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[GoodEnough]

That's a much more civilized response than the previous one where you ignored the basic points I raised and instead labelled my perfectly reasonable questions as a "childish rant".

If the 20-year old wants to go with you simply to "bullshit with a foreigner" then well and good. Why didn't you say that in the first place?

I still maintain that if a 20 year old student wants to hang out with a foreigner who is (usually) at least twice her age then she obviously believes that there is something in it for her other than a Happy Meal. There are rare cases where a woman just wants and enjoys sex with a white guy with no expectations, but I would guess that those instances are very few and far between, and especially NOT when the girl is only 20 years old.

I think the instances to which you refer are between 0 and 1%.

[Red Kilt]

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Why do the girls go with RK? Why do they go with FF or me or any other punter. Well most of the times they probably think we are all rich. But I am not living in Angeles with bar girls. Where I live there are a good number of well off people. Not rich but a lot better off than most average Filipino. There is a big university across the street. Maybe they just want to bull shit with the foreigner.

I do not spend all day asking why? I don't make promises I can not keep and I have had no problems to date.

If you have lived her 14 years or six years, or 1 year. Some experiences are similar and some different.

But at the end of the day we all March to the beat of a different drummer.

That's a much more civilized response than the previous one where you ignored the basic points I raised and instead labelled my perfectly reasonable questions as a "childish rant".

If the 20-year old wants to go with you simply to "bullshit with a foreigner" then well and good. Why didn't you say that in the first place?

I still maintain that if a 20 year old student wants to hang out with a foreigner who is (usually) at least twice her age then she obviously believes that there is something in it for her other than a Happy Meal. There are rare cases where a woman just wants and enjoys sex with a white guy with no expectations, but I would guess that those instances are very few and far between, and especially NOT when the girl is only 20 years old.

[GoodEnough]

I find all of this defensiveness about different styles somewhat funny. I know RK pretty well, and he has a great lifestyle that obviously pleases him. I've not been here as long as he, but I've been here quite a while and have found a lifestyle and a rhythm-not much different from RK's-that satisfies me. I think all of us who l live here for a few years eventually get over the "kid in the candy store" fascination with endless choice and opportunity, and figure out a more stable modus vivendi. I'm not at all disparaging the guys who come for a couple of weeks or even a couple of months and try to bag as much game as possible; I'm just trying to indicate that for those of us who live and work here, it's different.

GE

[FreebieFan]

But at the end of the day we all March to the beat of a different drummer.

On that we are in total agreement.

[Frank4220]

And what exactly was your point? You found a girl and will "proudly" buy her one of the cheapest meals in the Phils, then do her. Not eactly much of a point. Read some of my many trip reports and you will find I do this on most of my Manila trips, and just like yours mine also having partaken of too much longanisa either.

Theres probably many of us are similar. So yours isn't much of a point.

Oh and if you knew RK, you might know he doesn't do barfines. Has as much free stuff as you and me. And been in th Phils a darn signt longer than most. You may have found his info to have been useful. But I guess you seem to know it all.

This started with a light hearted, sarcastic agreement with another poster on why some people spend more than what they do on bar fines or girls in particular. I just do not have the same point of view as you do. If you took offense to my humor. To darn bad. And I never said that I knew it all.
I was making the case that it is not necessary in my view and there are other options. As for whose quality of girl is better and who gets a better educated or classy companion. Please that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. But give me the same courtesy.
Why do the girls go with RK? Why do they go with FF or me or any other punter. Well most of the times they probably think we are all rich. But I am not living in Angeles with bar girls. Where I live there are a good number of well off people. Not rich but a lot better off than most average Filipino. There is a big university across the street. Maybe they just want to bull shit with the foreigner.
I do not spend all day asking why? I don't make promises I can not keep and I have had no problems to date
If you have lived her 14 years or six years, or 1 year. Some experiences are similar and some different.
But at the end of the day we all March to the beat of a different drummer.

[FreebieFan]

This is what I ask myself everytime I am with a girl 20yrs younger. I am now sponsoring a girl through college and when I meet her we have fantastic sex but would she "love" me if I gave her nothing. I doubt it.

I'm having some non sexual fun (we had and will have much more sexual fun!) helping a girl who is a mere 34 years younger than me. Cute as a button. I have several business trips coming up and from experience know that I often prefer taking young sweet company than going out drinking and taking strangers home (on the rare ocassions when I can't get freebies ). So I thought why don't we get this young lady a passport.

Sent her some money to get her started, she takes a 1 hour bus to passport place, gets the admin runaround but she is a determined gal. Made some progress. Then she got sick and in a panic goes online and asks if its ok if she uses some of the passport money to go to the doctor (that was a nice touch!).

Goes back to passport place and realises she can do the passport processing herself without a cockroach agent to help. She's going back tomorrow for passport interview and sent me email saying she's now got "too much money". Can she use it to buy food on the day she next travels to meet me Manila she asks. This is a nice girl with style!

In return I only got 200 pics of her plus some great bonking and the sheer delight of being with a young bubbly funny good looking girl. Oh and I think we had sinigang na corned beef in Bonifacio high street, Italiannos and a really good breakfast, No Happy meals for me LOL.

Does she like me more because I'm doing this. Probably.

Is it a big amount of money. No.

Does she suddenly feel her life has a purpose and future. Yes.

How long will it last. Who knows. But its surely great fun.

Am I being ripped off. Not at all. At least not in this case.

[Whatsgoingon]

She must be thinking there is more in it for her than simply "sex" for a few hours.

This is what I ask myself everytime I am with a girl 20yrs younger. Whats in it for her.

I am now sponsoring a girl through college and when I meet her we have fantastic sex but would she "love" me if I gave her nothing. I doubt it.

I would guess that most of them do it because they will either get money directly or some hope of a way out. I. E. They hook a man.

Anyway, heading over your way in August RK. Will try and give you some notice this time. Would be great to meet for a beer.

[Red Kilt]

Must have hit a nerve with you! Funny how you disgruntled mongers can not just hear someones different point of view without going off on some childish rant.

Some of us actually have friends and acquaintances here and a social life that does not just entail bar fining girls for our jollies. I know it may be hard for you to understand. But then maybe you never had much luck with women in your own country either.

Sorry the Philippines has left you so bitter.

Nope Frank. I am very comfortable here thank you. Not bitter at all. Nor disgruntled. Read a few of my posts and you will see that I generally try to "help" posters with their queries.

As FF says, I don't do barfines and I am living (and working) in the Phils and have done so for the past 14 plus years.

And I have read and re-read my short post to you and I am puzzled that you label it as a "childish rant".

I merely asked a couple of questions.

I am interested to know why a 20-year old woman (girl) wants to meet you (or any other guy) when she knows you are not going to give her anything except the cheapest food you can find and the pleasure of your company for a few hours.

She must be thinking there is more in it for her than simply "sex" for a few hours.

Unless a free happy meal and a short bang is all she wants and is enough to keep her happy? I personally seek companions who have higher goals in life.

[FreebieFan]

Must have hit a nerve with you! Funny how you disgruntled mongers can not just hear someones different point of view without going off on some childish rant.

Some of us actually have friends and acquaintances here and a social life that does not just entail bar fining girls for our jollies. I know it may be hard for you to understand. But then maybe you never had much luck with women in your own country either.

Sorry the Philippines has left you so bitter.

And what exactly was your point? You found a girl and will "proudly" buy her one of the cheapest meals in the Phils, then do her. Not eactly much of a point. Read some of my many trip reports and you will find I do this on most of my Manila trips, and just like yours mine also having partaken of too much longanisa either.

Theres probably many of us are similar. So yours isn't much of a point.

Oh and if you knew RK, you might know he doesn't do barfines. Has as much free stuff as you and me. And been in th Phils a darn signt longer than most. You may have found his info to have been useful. But I guess you seem to know it all.

[Frank4220]

Why is she meeting you Frank?

Serious question.

You have told us you don't plan to give her money and I assume she knows this so why is she meeting you? Is it your scintillating good looks? Witty repartee? Superb sexual techniques? All of the above? Others?

Or have you spun her a story that makes her think you are the real deal and you are planning to sweep her away out of her modest existence when, in fact, you plan to drop her when you are tired and wish to move on?

As I said earlier. Serious series of questions? Interested to know.

Must have hit a nerve with you! Funny how you disgruntled mongers can not just hear someones different point of view without going off on some childish rant.

Some of us actually have friends and acquaintances here and a social life that does not just entail bar fining girls for our jollies. I know it may be hard for you to understand. But then maybe you never had much luck with women in your own country either.

Sorry the Philippines has left you so bitter.

[Red Kilt]

I have a meet with my 20 year old college girl bukas (tomorrow)! Love to say she is free but I have to pay for a Mcdonalds happy meal for her. Total cost with jeepney fare and short time room. Maybe 500 peso top. She is as attractive as any girl you will find here and she has not had 200 dicks in her.

Why is she meeting you Frank?

Serious question.

You have told us you don't plan to give her money and I assume she knows this so why is she meeting you? Is it your scintillating good looks? Witty repartee? Superb sexual techniques? All of the above? Others?

Or have you spun her a story that makes her think you are the real deal and you are planning to sweep her away out of her modest existence when, in fact, you plan to drop her when you are tired and wish to move on?

As I said earlier. Serious series of questions? Interested to know.

[Frank4220]

I've got one thing to say. You guys are paying all of this money for pussy in the PI! Are you guys on drugs? Lost your damn minds? GOD has not created a Pinay pussy worth 3000, and if he did, you damn well better marry it, and lot in the basement for safekeeping. You guys are way overpaying, and f*king it up for the rest of us. Get a clue, if you stop paying the price, it comes down. Take your nose out of the girls pussy while your negotiating, it'll work better. As far as the set bar fines in the bars, again, if you stop paying it, and the price I'll go down. The bar owners are like the oil barons,"Raise the price until some screams", well dammit it time to start bellowing your asses off. You want to pay that kind of money for a piece of ass fine, but take it some where else, let's keep paradise, paradise shall we.

In case anyone wants to know, I am an eight year veteran of the streets of Angeles, left two years ago, have made three trips back there since, and am moving there permanently in January, I'd like there to be some semblance of the strip I left still there, don't care if the names change, as long as the pussy stays the same. In all my time there, when I paid, I never paid more than $20, you guys have lost your minds, and your slowly turning pussy heaven into Las Vegas, without the crap tables. As far as the Koreans, great, let them pay the high prices, and then carry their asses back to the other side of the park where they belong, after all we're not welcome in their places, even with them there, so what, the girls are going to want a real dick eventually anyway.

I do not understand all these sky high prices either. Last time I looked out my window I saw that I am living in a third world country with third world wages. Why the hell would someone give equivalent of two weeks wages in some cases to some so called high class / no class bar girl?

There are literally millions of ladies here in the Philippines looking to hook up with foreign men. Get out of your overpriced hotel rooms and see some of the real Philippines.

I have a meet with my 20 year old college girl bukas (tomorrow)! Love to say she is free but I have to pay for a Mcdonalds happy meal for her. Total cost with jeepney fare and short time room. Maybe 500 peso top. She is as attractive as any girl you will find here and she has not had 200 dicks in her.

I can well afford to pay what I like but why would I pay more than I should.

Cheers

[Frenzy3]

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An easy way to get yourself peace of mind, or definite proof of your suspicions. Just make sure your wife / gf does not install it on your phone

Are you serious if a girl here owns any of those phones in the Philippines and you did not but it she has a sponsor. You won't need the software to prove it. And if you are dumb enough to buy a phone like that and you do not know what she is up to then she probably will out smart you and has already got every detail she needs on you.

Go and spam some other forum.

[Maddy62]

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An easy way to get yourself peace of mind, or definite proof of your suspicions. Just make sure your wife / gf does not install it on your phone

[Econo Tech]

Last time I was in Manila I saw this korean dude with this super hot pinoy. I am sure she wasn't his gf because I asked him. She was definitely a pro, but from what I have seen online escort ads, none has been close to her quality. Slim, great skin, beautiful face and features, very presentable. My question is where can I find someone like that? I am sure none at LA Cafe is of that quality either.

Thanks in advance!

HOt date in LAC? You do get, but, that's a lucky strike.

There are hot dates, available, in some escort site. Not going to put them here. Google 'them.