Giotto's Lodge in Bangkok

[Warbucks]

It's funny how, when an argument develops, guys need to use xenophobic arguemnts and stereotypes. While you may not agree with NicFrenchy, and express it , why do you guys need to refer to his being "French" here and there? I see the same about guys being "German", as if this definition explained anything... It is only when running out of sensible arguments that one has to rely on such stereotypes.

Dreams these ISG arguments always leave the basis on which they were founded on. I have been racially insulted in the past and recently I had a guy who has never met me attack me, my work history and then list all the rich and famous people he met in a humorous attempt to prove his point had some merit totally ignoring how the original argument came about and proving nothing.

Don't think this phenomenon is going to change anytime soon. Nic is one of the most level headed cats on ISG.

[Nvslim]

Centaurus, I totally am offended by your suggestion of mirrors.

Especially if the monger is older and in less than perfect shape as most posting seem to be. I don't need a mirror reminding me I have passed my "sell by date".

Slim

[Dreams]

It's funny how, when an argument develops, guys need to use xenophobic arguemnts and stereotypes. While you may not agree with NicFrenchy, and express it , why do you guys need to refer to his being "French" here and there? I see the same about guys being "German", as if this definition explained anything... It is only when running out of sensible arguments that one has to rely on such stereotypes.

[SE Asia Joe]

See, the thing is, you don't have to agree because I was merely saying what I would have done if in the same situation.
We all see things adn interpret things different and that's ok, I mean, life would be boring if we were all handsome like me! can you imagine? no girl would call me "hansum man" anymore!

I still stand by what I said. You can call me an asshole (I am one anyhow) but, although I treat the girls with respect, I do keep in mind that they are "rented" goods and therefore supposed to give you the functions for which you pay for. Yes, they are human and this flawless logic doesn't always apply but you get my point.

We all know girls are forced to work through their periods because they need the cash. But in this case, think about it:

So you think she did nothing wrong eh? period time (even a day after) can be very tricky for the punter because blood is involved. So she tells him no DATY, fine, he carries on, puts a condom, starts to fuck her and she bleeds a little, condom breaks... now our punter goes to the doctor and catches something nasty... still think she's not at fault? I think a little.

The girl was indeed following his wishes... hope of catching an STD... right

you're talking out of your ass!
now I hope you continue... I need fellow ISG with good criticizing skills.. The Rabbit KTV became too gentle and won't even be nasty in the fught club

And since you're still on it - let me take apart your previous post!!

".....they are "rented" goods and therefore supposed to give you the functions for which you pay for....." yes and please define what those "functions" are? They must automatically allow you to DATY? OK, granted that they're supposed to let you to fuck them, even expect a BJ from them (and hope its BBBJ i/o CBJ!) - but the rest?? What??

Howzabout all the other "things?" Hell, plenty of times I've had gals who refuses to even let me kiss them on the mouth, never mind DFK (as if it's only the French who does this!!); Most will not allow deep finger fucking (as they're afraid that your nails carries germs).

Howzabout all the other things on the menu of usual (what the fuck is usual?) sex practices - and some of the perversion??

I'd say that unless it was discussed and PRE-agreed upon, there is no way in hell that anybody could or should assume that its on the menu.

AND WTF???!! You really think that you are at a greater danger of getting infected if your condom breaks when the gal you're doing is on her period??!! French books you got this information from?? Condom breaks - you're PROBABLY gonna be in deep shit whether she's red or not. PERIOD. Well..... perhaps NOT in deep shit with worries about her getting pregnant and that you may have some bastard running around Bangkok IF she's on the rag!

SEAJ

Ps. Hey, the way you think - next time your condom breaks, you oughta sue the Manufacturer! That's got more rationale behind it!!

[SE Asia Joe]

We should not have to ask if the ladies were honest about it

You ain't never heard of Caveat Emptor?? Let the Buyer beware?

And NOT only in LOS - but even in France I betcha. Whaddya expect from WG's? You gotta be kidding!

And to go back to what started all this - the gal never said one way or the other and the monger never asked; monger never even asked if she's game for DATY or not - which by the way is NOT a usual part of a deal as I would think at least a large majority of guys would not go down on WG's first time they doin' it.

Anyway, they made a deal and proceeded and she expressed that she doesn't want DATY - and whether its true if its because she just finished her period or not (for all we know she may just NOT like it full stop, and just said she just got done with her period to turn the monger off from going down on her!), the monger did NOT go down on her. Whilst he was less than satisfied, it was HE who decided to not continue with her "temporary employment."

So what's the big deal? You make it sound as if she was the one who did not live up to the word and spirit of a multi billion $$ deal - whilst the fact of the matter is that there wasn't even any reference to requirements for a DATY in the "contract" - not even implied when the contract was first brokered.

IMHO and its a damn good opinion I say!!

SEAJ

[Pita123]

I'm tired of you lady boys and unlike you guys jacking off on your keyboards last night I spent with real pussy (which was not red).

I can't imagine a pussy that doesn't turn red after 14 times. Are you going easy on them in your old age?

[Mistral66]

Talking about LL and getting old and heart of a place etc....

Here I am sitting at the Swan Lake hotel in Chang Ping, relaxing a bit as I just got done with another BBS gal, waiting to go out for dinner in about an hour or so - and NOT minding it at all that I don't feel it necessary that I need to be doing a gal as many times as I could in a day like I used to do.

Fact is, mongering nowadays to me is not just the pure act of sex - watching a gal's head bob up and down for the 3rd, 4th or fifth time in a day is..... actually meaningless. It's more interspersing these sessions with hanging out with the guys, shooting the breeze, taking some of the gals out for a meal or a bit of cheap shopping - even going and go bowling like I did last night with one of my regulars and a couple hotel receptionists friends of mine, before coming back and spending a very nice rest of evening with my regular.

As such LL is a very nice respite from the full bore mongering that one expects oneself to be doin' whilst in Bangkok. Just IMHO.

And OHMIGAWD..... I'm actually saying something nice about LL. What the hell am I doing??!!

SEAJ

Looks like that we all get a little bit wiser and older! LOL

[NicFrenchy]

YWhere is the bars responsibility? Do the bars give them paid days off when they are flowing red?

What? they're prostitutes not social workers

Maybe the Bar Owners should make the girls wear a Red Star when there is possibility they might go red, are red, or are just finishing being red how is that?

So you ARE agreeing with me then... the girls will not be honest enough to tell the customers on their own unless the bar forces them?

In all seriousness, maybe some are not jai dee like me because I find it refreshing when a girl tells me right off she's on her period

Those of us who have met you all know you're crazy... now the whole ISG knows

As you say they are rented, you are the customer, I"m not shy about asking questions like are you red, could you become red, and many other questions...

We should not have to ask if the ladies were honest about it

[NicFrenchy]

I don't know if you've been in Thailand too long or that is just your French Side. This is so fucking funny I can barely type on my keyboard. You better hope I stay sober or else I would post your picture for everyone to laugh at. Remember you are a lady boy right? So we are not supposed to talk about the ladyboys who call you handsum man.....

Ah what the hell ban me like OTH if you assholes want here's a picture of NicFrenchy.

You could have done much better there! what is that picture?
not ugly/dirty enough... sorry but this was a pathetic attempt at trying to get me and, you blew it.

ASSHOLE... happy now?

By the number of posts you did I can see you were alone last night and did not go out so you had your computer, your black berry, and vasaline and tissue to keep you company. How many times did you scroll through the photo gallery?

You actually think that the photos posted in the Pic Gallery are wanking material? man, I knew your tastes were not top notch but I am wondering now... have a thing for the fuglies have we?

Fught? What kind of fucking french spelling is that? Oh that's right the French never did know how to FIGHT

Rabbit, let me remind you of one thing: English is your first language but it is my third! and I do make less spelling mistakes than you do. You really ought to be ashamed to criticize me on this.

Or were you in mid stroke with your other hand while you wrote this? What were you think about while you are stroking? Plastic Furniture, Mirrors, some shit like others seem to be hell bent on... or are you just practicing to try to get it up to 4 times a day?

I'm tired of you lady boys and unlike you guys jacking off on your keyboards last night I spent with real pussy (which was not red).

it's about time you come up with some new material... you are becoming redundant.

[Member #3428]

Centaurus, I totally am offended by your suggestion of mirrors. When you are with a little spinner and throwing her around the room do you know how easy it is to break the glass and cut the poor little angel?

Case in point, there is a certain girl at Snow white that has knocked herself silly into the mirrors with some damn Rabbit. Mirrors are dangerous and should be banned. And do you know some places try to charge you when the mirror breaks.

Since we are getting older and should be more worried about fitness and our cardiovascular work outs. A dancing pole with platform, good stereo system with flashing lights and love swings (for fitness purposes only of course) in each room is more along the lines of what is needed and should be installed. Of course some straps on the plastic covered beds would be good for stretching purposes only also before our work outs begin.

That is surely more important then those damn slippers they got recently.

[Member #3428]

We all know girls are forced to work through their periods... still think she's not at fault? I think a little.

Your logic is a little off. Forced? By who? You make it sound like it is the only the girls that force themselves to work while red.

Where is the bars responsibility? Do the bars give them paid days off when they are flowing red? Granted NO bar or mamasan would EVER force a girl to go with a guy when she was red (um yeah this is fantasy land we are in right now OK called sarcasm).

What is a bar going to do, give up a bar fine because the customer wants a girl who is red or just after she is red or might start flowing that night. It's not an exact science when it starts or stops. Maybe the Bar Owners should make the girls wear a Red Star when there is possibility they might go red, are red, or are just finishing being red how is that?

And some guys... sorry for you folks, when they put in their dick can't feel the sponge at all. Others are too drunk or stupid to know what they are feeling when they do put in their dick so it doesn't matter to probably 80 or 85% of the folks here.

So who is at fault? The girl? The customer? The mamasan? The bar owner?

It's the system Nic the system... so fight the power and let's all band together STOP mongering to protect these innocent girls from having sex while red. Make signs and boycott all the bars and businesses (that leaves more for me thank you )

In all seriousness, maybe some are not jai dee like me because I find it refreshing when a girl tells me right off she's on her period (Ok so some when I point to them go pale as a ghost and say period, period, no boom boom you, then they go off with other customers). And if I start to like a girl it is one of the first questions I ask and while I won't say they are 100% truthful, I will say 90% are truthful about it.

As you say they are rented, you are the customer, I"m not shy about asking questions like are you red, could you become red, and many other questions...

EDIT: Hey let's ask Admin to start another Survey (that he does nothing about). How many guys have ever bought drinks for a girl for a few hours only to ask for bar fine and have her say she can't as she has her period, or what is worse is when the girls says she doesn't bar fine. ARGH !!!!!!!!

I'll go first ME ME ME ME... I have... So I ask it almost right away. Hi, what's your name, do you have your period, if I pick you can you bar fine? If she's not red, can bar fine, then I start to get to know her.

You bastards have turned me into a total sweet heart... I blame 1Ball mostly.

[Member #3428]

could be a good strategy, as g. does not take well to constructive criticism.

he's german what do you expect? oops... so are you :d

g. doesn't even pretend, tells me to stfu and sends me to the peep-inn

you are lucky you get to stay on 33, he sends me to philippines

[Member #3428]

Are you serious? Do you think a girl would say that to a guy ready to pay her 3,000 and pay the barfine?

Even if I'll get flamed for being a fan boy, I have to tell you the girls at LL have said when they were floating the river red (either that or they were fucking afraid to go with me ) In all seriousness, before I went completely nuts, the girls were straight forward about this topic in the Sports Bar.

I mean, life would be boring if we were all handsome like me! can you imagine? no girl would call me "hansum man" anymore!

I don't know if you've been in Thailand too long or that is just your French Side. This is so fucking funny I can barely type on my keyboard. You better hope I stay sober or else I would post your picture for everyone to laugh at. Remember you are a lady boy right? So we are not supposed to talk about the ladyboys who call you handsum man.....

Ah what the hell ban me like OTH if you assholes want here's a picture of NicFrenchy.

You can call me an asshole

ASSHOLE... happy now?

By the number of posts you did I can see you were alone last night and did not go out so you had your computer, your black berry, and vasaline and tissue to keep you company. How many times did you scroll through the photo gallery?

The Rabbit KTV became too gentle and won't even be nasty in the fught club

Fught? What kind of fucking french spelling is that? Oh that's right the French never did know how to FIGHT

Or were you in mid stroke with your other hand while you wrote this? What were you think about while you are stroking? Plastic Furniture, Mirrors, some shit like others seem to be hell bent on... or are you just practicing to try to get it up to 4 times a day?

Either way get your homosexual dressing ass and drag that know it all never wrong german with you to the fight club and let's get at it. And find that guy who lost his one ball to come join and bring The Pet, The Prick, the Pervert er... I keep forgetting his name maybe it is The Pro along with you so we can all have some intellectual conversations and stop this fucking talk about plastic furniture, mirrors and other shit.

I'm tired of you lady boys and unlike you guys jacking off on your keyboards last night I spent with real pussy (which was not red).

[BionicMan]

I arrived at Livingstone's Saturday night at 8pm and was in the sports bar fifteen minutes later. I quickly surveyed the scene, met the MMS and a girl by the name of Nu (sp?) came by. She said she was a political science major at the university. It was a line that caught my attention but she couldn’t keep up much of a conversation about politics. ......


I tried to go back and find her the next night but someone else had barfined her for two days. She will remain in my memory as the one that got away.

but at least she can handle a very decent conversation...right?

as for the otehr..there is good old say: "book erly to avoid later disappointment"

[Member #3428]

Centaurus,

Everybody is welcome here ... sadly we are completely booked until April 2015.


Giotto

Ah... watch it Centaurus you might get to The Rabbit Club Level soon. Did you get your special membership card yet? They talk about slow season but when I flash my Rabbit Club card it mysteriously is always full up and the girls start running from the Bar (not to my arms but out the back door)...