listers especially understand all too well about the conventions. Not saying they'll raise their rates, but discounts will be few and far between. They figure the increase now will offset the dip in income due to the upcoming christmas holidays.

The well known venues will be more crowded, along with a lot of hotel bars (girls know where the business is). PERHAPS less gratis entries to some bars.

If you do see one you fancy, move fast. If you like her, so will others. As the old saying goes, "you snooze, you lose". You can get there early, or, get there later, and hope to catch her as she comes back from her first ST. Or, risky, get there late, and hope she's come back looking for 1 last ST/LT. But I wouldn't put much stock in the supply at 2:30am.

Not only true for the a-listers. The largesse will flow down, or, looking the other way, a number of wg's will "step up" in rank: that not quite a-lister will be as popular as a true a-lister off-peak.

As Tom2004 says, make sure your definition of LT matches hers. A number will use "until you fall asleep". Given the increase in demand of big spending punters (any marketer... and the buyers...), girls will be eager to get back for another chance at the "brass ring grab".

Simple math

• 1 ST + 1 ST >= 1 LT
• 1 ST + 1 LT > 1 LT

I'd be willing to bet that some of the Cyclone a-listers can pull off 3 ST's per night.

But, like Piper1 says, still any number of girls to go around. If, as Piper says, 1700 wg's were deported during Ramadan, and it didn't make a dent in the bar "level", then certainly there will be any number for you to select from. It's just that you MIGHT not get your 1st choice.

One nice thing about having regulars: while you don't get the benefits of reduced prices during slumps, you are protected from price increases during peak seasons.

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Off-topic: anyone get bit by the Sony music CD root-kit? I mean, what were they thinking? If that's a decision "blessed" by multi-million dollar execs, then, for sure, I'm underpaid: I make bonehead decisions for nothing.

[Tercar 66]

I have at times seen a lot of Chinese females hanging around in Ajman Beach hotel open Bar. Has any mongers checked out that scene?

[Tom2004]

Thanks gentlemen. I appreciate the constructive criticism which I will put to use on my next visit in two weeks, which I understand will be the height of some major convention (Index Show?). The Ramada went and raised their rates on me by 200dhs specifically because of the convention! Does this mean a lot more competition at the major venues like Cyclone?

The next show comming to Dubai is Dubai Airshow, and preliminary results do expect an outstanding number of visitors. I can speculate only, but as much as the hotels are preparing (by increasing rates), so do the WG too.

But from experience another risk is increasing: The planned LT suddenly converts to a ST.

So once again it will be worth to read and stick to all the valuable information contained in here.

Have fun,

tom

[Piper1]

Thanks gentlemen. I appreciate the constructive criticism which I will put to use on my next visit in two weeks, which I understand will be the height of some major convention (Index Show?). The Ramada went and raised their rates on me by 200dhs specifically because of the convention! Does this mean a lot more competition at the major venues like Cyclone?

Hi Bob - I think GETEX is on in Abu Dhabi - maybe they need the extra accommodations in Dubai? Not sure. Don't worry, there's always more than enough young ladies to keep you company. You might just need to get in early for the best ones.

cheers

Piper

[HectorG]

Thanks gentlemen. I appreciate the constructive criticism which I will put to use on my next visit in two weeks, which I understand will be the height of some major convention (Index Show?). The Ramada went and raised their rates on me by 200dhs specifically because of the convention! Does this mean a lot more competition at the major venues like Cyclone?

[11Bravo]

24 hours in Dubai

I agree with Piper; VERY entertaining FR, very picturesque. Had me smiling, eager to read what would happen next.

I landed in Dubai at 6am ... finally got my room and crashed. By 2pm I was finally awake and hoping I could make it to TGIT in time.

Pointer for newbies: DON'T let that LATE night or EARLY morning arrival time get you down. Hit the hotel, get some sleep (lobby couch or room), then, early afternoon... that's what TGIT IS for.

• Action starts about 1:30
• by 3:00, wg's looking to make a last deal
• by 3:30, frenzy time
• by 3:45, mass exodus. Given the LE presence, girls not eager to linger outside for a last minute deal.
• SOME action will move to Admiral Plaza, up the street

And she looks at me, rolls her eyes, and then turns away. I never understand this CIS attitude. Before that, I would have paid her 1,000dhs just to snog she was so cute, but her attitude was a complete turnoff that I just thanked her and walked away.

Newbies, take heed. As Big Bob II says, she did him a favor! Don't get upset, just go look for the now top-of-the-list candidate.

9pm: Decided to try Jockeys at Panorama, my first time there. Walked in and it was a huge "sausage party" (95% men). I ordered a beer and decided to give it a chance. Within 15 minutes, about 12 WG walked in. But none were to my liking, all about 40-year-old Chinese women. And no offense to the older punters, but every bloke in the bar was at least 50.

Now, I fit right in, as far as age goes . As often said, Jockeys very hit/miss. Rarely are there a lot of wg's; normally males do outnumber females. But a number just there to drink, so odds are not that bad IF you can find someone to your liking. Most of the resident girls, I give a pass on. But you can, occasionally, find someone passing through, especially for that early evening ST. I find Jockeys a good place to meet with a buddy as it is small and easy to find one another (especially if you're trying to hook up 1st time).

Cyclone. ... Paid my hefty entry fee ... and she asked me to buy her a drink. Mistake: I said yes. She ordered a Long Island Ice tea, which was twice as much as my overpriced beer.

What did Cyclone gouge you for on the entrance fee? (some debate elsewhere about entrance fees)

For me, unless I know the girl, I always decline the "buy me drink" request. That's a warning flag for me. Certainly it might get her a drink (along the lines of "it never hurts to ask"), but wg's also use it to gauge the (no disrespect) "sucker" factor. And once turned down for a drink (but not business), I myself use it to gauge their "seriousness" factor about doing some business with me; do they stick around or move on?

(we take a cab, they are too lazy to walk. In fact, I've found that most people in Dubai seem too lazy to walk more than 1 block).

True. However, for the wg's, they do like to minimize their "steet" time, especially in certain areas, that being one of them (outside York, especially street towards Ramada; the 2 parking lots are/were prime areas for street action). Other area is around Astoria. These days, a lot will want to QUICKLY grab a cab.

I'll dogpile: yes, (newbies, note), NOT a good idea to give up the home court advantage. You just gave those 2 a free ride home. Again, for me, when she says, "my place, pay in advance", the alarm bells go off. Unless she's REALLY worth the risk, time to either look elsewhere, or wait for another day.

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Authorities crack down on streetwalkers
"Our efforts are tireless but we also need the public cooperation to eradicate it," ...

These illegal activities are alien to the UAE's culture and traditions and the police cannot tolerate their existence, he said.

He told Gulf News that the topic is considered sensitive because of the UAE's cultural and social mores.

Points to note:

• As I said above, there are reasons why girls want to "get away quick" from the various venues.
• There was a sidebar in the newspaper about how the police were requesting the public's help, as in "whenever we get a complaint, we immediately investigate..." ... so, keep repeating myself, but discreet IS the watchword. Just takes one irked civilian... and EVERYONE has mobiles...
• MY OPINION: it's VERY unusual to see a story like this in the newspaper (for the reason above), so when one does appear... take heed.

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Hey Deep Wet, what started off sounding like an offer of info, quickly turned to the opposite. Ah well.

LOL. You could SEE that coming.

[Steve Dubai]

Cheers,

Just wanted to contribute the experiences I made in this hotel.

Which Metropolitan Hotel are you referring to? - there are 3 that I know of

[Piper1]

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I told her I wouldn`t pay. Surprisingly she accepted. So we went to the room got undressed and she started to give me a bbbj. Not too bad I thought until she suddenly stopped and, of course, asked for money.

I could see that coming!

[Piper1]

Big Bob
... There are some Indian girls available in Dubai. In case you know some, pls let me know.
Bye

Hey Deep Wet, what started off sounding like an offer of info, quickly turned to the opposite. Ah well.

By the way - the reports you have posted on sexual techniques are well-written, if not technical. They read like they are from the Kama Sutra. Hmmm. Did you post them on the other websites in which they appear? Hmmm hmmm.

And yes, there are some Indian girls available in Dubai, but for various reasons, they play much more low key. Also, many in the "houses" are essentially prisoners, lured here with false promises, then kept in houses until they can escape (if lucky).

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Big Bob - excellent report! You did damn well for a 24 hour stop in Dubai. Your report really gave the flavor of what a mongering day/night can be like in Dubai for visitors (and even for residents like myself. I had a very similar night a few months ago - in fact, I didn't even manage to get laid by the end of the night). Still, good fun trying - all part of the adventure. (By the way, without a doubt, you could have had the two African girls for 300 total at that time of night). One tip - never let on you're passing through town. You have just arrived on a three-year contract.

As for York - no offence taken - it used to be an old favorite haunt, but the whole scene has changed to mostly African and Chinese with only a smattering of my preference - CIS girls (they know how to party!) I prefer Rockafellas at Regal for the CIS girls, but the place gets incredibly crowded with the sausage brigade after midnight.

cheers and looking forward to your next visit and post.

Piper

[Piper1]

While I was out I saw one woman being propositioned. She did not seem to be a SW and gave the guy short shift.

This happens quite often. When I lived next to Golden Sands, Miss Wildcat (and I'm sure almost any young woman) couldn't walk 5 minutes to the grocery store without being hassled, by pedestrian guys or slow cruising cars, often with Saudi number plates. Day or night. (On the other hand, I couldn't walk 5 minutes without being "hassled" by a Chinese girl. But I didn't mind too much. )

Sometimes, the propositioners can be police looking to entrap a girl. During Ramadan, 1700 WG's were arrested, to be deported (no amnesties anymore, and the "price of freedom" has risen to unaffordable amounts). One WG I know quite well was propositioned outside Imperial Suites last week, then taken to the cells.

[Punter 101]

From today's Gulf News"

Authorities crack down on streetwalkers
Dubai | By Sunita Menon, Staff Reporter | 11/11/2005

Despite the unrelenting efforts of authorities to fight the strange scenario of streetwalkers plying their illegal trade on the streets of Dubai, these women continue to pose a serious health risk since they do not have to undergo medical checks, doctors and health officials warn.

As the UAE grows rapidly into a modern state, economically and socially, experts say, it is natural to expect the appearance of various types of businesses such as the illegal flesh trade the oldest profession in the world.

Rangarajan/Gulf News

In addition to their violation of the law, the scene of women offering their illegal services on the streets is worrisome to doctors and health officials.

However, virtually everyone involved in this activity is here on a visit visa.

The women thus are not registered with the health authorities and have no access to a health card.

"This immoral activity doesn't represent a phen-omenon in Dubai as it does in other countries. Nevertheless, we have special teams to combat it.

"Our efforts are tireless but we also need the public cooperation to eradicate it," said Brigadier Khamis Mattar Al Mazeina, head of the Dubai Police Criminal Investigation Department (CID).

These illegal activities are alien to the UAE's culture and traditions and the police cannot tolerate their existence, he said.

Everyone who spoke to Gulf News on this issue did so on a guarantee of anonymity.

A senior Ministry of Health official declined to discuss the issue.

He told Gulf News that the topic is considered sensitive because of the UAE's cultural and social mores.

Asked if prostitutes are required to undergo medical check-ups, the official said: "That is a big question and a difficult one to answer. This job is not licenced."

Doctors in private clinics said that cases of HIV/Aids, tuberculosis and sexually transmitted diseases (STD) are immediately reported to the Ministry of Health.

"It is mandatory for us to report to the ministry. The UAE has very strict regulations on it," said a doctor.

Under the regulations, anyone found carrying STDs is deported and prohibited from returning.

"In nine years of practice I have not come across any such cases. The prostitutes are well aware of the regulations.

"They would prefer to go back to their country and get themselves treated," said another doctor.

An official from the Department of Health and Medical Services in Dubai (DOHMS) said that HIV and gonorrhea are the most common diseases in women who are involved in this age-old profession.

He said: "Visit visas, no check-ups and so these prostitutes pose dangers. We detect them with HIV when they are arrested and a medical check is carried out on them."

A top Dubai Naturalisation and Residency Department official yesterday told Gulf News that prostitutes come to the UAE as tourists on visit visas provided by tourist agencies.

The Dubai Department of Tourism and Commerce Marketing said that its job is to regulate the tour operators.

A DTCM spokesperson said: "The department makes sure that all tour operators are licenced. They function legally.

"We also look into complaints registered against the tour operators," said the DTCM spokesperson.

Prostitutes who spoke to Gulf News said they "would appreciate" regular health check-ups.

They said they only go to health clinics when they have symptoms of STD. Laura, 22, from Romania, came to the UAE on a visit visa.

"This is my first visit to the UAE. My friend gave me a visa.

"She is working here. She is also doing the same job," said Laura.

Veronica, 28, a Bulgarian, said she too came to the UAE on a visit visa.

Asked if she opts for safe sex, she said: "At times. It all depends on what the clients prefer."

Echoing what Veronica said, April, 29, another Bulgarian said she often suffers from skin irritation and has it treated in a clinic in Bur Dubai.

"Yes, I agree there are health risks, but then is anyone bothered about it?" asked Nabila from Zambia, a 31-year-old.

[Deep Wet]

Big Bob

Great report but small mistakes. I agree you should not have gone at girl's place. They took you for a ride. Next time be careful.

There are some Indian girls available in Dubai. In case you know some, pls let me know.

Bye

[Fawie]

Hiya mate,

Yes I imagined so but am counting on being able to use the tact that they would rather get something back then nothing, I am planning on getting a lawyer though as that seems to be the most common advise given see what he says.

Guys thanks for your advice on this matter I hope to be able to add to this thread with some relevent posts if I can back to my shangrila.

If not if any of you are ever over in the south east of england, let me know and I will give you a ticket to travel the ho train here!

Happy mongering

F

Back home after a boring 10 days away. Thanks Bravo for highlighting my off-topic posts with your links (which I have now read) - explains the large number of PMs asking me about swinger's action. Kidding - my fault I know.

Thanks also Sporadic - now I'm getting PMs from guys identifying themselves as engineers before asking for info. ; ) Will answer the PMs next few days, guys. Have to find my drilling reports first.

Fawie - it's 90% certain you would be arrested at the airport if you don't clear things first. At least write to the respective authorities first to see how you can clear things up. Like Bravo says - find a good local lawyer. Keep in mind financial penalties that accrued while you were gone - could double the debt.