2005 Dubai Archived Reports

[Warbucks]

Get a life. You don’t see me making “dumb-arsed” comments about what others post do you? I could care less what others post and you should do the same. This is the last I am going to discuss such a matter.

Oh yeah, cheers

[Sporadic]

Bold stuff is my smart-arsed comments...

I stayed in Dubai for two days on business and found it simply to be amazing... everyone feels this way the first time, in a way, DXB is amazing if not always so pleasant behind the facade

de facto legalized prostitution Be very careful my young friend, de facto is not de jure

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.... since the US government was paying for my room and we were not allowed bring in foreign guest this depends on the venue, not who is paying

...I don’t trust the two girl thing (that’s how you end up robbed and dead) not here thank goodness

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...there is a small chance to catch feelings and that is the biggest error of all. here we are in 100% agreement, but GFE´s can be found without messy emotions.

Cheers,
S

[11Bravo]

During my recent trip, was staying in a flat overlooking the Old Spinney’s parking lot. ...On one occasion, there was a girl in white who literally had a queue of men waiting to woo her, but most of them kept walking off dejected, often looking back over their shoulder to see if the girl showed any last minute interest. Were her rates high or were the men not her type ?

Which Spinney's is the "Old Spinney's"? Near Burjamin Center, or the one near Ramada, or perhaps another? "Girl in white's" nationality?

Street girls have to have it rough; no bar doormen to screen out the riff-raff. So, I'm guessing, there probably is a lot of "credential checks" before departing. My guess it'd be a combination of price/security.

The site is off bounds now?

Just tried 12 July, 15:00 Zulu; worked. Previously, it hadn't. I'd guess their server problems.

... but I did my very best too.

Nice FR, detailed. Glad to see some other names posting.

...but was having a hard time getting back from Bur Dubai to the Sheraton Creek during rush hour, so I hung around Bur Dubai, and then it became time for York, and I decided to go.

Seems traffic can have a positive aspect for some (sigh).

I did not realize the CIS Way is to just stand there looking standoffish; I was worried I might be hitting on someone's girlfriend (who somehow decided to bring his girlfriend to a virtual brothel, although maybe that's what the larger/older girls are). I spent about AED 100 on drinks -- one vodka redbull, the rest redbull, diet coke, and water. Usually tipping AED 7 or AED 5; I guess that's appropriate.

CIS use passive marketing (to conserve energy?), unless market is VERY bad (prime indication). Larger/older ladies pimps controlling their CIS flocks. Custom here is to leave coins with waitress. If I know the waitress, will include an extra 5 (yea, all of $1.36 usd, cheap charlie me) at the 1st drink, maybe also at last. Otherwise, I'll keep the small bills to give my pull taxi fare home.

...she was probably a pro.

Yea, just like you were there "probably" to find someone. It can be a little confusing for a newcomer, but basically ANY girl you see in "CITY" (Cyclone, Imperial, TGIT, York) bars is on the game. The care needed is some guys will bring her in as a date while they drink; I'm always careful I'm not stepping on toes, more the case in a small drinking bar like Jockeys than at York, etc.

Then, when I finally got fed up enough of the smoke, bad music, etc. (the only good music was when the very white, very old band decided to cover hip hop...sheer ironic value), I couldn't find her.

DAMN!! That IS the York experience!!! LOL. For better music (although less female company selection), try SeaView Hotel, Bur Dubai, 5 minutes by taxi from York.

And I decided if I couldn't hit what I wanted, I would just go home; with a web proxy, porn is a more than adequate alternative.

Say it ain't so, Joe! 2 dimensional compared to 3? Oh, the horror, the horror.

Then, as I was about to leave, she reappeared. Our conversation consisted of 'hello' 'hello' (pause for 30 seconds of silence...) "when are you planning to leave?" "huh?" "how do you like york" "you want girl? 700 aed all night" "i need to do other work tonight, short time" "400 AED, 1 hour?" "ok"

Like the movie quote from Cool Hand Luke, "What we have here is failure to communicate". Again, fairly typical York experience unless she's been here for awhile.

Then I saw the pimp (40-50something russian woman); there was a brief dispute about me wanting to pay at hotel, not at the club (n, plz), but then "where you from?" "american" seemed to do it. Apparently Americans do not often rip off prostitutes?

Americans, western europeans considered safe bets, for the most part. Also, 400 for 1 hour from a safe source... very nice pay packet.

Drove back through the tunnel at about 160kph ..., including a period of racing around some cops (who turned out to be fire rescue).

In most cases, cops will not "hot pursue", but that is slowly changing due to trying ANYTHING to reduce the fatal accidents here (more and more traffic safety campaigns). What you do have to watch out for is the flash of the radar gun, both fixed and mobile. (As I was told, "Here, we're civilized; we understand you are in a rush. We just take your photo and collect the money later, at your convience". The rental car company will pass on the charge to you).

Noticed someone had stolen my cellphone while at the York

My experience York is fairly safe; Imperial Suites is where you have to watch out. Perhaps changing demographics

Decided upon arrival to just upgrade to 700aed, after she promised she was very good. Mostly because I didn't feel like returning her to the York after, mainly because I didn't feel like walking in the heat out to my car again.

And that's why you save the small bills from the drinks for her taxi fare. 20/30 dhs fine.

"prison style"

Hell, I do like the position, never had ANY name for it.

About this time there was a discussion of what is included in all night. It apparently means until 0300 or so, and only fucking twice, since she had two condoms. I disagreed, and said we could get more condoms and a lighter at a gas station. She suggested I go out alone; I didn't feel like leaving her unattended in my room, as it contains cash, sensitive comms equipment, laptop, etc. She settled for 3 shots on goal as long as I could get the condoms, and she got to smoke.

For me, if she's not sleeping with me, it is ST. All night IS all night; departure after 9, unless she has a legit day job (some do), but will clarify I do not have too much experience with pimp controlled CIS - I prefer the CIS FL's when I do branch outside my asian major. The reason she only had 2 is reduced risk if caught in a LE stop - actually, in that case, any is bad. As to leaving alone, probably OK, but why offer temptation... I will leave girls I know alone at my place, but then, they know I live here and will not be disappearing anytime soon.

REMEMBER, some girls, fearing a LE stop, won't carry ANY condoms - bring your own.

... including lighter and a phone card. I tried to pretend I didn't know what a phone card was, but she insisted.

She can insist, but we both know that's a sucker's play, unless she's really shown excellent service. It is a good way to tip. Look at the bright side of your stolen mobile - at least she couldn't ask to borrow it.

Drove back even faster this time

Again, LE is starting to crack down... but worse than them is the truck driver running stealth (no lights)... and worse still is the stealth mercedes/bwm of a local doing 200 coming up behind you... think German autobahn WITHOUT the skilled drivers.

Noticed after the fact that the condoms were visible through the bag, oops.

Doubt anyone would be looking at that. What you do have to be careful of is public displays of affection (just ask the Italian fined $1000 usd for kissing his girl in the taxi).

She took some phone calls

Nooooo..... hard to believe.

I began to regret the LT option; a quick 1-2 shots on goal and kicking her out for AED 400 was seeming much more tempting. Live and learn. She was pretty hot at least...sadly left the camera down in the car.

For me, tradeoff. I'd bet that if it had been the 1 hour option, she would have tried to bail after the 1st shot. Hindsight always easier, I'd have waited until 1st round, or at least seeing how the foreplay was before upgrading. On the other hand, I ALWAYS make the deal for LT in the bar... really should develop my own ST into LT approach for unknowns.

And you DO understand the cartel's rules about photos, right?

I suggested "greek, do you do greek?" "what is that?" "anal?" "I don't understand" "the ass, i want to fuck you in the ass" "I do not do the ass" "ok then".

Believe most common term here is "backside".

Asked for taxi money; I mentioned the lighter and phone card. She mentioned the 3 SOG. I deflected by saying I had nothing less than AED 500; she said she had no money, but I said "I know you have at least AED 700". She called a friend to pick her up, who bailed; got permission from her pimp to use a taxi out of the money paid.

Again, keep those small bills from the bar. For me, taxi fare is a given; phone card... never asked to buy. On the other hand, for certain, you've gained merit, a "free" phone card meaningful, when placed against "she got permission to take taxi fare out of payment." Oh, I do like those FL's.

With the chinese (although I do specify), 3 shots/LT does not raise eyebrows/evoke protestations. And for true newbies (obviously, Octalgon NOT one), keep some "intermediate" bills on hand, some 100's, 50's; don't expect her to make change.

Attitude: 6.5 (not mean, but very pro/mercenary.

Yea, when you're not working for yourself...

my Russian is basically flight crew Russian

You mean "turn 180, descend", would not work?

(which really means basically she didn't do a runner

Have to be careful of those; that's why pay AFTER is so nice.

the lack of English fluency and no real shared interests was a buzz kill for me.

Shared interests... no... not going to happen. However, it can be fun to "make yourself understood" with someone from a foreign culture. I'd GUESS, if she has a pimp, she hasn't been here long enough to learn sufficient english over and above "business" english. But there certainly are girls who you can communicate with (try Cyclone... number of girls there have been here long enough, but, there is a reason they stay - GOOD money to be made, especially from the visitor). ok, not for geo-political discussions... but yet, I remember, teasing 1 chinese, "Why you keep our plane?", she responded with, "Why you hit OUR airplane?" [HER viewpoint of that situation]

Excellent FR, nice to play the commentator every now and again. Thanks for the opportunity. Stay low.
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Dubai the wonderful

My comments here.
http://www.*************.info/forum/...8&postcount=38
Some lessons learned about the benefits of researching your destination before arriving.

By the way, I can’t take on a cartel all by my lonesome...

There really isn't a cartel, just several of us having the same view of things here.

Cartel: Please note: tonight's meeting has been bumped back by 1 hour (usual location) as Jojo and her sister are running late. They, Elena, Margarita, and Urfo will provide tonight's entertainment.

[11Bravo]

Excerpted from 12 July's Gulf News, page 5, from an article about bachelors (and bachelorettes) having housing probems in Dubai. In the below, the term "bachelor" is used for both male AND female singles. Story in italics; underlines my highlights.


Even if they find some place to stay, they are asked to pay much higher rents. Single men are not alone in finding it difficult to get accommodation. Single women too, especially from Europe, Russia and CIS countries face this problem as they are asked to pay even higher rents for the flats which are given to families on lesser rates.
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Creating problems
"I was asked to vacate my flat when I went to the real estate agent to have my contract renewed," said Rahila who lives in a multi- storey building in Al Barsha. "The agent told me that bachelors are creating problems in the building and tenants living with their families are not happy" she said and complained that they should ask those who are creating problems to leave and not everyone. "Where would we go as there are hardly any flats available for bachelors," she said.
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Kashif Naveed who lived with his three friends in a one-bedroom flat in Deira was asked to leave the flat because the landlord gave notice that only two people can stay in the flat.
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However, he said, most of the landlords do not want them (bachelors) in their buildings for various reasons.
"The bachelors stay in larger numbers in one flat. They sublet rooms and try to accommodate as many people as possible. Sometimes even four persons stay in one room. They spoil the flat and also create problems for families living in the neighbourhood," he said, adding that many of them were also found involved in "immoral activities".
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Another real estate agent said that some landlords do give flats to bachelors but demand much higher rents.

Higher rents = higher fees; you know those costs will try and be passed along to the consumer. Plus, with more restrictions and "eyes watching", increased problems of harassment (or worse) when going to HER place (I have experienced this problem myself, and it is NOT amusing). You figure the attitude of "live and let live" decreases when competition for living space increases. Besides, as Trink would say, huMAN natURE to prefer to have "your own countrymen" living next door rather than "THOSE immoral degenerates from fill in the blank country". Just another example of some of the problems our friends face while working here.

[Sporadic]

Suave

he’s unforgiving and will pounce on the most infinitesimal oversight

Actually, I assumed you were just using a rather obscure word, choosing to allude to the protection inherent in Burry.

Possibly we should call Webster and have them expand the definition to include protecting the identity of providers. You may have coined a phrase here smooth one!

Piper1, I can only say your words are the epitome of class

You should meet the man, even classier than the words, and he would kill all of us at pool if my previous observations are any indication.

S

[El Suave]

Burry refers to being covered in quills or spines for protection, like certain fruit. Not a typical synonym for covered or hidden.

One oughta take extra care when a semanticist like Sporadic is around, he’s unforgiving and will pounce on the most infinitesimal oversight, typo or no typo. Keep up the bad work you “Big cuddly toy” you.

Piper1, I can only say your words are the epitome of class, and ‘kill” me at pool you will, I’m more of a poker man myself. Moreover, after hearing the rather unfortunate story you imparted, I’d hate to be the source of hardship for anyone _ it’ll be “acne” all over again if you can bear it.

By the way, I can’t take on a cartel all by my lonesome, I think I’ll pop smoke and retreat, the tag and triple teaming may yet take its toll.

[Warbucks]

I stayed in Dubai for two days on business and found it simply to be amazing (minus the weather). Who would have thought of it, an Arab country with de facto legalized prostitution? Dubai has a lot of three things; expensive hotels, malls and *****s. The malls are full of beautiful women from all over the world. Europeans, Asians and especially Filipinos this place looks like a rich version of the Philippines the Filipinos are so bountiful there. They are the largest minority in the place.

Though the malls are crawling with model type material, you may be hard pressed to pick up one there. The women in this country know who has the money (the Arabs). Thirty percent of the country is wealthy. The women are no different from other women around world, they love money. The country is really beautiful and even on my 100,000 dollars a year salary I still felt very poor compared with these guys.

Now for the good stuff. If you enjoy fucking exotic women (like I do) with no strings attached there are two places I recommend going The York international hotel and the Cyclone. As soon as I entered the York I was grabbed by a gang of African chicks working there, apparently they got a kick out of me being black, young and dressed with my hip hop persona. Some Ethiopian, Ugandan, and Somalian, etc . . . Don’t let those save the children’s info commercials fool you. Some of these women are beautiful and stacked (stacked means big tits and ass).

I had no interest in black women what-so-ever I was mainly after the Asians and eastern European working the place. After checking out these African women( whom I had never saw before except on TV) I was I was thirsty to try one on for size( she didn’t fit, I will get into that). Me and a buddy then caught a taxi over to the Cyclone club and it was the same scene Chinese, eastern Europeans and Africans everywhere.

Things was looking good when all the Arabs started showing up outside the club as it was closing for what, (where I am from we call “parking lot pimping”). These guys were pulling up in nothing but foreign-made luxury cars grabbing all the women as they exited the club. So I had to think fast I grabbed as many as I could trying to negociate a price and place but nothing could pan out. Especially since the US government was paying for my room and we were not allowed bring in foreign guest.

Soon the lady pool dried up and me and my buddy a caught taxi back to our hotel saddened. When we arrived to our surprised three Africans and one European was waiting outside. I had recently had all the eastern European (Russians) I could handle in Uzbekistan so I opted for one of the Africans.

Her name was Leani she was from Kenya and she was beautiful big tits and ass.. A little baby fat around the waist though. We settled on a price which she started 200 US and I declined and told her 100 then she said ok 150 then asked if I wanted her friend also. I declined her friend offer since I was new to the scene here and I don’t trust the two girl thing (that’s how you end up robbed and dead).

We grabbed a taxi ( with Mr.George dubya playing star wars in the middle east U.A.E. is quite safe for an Arab country to an westerner. I had no problems catching taxis all over the place sometime alone).

We arrived at her apartment which she shared with two other girls a eastern European and another African. She was very nice and polite did not drink or smoke. She showered offered me the opportunity to the same. She then put on some slow music( my fellow Chicagoan R. Kelly), I put on the ultra thin rain coat( which felt really nice I might add) and we got to it.

Don’t want to brag but I am above average below the belt, she complained the whole way but she did her best. After the session was over we talked about where she was from and what I was doing in Dubai and her choice of work. Then she gave me her number and email. I took it them but later ripped them up. I stick to the plan no numbers no email. Two reasons I don’t want to bump the same bunny twice also there is a small chance to catch feelings and that is the biggest error of all.

[Octalgon]

my previous dubai mongering experience consisted of a pair of chinese girls from york. i was kind of ambivalent about doing anything tonight, but was having a hard time getting back from bur dubai to the sheraton creek during rush hour, so i hung around bur dubai, and then it became time for york, and i decided to go. just to look around, although getting an experience worthy of a report to try to become a senior member seemed possibly worthwhile.

this time, i spent 2200-2350 scoping out the place. approached by the usual really aggressive africans (including one i would have drawn on, had we been about 400 miles northwest of here and on a street; she drew blood with her fingernails trying to grab at me!), chinese, etc. i did not realize the cis way is to just stand there looking standoffish; i was worried i might be hitting on someone's girlfriend (who somehow decided to bring his girlfriend to a virtual brothel, although maybe that's what the larger/older girls are). i spent about aed 100 on drinks -- one vodka redbull, the rest redbull, diet coke, and water. usually tipping aed 7 or aed 5; i guess that's appropriate. i was also glad the security guys let me walk around the metal detector, as i don't really go through them as a rule when in the middle east.

i found one girl i was quite into, mainly because she was dressed like a civilian, and had no obvious makeup, etc. name: alexandra, wearing a haven motel t-shirt (salmon colored) and some clam-digger jeans, with sandals. brown shoulder length hair. claimed to be "russian" and then "from vladivostok" but spoke very little, although her english was passable whenever engaged.

i spent about 2 hours just standing near here and looking; didn't approach. i saw a couple guys go up to her, so she was probably a pro.

then, when i finally got fed up enough of the smoke, bad music, etc. (the only good music was when the very white, very old band decided to cover hip hop...sheer ironic value), i couldn't find her. i went up to one of the other 2 girls she'd been with all night, and asked if her friend was around; she spoke very little english, only "you want girl? 600 aed".

i looked around for the secondary and tertiary, but they appeared engaged, or just not terribly friendly. and i decided if i couldn't hit what i wanted, i would just go home; with a web proxy, porn is a more than adequate alternative.

then, as i was about to leave, she reappeared. our conversation consisted of 'hello' 'hello' (pause for 30 seconds of silence...) "when are you planning to leave?" "huh?" "how do you like york" "you want girl? 700 aed all night" "i need to do other work tonight, short time" "400 aed, 1 hour?" "ok"

then i saw the pimp (40-50something russian woman); there was a brief dispute about me wanting to pay at hotel, not at the club (n, plz), but then "where you from?" "american" seemed to do it. apparently americans do not often rip off prostitutes?

went out, walked about 3 blocks to my car. learned her name. drove back through the tunnel at about 160kph (mmm, mazda 6; not quite as nice as my bmw, or the armored g-wagen, but still ok), including a period of racing around some cops (who turned out to be fire rescue).

i parked next door, partly by accident, from the sheraton dubai creek. walked in through the lobby, trying to be a bit covert, but she said she worked there often, so there was no real fear. did see what looked like a group of people in the lobby sitting around talking, not sure if there were kids. not that i have a huge amount of shame; going with prostitutes is kind of expected when you're coming from a war zone, as it's a lot more efficient than trying to score with civilians in a short time period.

noticed someone had stolen my cellphone while at the york -- an old ericsson with a prepaid sim, but still a bit of a hassle. oh well; front slash pockets are for fools.

decided upon arrival to just upgrade to 700aed, after she promised she was very good. mostly because i didn't feel like returning her to the york after, mainly because i didn't feel like walking in the heat out to my car again. she stripped immediately, i stripped to shirt and boxers, she got on top and started grinding on my legs. i suggested a shower first, which she did; she seemed to believe shampoo was a good choice for my moderately hairy arms/legs, vs. soap -- cultural difference? not like i really need much shampoo for my head, anyway, tomorrow.

a bit of playing in the shower; fingers in her, licking on breasts, some light fk. (hadn't brushed my teeth in about 20h, so)

took her back to the bed; she insisted on cbj, and was happy when i didn't protest. i don't really care too much between cbj and bbbj, although bbbj usually implies more licking vs. just sucking. she did use a bit too much teeth.

i suggested daty, and she transitioned to 69. using the french for it, which was a bit jarring, but it was ok. she had an interesting cat-face tattoo on left pubic bone area, and was totally shaved (slight stubble)

69 lasted for about 4 minutes; she then got on top to fuck. i'm not so big on girl on top unless the surface is a bit firmer than the sheraton beds; it was ok, but we switched to missionary for about 30 seconds, then doggie, then "prison style" (i.e. her flat on the bed, face down ass up, using my legs to hold her legs down and apart, and holding her arms down ...is there a less demeaning name for this?). went like this for about 10 minutes, then came in the condom, reached down to pull out, she went to the bathroom and made use of the bidet, then i did.

she then asked to smoke. i don't smoke (tobacco), and didn't have lighters. non-smoking room. she insisted, and called down to room service for a lighter! they called back and said no, since it was a non-smoking room -- i said it was for smoking outside, but they still wouldn't. she was closed for business until she got to smoke. sigh, addicts.

about this time there was a discussion of what is included in all night. it apparently means until 0300 or so, and only fucking twice, since she had two condoms. i disagreed, and said we could get more condoms and a lighter at a gas station. she suggested i go out alone; i didn't feel like leaving her unattended in my room, as it contains cash, sensitive comms equipment, laptop, etc. she settled for 3 shots on goal as long as i could get the condoms, and she got to smoke.

she then went out to go find something on her own, leaving her stuff behind. didn't find anyone outside in the lobby area.

i put clothes on and drove her to a gas station. she said for me to go inside and pick up stuff, including lighter and a phone card. i tried to pretend i didn't know what a phone card was, but she insisted.

bought stuff (so much variety in condoms! i picked durex ribbed, which seemed like a good choice...mainly i've always used free condoms from university, military, etc. health care). drove back even faster this time (mazda6 being surprisingly peppy, and hitting traffic circles at night at high speed is a source of neverending euphoria). (i avoid drinking in order that i feel less guilty about driving very aggressively...)

parked in the next door lot. walked in. noticed after the fact that the condoms were visible through the bag, oops.

went back up to the room. round two. started on the bed, switched to prison style, then her standing up in the bathroom, although her legs were a bit long, and she wouldn't spread them wide enough for deep penetration; she almost pushed me backward onto the bidet with her ass, so i couldn't get deep penetration. went back to the bed; face down ass up, this is how we like to fuck. came again, maybe 15 minutes later.

she took some phone calls and smoked. i began to regret the lt option; a quick 1-2 shots on goal and kicking her out for aed 400 was seeming much more tempting. live and learn. she was pretty hot at least...sadly left the camera down in the car.

round three started with hj (suggested by me) using the lotion from the bathroom. she took a phone call while doing it. fingering her through her panties; mainly due to angle, rubbing anus through some very scratchy seeming panties. heh.

then i motioned/pulled her on top, 69 style, and started licking. transitioned fairly rapidly to rimming; she pressed down very hard, either encouragement or chastisement; either way, she ended up with tongue in ass. hj continued.

she said "you won't be able to come!". i said "yes, yes i will" -- i can usually spend ~6-8 hours having sex, with orgasms as frequently as every 20 minutes. eventually soreness and physical exhaustion take their roll, but 3 sog in 2 hours is no thing at all.

i suggested "greek, do you do greek?" "what is that?" "anal?" "i don't understand" "the ass, i want to fuck you in the ass" "i do not do the ass" "ok then". she missed out on perhaps aed 500 more.

vaginal sex; again her starting on top, for about 3 seconds; switched back to the one true position rapidly. went for about 20-30 minutes. came, continued fucking for a bit, then pulled out. was mostly happy she'd be going; the "third sog" became more an obligation than anything i wanted, about the time she started smoking. lungs > cock.

she didn't just leave. asked for taxi money; i mentioned the lighter and phone card. she mentioned the 3 sog. i deflected by saying i had nothing less than aed 500; she said she had no money, but i said "i know you have at least aed 700".

she called a friend to pick her up, who bailed; got permission from her pimp to use a taxi out of the money paid.

she left about 2 minutes before i started this entry.

so true it is; you don't pay to fuck them, you pay them to go away.

i'd say:

body: 9 (if you like sort of waifish natural girls, shaved. maybe 5'8", 110#, brown natural shoulder length hair)
attitude: 6.5 (not mean, but very pro/mercenary. lack of english was a problem; responded badly to russian, too (my russian is basically flight crew russian, and not much vocabulary for social encounters, but...)
sex: 7 (cbj is a -1 deduction, lack of anal is maximum 9 points, and not horribly interactive)
balls: 10 (brazen with the hotel. calling for a lighter from a non-smoking room has some serious style; saying it was for crack/meth/arson/etc., not a cigarette, would have had even more style...)

ebay style rating: a++++ would buy from again! (which really means basically she didn't do a runner, and wasn't dirty or diseased)

i think i will hit rock bottom and cyclone, but i might confine myself to army and air force girls instead of non-military pros for the forseeable future; the lack of english fluency and no real shared interests was a buzz kill for me. otherwise, i'd just masturbate.

[Tom2004]

Hi Folks,

Piper1 (as well as others) started with his marvellous pics in the photo gallery and so I tried to use my recent Dubai trip to do the same ? honestly Piper got the nicer ladies but I did my very best too.

S. talked to me at several occasions at York and I took her phone number with the promise ?I will call you? ? and I kept my promise. She was willing to come over to my hotel early morning and we had a good 4 hours session. While her definitely remained behind expectations she was eager to compensate with her service including some 40 pictures incl. full face pictures which I deleted for obvious reasons. For those interested please have a look to the photo gallery.

The service included BBBJ, anal and three shot ? whereby this was more my physical limitation and the fact I had to work. I brought some brand new ?dildos? (vibrator, lady fingers, etc.) with me and she willingly accepted to try them out. Especially the anal vibrator made her horny and taking her backside was no discussion at all. She enthuasticly responded to all of my requests and was even a nice talker. S. showed a highly pragmatic approach to the business.

She has no objection to give her mobile number, but please understand I am willing to share with senior members or those who are known for there contributions in this forum only.

My rating: Not an A class, but good in service and GFE experience. Would I take her again ? yes once in a while.

Take care folks,

Tom

[Sporadic]

The site is off bounds now? (the stories about dxb nightlife)

An excellent reminder that someone seems to monitor this forum. Some of those stories are several years old, and they get blocked now? right now?
Hmmm.


bravo

Everyone that knows you thinks of you as a cuddly toy (a BIG cuddly toy...)

The only downside to this is when they keep trying to stuff duracells up my arse. AAA are a pain, D cells are life-changing.

S

[Piper1]

However, when parental-orientated admonishments enter the fray, it’s Mommy Dearest revisited.

I have a theory, and it says you seek to conceal the face because you refuse to acknowledge your precious pro enthusiastically awards GFEs to 75% of Dubai’s populace.

Hi Suave - I'm not an admonisher. Nor is Piper a King. He's just a naughty boy. (Sorry, this comes from Monty Python's "The Life of Piper").

My comment about non-full-face photos follows the recent happenings on another thread that led twelve clearly identified girls (some non-pro) to jail, and their lives and families in tatters. The photographer, who was partial to anal sex, will also soon be in a place where he will get (I emphasize "get") lots of that.

Since your earlier pics were masked, I assumed the most recent one was a slip, so my comment was meant as a gentle hint.

I have no idea what your second sentence above means. Maybe too late in the day for me. I liked it better when you talked down and dirty.

As for cartels, the other regular posters will only confirm I'm against exclusivity. This is a forum for all to participate in. I wish there were more contributors.

Join us one night when you're in town - you'll realize there's no sense of exclusivity, and we're a friendly bunch, especially to new fellow hobbyists.

Shucks, we're just regular Kings, I mean, guys. I'll be the first to buy you a drink (and kill you at pool).

Cheers

Piper

[Sporadic]

Bravo

To me, posting un-burried (thanks, new word to me)

Burry refers to being covered in quills or spines for protection, like certain fruit. Not a typical synonym for covered or hidden.

Suave

"you refuse to acknowledge your precious pro enthusiastically awards GFEs to 75% of Dubai’s populace"

Here I vote with Bravo. At least in most cases I know, fellow punters share a wink and a nod when we have sampled the same goods, it is done as a favour, ensuring the punter of a known quality, and a shared experience... remember that summer back at camp? IMHO the GFE is more closely matched to the punter, not the provider in many cases.

Cheers,

Sporadic

[11Bravo]

To be (viewable), or not to be (viewable), that is the question (Like El Suave, plural you is assumed in the below)

Forget the LE arguement for not posting faces on this board. I agree, no LE officer will ever be seen walking through Cyclone with printouts in hand, looking for specific faces. Their methodology is more to pulling a bus up at the end of the street and detaining ALL, pending review of documents.

And discount the "yokel" theory. I certainly don't expect to see dog pack mobs, printouts in hand, standing outside York, trying to match faces. (Now TGIT, between 3:45 - 4:00pm, the gauntlet of packed lookie-lous [I think Astoria is missing an income opportunity by not selling 1 dhs tickets for close, parking lot viewing] might be a different case; no, they don't have access to computers).

Yes, forget the above. For me, it's basic standards of politeness (such a quaint concept in THIS self-centered age); from my culture, the ole "do until others..." I just DON'T see any correlation between being a prostitute and giving up your rights to personal privacy. What she does in that room is between her and the customer; the room is not "public domain"; there IS an assumption of privacy. I doubt that posters have obtained signed model releases. Call the girls stupid, naive, uninformed, but I really don't think the vast majority would agree to pose IF they realized where the photos ended up. Their fault for not asking, or your fault for not telling? I know where I stand.

Yes, certainly, it is your photo, and you can do with it what you will, but I believe the implied use is "personal viewing only", NOT "public viewing". To me, posting un-burried (thanks, new word to me) photos is just another form of deceit. I don't agree with punters who pay with obscure currency, the implication the large denomination bills are worth "big money", when, in reality, it's "chump change". It's NOT HER ignorance problem; NOT HER trust problem. Same here. Noblesse oblige.

(As to your example of "Moroccan pros are Muslim, hardly anyone is concealing faces on the above respective boards", I'm sure you're aware of the problems that have occurred there, and Jackson's decision to remove photos. Granted, the heat was due to nationals being involved; different catagory here. But an example of how something innocuous CAN spin out of control.)

But I do agree with you; I don't think Dubai is unique. Simple: I live here = I post here. That so many others do, and I don't? Their behavior is up to them; I'm only suggesting alternate ways of viewing the situation.

It’s self interest and the need to fulfill insatiable vanities ain’t it?

The crux of the matter. Here, we agree, just opposite sides of the coin:

• Your side of the coin's "you refuse to acknowledge your precious pro enthusiastically awards GFEs to 75% of Dubai’s populace" IS understood, and acknowledged, by me. She's a paid actress that weaves a facade to satiate fantasies of EACH of her customers for a given amount of time; I care only about that time she spends WITH ME. Given that I certainly cannot (and have no desire to) solely support her, I certainly hope she IS successful with others, as, if she can't make money, then she will go home, a loss for ALL. What I do object to is when others treat her as inferior, applying different standards.
  
• From my side of the coin, it is about "self interest and the need to fulfill insatiable vanities", as in "look who I just screwed; aren't I the stud; aren't you envious of me?". Just a new form of the "bragging book". To me, it's no big deal: you reach a mutual agreement, you pay your money, you get laid. No effort required. After all, I'm under no illusions that anyone, except me, cares if I got laid, or who I laid, yesterday (although she was GOOD). So what's the big deal about masking the face if you're posting without stated consent?

Bottom line: MY view is that posting unmasked faces, without direct, informed consent, is exploitative and deceitful. If it's not, then why don't you show her the site, and tell her "You, too, will be here after tonight". For those that disagree, then I will pull out the old argument: Post YOUR face along with hers. Prove your commitment to the correctness of your beliefs: posting an unmasked face is no big deal. I follow my beliefs; the photos I take are for personal use, as implied (makes my database so much easier to use; now I just have to make it portable).

(And yes, we would like to see your* face so we can identify you* in the bar).

*as stated, the non-specific "you"

[Black Boots]

Hi,

The site is off bounds now?

http://www.hetq.am/eng/society/

Has NUMEROUS stories (e.g. search on "Desert Nights" on the page). Not something that will make the dxb authorities happy.

[Koolman]

During my recent trip, was staying in a flat overlooking the Old Spinney’s parking lot. While smoking on the balcony, could notice a regular flow of ladies strolling for business. On one occasion, there was a girl in white who literally had a queue of men waiting to woo her, but most of them kept walking off dejected, often looking back over their shoulder to see if the girl showed any last minute interest. Were her rates high or were the men not her type ? She finally left with one after quite a bit of time. Just an observation I wanted to post.